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About 6 months before I went into a hyperthyroid crisis and was

hospitalized, I developed a floater in my eye which blurs my

vision and I must continually move my eye to keep it out of my

line of vision. I asked my doctor, who sent me to a specialist,

who told me there was no connection. He said it was due to the

natural aging of the eye. I feel as you do, however, that this is

very directly related. I have had small floaties all my life but

this one refuses to go away. It has been almost three years and

is very annoying. If you hear of any research having been done or

presently being done, please let me know. I want to present it to

my doctor for his evaluation and if it is viable, I want it done!

thank you

Floaters

>Does anyone have any info about floaters? Someone emailed me

once

>about how protein-binding can possibly cause this problem.

After

>extensive research I have not found any reference to the ATDs

causing

>this problem. The floaters got considerably worse several

months after

>I was diagnosed in 1996. Is there any natural way to prevent

further

>problems? I undetstand there is not an easy surgical procedure

to

>correct this problem.

>

>I'm looking for a homeopathic path - any advice/guidance/info is

>greatly appreciated...thanks

>

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Mona, I personally don't know of a way. But there's a homeopathic college

in Del Mar, it's California Naturopathic College, 800-354-8166. You might

check in with them. Good luck!

Lynn

Floaters

Does anyone have any info about floaters? Someone emailed me once

about how protein-binding can possibly cause this problem. After

extensive research I have not found any reference to the ATDs causing

this problem. The floaters got considerably worse several months after

I was diagnosed in 1996. Is there any natural way to prevent further

problems? I undetstand there is not an easy surgical procedure to

correct this problem.

I'm looking for a homeopathic path - any advice/guidance/info is

greatly appreciated...thanks

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Also,

There is a website for floaters at http://www.floaters.net/fworld.html

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This is some info I have found about floaters. No Candida connnection is

mentioned here. Any ideas?

Floaters

Myths:

Nothing can be done about floaters.

Facts:

There may be treatment and prevention through proper diet and supplements.

Overview:

Floaters are an appropriate name for these small dark shapes that appear

before your eyes, because float through your field of vision is precisely

what they do. They are clumps of protein. These spots may look like dots,

squiggles, strands or any of a hundred other shapes. Though annoying,

floaters are harmless, and there are ways to prevent them through proper

diet.

Warning: If you suddenly become aware of new spots in our vision, see your

eye doctor right away to rule out serious problems.

Symptoms:

* Little dots or dust floating around your eye

Causes:

Most floaters are the result of bits of cells that remain in the vitreous

humor after birth and float around when the vitreous becomes more liquified

later in life.

Over 50% of people over 70 years of age report seeing floaters. Most

floaters are age-related. The vitreous humour thickens and clumps as we age,

and floaters result from the clumped vitreous gel.

Other spots can be caused by little bits of protein trapped within the eye

during pregnancy. Trauma to the eye or breakdown of the vitreous humour may

also cause spots and floaters. Many floaters remain in the eye for long

periods of time before they gradually disappear.

Floaters are commonly found in nearsighted people and people with food

allergies and candidiasis. Vitreous detachment is also common in diabetics,

but the highest rate of complaints of floaters is in people over the age of

70. This is when the prevalence of a vitreous detachment jumps from 10% of

the population to 63%.

From a Chinese Medicine perspective, floaters are an indication of

congestion in the liver, kidney and colon. The herbs and nutrients we

recommend below are chosen for their abilities to eliminate congestion in

these organs in order to keep the vitreous of the eye clear from these

annoying specks, as well as to help strengthen the retinal tissue and

integrity of the blood vessels.

Finally, we believe chronic stress in one's life may also play a role in the

generation of floaters, so having a daily routine of relaxation and

meditation is very important.

IMPORTANT NOTE: A sudden increase of floaters can be an indication of a

vitreous or retinal detachment. People who are very nearsighted and/or

diabetic are particularly prone to floaters and retinal tears. If you

suddenly new floaters, make an appointment with your eye doctor immediately.

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Oops, big mistake!!!! Candidiasis IS mentioned.

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From: " Paco " <franruiz@...>

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Subject: Re: Re: Floaters

Date: mart., 23 ener 2001 00:18

This is some info I have found about floaters. No Candida connnection is

mentioned here. Any ideas?

Floaters

Myths:

Nothing can be done about floaters.

Facts:

There may be treatment and prevention through proper diet and supplements.

