Guest guest Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Hello Gail, Undenatured cystine is best known to produce a more potent master antioxidant glutathione. There are other undenatured antioxidants that also augment this. If they are heated they still boost glutathione but at much weaker levels. The growth and immune factors of raw milk also boost production of glutathione. Some vitamins and minerals may also play a role in the production of glutathione. Foods like onions may also have an effect on glutathione, not too sure. Raw foods carry their own natural digestive enzymes and probiotics. I don't know how your body goes about produces probiotics and digestive enzymes, that's a very technical question. <<<<Are you saying undenatured (uncooked) proteins boost glutathione and that undenatured protein, glutathione or antioxidants create probiotics or that they lead to the creation of probiotics?>>> You can produce serotonin and hgh when you exercise. You can also get hgh and from raw milk or raw colostrum. Some amino acids can aid in the release of serotonin. Serotonin and hgh or released together in balance. Your stomach's probiotics account for most of your serotonin production. Depression is higher than ever and we eat a mostly cooked and refined food diet. Eskimos were said to be the happiest people on Earth and they ate an almost purely raw food diet. They set meat out to age for up to a year called " high meat " so it would be predigested. It's probiotic content multiplies. Aajonus Vonderplantiz, a raw foodist, says eating high meat or probiotic rich foods can alleviate years of depression just after one swallow. If you keep your gut bacteria healthy and in optimal numbers you will have greater moods. Sometimes depression isn't just situational, but can be due to nutrition. Can't say if digestive enzymes are linked to serotonin and hgh. Your body uses it's own reserves to make it's own enzymes when the diet is absent in them. This leads to a weaker immune system that gets attacked by foreign invaders more often. You may also develop allergies and digestive problems to many cooked foods. I believe Sally Fallon Morrell said in her book " Nourishing Traditions " that years without adequate digestive enzymes leads to the body aging faster. <<<Does the production of serotonin and hgh require an external source of digestive enzymes or at least enzymes from raw food in addition to the enzymes that the body provides? >>>> Protein plays a part in the production of serotonin. As you can see from the above there are other factors to consider. The healthiest cutlures and the healthiest animals ate a purely raw food diet. Raw dairy and raw meat, fat, organs, and glands sometimes fermented ang aged were a big part to their health. Kimchi, Beet Kvass, and Sauerkraut are also great choices. <<I thought that the complete digestion of protein led to effective production of serotonin, glutathione as well as hormones. (But I have no formal training in this area so I my understanding is very general.) >> If you read Sally Fallon's Nourishing Traditions you'll see raw foods were a regular part of society, including Europe, up until a century ago at the beginning of the Industrial age. Some cultures have a 90% raw food diet whereas others had a 50/50 raw cooked diet. Our health has been on the decline within the last 100 years. Weston A. Price and many other great pioneers of that time started to see physical degeneration within cultures. Read " Nutrition and Physical Degeneration " whenever you get a chance. Now in days we have a number of growing health problems: aesteoperosis, arthritis, bone loss, clogged arteries, cancer, depression, 1/100 children are born autistic in the USA, higher rate of criminality, the list goes on. The only cooked food our body's have adapted to produce a greater abundance of digestive enzymes for are starches. That is because our guts cannot process raw starches. Over time raw starches take a toll on our health. Simple carbs in excess are bad for our health so man ate a higher proportion of their carbs as starches. I've heard it takes 500 generations for our body to evolve an adaption like that. <<<<Do we have to conclude that externally provided enzymes are required for digestion of cooked food because our bodies were not designed for cooked food? If that is the case why is it that the generations that preceded us survived and in some cases thrived on cooked food without digestive enzymes being widely available at stores or elsewhere? (Maybe cleaner and less processed food was available?) If man did not need them in the past and does need them now, it seems possible that we are evolving into a situation where people are losing their digestive capacity and will have to rely on externally digestive enzymes (or other tools) to survive as a species.