Guest guest Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Check out fibermenace.com and gutsense.org he has discussions of this on those sites. He also points out correctly that it's not just frequency but size and shape that matter as well. He uses the Bristol Stool scale. Like all things involving nature, there is no correct answer for the ideal number of BMs a person should have each day. Individual differences are normal. Assuming your health stays constant, what you eat has a enormous influence on your BMs. For example, if you were to eat an all meat diet, high in fat you would notice that your stool volume will be lower than if you eat a high carbohydrate diet. Also your stools would have less odor than on a high carbohydrate diet. This is because fat and protein are almost 100% assimilated where as carbohydrates assimilation is much lower and carbs will ferment in your gut. Although your stool frequency may go up to once after each meal on an all meat diet as fat is an excellent laxative. Another major factor is total calories. If you are heavily restricting your calories, less goes in, less comes out. And the converse is true. Lastly, some people have better bowel control than others and can hold it for quite some time. This is considered unhealthy because it interferes with the natural signaling process. Like they say, if gotta go, you gotta go. Good luck! --- In , " gayle12345678 " <basicliving@...> wrote: > > How often should a healthy person poop? > > What if a person wants to reducing the frequency of pooping per day? What would you suggest? Besides eating bad food. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 What about cleaning up your intestines and removing any smell from stools. What does he recommend for that? Eat beets or beet kvass? Eat unpasteurized sauerkraut? Have lots of fiber rich cooked green veggies? defibered veggie juice blends? Oatmeal? Apples and carrots with their pectin? Thanks Dan Holt ________________________________ From: paulsonntagericson <paulsonntagericson@...> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 1:09:47 PM Subject: Re: Frequency of poop? Check out fibermenace. com and gutsense.org he has discussions of this on those sites. He also points out correctly that it's not just frequency but size and shape that matter as well. He uses the Bristol Stool scale. Like all things involving nature, there is no correct answer for the ideal number of BMs a person should have each day. Individual differences are normal. Assuming your health stays constant, what you eat has a enormous influence on your BMs. For example, if you were to eat an all meat diet, high in fat you would notice that your stool volume will be lower than if you eat a high carbohydrate diet. Also your stools would have less odor than on a high carbohydrate diet. This is because fat and protein are almost 100% assimilated where as carbohydrates assimilation is much lower and carbs will ferment in your gut. Although your stool frequency may go up to once after each meal on an all meat diet as fat is an excellent laxative. Another major factor is total calories. If you are heavily restricting your calories, less goes in, less comes out. And the converse is true. Lastly, some people have better bowel control than others and can hold it for quite some time. This is considered unhealthy because it interferes with the natural signaling process. Like they say, if gotta go, you gotta go. Good luck! --- In , " gayle12345678 " <basicliving@ ...> wrote: > > How often should a healthy person poop? > > What if a person wants to reducing the frequency of pooping per day? What would you suggest? Besides eating bad food. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Personally, I'd say at least twice a day if not more frequent - but no more frequent than one eats meals (so if you only eat one meal a day, one poo a day would be perfectly healthy). Intestinal transit time can effect the composition of the microbial colony in your gut so I personally feel it is better for you to go the same amount of time after every meal (with excptions made for nighttime, of course) - around 16 hours is the average transit time from what I've read. It is, however, important that you do not make yourself poo more often than you feel the urge (just as important as it is for you to go immediately when you do feel the urge). If you want to poo less, try doing one big meal a day with small snacks instead of the other two meals. This will actually help your intestines " sleep " better between meals, which will help them maintain your colony more effectively. (You can also help your intestines sleep better by eating 3 meals a day of foods that digest quickly - land meats, grains and beans all take 2-3 hours to digest so a diet like what I'm talking about would be fish/shellfish, dairy and vegetable/root base - but that would not help you achieve your pooping less goal.) -Lana " There is nothing more useful than sun and salt. " - Latin proverb On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 12:32 PM, gayle12345678 <basicliving@...