Guest guest Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Has anyone researched Probiotics? It was brought up recently from an MS friend and had heard About it, but never looked into it. How about Cinnamon for MS. Stops progression in mice. Diane From: mscured [mailto:mscured ] On Behalf Of Hugo Macia Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 1:27 PM To: mscured Subject: Re: MS - Cure & Success Hello: It seems promising but I have a question. Since we have a leaky gut, at least when you have not treat this problem (if it is always possible) getting away candidas, etc. So if your gut is not sealed, this proteins can passed trough the blood streem and I don´t know if it would have any impact. Hugo De: Pamela Castro <pamcastro@... <mailto:pamcastro%40yahoo.com> > Para: " mscured <mailto:mscured%40yahoogroups.com> " <mscured <mailto:mscured%40yahoogroups.com> > Enviado: jueves 21 de julio de 2011 12:23 Asunto: Re: MS - Cure & Success Hi , I signed up for the program. it's only herbs and peptide. i'm waiting for more instructions on how to take them. Pamela Castro Carcelen From: Nicholls <peter.nicholls@... <mailto:peter.nicholls%40rocketmail.com> > To: " mscured <mailto:mscured%40yahoogroups.com> " <mscured <mailto:mscured%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 4:56 AM Subject: Re: MS - Cure & Success yes interesting. would like to hear from from the 'ms folks' before the risk of upsetting any balance on auto immune system regards peter/ppms/london From: " Lenora.Wilkinson@... <mailto:Lenora.Wilkinson%40us.thewg.com> " <Lenora.Wilkinson@... <mailto:Lenora.Wilkinson%40us.thewg.com> > To: mscured <mailto:mscured%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, 20 July 2011, 17:39 Subject: Re: MS - Cure & Success Has anyone tried the below? I dont want to purchase without hearing more about this. From: Antoine Killion <akniceguy750@... <mailto:akniceguy750%40gmail.com> > To: mscured <mailto:mscured%40yahoogroups.com> Date: 07/19/2011 11:35 AM Subject: Re: MS - Cure & Success Sent by: mscured <mailto:mscured%40yahoogroups.com> Did u get my email? On Jul 11, 2011 7:41 AM, " himmerland2000 " <himmerland2000@... <mailto:himmerland2000%40yahoo.ca> > wrote: > > > > > Some of Multiple Sclerosis folks are already aware of a treatment for MS > that is available Over-the-Counter. > This is Myelin Protein capsules available from Food supplement stores > and the Internet. > > One of this product can be found at > http://www.healthmart2000.com/item498.htm > > The mechanism of This kind of TREATMENT is Called Oral Tolerance- a mechanism > researched by MOdern Medical Researchers.. > > Oral Tolerance (O.T.)is the most successful way of treating MUltiple Sclerosis & various > autoimmune diseases. > > View this link to understand better. > http://www.suite101.com/content/oral-tolerance-therapy-a8796 > > And the most important part is O.T. is successful in - animal trials of autoimmune diseases. > > > See Success in Animals trials below: > > http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:kRjJz6A7DccJ:www.discoverym\ edicine.com/Ling-Shao/2009/07/12/treatment-of-disease-through-oral-tolerance/+or\ al+tolerance+animal+successfully <http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:kRjJz6A7DccJ:www.discovery\ medicine.com/Ling-Shao/2009/07/12/treatment-of-disease-through-oral-tolerance/+o\ ral+tolerance+animal+successfully & cd=4 & hl=en & ct=clnk & gl=ca & source=www.google.ca> & cd=4 & hl=en & ct=clnk & gl=ca & source=www.google.ca > > However, it has not been successful in human trials. > > But if all of the factors in the animal trials were duplicated in human trials then > we will have success too. > > The reason animal trials were positive is because in most cases the animals were > young - their immune system were producing good amounts of the > missing factor - CD80/CD86. > > The suppressor T cells - our > attention should be on this cell because it is responsible for lowering > antibodies (immunoglobin G) and can bring total healing. > > The reserch by Dr. Polly Matzinger explains this best : > The T cell needs 2 factors or signals for full activation. > 1.) a peptide similar to myelin Basic protein - a tiny dose 1 mg. this primes or > makes ready the > T cell. But without the 2nd signal the T cell remains in anergy( no activity). > > 2.) the Second signal - is CD80 or CD86 - either one is enough to make the T > cell go thru the changes that makes it fully activated cell. > > It is the Second Signal where Modern medicine has not progressed further & > failled. > > CD80 and CD86 are factors found in the blood. > > Many Blood Factors and their production are increased by Herbs; > For EXAMPLE: > 1.) VEGF(Vascular endothelial Growth Factor) - expression