Overview:

Floaters are an appropriate name for these small dark shapes that appear

before your eyes, because float through your field of vision is precisely

what they do. They are clumps of protein. These spots may look like dots,

squiggles, strands or any of a hundred other shapes. Though annoying,

floaters are harmless, and there are ways to prevent them through proper

diet.

Warning: If you suddenly become aware of new spots in our vision, see your

eye doctor right away to rule out serious problems.

Symptoms:

* Little dots or dust floating around your eye

Causes:

Most floaters are the result of bits of cells that remain in the vitreous

humor after birth and float around when the vitreous becomes more liquified

later in life.

Over 50% of people over 70 years of age report seeing floaters. Most

floaters are age-related. The vitreous humour thickens and clumps as we age,

and floaters result from the clumped vitreous gel.

Other spots can be caused by little bits of protein trapped within the eye

during pregnancy. Trauma to the eye or breakdown of the vitreous humour may

also cause spots and floaters. Many floaters remain in the eye for long

periods of time before they gradually disappear.

Floaters are commonly found in nearsighted people and people with food

allergies and candidiasis. Vitreous detachment is also common in diabetics,

but the highest rate of complaints of floaters is in people over the age of

70. This is when the prevalence of a vitreous detachment jumps from 10% of

the population to 63%.

From a Chinese Medicine perspective, floaters are an indication of

congestion in the liver, kidney and colon. The herbs and nutrients we

recommend below are chosen for their abilities to eliminate congestion in

these organs in order to keep the vitreous of the eye clear from these

annoying specks, as well as to help strengthen the retinal tissue and

integrity of the blood vessels.

Finally, we believe chronic stress in one's life may also play a role in the

generation of floaters, so having a daily routine of relaxation and

meditation is very important.

IMPORTANT NOTE: A sudden increase of floaters can be an indication of a

vitreous or retinal detachment. People who are very nearsighted and/or

diabetic are particularly prone to floaters and retinal tears. If you

suddenly new floaters, make an appointment with your eye doctor immediately.

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Laurel,

Cheney aimed a small flashlight in my eyes and said I had some speckling on

my irises. He said that was caused by mercury. Not that my condition was

caused by mercury but that because my body wasn't detoxifying properly the

mercury was going to my brain and I assume optic nerve or eyes. Steve B.

Floaters

> Does anyone here have floaters/spots in their eyes as a result of their

CFS?

> I've started seeing a couple spots. My brother and father have floaters

so

> I'm not sure if its hereditary or another CFS symptom.

> Thx,

> Laurel

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

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I don't, but my husband does (he doesn't have CFS) and

his specialist told him that it has to do with

diabetes and retinopathy (sp?).

--- LaurelLB@... wrote:

> Does anyone here have floaters/spots in their eyes

> as a result of their CFS?

> I've started seeing a couple spots. My brother and

> father have floaters so

> I'm not sure if its hereditary or another CFS

> symptom.

> Thx,

> Laurel

>

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I have floaters, but no diabetes and no retinopathy as of my last exam two

months ago. I was under the impression it was a part of CFS, although I know

of people with FMS that have them also.

Donna in NC

Re: Floaters

> I don't, but my husband does (he doesn't have CFS) and

> his specialist told him that it has to do with

> diabetes and retinopathy (sp?).

> --- LaurelLB@... wrote:

> > Does anyone here have floaters/spots in their eyes

> > as a result of their CFS?

> > I've started seeing a couple spots. My brother and

> > father have floaters so

> > I'm not sure if its hereditary or another CFS

> > symptom.

> > Thx,

> > Laurel

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

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Laurel asked: Does anyone here have floaters/spots in

their eyes as a result of their CFS.

Annette's reply; Hi Laurel, I have acute onset

viral-like ME. Floaters were pretty steady during the

first 10 years or so of this illness. For the last 8

years or so they appear in the mornings sometimes and

are a pretty good indication that my health (never

good)is about to plummet quickly.

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MSM eyedrops worked for me.

Chuck

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On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 13:17:33 -0600, " Price "

wrote:

>Does anyone have an effective remedy to improve

>FLOATERS in the eye?

>

>Thanks.

>jp

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Hi,

That's a good question. I've asked two doctors about this and they

both said there is nothing to be done,that eventually the eye gets

used to them being there and we don't notice it anymore. So far, it's

true.

Sandy

> Does anyone have an effective remedy to improve

> FLOATERS in the eye?

>

> Thanks.

