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Hi Carol,

This isn't a scientific reply but it really helped me

I did karate for a number of years and injured my hands

a lot and they were similar to yours plus milked a lot of

goat :) .

I found that as I sculpted with clay it loosened them up

Polymer clay works well and it is neat and you can

create at the same time(it bakes in your oven )

! It focuses your attention on what you are doing but

gently loosens up your hands. Sculpey is fairly soft

and the warmth of your hands softens it more.

This may be silly to technical people but it really

helped me.

best, Leila

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<<Does anyone have any suggestions for tendonitis in the palm of the hand?

The palm of my hand is so tight that I can not make a fist or open up the

hand>>

They can inject prednisone but you probably know the drawbacks to that, it

is hard on the tendons, and can't be done too often. Are you splinting the

hand at night? That can help prevent the contractures. If you don't have

any splints, you can improvise them with some Ace bandages. I've been doing

that for my worst finger at night with an ace bandage and one of those

finger splints you buy at the drugstore. And there are other splints you can

buy online.

Have you had the doctor look at it? It might be one of those things that

are better not to let it go too long. I don't think there is much they can

do for them if they get too bad, short of surgery. Unless the prolotherapy

Ethel has told us about works on them.

Good luck Carol! You seem to be having a bad time lately? Is everything

(relatively) ok? Liz G.

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> <<Does anyone have any suggestions for tendonitis in the palm of the hand?

> The palm of my hand is so tight that I can not make a fist or open up the

> hand>>

>

Have you had the doctor look at it? It might be one of those things

that

> are better not to let it go too long. I don't think there is much they can

> do for them if they get too bad, short of surgery. Unless the prolotherapy

> Ethel has told us about works on them.

Prolotherapy should relieve the problem, but with only about 400

practitioners in the country, finding one might be a problem.

Ethel

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I know this is not going to be a popular answer, but I'll give it a shot (no pun intended!) anyway. Before the minocin, I had terrible tendonitis. It was my main RA symptom. I had a fabulous rheumy (gave me minocin) who gave my badly affected areas cortisone shots. He only shot the areas once, and they resolved, and I was pain-free, w/ no recurrence. He told me that results aren't always that good, but he hit the right spots, was expert, and I started the protocol which,so far, knock wood, has protected against recurrences. I suggest you might want to think about it if it's realllllllllly bad. I had some tendons I did not treat, but they didn't interfere w/ my functioning.

Hope this helps and that you feel better! I also had one successful round of acupuncture on wrist tendonitis, but a second time, that failed.

G.

rheumatic Tendon problems

Grp: Does anyone have any suggestions for tendonitis in the palm of the hand? The palm of my hand is so tight that I can not make a fist or open up the hand. Fingers are okay other than due to tightness - I can not straighten them! I have tried applying ice/heat/massage. I can feel a knot- help! Thanks, Carol* To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups

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Oh Carol, I'm sorry your hand hurts. I used to get that horrible cramp like

a charlie horse on the inside of my elbow and it would hurt then just go

away. Isn't there a mineral we are short on that helps eleviate these

cramps. It may be zinc but I can't remember. I hope you get some answers

because I know how these cramps hurt.

Hugs,

Bev

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Dear all,

For tendonitis in your hand prednisone shots or acupuncture with one

needle from LI4 (large intestine 4) to SI3 (small intestine 3) acupuncture

points. Try to find someone good either way you choose to go. Good luck,

seg14 wrote:

I

know this is not going to be a popular answer, but I'll give it a shot

(no pun intended!) anyway. Before the minocin, I had terrible tendonitis.

It was my main RA symptom. I had a fabulous rheumy (gave me minocin)

who gave my badly affected areas cortisone shots. He only shot the

areas once, and they resolved, and I was pain-free, w/ no recurrence.

