thyroid

January 30, 2007

Sorry 20 months was a typo..should have been 2 months..my bad...I'll

have to look for the results from last year or get a copy from my PCP

Monday. My results for TSH this month was TSH 6.04 mIU/ml (I don't

have the range handy but that's high).

I'll hopefully have the cortisol results Monday from last year..as far

as I know/knew it was normal.

> Hello All,

>

> After 3 weeks or whatever it's been..to refresh, on my bloodwork from

> the beginning of the month, my TSH was elevated. I asked about

> getting the T3 and T4 testing as well as the morning cortisol

> (although I had my morning cortisol done last year and it was normal).

> Anyways I finally heard back, and the Doctor wants me to be on Armour

> Thyroid for 20 months and get rechecked with the T3 and T4. They also

> are ok with me starting the Testosterone compound before then and

> re-testing at the same time.

>

> Anyone know anything about this medication? What about the difference

> between Androgel and a compounded mixture? She did specify

> bio-identical testosterone I believe (it's not in front of me)..

>

> Thanks!!

>

> ---------------------------------

> Don't be flakey. Get for Mobile and

> always stay connected to friends.

>

January 30, 2007

Still even 2 months is a long time when you just start Armour at there web site

they say to up the dose slow like 15mgs every 2 weeks. Staying on a low dose

for 2 months you feel better for a week and a half then go hypo again this is

worse then not taking it. Here is a cut and past on how I get started treating

my Adreals and Thyroid taking my Temps and charting them.

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Bill sorry to hear you have this problem your cortisol is lower then my first

test I was 8. The ACTH Stim test will show if it's you Adrenals or your

Pituitary not sending the message ACTH to your Adrenals to make Cortisol. Here

is a link to Chris's Explaination of the ACTH test you need to read this I have

seen posts where Dr.'s did it wrong. You need to be sure you understand about

this test and how to read it.

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=288.

Most people find out they have low cortisol because they have a low Thyroid

Problem one needs cortisol to carry the thyroid hormone from the blood to the

cells. If there cortisol is low do to Adrenal Fatigue there is not enough

cortisol to do this and as they up there meds they start to feel hyper because

the hormone is going to high in the blood and not being carried to the cells.

One big cause of Adrenal Fatigue is a low Thyroid the Adrenals work over time to

bring up levels of thyroid and become fatigued.

Now we are finding a lot of men with low T had Adrenal Fatigue do to the

stress of low T be it from the fatigue of low T or the high Estradiol. But it's

dam odd that as men hear about this and are not feeling 100% on TRT that after a

blood test there cortisol levels are low.

The first thing I did was to try and figure out what stage of Adrenal Fatigue

I was at and it looked like stage 3.

http://www.chronicfatigue.org/Selye%20large.html

Then I went to this site and printed out a chart for tracking your body's

temps. I would take it under my arm before getting out of bed for 10 min.'s if

it is under 97.8 you have a thyroid problem my temps that I did were for 4

morning and then I did an avg. it was 95.8.

http://www.drrind.com/tempgraph.asp#directions

Using this to take my temps it is also sold at Wall-Greens and Wal-mart.

http://www.wilsonsthyroidsyndrome.com/Products/Thermometer.htm

Then after I was up for 3 hrs I took my temp every 3 hrs 3 to 4 times a day

and did an avg. My avg. was low between 96.8 to 97.6 and each day was up or

down this is Adrenal Fatigue.

I then ordered a Saliva Test through this link.

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/

From the Canary Club for about $140.00 this is the best way to test cortisol

levels and DHEA.

Then I bought the book " Adrenal Fatigue The 21st. Century by . This

book was a big help in understanding this problem but doing what he said to

treat it with stuff like this did nothing to my temp chart. It has this in it

Pituitary Extract (Freeze-Dried) 120 mg

Adrenal Cortex Extract 33 mg and cortisol but you have no idea how much.

http://www.myvitanet.com/adsolfrac50c.html

Also he said to do B Vit.s.

http://www.myvitanet.com/endfadaenbco.html

Vit. C

http://www.myvitanet.com/supbiocbuf36.html

Everyone with low Cortisol has low DHEA I take this 2 a day.

http://www.myvitanet.com/dhea260capph.html

I take 3 grams of a good brand of Fish OIL. I buy mine at Coscos (spelling) I

get the one that is coated so you don't burp it up.