>>> I don't see how it could create a dependency but I'd prefer the raw foods rather than supplementing. Sometimes it's safer for someone to supplement first to build up their health before they consume raw foods. A virus from raw food my body can handle could kill a sickly person who hasn't built up their health. A better choice than digestive enzyme supplements is to have some fermented raw food with your meals. A piece of raw starch, doesn't have to be much maybe the size of a pea, fermented kimchi, sauerkraut, and Beet Kvass. Raw proteins like raw eggs, raw milk, and sushi are also great choices. So you can mix cooked food and raw food together. <<Well as you can see I'm digressing here. I really was interested in whether people are creating a dependency by using them all the time.>> Dan Holt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 HGH can also be produced from the intake of amino acids contained in proteins. From: Holt <danthemanholt@...> Subject: Re: Re: Question about digestive enzymes Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 5:34 PM  Hello Gail,  Undenatured cystine is best known to produce a more potent master antioxidant glutathi one. There are other undenatured antioxidants that also augment this. If they are heated they still boost glutathione but at much weaker levels. The growth and immune factors of raw milk also boost production of glutathione. Some vitamins and minerals may also play a role in the production of glutathione. Foods like onions may also have an effect on glutathione, not too sure. Raw foods carry their own natural digestive enzymes and probiotics. I don't know how your body goes about produces probiotics and digestive enzymes, that's a very technical question. <<<<Are you saying undenatured (uncooked) proteins boost glutathione and that undenatured protein, glutathione or antioxidants create probiotics or that they lead to the creation of probiotics?> >> You can produce serotonin and hgh when you exercise. You can also get hgh and from raw milk or raw colostrum. Some amino acids can aid in the release of serotonin. Serotonin and hgh or released together in balance. Your stomach's probiotics account for most of your serotonin production. Depression is higher than ever and we eat a mostly cooked and refined food diet. Eskimos were said to be the happiest people on Earth and they ate an almost purely raw food diet. They set meat out to age for up to a year called " high meat " so it would be predigested. It's probiotic content multiplies. Aajonus Vonderplantiz, a raw foodist, says eating high meat or probiotic rich foods can alleviate years of depression just after one swallow. If you keep your gut bacteria healthy and in optimal numbers you will have greater moods. Sometimes depression isn't just situational, but can be due to nutrition. Can't say if digestive enzymes are linked to serotonin and hgh. Your body uses it's own reserves to make it's own enzymes when the diet is absent in them. This leads to a weaker immune system that gets attacked by foreign invaders more often. You may also develop allergies and digestive problems to many cooked foods. I believe Sally Fallon Morrell said in her book " Nourishing Traditions " that years without adequate digestive enzymes leads to the body aging faster.  <<<Does the production of serotonin and hgh require an external source of digestive enzymes or at least enzymes from raw food in addition to the enzymes that the body provides? >>>> Protein plays a part in the production of serotonin. As you can see from the above there are other factors to consider. The healthiest cutlures and the healthiest animals ate a purely raw food diet. Raw dairy and raw meat, fat, organs, and glands sometimes fermented ang aged were a big part to their health. Kimchi, Beet Kvass, and Sauerkraut are also great choices.  <<I thought that the complete digestion of protein led to effective production of serotonin, glutathione as well as hormones. (But I have no formal training in this area so I my understanding is very general.) >> If you read Sally Fallon's Nourishing Traditions you'll see raw foods were a regular part of society, including Europe, up until a century ago at the beginning of the Industrial age. Some cultures have a 90% raw food diet whereas others had a 50/50 raw cooked diet. Our health has been on the decline within the last 100 years. Weston A. Price and many other great pioneers of that time started to see physical degeneration within cultures. Read " Nutrition and Physical Degeneration " whenever you get a chance. Now in days we have a number of growing health problems: aesteoperosis, arthritis, bone loss, clogged arteries, cancer, depression, 1/100 children are born autistic in the USA, higher rate of criminality, the list goes on.  