>wrote: > How often should a healthy person poop? > > What if a person wants to reducing the frequency of pooping per day? What > would you suggest? Besides eating bad food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 You need to read fibermenace.com to get a more detailed picture of stool composition, but a large portion of a stool is dead bacteria or other metabolic waste products, not necessarily food. I would say the best thing to reduce stool odor is fat and protein since they are almost entirely assimilated. Carbohydrate, especially complex carbohydrate and fiber ferment and produce a great deal of odor in the process. I have confirmed this myself. When I go on a zero-carb diet for any length of time, my stools are less offensive than when I eat carbs. Monastyrsky is not a supporter of fermented foods or fiber. He asserts that the majority of the probiotic in fermented foods are killed in the stomach--which may well be true but no process is 100% efficient so some probiotic must get through. Although I've not been able to find studies that confirm this. He asserts that too much fiber over the long term can cause a range of health problems and has quite a bit of research to back up this claim. I don't agree with everything he says, but he is one our side for the most part. He rightly acknowledges that fat should be the base of your food pyramid. Cheers, > > What about cleaning up your intestines and removing any smell from stools. What does he recommend for that? Eat beets or beet kvass? Eat unpasteurized sauerkraut? Have lots of fiber rich cooked green veggies? defibered veggie juice blends? Oatmeal? Apples and carrots with their pectin? > > Thanks > Dan Holt > > > > > ________________________________ > From: paulsonntagericson <paulsonntagericson@...> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 1:09:47 PM > Subject: Re: Frequency of poop? > > > Check out fibermenace. com and gutsense.org he has discussions of this on those sites. He also points out correctly that it's not just frequency but size and shape that matter as well. He uses the Bristol Stool scale. > > Like all things involving nature, there is no correct answer for the ideal number of BMs a person should have each day. Individual differences are normal. > > Assuming your health stays constant, what you eat has a enormous influence on your BMs. For example, if you were to eat an all meat diet, high in fat you would notice that your stool volume will be lower than if you eat a high carbohydrate diet. Also your stools would have less odor than on a high carbohydrate diet. This is because fat and protein are almost 100% assimilated where as carbohydrates assimilation is much lower and carbs will ferment in your gut. Although your stool frequency may go up to once after each meal on an all meat diet as fat is an excellent laxative. > > Another major factor is total calories. If you are heavily restricting your calories, less goes in, less comes out. And the converse is true. > > Lastly, some people have better bowel control than others and can hold it for quite some time. This is considered unhealthy because it interferes with the natural signaling process. Like they say, if gotta go, you gotta go. > > Good luck! > > > > --- In , " gayle12345678 " <basicliving@ ...> wrote: > > > > How often should a healthy person poop? > > > > What if a person wants to reducing the frequency of pooping per day? What would you suggest? Besides eating bad food. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 I wonder what another alternative is because I like sports and so I need to take in carbohydrates. My guess would be to eat whole foods and to eat things that may clean out the intestines, remove the odor from stools. I would imagine sauerkraut, beets/beet kvass, and cooked or raw vegetables with their cleansing cell walls would be good. Apples or peaches? I think peaches have soluble fiber in them. Any suggestions? I'm not having any veggies, beets, or sauerkraut right now. Dan Holt ________________________________ From: paulsonntagericson <paulsonntagericson@...> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:00:38 PM Subject: Re: Frequency of poop? You need to read fibermenace. com to get a more detailed picture of stool composition, but a large portion of a stool is dead bacteria or other metabolic waste products, not necessarily food. I would say the best thing to reduce stool odor is fat and protein since they are almost entirely assimilated. Carbohydrate, especially complex carbohydrate and fiber ferment and produce a great deal of odor in the process. I have confirmed this myself. When I go on a zero-carb diet for any length of time, my stools are less offensive than when I eat carbs. Monastyrsky is not a supporter of fermented foods or fiber. He asserts that the majority of the probiotic in fermented foods are killed in the stomach--which may well be true but no process is 100% efficient so some probiotic must get through. Although I've not been able to find studies that confirm this. He asserts that too much fiber over the long term can cause a range of health problems and has quite a bit of research to back up this claim. I don't agree with everything he says, but he is one our side for the most part. He rightly acknowledges that fat should be the base of your food pyramid. Cheers, --- In , Holt <danthemanholt@ ...