And there is Maca this helps keep your Adrenal hormones leveled. I was off

this for 30 days and just went back on it I feel better on this. I do 1/2 tsp 2

x's a day. This is the best price and product on he web.

http://www.macaweb.com/view.cfm/hurl/pid=1033/Maca-Powerreg--454g1-lbs-Raw-Maca-\

Powder

I dropped the Adrenal cortex

http://www.myvitanet.com/adsolfrac50c.html

It did nothing.

I got some Isocort and started on it it is made from sheep adrenal's and wow

the first pill made me feel good you need to start this slow. I did 4 pills =

10mgs. of cortisol first thing in the morning with food and 2 pills = 5mgs. of

cortisol at noon and dinner. This changed my chart my temps come up to 98.4 to

99 but still up and down if your avg. is up or down from day to day more then .2

tenths your cortisol is still to low. I followed this to get started.

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/how-to-treat

My Dr. would not give me Hydrocortisone said it's not safe to use. So I got

this book by Dr. Jefferies " Safe Uses of Cortisol "

http://members.aol.com/jefferiesw/

http://www.ccthomas.com/details.cfm?P_ISBN=039807500X

Showed this to my Dr. and he blew it off and pissed me off.

I got up to 120mgs of Armour and could not do more my charting even showed my

Adrenals were not right to go higher. So I switched to HC and stated with

10mgs. in the morning wow in less then a week my temps were a straight line

across at 98.6 first time in 8 months of charting things were looking good and I

was feeling better. So if you need to treat your Adrenals the best place for

help is Val. at this link.

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/community/viewforum.php?f=5

Most of the people posting there are Thyroid and Adrenal Fatigue but she helps

for Adrenals only too. Do get your thyroid checked have the TSH, Free T4 and

Free T3 checked and post them to her.

Phil

fkw1122 <fkw1122@...> wrote:

Sorry 20 months was a typo..should have been 2 months..my bad...I'll

have to look for the results from last year or get a copy from my PCP

Monday. My results for TSH this month was TSH 6.04 mIU/ml (I don't

have the range handy but that's high).

I'll hopefully have the cortisol results Monday from last year..as far

as I know/knew it was normal.

> Hello All,

>

> After 3 weeks or whatever it's been..to refresh, on my bloodwork from

> the beginning of the month, my TSH was elevated. I asked about

> getting the T3 and T4 testing as well as the morning cortisol

> (although I had my morning cortisol done last year and it was normal).

> Anyways I finally heard back, and the Doctor wants me to be on Armour

> Thyroid for 20 months and get rechecked with the T3 and T4. They also

> are ok with me starting the Testosterone compound before then and

> re-testing at the same time.

>

> Anyone know anything about this medication? What about the difference

> between Androgel and a compounded mixture? She did specify

> bio-identical testosterone I believe (it's not in front of me)..

>

> Thanks!!

>

> ---------------------------------

> Don't be flakey. Get for Mobile and

> always stay connected to friends.

>

January 30, 2007

Hi ,

First, I'm a female...but, I do take Armour Thyroid. Phil is right

about how Armour is dosed but it's okay to start the way your Doc

advised. You'll know soon enough if the dose needs adjusting and you

can always give your GP a call. I would advise using ARMOUR THYROID,

not a genric. Wow..what a difference it made for me! My dose

originally started at 60 mg. I have since tapered up to 90 in the

morning and 45 in the evening 3 time a week. It is suggested Armour

be split into 2 daily doses because of the short half life of T3 in

it. I do fine on the once a day and split doses 3 days though. It's a

cheap drug to purchase. Costs me less to get a 100 day supply at

Costco than to pay my co-pay each month.

Secondly, My DH, is using a compound gel and loves the results.

It's mixed in a gel base that is so much easier to use than Androgel.

