Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 I completely agree with you Kathy! Thank you for posting this. Now I can't visit without getting a headache. I was shocked when I saw what they had done. I told them how I felt a few weeks ago. They told me that some people really like the new site while others don't, and there are problems that they are still trying to work out - errors with the upgrade. I guess we'll see! I offered resources that they can consider to fix the site. I'm in online marketing/web design and there are many problems with this design, that's for sure. A site doesn't have to be fancy to be effective. Their old design was, to me, quite beautiful - very distinct. Sure, a few things could have been done with the old style to make it better for SEO, etc. and to attract more signups, but I don't understand what the thinking is behind the current design. Hopefully it will get sorted. I don't want to visit any more. --- In , " Kathy Dickson " <kathy.dickson@...> wrote: > > I've become very frustrated trying to locate information onsince the > re-design. I can't find anything since everything has been collapsed into > the Health Topics link. I'm no longer comfortable sending people to the site > to learn about the benefits of the diet because of the frustration. If you, > too, are experiencing difficulties, please send an E-mail to > webmaster@... with your specific frustrations. > > Thanks, > Kathy > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 I complained too. I want the old site back. Re: OT:WAPF Web site > > > > >I completely agree with you Kathy! Thank you for posting this. Now I can't visit without getting a headache. I was shocked when I saw what they had done. > > >I told them how I felt a few weeks ago. They told me that some people really like the new site while others don't, and there are problems that they are still trying to work out - errors with the upgrade. I guess we'll see! > >I offered resources that they can consider to fix the site. I'm in online marketing/web design and there are many problems with this design, that's for sure. > >A site doesn't have to be fancy to be effective. Their old design was, to me, quite beautiful - very distinct. Sure, a few things could have been done with the old style to make it better for SEO, etc. and to attract more signups, but I don't understand what the thinking is behind the current design. > >Hopefully it will get sorted. I don't want to visit any more. > > > >--- In , " Kathy Dickson " <kathy.dickson@...> wrote: >> >> I've become very frustrated trying to locate information onsince the >> re-design. I can't find anything since everything has been collapsed into >> the Health Topics link. I'm no longer comfortable sending people to the site >> to learn about the benefits of the diet because of the frustration. If you, >> too, are experiencing difficulties, please send an E-mail to >> webmaster@... with your specific frustrations. >> >> Thanks, >> Kathy >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 > I completely agree with you Kathy! Thank you for posting this. Now I can't visit > without getting a headache. I was shocked when I saw what they had done. > > > I told them how I felt a few weeks ago. They told me that some people really like > the new site while others don't, and there are problems that they are still trying to > work out - errors with the upgrade. I guess we'll see! > > I offered resources that they can consider to fix the site. I'm in online marketing/web > design and there are many problems with this design, that's for sure. I hate it too and I'm in the web business too. We had a long discussion about the new site on the chapter leaders list so Sally heard a lot of negative feedback there although some people do seem to like it. The colors alone give me a headache and I have a hard time finding any info. Suze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 I cannot IMAGINE how difficult it must be for professionals to tolerate the aesthetics! My problem is that I can't find any information - and isn't that the whole point? To educate others on the value of the diet? Kathy From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Suze Fisher Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 8:29 AM Subject: RE: Re: OT:WAPF Web site > I completely agree with you Kathy! Thank you for posting this. Now I can't visit > without getting a headache. I was shocked when I saw what they had done. > > > I told them how I felt a few weeks ago. They told me that some people really like > the new site while others don't, and there are problems that they are still trying to > work out - errors with the upgrade. I guess we'll see! > > I offered resources that they can consider to fix the site. I'm in online marketing/web > design and there are many problems with this design, that's for sure. I hate it too and I'm in the web business too. We had a long discussion about the new site on the chapter leaders list so Sally heard a lot of negative feedback there although some people do seem to like it. The colors alone give me a headache and I have a hard time finding any info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 The older site was a lot easier to browse. That's what I preferred about it. Dan Holt ________________________________ From: Lillea <three3_six6_nine9@...> Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 4:40:31 AM Subject: Re: OT:WAPF Web site  I completely agree with you Kathy! Thank you for posting this. Now I can't visit without getting a headache. I was shocked when I saw what they had done. I told them how I felt a few weeks ago. They told me that some people really like the new site while others don't, and there are problems that they are still trying to work out - errors with the upgrade. I guess we'll see! I offered resources that they can consider to fix the site. I'm in online marketing/web design and there are many problems with this design, that's for sure. A site doesn't have to be fancy to be effective. Their old design was, to me, quite beautiful - very distinct. Sure, a few things could have been done with the old style to make it better for SEO, etc. and to attract more signups, but I don't understand what the thinking is behind the current design. Hopefully it will get sorted. I don't want to visit any more. --- In , " Kathy Dickson " <kathy.dickson@ ...