> wrote: > > What about cleaning up your intestines and removing any smell from stools. What does he recommend for that? Eat beets or beet kvass? Eat unpasteurized sauerkraut? Have lots of fiber rich cooked green veggies? defibered veggie juice blends? Oatmeal? Apples and carrots with their pectin? > > Thanks > Dan Holt > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: paulsonntagericson <paulsonntagericson @...> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 1:09:47 PM > Subject: Re: Frequency of poop? > > > Check out fibermenace. com and gutsense.org he has discussions of this on those sites. He also points out correctly that it's not just frequency but size and shape that matter as well. He uses the Bristol Stool scale. > > Like all things involving nature, there is no correct answer for the ideal number of BMs a person should have each day. Individual differences are normal. > > Assuming your health stays constant, what you eat has a enormous influence on your BMs. For example, if you were to eat an all meat diet, high in fat you would notice that your stool volume will be lower than if you eat a high carbohydrate diet. Also your stools would have less odor than on a high carbohydrate diet. This is because fat and protein are almost 100% assimilated where as carbohydrates assimilation is much lower and carbs will ferment in your gut. Although your stool frequency may go up to once after each meal on an all meat diet as fat is an excellent laxative. > > Another major factor is total calories. If you are heavily restricting your calories, less goes in, less comes out. And the converse is true. > > Lastly, some people have better bowel control than others and can hold it for quite some time. This is considered unhealthy because it interferes with the natural signaling process. Like they say, if gotta go, you gotta go. > > Good luck! > > > > --- In , " gayle12345678 " <basicliving@ ...> wrote: > > > > How often should a healthy person poop? > > > > What if a person wants to reducing the frequency of pooping per day? What would you suggest? Besides eating bad food. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Dan, Monastyrsky doesn't believe in " bowel cleansing. " Why do you think less smell is better? Recently I read that butric acid is good for the bowels. It smells pretty nasty. On a similar forum, konjac is recommended for improving carb digestion and digestion overall. I've been trying it for a couple of days and it seems to work quite well. So you might want to look into that. Hans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Check out a couple of Croxton's videos about pooping. They're great! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUa46COpaRY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLZCoOwn0Jo > > I wonder what another alternative is because I like sports and so I need to take in carbohydrates. My guess would be to eat whole foods and to eat things that may clean out the intestines, remove the odor from stools. I would imagine sauerkraut, beets/beet kvass, and cooked or raw vegetables with their cleansing cell walls would be good. Apples or peaches? I think peaches have soluble fiber in them. Any suggestions? I'm not having any veggies, beets, or sauerkraut right now. > > Dan Holt > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 From what I've read about carbohydrates (Kwasniewski, SCD and low-FODMAP diets), it's best to avoid fermentable carbs and complex carbs and go for things with more starch and glucose. You want your body to get to the calories before the microbes do. Fruit and honey are usually half fructose or more, which is bad for the gut and the liver, although some fruits like bananas and cranberries are slightly better. Fruits like apples and peaches are high in sugar alcohols, which are also fermentable. Lactose is a fermentable sugar too, more so if you're lactose-intolerant obviously. Root vegetables and grain starches tend to be much lower in fructose and other fermentable carbs, but some whole grains like wheat have a lot of fructans - a fructose polymer. Onions and garlic have them too. I don't hear people talk about it much, but my guess is that foods fermented BEFORE you eat them are okay. I know that sauerkraut doesn't give me trouble like raw broccoli or even cooked cabbage do. Mike > > > > > > How often should a healthy person poop? > > > > > > What if a person wants to reducing the frequency of pooping per day? What would you suggest? Besides eating bad food. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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