His is a personal choice, not a necessity. Insurance does not cover

compound gels but the cost is only aobut 30 dollars a month.

PS: Phil, is doing pretty well on the Arimdex. He's using .25 mg

only once a week. More was too much for his system.

Vickie

In , " fkw1122 " <fkw1122@...> wrote:

>

> Hello All,

>

> After 3 weeks or whatever it's been..to refresh, on my bloodwork

from

> the beginning of the month, my TSH was elevated. I asked about

> getting the T3 and T4 testing as well as the morning cortisol

> (although I had my morning cortisol done last year and it was

normal).

> Anyways I finally heard back, and the Doctor wants me to be on

Armour

> Thyroid for 20 months and get rechecked with the T3 and T4. They

also

> are ok with me starting the Testosterone compound before then and

> re-testing at the same time.

>

> Anyone know anything about this medication? What about the

difference

> between Androgel and a compounded mixture? She did specify

> bio-identical testosterone I believe (it's not in front of me)..

>

> Thanks!!

>

February 1, 2007

Thanks Vickie, I might have guessed you were female from the name,

but I wouldn't have given it a second thought most likely.

What should I expect from the Armour Thyroid medication? How will I

know it's working/what should I be looking for in terms of results? I

take a large number of medications as-is for severe back problems (I

have an intrathecal morphine implant to reduce back pain) and I take

muscle relaxers, BP medicine..etc so i don't know what affects me

how..so it would be helpful to know how the thyroid medication should

feel..?

Thanks to everyone!!

>

> Hi ,

>

> First, I'm a female...but, I do take Armour Thyroid. Phil is right

> about how Armour is dosed but it's okay to start the way your Doc

> advised. You'll know soon enough if the dose needs adjusting and you

> can always give your GP a call. I would advise using ARMOUR THYROID,

> not a genric. Wow..what a difference it made for me! My dose

> originally started at 60 mg. I have since tapered up to 90 in the

> morning and 45 in the evening 3 time a week. It is suggested Armour

> be split into 2 daily doses because of the short half life of T3 in

> it. I do fine on the once a day and split doses 3 days though. It's a

>

February 1, 2007

YES, good advice; however, he can try the small Armour dose and go

from there. I would ask the doc to allow small incrememnt increases. I

had low cortisol that rose WITH thyroid meds, although it was a bumpy

ride & my cortisol could still be tweaked even now at 15. SOme

individuals with lower cortisol levels will see improvement once

commencing thyroid meds. Others will feel almost immediate hyperness

on small doses and will need cortisol supplementation.

> can you post the test results with the units and ranges. You

just don't go on Armour if you have low cortisol levels Dr.'s don't

look for Adrenal Fatigue when testing your ether above range or below

it no in between. If your moring cortisol test was below 15 you need

to address this before starting Armour and you just don't start on

armour and stay on this low dose for 20 months WTF is with that. Go

to this site and read it front to back and back to front.

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> Also check out the Forums.

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/community/viewforum.php?f=5

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/community/viewforum.php?f=2

>

> Compounded T is good as anything but still it's best to first

treat the Adrenls then the Thyroid and this test Testosterone.

Starting Testosterone first or with Thyroid can stress the Thyroid and

Cortisol levels.

> Phil

>

> fkw1122 <fkw1122@...> wrote:

> Hello All,

>

> After 3 weeks or whatever it's been..to refresh, on my bloodwork from

> the beginning of the month, my TSH was elevated. I asked about

> getting the T3 and T4 testing as well as the morning cortisol

> (although I had my morning cortisol done last year and it was normal).

> Anyways I finally heard back, and the Doctor wants me to be on Armour

> Thyroid for 20 months and get rechecked with the T3 and T4. They also

> are ok with me starting the Testosterone compound before then and

> re-testing at the same time.

>

> Anyone know anything about this medication? What about the difference

> between Androgel and a compounded mixture? She did specify

> bio-identical testosterone I believe (it's not in front of me)..

>

> Thanks!!

>

> ---------------------------------

> Don't be flakey. Get for Mobile and

> always stay connected to friends.