> jp

>

>

>

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Dr. Schulzes eyewash will eliminate floaters (and cataracts, and pretty much

any other eye problem). It may take longer for some than others, but you

will notice the gradual diminution after a couple of weeks time. The only

thing is, you must use it consistently. they will not go away with just a

few washings.

This eyewash really makes the eyes feel great, too!

> Re: Floaters

>

> Hi,

> That's a good question. I've asked two doctors about this and they

> both said there is nothing to be done,that eventually the eye gets

> used to them being there and we don't notice it anymore. So far, it's

> true.

>

> Sandy

>

>

>

> > Does anyone have an effective remedy to improve

> > FLOATERS in the eye?

> >

> > Thanks.

> > jp

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Dr. Schulzes eyewash will eliminate floaters (and cataracts, and pretty much

any other eye problem). It may take longer for some than others, but you

will notice the gradual diminution after a couple of weeks time. The only

thing is, you must use it consistently. they will not go away with just a

few washings.

This eyewash really makes the eyes feel great, too!

> Re: Floaters

>

> Hi,

> That's a good question. I've asked two doctors about this and they

> both said there is nothing to be done,that eventually the eye gets

> used to them being there and we don't notice it anymore. So far, it's

> true.

>

> Sandy

>

>

>

> > Does anyone have an effective remedy to improve

> > FLOATERS in the eye?

> >

> > Thanks.

> > jp

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Dr. Schulzes eyewash will eliminate floaters (and cataracts, and pretty much

any other eye problem). It may take longer for some than others, but you

will notice the gradual diminution after a couple of weeks time. The only

thing is, you must use it consistently. they will not go away with just a

few washings.

This eyewash really makes the eyes feel great, too!

> Re: Floaters

>

> Hi,

> That's a good question. I've asked two doctors about this and they

> both said there is nothing to be done,that eventually the eye gets

> used to them being there and we don't notice it anymore. So far, it's

> true.

>

> Sandy

>

>

>

> > Does anyone have an effective remedy to improve

> > FLOATERS in the eye?

> >

> > Thanks.

> > jp

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Uh huh,

Since there is no blood supply to the floaters I don't

understand how it could work.

I've got floaters and am tempted to try it.

bubba

--- Wong111@... wrote:

>

>

> I thing you're making a very strong statement here.

> There is no known medical evidence that floaters can

> be eliminated, which would mean cured. If it is a

> torn retina, the hot pepper eye wash would only burn

> hell out of you.

>

> Some list members are so against allopathic medicine

> they won't even see a Dr. and if they follow your

> advice blindly then Old Schultze's formula better

> work.And not just on horses.

>

> I don't doubt your sincerity but can you give some

> proof?

>

> Sandy, have you had your eye pressure checked?

>

> Wong

>

>

> In a message dated Sun, 4 Nov 2001 3:21:47 PM

> Eastern Standard Time, " Marcus "

> writes:

>

> > Dr. Schulzes eyewash will eliminate floaters (and

> cataracts, and pretty much

> > any other eye problem). It may take longer for

> some than others, but you

> > will notice the gradual diminution after a couple

> of weeks time. The only

> > thing is, you must use it consistently. they will

> not go away with just a

> > few washings.

> >

> > This eyewash really makes the eyes feel great,

> too!

> >

> >

> >

> > > Re: Floaters

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > > That's a good question. I've asked two doctors

> about this and they

> > > both said there is nothing to be done,that

> eventually the eye gets

> > > used to them being there and we don't notice it

> anymore. So far, it's

> > > true.

> > >

> > > Sandy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > Does anyone have an effective remedy to

> improve

> > > > FLOATERS in the eye?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks.

> > > > jp

> >

> >

> >

> > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with

> oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help

> subjects.

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Uh huh,

Since there is no blood supply to the floaters I don't

understand how it could work.

I've got floaters and am tempted to try it.

bubba

--- Wong111@... wrote:

>

>

> I thing you're making a very strong statement here.

> There is no known medical evidence that floaters can

> be eliminated, which would mean cured. If it is a

> torn retina, the hot pepper eye wash would only burn

> hell out of you.

>

> Some list members are so against allopathic medicine

> they won't even see a Dr. and if they follow your

> advice blindly then Old Schultze's formula better

> work.And not just on horses.

>

> I don't doubt your sincerity but can you give some

> proof?

>

> Sandy, have you had your eye pressure checked?