The only cooked food our body's have adapted to produce a greater abundance of digestive enzymes for are starches. That is because our guts cannot process raw starches. Over time raw starches take a toll on our health. Simple carbs in excess are bad for our health so man ate a higher proportion of their carbs as starches. I've heard it takes 500 generations for our body to evolve an adaption like that. <<<<Do we have to conclude that externally provided enzymes are required for digestion of cooked food because our bodies were not designed for cooked food? If that is the case why is it that the generations that preceded us survived and in some cases thrived on cooked food without digestive enzymes being widely available at stores or elsewhere? (Maybe cleaner and less processed food was available?) If man did not need them in the past and does need them now, it seems possible that we are evolving into a situation where people are losing their digestive capacity and will have to rely on externally digestive enzymes (or other tools) to survive as a species.>>> I don't see how it could create a dependency but I'd prefer the raw foods rather than supplementing. Sometimes it's safer for someone to supplement first to build up their health before they consume raw foods. A virus from raw food my body can handle could kill a sickly person who hasn't built up their health. A better choice than digestive enzyme supplements is to have some fermented raw food with your meals. A piece of raw starch, doesn't have to be much maybe the size of a pea, fermented kimchi, sauerkraut, and Beet Kvass. Raw proteins like raw eggs, raw milk, and sushi are also great choices. So you can mix cooked food and raw food together. <<Well as you can see I'm digressing here. I really was interested in whether people are creating a dependency by using them all the time.>> Dan Holt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 So, there are a couple amino acids that play a part in activating the master antioxidant glutathione. Undenatured cystine is best at activating a greater quanitity of master antioxidant glutathione.  Whey is best known for activating the most potent effects of glutathione. One reason is because it absorbs to quickly. 6 hour colostrum is the best choice and raw milk is the second best choice for activating glutathione IMO. They contain vitamins, minerals, lechithin, cla, hgh, immune factors, and undenatured proteins.  Dan Holt From: Holt <danthemanholt@...> Subject: Re: Re: Question about digestive enzymes Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 5:34 PM  Hello Gail,  Undenatured cystine is best known to produce a more potent master antioxidant glutathi one. There are other undenatured antioxidants that also augment this. If they are heated they still boost glutathione but at much weaker levels. The growth and immune factors of raw milk also boost production of glutathione. Some vitamins and minerals may also play a role in the production of glutathione. Foods like onions may also have an effect on glutathione, not too sure. Raw foods carry their own natural digestive enzymes and probiotics. I don't know how your body goes about produces probiotics and digestive enzymes, that's a very technical question. <<<<Are you saying undenatured (uncooked) proteins boost glutathione and that undenatured protein, glutathione or antioxidants create probiotics or that they lead to the creation of probiotics?> >> You can produce serotonin and hgh when you exercise. You can also get hgh and from raw milk or raw colostrum. Some amino acids can aid in the release of serotonin. Serotonin and hgh or released together in balance. Your stomach's probiotics account for most of your serotonin production. Depression is higher than ever and we eat a mostly cooked and refined food diet. Eskimos were said to be the happiest people on Earth and they ate an almost purely raw food diet. They set meat out to age for up to a year called " high meat " so it would be predigested. It's probiotic content multiplies. Aajonus Vonderplantiz, a raw foodist, says eating high meat or probiotic rich foods can alleviate years of depression just after one swallow. If you keep your gut bacteria healthy and in optimal numbers you will have greater moods. Sometimes depression isn't just situational, but can be due to nutrition. Can't say if digestive enzymes are linked to serotonin and hgh. Your body uses it's own reserves to make it's own enzymes when the diet is absent in them. This leads to a weaker immune system that gets attacked by foreign invaders more often. You may also develop allergies and digestive problems to many cooked foods. I believe Sally Fallon Morrell said in her book " Nourishing Traditions " that years without adequate digestive enzymes leads to the body aging faster.  <<<Does the production of serotonin and hgh require an external source of digestive enzymes or at least enzymes from raw food in addition to the enzymes that the body provides? >>>> Protein plays a part in the production of serotonin. As you can see from the above there are other factors to consider. The healthiest cutlures and the healthiest animals ate a purely raw food diet. Raw dairy and raw meat, fat, organs, and glands sometimes fermented ang aged were a big part to their health. Kimchi, Beet Kvass, and Sauerkraut are also great choices.  <<I thought that the complete digestion of protein led to effective production of serotonin, glutathione as well as hormones. (But I have no formal training in this area so I my understanding is very general.) >> If you read Sally Fallon's Nourishing Traditions you'll see raw foods were a regular part of society, including Europe, up until a century ago at the beginning of the Industrial age. Some cultures have a 90% raw food diet whereas others had a 50/50 raw cooked diet. Our health has been on the decline within the last 100 years. Weston A. Price and many other great pioneers of that time started to see physical degeneration within cultures. Read " Nutrition and Physical Degeneration " whenever you get a chance. Now in days we have a number of growing health problems: aesteoperosis, arthritis, bone loss, clogged arteries, cancer, depression, 1/100 children are born autistic in the USA, higher rate of criminality, the list goes on.  The only cooked food our body's have adapted to produce a greater abundance of digestive enzymes for are starches. That is because our guts cannot process raw starches. Over time raw starches take a toll on our health. Simple carbs in excess are bad for our health so man ate a higher proportion of their carbs as starches. I've heard it takes 500 generations for our body to evolve an adaption like that. <<<<Do we have to conclude that externally provided enzymes are required for digestion of cooked food because our bodies were not designed for cooked food? If that is the case why is it that the generations that preceded us survived and in some cases thrived on cooked food without digestive enzymes being widely available at stores or elsewhere? (Maybe cleaner and less processed food was available?) If man did not need them in the past and does need them now, it seems possible that we are evolving into a situation where people are losing their digestive capacity and will have to rely on externally digestive enzymes (or other tools) to survive as a species.>>> I don't see how it could create a dependency but I'd prefer the raw foods rather than supplementing. Sometimes it's safer for someone to supplement first to build up their health before they consume raw foods. A virus from raw food my body can handle could kill a sickly person who hasn't built up their health. A better choice than digestive enzyme supplements is to have some fermented raw food with your meals. A piece of raw starch, doesn't have to be much maybe the size of a pea, fermented kimchi, sauerkraut, and Beet Kvass. Raw proteins like raw eggs, raw milk, and sushi are also great choices. So you can mix cooked food and raw food together. <<Well as you can see I'm digressing here. I really was interested in whether people are creating a dependency by using them all the time.>> Dan Holt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 I'm thinking about:  http://www.ifnh.org/lifestyle_diet_wholefood_nutrition.htm www.nutritionaltherapy.com http://www.foodrenegade.com/introducing-an-e-course-in-traditional-foods-prepara\ tion/  Then I was thinking of doing some kind of personal training certification too. Yoga cert, those would be a good combination....  Dan Holt From: gailz059 <gailz059@...> Subject: Re: Question about digestive enzymes Date: Saturday, March 13, 2010, 9:21 AM  Hello , Thanks for all this information (which I need to digest). I asked about enzymes because I recently attended a training course pertaining to digestive enzymes. The instructor mentioned many health applications and benefits (very appealing, I'm sure many people went home planning to use the enzymes). However I had the impression that using enzymes for her and for her clients was a lifetime commitment. That is okay if people realize that it is for life. As I have asked around no one seems to agree whether or not the body needs to continue using the enzymes after improvement has been met. Of course it could be that practitioners that I talked to have success with their individual protocols when they use digestive enzymes so questions like mine have not come up. On a separate note... Are you person on this list who was investigating nutrition training programs? If so which one did you think was the best? I did see one in England (ION) which looked interesting but the clinical training is in England so it would not work for me. Gail > > > From: Holt <danthemanholt@ ...> > Subject: Re: Re: Question about digestive enzymes > > Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 5:34 PM > > >  > > > > > > Hello Gail, >  > Undenatured cystine is best known to produce a more potent master antioxidant glutathi one. There are other undenatured antioxidants that also augment this. If they are heated they still boost glutathione but at much weaker levels. The growth and immune factors of raw milk also boost production of glutathione. Some vitamins and minerals may also play a role in the production of glutathione. Foods like onions may also have an effect on glutathione, not too sure. > > Raw foods carry their own natural digestive enzymes and probiotics. I don't know how your body goes about produces probiotics and digestive enzymes, that's a very technical question. > > <<<<Are you saying undenatured (uncooked) proteins boost glutathione and that undenatured protein, glutathione or antioxidants create probiotics or that they lead to the creation of probiotics?