increased by Chinese herb sinensis. > > 2.) Interferon-G - expression induced by Astragalus membraneous root and some > extracts from certain beans. > > 3.) Tumor necrosis factor- a - production increased by Coptis herb > > 4.) INterleukin-2 - expression increased by Goji berries. > > > The important fact is CD80 And/or CD86 which are the missing ingredients > can be induced by Herbs. > > CD80 production is possible thru the use of plants & /or mushrooms. > Examples: > 1.) Agaricus bisporus - can induce CD80 . Agaricus bisporus is the white Button > mushroom or champignon mushroom found in most U.S. and Canadian supermarkets. > > see article http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18287364 > > 2.) Goji berry known as Lycium barbarum - juice and extracts induces CD80- > available from most Food supplement stores & the internet > See article http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19170138 > > We have just proven that the answer to autoimmune diseases including Multiple > sclerosis is Modern Medicine's Oral Tolerance combined with herbs . > > All the INFo here are True and you can search these thru the internet. > Look up the words - Oral Tolerance, T suppressor cells, Dr. Polly Matzinger, T > cells & Second signal, CD80 & CD86 - all of these can be verified & found in the > internet > and in medical journals - go ahead & you'll see they agree with what is written > here. > > But Modern Med. research has a handicap. All Research agencies have partnered > with Drug Companies whose policies is not to go into Herbs research. If they spend > millions on herbs, herbs can not be patented so people will not get it from the > Drug companies since they can get herbs from stores & other sources. > > Lux Research - a division of Lux Health Resources has done the research & are successful in trials. > > For mild cases - 2 treatments. > Moderate - 3 - 5 treatments. > Severe - 5 to 7 treatments. > And each treatment takes only 21 days so that's not long to wair. > > If you or someone you know are interested as a subject for trials contact us. > We will shoulder the costs, you will not be charged for the remedy. > Altho, we have success, the numbers are not enough to be acceptable > to the Medical World. > We will publish the results in a Health or Science journal which is our objective. > > > > Contact us - Lux Research at > himmerland2000@... <mailto:himmerland2000%40yahoo.ca> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 I do both probiotics and cinnamon. The probiotics are living, made from kefir (fermented raw goat milk), kombucha, fermented veggies, sprouted grains, cheese made from raw goat milk and sourdough bread. I eat fermented butter made from grass fed cows when I can get it. Cinnamon is good for balancing blood sugar, particularly important if you are insulin resistant. I feel great but I'm still not walking. No progression of MS, knock wood. I take lots of different enzymes. > > Has anyone researched Probiotics? > > It was brought up recently from an MS friend and had heard > > About it, but never looked into it. > > How about Cinnamon for MS. Stops progression in mice. > > Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 Is sour dough bread a good probiotic? I thought it was not good??? > > > > Has anyone researched Probiotics? > > > > It was brought up recently from an MS friend and had heard > > > > About it, but never looked into it. > > > > How about Cinnamon for MS. Stops progression in mice. > > > > Diane > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 Is sour dough bread a good probiotic? I thought it was not good??? > > > > Has anyone researched Probiotics? > > > > It was brought up recently from an MS friend and had heard > > > > About it, but never looked into it. > > > > How about Cinnamon for MS. Stops progression in mice. > > > > Diane > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 I wouldn't make it my only source of probiotics but it is fermented and the sourdough produces acids that break down gluten. The center does not get hot enough to kill the enzymes. It's more trouble than it's worth sometimes and I don't make it often but it's nice to have bread once in awhile. I also make bread with coconut flour or rice flour for a change, not often. http://www.cheeseslave.com/2009/03/31/top-10-reasons-to-eat-real-sourdough-bread\ -even-if-youre-gluten-intolerant/ > > > > > > Has anyone researched Probiotics? > > > > > > It was brought up recently from an MS friend and had heard > > > > > > About it, but never looked into it. > > > > > > How about Cinnamon for MS. Stops progression in mice. > > > > > > Diane > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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