>

> Wong

>

>

> In a message dated Sun, 4 Nov 2001 3:21:47 PM

> Eastern Standard Time, " Marcus "

> writes:

>

> > Dr. Schulzes eyewash will eliminate floaters (and

> cataracts, and pretty much

> > any other eye problem). It may take longer for

> some than others, but you

> > will notice the gradual diminution after a couple

> of weeks time. The only

> > thing is, you must use it consistently. they will

> not go away with just a

> > few washings.

> >

> > This eyewash really makes the eyes feel great,

> too!

> >

> >

> >

> > > Re: Floaters

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > > That's a good question. I've asked two doctors

> about this and they

> > > both said there is nothing to be done,that

> eventually the eye gets

> > > used to them being there and we don't notice it

> anymore. So far, it's

> > > true.

> > >

> > > Sandy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > Does anyone have an effective remedy to

> improve

> > > > FLOATERS in the eye?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks.

> > > > jp

> >

> >

> >

> > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with

> oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help

> subjects.

> >

> > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

> >

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Uh huh,

Since there is no blood supply to the floaters I don't

understand how it could work.

I've got floaters and am tempted to try it.

bubba

--- Wong111@... wrote:

>

>

> I thing you're making a very strong statement here.

> There is no known medical evidence that floaters can

> be eliminated, which would mean cured. If it is a

> torn retina, the hot pepper eye wash would only burn

> hell out of you.

>

> Some list members are so against allopathic medicine

> they won't even see a Dr. and if they follow your

> advice blindly then Old Schultze's formula better

> work.And not just on horses.

>

> I don't doubt your sincerity but can you give some

> proof?

>

> Sandy, have you had your eye pressure checked?

>

> Wong

>

>

> In a message dated Sun, 4 Nov 2001 3:21:47 PM

> Eastern Standard Time, " Marcus "

> writes:

>

> > Dr. Schulzes eyewash will eliminate floaters (and

> cataracts, and pretty much

> > any other eye problem). It may take longer for

> some than others, but you

> > will notice the gradual diminution after a couple

> of weeks time. The only

> > thing is, you must use it consistently. they will

> not go away with just a

> > few washings.

> >

> > This eyewash really makes the eyes feel great,

> too!

> >

> >

> >

> > > Re: Floaters

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > > That's a good question. I've asked two doctors

> about this and they

> > > both said there is nothing to be done,that

> eventually the eye gets

> > > used to them being there and we don't notice it

> anymore. So far, it's

> > > true.

> > >

> > > Sandy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > Does anyone have an effective remedy to

> improve

> > > > FLOATERS in the eye?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks.

> > > > jp

> >

> >

> >

> > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with

> oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help

> subjects.

> >

> > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

> >

> > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The

> things you will find here are for information and

> research purposes only. We are people sharing

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Hi,

Yes, I did. It was normal. I suddenly had a " light show " in one of

my eyes. Very scary. My optometrist saw me immediately. She

explained about the particles becoming disloged and becoming

floaters. The main concern was the potential of a detached retina, I

believe. I was told to head for the hospital if it continued. I was

on alert for a few days, but all is well. I'm sure the floaters are

still there, but I'm not conscious of them anymore unless I'm

extremely fatigued. I can't imagine how eye drops would impact on

them. Once the particles break away, it's a done deal.

Sandy

> > > > Does anyone have an effective remedy to improve

> > > > FLOATERS in the eye?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks.

> > > > jp

> >

> >

> >

> > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative

therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects.

> >

> > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

> >

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find here are for information and research purposes only. We are

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Hi,

Yes, I did. It was normal. I suddenly had a " light show " in one of

my eyes. Very scary. My optometrist saw me immediately. She

explained about the particles becoming disloged and becoming

floaters. The main concern was the potential of a detached retina, I

believe. I was told to head for the hospital if it continued. I was

on alert for a few days, but all is well. I'm sure the floaters are

still there, but I'm not conscious of them anymore unless I'm

extremely fatigued. I can't imagine how eye drops would impact on

them. Once the particles break away, it's a done deal.

Sandy

> > > > Does anyone have an effective remedy to improve

> > > > FLOATERS in the eye?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks.

> > > > jp

> >

> >

> >

> > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative

therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects.

> >

> > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

> >

> > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will

find here are for information and research purposes only. We are

people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found

here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence,

common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own

actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY

responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without

consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or

health care provider.

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Hi Vilik

Haven't corresponded with you for a long time but still do read all your

interesting posts.

