Re: AA Trickery (was: OT to )

[Guest guest]

Railroad Rita wrote:

> Bob --

> Thought you might want to see an example of the trickery to which

> you refer, straight out of the horse's (jackass's?) mouth:

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That's why, whenever I point out A.A. bs, I strictly adhere to A.A.'s

own writings. Don't get me wrong- I respect the wealth of knowledge

about A.A. available on this board. But when you shove their own words

in their face, they have nowhere to run. Of course, you've seen them try

to create escape hatches by disavowing the words as not " the true A.A.

program " . But even then, I get the amusement of seeing them say that

" you wont find the A.A. program in meetings "

[Guest guest]

'we agnostics " is the largets load crap you will find. you can find

searchable big books on web.

" railroad rita " wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=14071

> robert warner wrote:

> original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=140

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> >

> > The " remarkable gall " comment was in connection with Winters' main

> > concern that, having attended three or four meetings before

> sentencing,

> > I had waived my Constitutional rights because I knew of A.A.'s

> > religiosity before sentencing and didn't object. This concern

resulted

> > in the case being remanded to the trial court for a decision on

> > " waiver " . This is where A.A.'s lies about " religious not spiritual "

> were

> > exposed to the light of day. The cpourt ruled that because A.A. and

> > probation told me that it wasn't religious, I did not make a

" knowing

> > and intelligent " decision in regards to not objecting to A.A. at

> > sentencing. This is why I get my hackles up when people speak of the

> > " good qualities " of A.A.; they are full of s**t from beginning to

end

> > and their trickery came thisclose to costing me my civil and human

> > rights. The fact that it's snake oil aside, they lie through their

> > teeth, try to trick people out of their rights, and are proud of it.

> >