>

February 1, 2007

> >

> > Hi ,

> >

> > First, I'm a female...but, I do take Armour Thyroid. Phil is

right

> > about how Armour is dosed but it's okay to start the way your Doc

> > advised. You'll know soon enough if the dose needs adjusting and

you

> > can always give your GP a call. I would advise using ARMOUR

THYROID,

> > not a genric. Wow..what a difference it made for me! My dose

> > originally started at 60 mg. I have since tapered up to 90 in the

> > morning and 45 in the evening 3 time a week. It is suggested

Armour

> > be split into 2 daily doses because of the short half life of T3

in

> > it. I do fine on the once a day and split doses 3 days though.

It's a

> >

>

February 5, 2007

Vickie, I don't think your message got through on your last post in

this subject.

Good news, my PCP (Primary Care Physician) is having me get my TSH and

T4 as well as morning and afternoon cortisol tested!! He doesn't

think I should just go on medication from just one elevated test.

I'll let you all know...

Thanks again!!

> > >

> > > Hi ,

> > >

> > > First, I'm a female...but, I do take Armour Thyroid. Phil is

> right

> > > about how Armour is dosed but it's okay to start the way your Doc

> > > advised. You'll know soon enough if the dose needs adjusting and

> you

> > > can always give your GP a call. I would advise using ARMOUR

> THYROID,

> > > not a genric. Wow..what a difference it made for me! My dose

> > > originally started at 60 mg. I have since tapered up to 90 in the

> > > morning and 45 in the evening 3 time a week. It is suggested

> Armour

> > > be split into 2 daily doses because of the short half life of T3

> in

> > > it. I do fine on the once a day and split doses 3 days though.

> It's a

> > >

> >

>

February 5, 2007

do a TSH, Free T3 and Free T4 and a morning Cortisol test. This is just

a start.

Phil

fkw1122 <fkw1122@...> wrote:

Vickie, I don't think your message got through on your last post in

this subject.

Good news, my PCP (Primary Care Physician) is having me get my TSH and

T4 as well as morning and afternoon cortisol tested!! He doesn't

think I should just go on medication from just one elevated test.

I'll let you all know...

Thanks again!!

> > >

> > > Hi ,

> > >

> > > First, I'm a female...but, I do take Armour Thyroid. Phil is

> right

> > > about how Armour is dosed but it's okay to start the way your Doc

> > > advised. You'll know soon enough if the dose needs adjusting and

> you

> > > can always give your GP a call. I would advise using ARMOUR

> THYROID,

> > > not a genric. Wow..what a difference it made for me! My dose

> > > originally started at 60 mg. I have since tapered up to 90 in the

> > > morning and 45 in the evening 3 time a week. It is suggested

> Armour

> > > be split into 2 daily doses because of the short half life of T3

> in

> > > it. I do fine on the once a day and split doses 3 days though.

> It's a

> > >

> >

>

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February 5, 2007

Better make sure it's the free t4 and free t3 as well. PLain old t4

means diddly, especially if you have high estrogen. I would also add

thyroid antibodies. Remember, the TSH range was change in 2003 by the

AACE; however, labs do not reflect the new range, or at best, they

will have a noted disclaimer. The new range is .3 - 3.04. Anything

over 2.0 should be thoroughly examined and monitored. Free t4 should

be at LEAST mid range, but top 1/4 is best. Free t3 should be at LEAST

over the midrange, but the very top of the range is best.

> Vickie, I don't think your message got through on your last post in

> this subject.

>

> Good news, my PCP (Primary Care Physician) is having me get my TSH and

> T4 as well as morning and afternoon cortisol tested!! He doesn't

> think I should just go on medication from just one elevated test.

>

> I'll let you all know...

>

> Thanks again!!