Floaters is not a torn retina. A torn retina can cause floaters. This is usually

the first thing the ole Doc checks. Next is excessive eye pressure. Lowering the

eye pressure usually alleviates the condition and sometimes even eliminates it

for awhile. Eye drops are used to lower eye pressure which is similar to the

treatment for glucoma.This is not a cure.

My medical sources say they do not know what causes floaters, it is not limited

to seniors and do not usually self correct.And yes, they sometimes just go away.

But no one knows why.

However, if your information is correct it would be just wonderful. I've had

them for 10 years. BTW,have you seen lighting flashes yet?

Also IMHO none of this accupunture, tai chi, qi gong will help.

wONG

In a message dated Wed, 7 Nov 2001 12:58:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, Vilik

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> Wong wrote:

>

> There is no known medical evidence that floaters can be eliminated,

> which would mean cured. If it is a torn retina, the hot pepper eye

> wash would only burn hell out of you.

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~

>

> I have floaters, have been to an opthomologist. Let me share with

> you what I learned. Floaters are NOT a torn retina. Little pieces

> of something in the back of the eye detach, usually with age,

> and float around. It is a harmless condition. It often self-

> corrects, as gravity draws the pieces down and out of visual

> range. There is an acupuncture point that is claimed to help

> it...(didn't for me.) I don't know how drops could correct it,

> but they sure couldn't hurt, and I might try.

>

> ~^^V^^~

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Hi Vilik

Haven't corresponded with you for a long time but still do read all your

interesting posts.

Floaters is not a torn retina. A torn retina can cause floaters. This is usually

the first thing the ole Doc checks. Next is excessive eye pressure. Lowering the

eye pressure usually alleviates the condition and sometimes even eliminates it

for awhile. Eye drops are used to lower eye pressure which is similar to the

treatment for glucoma.This is not a cure.

My medical sources say they do not know what causes floaters, it is not limited

to seniors and do not usually self correct.And yes, they sometimes just go away.

But no one knows why.

However, if your information is correct it would be just wonderful. I've had

them for 10 years. BTW,have you seen lighting flashes yet?

Also IMHO none of this accupunture, tai chi, qi gong will help.

wONG

In a message dated Wed, 7 Nov 2001 12:58:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, Vilik

Rapheles writes:

> Wong wrote:

>

> There is no known medical evidence that floaters can be eliminated,

> which would mean cured. If it is a torn retina, the hot pepper eye

> wash would only burn hell out of you.

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~

>

> I have floaters, have been to an opthomologist. Let me share with

> you what I learned. Floaters are NOT a torn retina. Little pieces

> of something in the back of the eye detach, usually with age,

> and float around. It is a harmless condition. It often self-

> corrects, as gravity draws the pieces down and out of visual

> range. There is an acupuncture point that is claimed to help

> it...(didn't for me.) I don't know how drops could correct it,

> but they sure couldn't hurt, and I might try.

>

> ~^^V^^~

>

>

>

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other

alternative self-help subjects.

>

> THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

>

> This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are

for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information

we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk.

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Hi Vilik

Haven't corresponded with you for a long time but still do read all your

interesting posts.

Floaters is not a torn retina. A torn retina can cause floaters. This is usually

the first thing the ole Doc checks. Next is excessive eye pressure. Lowering the

eye pressure usually alleviates the condition and sometimes even eliminates it

for awhile. Eye drops are used to lower eye pressure which is similar to the

treatment for glucoma.This is not a cure.

My medical sources say they do not know what causes floaters, it is not limited

to seniors and do not usually self correct.And yes, they sometimes just go away.

But no one knows why.

However, if your information is correct it would be just wonderful. I've had

them for 10 years. BTW,have you seen lighting flashes yet?

Also IMHO none of this accupunture, tai chi, qi gong will help.

wONG

In a message dated Wed, 7 Nov 2001 12:58:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, Vilik

Rapheles writes:

> Wong wrote:

>

> There is no known medical evidence that floaters can be eliminated,

> which would mean cured. If it is a torn retina, the hot pepper eye

> wash would only burn hell out of you.

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~

>

> I have floaters, have been to an opthomologist. Let me share with

> you what I learned. Floaters are NOT a torn retina. Little pieces

> of something in the back of the eye detach, usually with age,

> and float around. It is a harmless condition. It often self-

> corrects, as gravity draws the pieces down and out of visual

> range. There is an acupuncture point that is claimed to help

> it...(didn't for me.) I don't know how drops could correct it,

> but they sure couldn't hurt, and I might try.