He told me that results aren't always that good, but he hit the right spots,

was expert, and I started the protocol which,so far, knock wood, has protected

against recurrences. I suggest you might want to think about it if

it's realllllllllly bad. I had some tendons I did not treat, but

they didn't interfere w/ my functioning.Hope

this helps and that you feel better! I also had one successful round

of acupuncture on wrist tendonitis, but a second time, that failed.

G.

rheumatic Tendon problems

Grp:

Does anyone have any suggestions

for tendonitis in the palm of the hand?

The palm of my hand is so

tight that I can not make a fist or open up the

hand. Fingers

are okay other than due to tightness - I can not straighten

them! I have tried

applying ice/heat/massage. I can feel a knot- help!

Thanks,

Carol*

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I have tendonitis in palm (rt.) which, when it really acts up, I use

Aspercreme or Tiger Balm. I do, however, recommend you get it looked at.

Be well.

Babs

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200 mg. Doxycycline

112 mcg. Synthroid

2 mg. Hytrin

Mestinon

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  • 8 years later...

> I started having achilles tendon pain about a week ago...strong

> enough to make walking painful. No particular trauma or cause that I

> can tell.

I've used eccentric exercise to successfully treat tendinitis. It wasn't the

Achilles though. I also used Gotu Kola and Red LED (660 nm) therapy, but don't

know if they helped. They didn't work without the eccentric exercise.

http://www.sportsinjurybulletin.com/archive/achilles-tendinosis.html

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Did you use any antibiotics recently? Some antibiotics give me tendon problems.

cindi

Re: Tendon problems

> I started having achilles tendon pain about a week ago...strong

> enough to make walking painful. No particular trauma or cause that I

> can tell.

I've used eccentric exercise to successfully treat tendinitis. It wasn't the

Achilles though. I also used Gotu Kola and Red LED (660 nm) therapy, but don't

know if they helped. They didn't work without the eccentric exercise.

http://www.sportsinjurybulletin.com/archive/achilles-tendinosis.html

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other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

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You should search the archives of this forum for " tendon problems " or

" tendon pain " etc. I believe there has been at least one substance

discussed in the past which has caused this type of problem, I just

don't remember which one.

Marcia on

in Salem, Massachusetts

On Dec 30, 2009, at 6:21 AM, cindi wrote:

> Did you use any antibiotics recently? Some antibiotics give me

> tendon problems.

> cindi

> Re: Tendon problems

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> > I started having achilles tendon pain about a week ago...strong

> > enough to make walking painful. No particular trauma or cause that I

> > can tell.

>

> I've used eccentric exercise to successfully treat tendinitis. It

> wasn't the Achilles though. I also used Gotu Kola and Red LED (660

> nm) therapy, but don't know if they helped. They didn't work without

> the eccentric exercise.

>

> http://www.sportsinjurybulletin.com/archive/achilles-tendinosis.html

>

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> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences

> with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested

> in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

> Groups Links

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Fluoroquinolones

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/463008

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/324/7349/1306

cindi

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> > I started having achilles tendon pain about a week ago...strong

> > enough to make walking painful. No particular trauma or cause that I

> > can tell.

>

> I've used eccentric exercise to successfully treat tendinitis. It

> wasn't the Achilles though. I also used Gotu Kola and Red LED (660

> nm) therapy, but don't know if they helped. They didn't work without

> the eccentric exercise.

>

> http://www.sportsinjurybulletin.com/archive/achilles-tendinosis.html

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences

> with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested

> in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

> Groups Links

>

>

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You haven't happen to take a quinalone antiobiotic in the past 1 year have

you?  I don't know if those two drugs (antibiotcis I think)  you mention can

cause tendon pain as well as the 2 other ones you mention.

 

other possibility is it is the disease itself causing the pain.   FM definitely

causes muscle and tendon pain and even ME/CFS (although to a lesser extent I

would say).

 

sorry I couldnt be of more help.  hopefully the achilles pain resides in

time.  I have been  dealing with plantar pain for over 1 year now and hurt my

finger and thumb tendons trying to open a stobborn jar.   I have FM and

ME/CFS.