> wrote: > > I've become very frustrated trying to locate information onsince the > re-design. I can't find anything since everything has been collapsed into > the Health Topics link. I'm no longer comfortable sending people to the site > to learn about the benefits of the diet because of the frustration. If you, > too, are experiencing difficulties, please send an E-mail to > webmaster@.. . with your specific frustrations. > > Thanks, > Kathy > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 have you used the Search box in the upper right hand corner? this works great for me and I am able to easily find health info. --- In , " Kathy Dickson " <kathy.dickson@...> wrote: > > I've become very frustrated trying to locate information onsince the > re-design. I can't find anything since everything has been collapsed into > the Health Topics link. I'm no longer comfortable sending people to the site > to learn about the benefits of the diet because of the frustration. If you, > too, are experiencing difficulties, please send an E-mail to > webmaster@... with your specific frustrations. > > Thanks, > Kathy > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 > isn't that > the whole point? To educate others on the value of the diet? > Kathy Maybe not. The point may be to increase the visibility and influence of WAPF and sell WAPF products. But it sounds like they bought the services of one of those designers who does not test for findability. Yuk. Or, the powers that be might have directed the designers to make it snazzy and modern and not one word about retention of customers or finding information. C > > > > From: > [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Suze Fisher > Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 8:29 AM > > Subject: RE: Re: OT:WAPF Web site > > > > > > > I completely agree with you Kathy! Thank you for posting this. Now I can't > visit > > without getting a headache. I was shocked when I saw what they had done. > > > > > > I told them how I felt a few weeks ago. They told me that some people > really like > > the new site while others don't, and there are problems that they are > still trying to > > work out - errors with the upgrade. I guess we'll see! > > > > I offered resources that they can consider to fix the site. I'm in online > marketing/web > > design and there are many problems with this design, that's for sure. > > I hate it too and I'm in the web business too. We had a long discussion > about the new site on the chapter leaders list so Sally heard a lot of > negative feedback there although some people do seem to like it. The colors > alone give me a headache and I have a hard time finding any info. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 Thanks for bringing this up. I hadn't thought of the financial angle - but, that is EXACTLY what it looks like, like WAPF is no longer education-oriented, but financially-oriented. And that would certainly be a reason not to listen to those of us complaining about it. Kathy From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of cbrown2008 Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 2:45 PM Subject: Re: OT:WAPF Web site > isn't that > the whole point? To educate others on the value of the diet? > Kathy Maybe not. The point may be to increase the visibility and influence of WAPF and sell WAPF products. But it sounds like they bought the services of one of those designers who does not test for findability. Yuk. Or, the powers that be might have directed the designers to make it snazzy and modern and not one word about retention of customers or finding information. C > > > I completely agree with you Kathy! Thank you for posting this. Now I can't > visit > > without getting a headache. I was shocked when I saw what they had done. > > > > > > I told them how I felt a few weeks ago. They told me that some people > really like > > the new site while others don't, and there are problems that they are > still trying to > > work out - errors with the upgrade. I guess we'll see! > > > > I offered resources that they can consider to fix the site. I'm in online > marketing/web > > design and there are many problems with this design, that's for sure. > > I hate it too and I'm in the web business too. We had a long discussion > about the new site on the chapter leaders list so Sally heard a lot of > negative feedback there although some people do seem to like it. The colors > alone give me a headache and I have a hard time finding any info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 > But it sounds like they bought the services of one of those designers who does not > test for findability. Actually, Sally designed it. Yuk. Or, the powers that be might have directed the designers to > make it snazzy and modern and not one word about retention of customers or > finding information. It's not snazzy at all though and information is harder to find. Someone mentioned that the search function works well for them, well, about 10% of web users prefer using search functions, but the majority tend to use the menu structure to find information. So the new site tends to be harder to use than the old for, probably, the majority of users. Suze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 On 2/15/2010 4:26 PM, Suze Fisher wrote: > Someone > mentioned that the search function works well