>

> ~^^V^^~

>

>

>

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other

alternative self-help subjects.

>

> THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

>

> This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are

for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information

we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk.

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Sandy

I can imagine what you experienced. The first time I saw mine was like a fire

work display.

My friend has gotten so bad he quit driving. He's had 'em for about 15 years.

My wife recently saw bright flashes and I see lightning besides the usual dots.

Apparently high eye pressure had something to do with her situation. When the

pressure was brought down to near normal,the flashes disappeared,although

occasionally she sees spots.

The eye drops, in her case, were used to lower the pressure but since you're

o.k. in that respect it would be of no use to you.

Wong

In a message dated Tue, 6 Nov 2001 8:57:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,

moldovansandy@... writes:

> Hi,

>

> Yes, I did. It was normal. I suddenly had a " light show " in one of

> my eyes. Very scary. My optometrist saw me immediately. She

> explained about the particles becoming disloged and becoming

> floaters. The main concern was the potential of a detached retina, I

> believe. I was told to head for the hospital if it continued. I was

> on alert for a few days, but all is well. I'm sure the floaters are

> still there, but I'm not conscious of them anymore unless I'm

> extremely fatigued. I can't imagine how eye drops would impact on

> them. Once the particles break away, it's a done deal.

>

> Sandy

>

>

> > > > > Does anyone have an effective remedy to improve

> > > > > FLOATERS in the eye?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks.

> > > > > jp

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative

> therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects.

> > >

> > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

> > >

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> find here are for information and research purposes only. We are

> people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found

> here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence,

> common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own

> actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY

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Sandy

I can imagine what you experienced. The first time I saw mine was like a fire

work display.

My friend has gotten so bad he quit driving. He's had 'em for about 15 years.

My wife recently saw bright flashes and I see lightning besides the usual dots.

Apparently high eye pressure had something to do with her situation. When the

pressure was brought down to near normal,the flashes disappeared,although

occasionally she sees spots.

The eye drops, in her case, were used to lower the pressure but since you're

o.k. in that respect it would be of no use to you.

Wong

In a message dated Tue, 6 Nov 2001 8:57:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,

moldovansandy@... writes:

> Hi,

>

> Yes, I did. It was normal. I suddenly had a " light show " in one of

> my eyes. Very scary. My optometrist saw me immediately. She

> explained about the particles becoming disloged and becoming

> floaters. The main concern was the potential of a detached retina, I

> believe. I was told to head for the hospital if it continued. I was

> on alert for a few days, but all is well. I'm sure the floaters are

> still there, but I'm not conscious of them anymore unless I'm

> extremely fatigued. I can't imagine how eye drops would impact on

> them. Once the particles break away, it's a done deal.

>

> Sandy

>

>

> > > > > Does anyone have an effective remedy to improve

> > > > > FLOATERS in the eye?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks.

> > > > > jp

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative

> therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects.

> > >

> > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

> > >

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> find here are for information and research purposes only. We are

> people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found

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> common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own

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Sandy

I can imagine what you experienced. The first time I saw mine was like a fire

work display.

My friend has gotten so bad he quit driving. He's had 'em for about 15 years.

My wife recently saw bright flashes and I see lightning besides the usual dots.

Apparently high eye pressure had something to do with her situation. When the

pressure was brought down to near normal,the flashes disappeared,although

occasionally she sees spots.

The eye drops, in her case, were used to lower the pressure but since you're

o.k. in that respect it would be of no use to you.

Wong

In a message dated Tue, 6 Nov 2001 8:57:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,

moldovansandy@... writes:

> Hi,

>

> Yes, I did. It was normal. I suddenly had a " light show " in one of

> my eyes. Very scary. My optometrist saw me immediately. She

> explained about the particles becoming disloged and becoming

> floaters. The main concern was the potential of a detached retina, I

> believe. I was told to head for the hospital if it continued. I was

> on alert for a few days, but all is well. I'm sure the floaters are

> still there, but I'm not conscious of them anymore unless I'm

> extremely fatigued. I can't imagine how eye drops would impact on

> them. Once the particles break away, it's a done deal.

>

> Sandy

>

>

> > > > > Does anyone have an effective remedy to improve

> > > > > FLOATERS in the eye?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks.

> > > > > jp

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative

> therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects.

> > >

> > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

> > >

> > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will

> find here are for information and research purposes only. We are

> people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found

> here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence,

> common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own

> actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY

> responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without

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