 

cheers

From: cancfs <ambitious8@...>

Subject: Tendon problems

Received: Monday, December 28, 2009, 2:15 PM

 

I started having achilles tendon pain about a week ago...strong enough to make

walking painful. No particular trauma or cause that I can tell.

I am on Biaxin and Mepron as well as clonazepam and gabapentin for sleep. Do any

of you know if any of these meds could cause tendon pain. I looked it up and

couldn't find anything that indicated that they could.

I was woundering if anybody else has additional info.

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Just a quick note to say that the Quinolone (sp?) types of antibiotic (Cipro

is just one of many; think of Levaquin and others with the letters 'quin' in

them) are well known to cause tendon damage.

Two minerals are also well known to help strengthen tendons: manganese and

iodine.

HTH,

Sharon

> [mailto: ] On Behalf Of cindi

> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 6:21 AM

> Did you use any antibiotics recently? Some antibiotics give me tendon

> problems.

> cindi

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: krillin5

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>

>

> > I started having achilles tendon pain about a week ago...strong

> > enough to make walking painful. No particular trauma or cause that I

> > can tell.

>

> I've used eccentric exercise to successfully treat tendinitis. It wasn't

> the Achilles though. I also used Gotu Kola and Red LED (660 nm) therapy,

> but don't know if they helped. They didn't work without the eccentric

> exercise.

>

> http://www.sportsinjurybulletin.com/archive/achilles-tendinosis.html

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Thank you for the link on the sports injury page it seems to give helpful

exercises.

What is Gotu Kola?

(Moderator: Please google any terms you can before posting)

No I haven't taken any quinolones at all. That's wy I was surprised to suddenly

get this achilles pain.

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> What is Gotu Kola?

An herb that increases collagen synthesis. It's also a CCK antagonist, so it

could theoretically work against anxiety and panic.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16557473

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11106141

> No I haven't taken any quinolones at all. That's wy I was surprised

> to suddenly get this achilles pain.

I've had old plantar fasciitis and posterior tibial tendon injuries come back

for no reason, along with a new case of carpal tunnel syndrome, despite wearing

wrist support. I also get toe tingling, so I blame it all on defective

microcirculation. I can think of three mechanisms: hypercoagulation, deformed

red blood cells (nitric oxide usually gets the blame here, along with oxidative

cross-linking of membrane SH groups), or arteriovenous shunting that bypasses

the capillaries (I believe from excessive NO/substance P and/or inadequate

noradrenaline).

I suspect that I have a combination of the latter two. My sedimentation rate was

only 1 mm/h that last time I checked, which means deformed blood cells. Drugs

that increase noradrenaline like mirtazapine and bupropion make my toes feel

really nice, so I probably have the shunting effect too. When the tingling was a

big annoyance, it felt good in the morning and worst at bedtime, which

correlates with the circadian noradrenaline rhythm.

Plantar fasciitis resolved with use of arch supports in all shoes, not just

running shoes. The tendinitis required eccentric exercise for three months.

Carpal tunnel required two weeks of ibuprofen combined with wearing wrist

support while sleeping. Toe tingling isn't an annoyance anymore, but I still

notice that my toes feel really good when I take a bupropion.

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I used the Carpal Therapist very successfully for both fasciitis in my arm as

well as carpal tunnel syndrome. The thing's a miracle worker because it's

designed to perform myofascial release. All I can say is that I'm pain free

after 2 weeks of using it where almost nothing else helped. Check it out. Good

luck, Mike

>

> > What is Gotu Kola?

>

> An herb that increases collagen synthesis. It's also a CCK antagonist, so it

could theoretically work against anxiety and panic.

>

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16557473

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11106141

>

> > No I haven't taken any quinolones at all. That's wy I was surprised

> > to suddenly get this achilles pain.