for them, well, about 10% of > web users prefer using search functions, but the majority tend to use the > menu structure to find information. IMHO, the worst part is that I used to be able to send people with a new interest in or curiosity about the WAPF information and when I saw them again they were full of " I didn't know... " and " I never thought about it, but..... " kinds of statements that indicated they'd been poking around the website looking at things other than what they'd asked about in the beginning. That's gone. Hard for beginners or other folks who are new to WAPF to know what to put in a search box....on the old site they seemed to be able to 'wander' around the site and be lead from one part to another by curiosity, now they are just getting their original question answered. SJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Personally, I just gave up using the site or linking to it from my blog. I will check in on occasion to see if things change. -- " America " is simply an idea that personal liberty and limited government are the utmost ideal. This concept found a home in the United States for quite some time, but no longer. - Doug Casey Nutrition and Physical Regeneration http://nutrition-and-physical-regeneration.com/blog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 All of these comments are great! I hope everyone is sending them to the Web site manager as well. Thanks, Kathy From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 6:22 PM Subject: Re: Re: OT:WAPF Web site Personally, I just gave up using the site or linking to it from my blog. I will check in on occasion to see if things change. -- " America " is simply an idea that personal liberty and limited government are the utmost ideal. This concept found a home in the United States for quite some time, but no longer. - Doug Casey Nutrition and Physical Regeneration http://nutrition-and-physical-regeneration.com/blog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 I do appreciate all of the articles they added. It's refreshing. The site is so rich with information. One of my top sites to visit. Probably my favorite. ________________________________ From: <slethnobotanist@...> Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 4:22:19 PM Subject: Re: Re: OT:WAPF Web site  Personally, I just gave up using the site or linking to it from my blog. I will check in on occasion to see if things change. -- " America " is simply an idea that personal liberty and limited government are the utmost ideal. This concept found a home in the United States for quite some time, but no longer. - Doug Casey Nutrition and Physical Regeneration http://nutrition- and-physical- regeneration. com/blog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 The search box may work but the list that was along the left side was so helpful to even know what to look for. The much too long list of links that come up with the search box is confusing and I just give up. Re: OT:WAPF Web site > >have you used the Search box in the upper right hand corner? this works great for me and I am able to easily find health info. > >--- In , " Kathy Dickson " <kathy.dickson@...> wrote: >> >> I've become very frustrated trying to locate information onsince the >> re-design. I can't find anything since everything has been collapsed into >> the Health Topics link. I'm no longer comfortable sending people to the site >> to learn about the benefits of the diet because of the frustration. If you, >> too, are experiencing difficulties, please send an E-mail to >> webmaster@... with your specific frustrations. >> >> Thanks, >> Kathy >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 That's exactly right. Re: Re: OT:WAPF Web site > >On 2/15/2010 4:26 PM, Suze Fisher wrote: >> Someone >> mentioned that the search function works well for them, well, about 10% of >> web users prefer using search functions, but the majority tend to use the >> menu structure to find information. >IMHO, the worst part is that I used to be able to send people with a new >interest in or curiosity about the WAPF information and when I saw them >again they were full of " I didn't know... " and " I never thought about >it, but..... " kinds of statements that indicated they'd been poking >around the website looking at things other than what they'd asked about >in the beginning. > >That's gone. Hard for beginners or other folks who are new to WAPF to >know what to put in a search box....on the old site they seemed to be >able to 'wander' around the site and be lead from one part to another by >curiosity, now they are just getting their original question answered. > >SJ > > >------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I'm glad that others agree that this 'upgrade' is horrid. It's bad in so many ways, visually and structurally and it's poor for attracting more signups too. Suze, they should have consulted with you at the very least! You can access old copies of the whole site here: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.westonaprice.org The copies are missing graphics and don't go past August 28, 2008, but it's something at least! This is the last copy dated August 28 2008: http://web.archive.org/web/20070626025025/www.westonaprice.org/splash_2.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 I thought it was just me. I find it unattractive in a way that makes me want to leave the site rather than spend time there browsing - and I've given up trying to find anything. --- In , " Kathy Dickson " <kathy.dickson@...> wrote: > > I've become very frustrated trying to locate information onsince the > re-design. I can't find anything since everything has been collapsed into > the Health Topics link. I'm no longer comfortable sending people to the site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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