> >> > > You can produce serotonin and hgh when you exercise. You can also get hgh and from raw milk or raw colostrum. Some amino acids can aid in the release of serotonin. Serotonin and hgh or released together in balance. Your stomach's probiotics account for most of your serotonin production. Depression is higher than ever and we eat a mostly cooked and refined food diet. Eskimos were said to be the happiest people on Earth and they ate an almost purely raw food diet. They set meat out to age for up to a year called " high meat " so it would be predigested. It's probiotic content multiplies. Aajonus Vonderplantiz, a raw foodist, says eating high meat or probiotic rich foods can alleviate years of depression just after one swallow. If you keep your gut bacteria healthy and in optimal numbers you will have greater moods. Sometimes depression isn't just situational, but can be due to nutrition. > > Can't say if digestive enzymes are linked to serotonin and hgh. Your body uses it's own reserves to make it's own enzymes when the diet is absent in them. This leads to a weaker immune system that gets attacked by foreign invaders more often. You may also develop allergies and digestive problems to many cooked foods. I believe Sally Fallon Morrell said in her book " Nourishing Traditions " that years without adequate digestive enzymes leads to the body aging faster. >  > <<<Does the production of serotonin and hgh require an external source of digestive enzymes or at least enzymes from raw food in addition to the enzymes that the body provides? >>>> > > Protein plays a part in the production of serotonin. As you can see from the above there are other factors to consider. The healthiest cutlures and the healthiest animals ate a purely raw food diet. Raw dairy and raw meat, fat, organs, and glands sometimes fermented ang aged were a big part to their health. Kimchi, Beet Kvass, and Sauerkraut are also great choices. >  > <<I thought that the complete digestion of protein led to effective production of serotonin, glutathione as well as hormones. (But I have no formal training in this area so I my understanding is very general.) >> > > If you read Sally Fallon's Nourishing Traditions you'll see raw foods were a regular part of society, including Europe, up until a century ago at the beginning of the Industrial age. Some cultures have a 90% raw food diet whereas others had a 50/50 raw cooked diet. Our health has been on the decline within the last 100 years. Weston A. Price and many other great pioneers of that time started to see physical degeneration within cultures. Read " Nutrition and Physical Degeneration " whenever you get a chance. Now in days we have a number of growing health problems: aesteoperosis, arthritis, bone loss, clogged arteries, cancer, depression, 1/100 children are born autistic in the USA, higher rate of criminality, the list goes on. >  > The only cooked food our body's have adapted to produce a greater abundance of digestive enzymes for are starches. That is because our guts cannot process raw starches. Over time raw starches take a toll on our health. Simple carbs in excess are bad for our health so man ate a higher proportion of their carbs as starches. I've heard it takes 500 generations for our body to evolve an adaption like that. > > <<<<Do we have to conclude that externally provided enzymes are required for digestion of cooked food because our bodies were not designed for cooked food? If that is the case why is it that the generations that preceded us survived and in some cases thrived on cooked food without digestive enzymes being widely available at stores or elsewhere? (Maybe cleaner and less processed food was available?) If man did not need them in the past and does need them now, it seems possible that we are evolving into a situation where people are losing their digestive capacity and will have to rely on externally digestive enzymes (or other tools) to survive as a species.>>> > > I don't see how it could create a dependency but I'd prefer the raw foods rather than supplementing. Sometimes it's safer for someone to supplement first to build up their health before they consume raw foods. A virus from raw food my body can handle could kill a sickly person who hasn't built up their health. A better choice than digestive enzyme supplements is to have some fermented raw food with your meals. A piece of raw starch, doesn't have to be much maybe the size of a pea, fermented kimchi, sauerkraut, and Beet Kvass. Raw proteins like raw eggs, raw milk, and sushi are also great choices. So you can mix cooked food and raw food together. > > <<Well as you can see I'm digressing here. I really was interested in whether people are creating a dependency by using them all the time.>> > > Dan Holt > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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