>

> I've had old plantar fasciitis and posterior tibial tendon injuries come back

for no reason, along with a new case of carpal tunnel syndrome, despite wearing

wrist support. I also get toe tingling, so I blame it all on defective

microcirculation. I can think of three mechanisms: hypercoagulation, deformed

red blood cells (nitric oxide usually gets the blame here, along with oxidative

cross-linking of membrane SH groups), or arteriovenous shunting that bypasses

the capillaries (I believe from excessive NO/substance P and/or inadequate

noradrenaline).

>

> I suspect that I have a combination of the latter two. My sedimentation rate

was only 1 mm/h that last time I checked, which means deformed blood cells.

Drugs that increase noradrenaline like mirtazapine and bupropion make my toes

feel really nice, so I probably have the shunting effect too. When the tingling

was a big annoyance, it felt good in the morning and worst at bedtime, which

correlates with the circadian noradrenaline rhythm.

>

> Plantar fasciitis resolved with use of arch supports in all shoes, not just

running shoes. The tendinitis required eccentric exercise for three months.

Carpal tunnel required two weeks of ibuprofen combined with wearing wrist

support while sleeping. Toe tingling isn't an annoyance anymore, but I still

notice that my toes feel really good when I take a bupropion.

>

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i'm pretty paleo already, but i tend to have tendon inflammation and pain. i'm

38 and partially tore a tendon in my right thumb when i was 21 and have had

bicep tendonitis in both arms, pain in both thumbs (though i try to remember to

be careful how i use my hands), and occassionally in my elbows and wrists.

is there anything paleo i can eat that might help? i can't eat

crabs/shrimp/lobsters due to their natural msg content and i'm sensitive to

iodine levels. any thoughts?

thanks!

sarah

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Did you use quinolones prior to the tendon problems? Like Cipro, Levaquin,

Avelox? They can suddenly deplete magnesium, which causes tendons to tear.

People who take them with an NSAID like ibuprophin are more likely to have

adverse reactions, which is known but not always told to the patient. The

condition can last for many years after a " floxing " and as far as I know the

best treatment is lots of magnesium supplementation and careful exercising. I

spoke with a orthomolecular doctor about it and she said vitamin D3 helps the

body maintain the right levels of magnesium. If you think that is what happened,

it is very important that you never take a quinolone drug again, as once people

react they are likely to get worse reactions with continued use. One tricky bit

is that farmed fish are given high doses of quinolones, so you can even have an

adverse reaction to eating farmed seafood!

>

> i'm pretty paleo already, but i tend to have tendon inflammation and pain. i'm

38 and partially tore a tendon in my right thumb when i was 21 and have had

bicep tendonitis in both arms, pain in both thumbs (though i try to remember to

be careful how i use my hands), and occassionally in my elbows and wrists.

>

> is there anything paleo i can eat that might help? i can't eat

crabs/shrimp/lobsters due to their natural msg content and i'm sensitive to

iodine levels. any thoughts?

>

> thanks!

>

> sarah

>

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i've never taken anything like that and, as far as i know, it's been at least a

year since i've eaten much farmed fish (basically since i found out how bad they

can be). however, i used to supplement with magnesium but have not recently

because i was reacting to the " natural flavor " in the powder i bought. could it

be that my body just needs a lot more magnesium? i still had pain while i was

doing the magnesium, though not as much or for as long, but why wouldn't my

tendons heal to the point where they'd be strong enough to not hurt? would

weight-lifting with light weights help to build up the strength of the tendons?

thanks!

sarah

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> > i'm pretty paleo already, but i tend to have tendon inflammation and pain.

i'm 38 and partially tore a tendon in my right thumb when i was 21 and have had

bicep tendonitis in both arms, pain in both thumbs (though i try to remember to

be careful how i use my hands), and occassionally in my elbows and wrists.

> >

> > is there anything paleo i can eat that might help? i can't eat

crabs/shrimp/lobsters due to their natural msg content and i'm sensitive to

iodine levels. any thoughts?

> >

> > thanks!

> >

> > sarah

> >

>

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Make sure you're getting in bone broth daily that contains gelatin.  Sally

Fallon includes her recipes in " Nourishing Traditions " .  Make sure you're

getting in all your vitamins, minerals, nutrients too.  You can make 5 gallons

at once, freeze the other 4 gallons and consume a gallon a week if even.

Foods you should have daily are raw milk/raw yogurt, eggs, beef liver, and

fermented codliver oil.  They all contains vitamins that work together to store

a good balance of minerals.

Finally you should make sure you're getting plenty of magnesium daily.  Foods

now in days are deficient in magnesium so the most economical route is

supplementation.  You want to have 4mg of magnesium for every pound of body

weight.  The only magnesium supplement I would recommend are magnesium chloride

crystals for baths.  Magnesium chloride is 100% absorb-able whereas all other

types are only 5% absorb-able.  The only other good source would be food but

again food doesn't contain that much magnesium in it now in days.  People over

the age of 40 are said to have a difficult time absorbing other forms of

magnesium.  They can absorb magnesium chloride 100%.  I believe 90% of the

world's population are deficient in magnesium.  In regions where magnesium is

plentiful rates of cancer are almost non-existent.

http://life-enthusiast.com/usa/magnesium-crystals-2270g-p-821.html

Dan Holt

From: <sarahlyao@...>

Subject: Re: tendon problems

Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 11:35 AM

 

i've never taken anything like that and, as far as i know, it's been at

least a year since i've eaten much farmed fish (basically since i found out how

bad they can be). however, i used to supplement with magnesium but have not

recently because i was reacting to the " natural flavor " in the powder i bought.

could it be that my body just needs a lot more magnesium? i still had pain while

i was doing the magnesium, though not as much or for as long, but why wouldn't

my tendons heal to the point where they'd be strong enough to not hurt? would

weight-lifting with light weights help to build up the strength of the tendons?

thanks!

sarah

> >

> > i'm pretty paleo already, but i tend to have tendon inflammation and pain.

i'm 38 and partially tore a tendon in my right thumb when i was 21 and have had

bicep tendonitis in both arms, pain in both thumbs (though i try to remember to

be careful how i use my hands), and occassionally in my elbows and wrists.

> >

> > is there anything paleo i can eat that might help? i can't eat crabs/shrimp/

lobsters due to their natural msg content and i'm sensitive to iodine levels.

any thoughts?

> >

> > thanks!

> >

> > sarah

> >

>

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MSM cured my tendonitis. I now know that the true cause was hypothyroidism. I

take Nutri Meds which is a thyroid glandular.

www.stopthethyroidmadness.com for starters.

Joan

>

> i'm pretty paleo already, but i tend to have tendon inflammation and pain. i'm

38 and partially tore a tendon in my right thumb when i was 21 and have had

bicep tendonitis in both arms, pain in both thumbs (though i try to remember to

be careful how i use my hands), and occassionally in my elbows and wrists.

>

> is there anything paleo i can eat that might help? i can't eat

crabs/shrimp/lobsters due to their natural msg content and i'm sensitive to

iodine levels. any thoughts?

>

> thanks!

>

> sarah

>

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One thing I read said that when people feel pain in their tendons, it's rarely

the tendon that is actually the cause - it's something surrounding them - i.e.

the joint or some muscle or inflammation in general.

Of course, if you tore a tendon, that's different. I wonder if what you're

experiencing is fibromyalgia, which is defined as pain in the muscles?

Especially if it's in more than one spot and moves from place to place.

Some things to try or look into:

Omega 3 supplements - anti inflammatory

l-tryptophan - if it sounds like fibromyalgia that helps reduce the pain in a

lot of people

check your teeth - Price's work on how bacteria live in root canal teeth send

out toxins and cause arthritis and other problems

dysbiosis - inflammation in the intestines leads to sensitivities and aches and

pains - the GAPS diet, s. boulardii, biofilm article that was posted here

recently, and eating lots of live ferments may help with that.

> > >

> > > i'm pretty paleo already, but i tend to have tendon inflammation and pain.

i'm 38 and partially tore a tendon in my right thumb when i was 21 and have had

bicep tendonitis in both arms, pain in both thumbs (though i try to remember to

be careful how i use my hands), and occassionally in my elbows and wrists.

> > >

> > > is there anything paleo i can eat that might help? i can't eat

crabs/shrimp/lobsters due to their natural msg content and i'm sensitive to

iodine levels. any thoughts?

> > >

> > > thanks!

> > >

> > > sarah

> > >

> >

>

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It could also be because your muscles around the tendons are weak.  If you

walk, get active, or exercise you can build up those muscles and it will help

with your tendons.  Activity also strengthens bone density, joint development.

Dan Holt

From: haecklers <haecklers@...>

Subject: Re: tendon problems

Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 5:48 AM

 

One thing I read said that when people feel pain in their tendons, it's

rarely the tendon that is actually the cause - it's something surrounding them -

i.e. the joint or some muscle or inflammation in general.

Of course, if you tore a tendon, that's different. I wonder if what you're

experiencing is fibromyalgia, which is defined as pain in the muscles?

Especially if it's in more than one spot and moves from place to place.

Some things to try or look into:

Omega 3 supplements - anti inflammatory

l-tryptophan - if it sounds like fibromyalgia that helps reduce the pain in a

lot of people

check your teeth - Price's work on how bacteria live in root canal teeth send

out toxins and cause arthritis and other problems

dysbiosis - inflammation in the intestines leads to sensitivities and aches and

pains - the GAPS diet, s. boulardii, biofilm article that was posted here

recently, and eating lots of live ferments may help with that.

> > >

> > > i'm pretty paleo already, but i tend to have tendon inflammation and pain.

i'm 38 and partially tore a tendon in my right thumb when i was 21 and have had

bicep tendonitis in both arms, pain in both thumbs (though i try to remember to

be careful how i use my hands), and occassionally in my elbows and wrists.

> > >

> > > is there anything paleo i can eat that might help? i can't eat

crabs/shrimp/ lobsters due to their natural msg content and i'm sensitive to

iodine levels. any thoughts?

> > >

> > > thanks!

> > >

> > > sarah

> > >

> >

>

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i do have fibromyalgia (diagnosed in 2001) and i do exercise those joints. i

deliver newspapers every week and have to throw about 1000 from both sides of

the car while driving. i also do lifting at home. i'm a sahm/wahm to a

homeschooling 4.5 year old. i definitely don't sit as much as i used to at the

office. ;-)

thanks!

sarah

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pain. i'm 38 and partially tore a tendon in my right thumb when i was 21 and

have had bicep tendonitis in both arms, pain in both thumbs (though i try to

remember to be careful how i use my hands), and occassionally in my elbows and

wrists.

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iodine levels. any thoughts?

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Judging from the info you've shared so far, I would seriously look into the

possibility that you have hypothyroidism " type 2 " -- that is, your cells are

resistant to the active thyroid hormone T3 even though testing may reveal that

you have enough in your bloodstream. Check your Basal Body Temperature for a few

days (not during menstruation) first thing in the morning. If it is 97.8 or

below then you would benefit from a few grains of desiccated thyroid (Armour)

and/or a more balanced " high everything " type of diet for a while to rev up the

metabolism from your hypometabolic state. In other words, your paleo diet may be

too high in protein and too low in carbohydrate, which slows thyroid function.

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> i do have fibromyalgia (diagnosed in 2001) and i do exercise those joints. i

deliver newspapers every week and have to throw about 1000 from both sides of

the car while driving. i also do lifting at home. i'm a sahm/wahm to a

homeschooling 4.5 year old. i definitely don't sit as much as i used to at the

office. ;-)

>

> thanks!

>

> sarah

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