>

> > > >

> > > > Hi ,

> > > >

> > > > First, I'm a female...but, I do take Armour Thyroid. Phil is

> > right

> > > > about how Armour is dosed but it's okay to start the way your Doc

> > > > advised. You'll know soon enough if the dose needs adjusting and

> > you

> > > > can always give your GP a call. I would advise using ARMOUR

> > THYROID,

> > > > not a genric. Wow..what a difference it made for me! My dose

> > > > originally started at 60 mg. I have since tapered up to 90 in the

> > > > morning and 45 in the evening 3 time a week. It is suggested

> > Armour

> > > > be split into 2 daily doses because of the short half life of T3

> > in

> > > > it. I do fine on the once a day and split doses 3 days though.

> > It's a

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

February 5, 2007

Phil, I'm getting those, plus the afternoon cortisol test. My Doctor

said the T3 won't tell him anything (although I could always check the

box on the bloodwork order).

Thanks

> > > >

> > > > Hi ,

> > > >

> > > > First, I'm a female...but, I do take Armour Thyroid. Phil is

> > right

> > > > about how Armour is dosed but it's okay to start the way your Doc

> > > > advised. You'll know soon enough if the dose needs adjusting and

> > you

> > > > can always give your GP a call. I would advise using ARMOUR

> > THYROID,

> > > > not a genric. Wow..what a difference it made for me! My dose

> > > > originally started at 60 mg. I have since tapered up to 90 in the

> > > > morning and 45 in the evening 3 time a week. It is suggested

> > Armour

> > > > be split into 2 daily doses because of the short half life of T3

> > in

> > > > it. I do fine on the once a day and split doses 3 days though.

> > It's a

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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> > > >

> > > > Hi ,

> > > >

> > > > First, I'm a female...but, I do take Armour Thyroid. Phil is

> > right

> > > > about how Armour is dosed but it's okay to start the way your

Doc

> > > > advised. You'll know soon enough if the dose needs adjusting

and

> > you

> > > > can always give your GP a call. I would advise using ARMOUR

> > THYROID,

> > > > not a genric. Wow..what a difference it made for me! My dose

> > > > originally started at 60 mg. I have since tapered up to 90 in

the

> > > > morning and 45 in the evening 3 time a week. It is suggested

> > Armour

> > > > be split into 2 daily doses because of the short half life of

T3

> > in

> > > > it. I do fine on the once a day and split doses 3 days

though.

> > It's a

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 24, 2007

Hello Lynn ~

I am so glad to hear you slept so well last night ! ! I bet you didnt want to move this am, I bet that felt so good ! !

Yeah, I cant wait to see what your thyroid is doing.

I hope it is continueing to improve ! Maybe the dose you are on it tooo much and that is why you arent sleeping, and now you can lower it some . Wouldnt that be nice?

My TSH at the hospital sunday was 7.09, alittle high...the saliva TSH was in the normal range. Strange.........There are some things that are bothering me that I havent really spoken about. I had a CEA test back in Dec or Jan, and it was elevated...... it is a cancer marker. I also have a high testosterone, and low dhea. It is all so very confusing, but I think things are pointing to pitutary more or ovary. I didnt understand the other 2 female hormones, what they meant. I dont know why my night cortisol would be so high..........weird ! I am so tired, 24/7, along with many of the other symptoms. When I worked in ob/gyn, I did not learn anything about the hormones besides, estrogen makes cancer grow 10 times faster than it would if you were not on it. So I vowed to never take it.

Anyway......It is a huge puzzel ! I cant do any of the tests where you have to be off of meds right now. So, everything is gonna take longer. Oh well........there are reasons for everything........

Yes, the medical field is " less than" for sure ! ! Sweet dreams Lynn ~ Love Dede Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com.

July 24, 2007

Hi Dede,

I am so sorry about the CEA test. Did you do further testing? What did your doctors think? I have heard the same about estrogen, I was taking it for a while when I was on the Lupron shot and then read up on the drug and stopped ASAP!!

I am just so sad that you are so sick. I don't want you to suffer!

I hope you have sweet dreams too. Rest your heart.

Love, Lynn

Re: Thyroid

Hello Lynn ~

I am so glad to hear you slept so well last night ! ! I bet you didnt want to move this am, I bet that felt so good ! !

Yeah, I cant wait to see what your thyroid is doing.

I hope it is continueing to improve ! Maybe the dose you are on it tooo much and that is why you arent sleeping, and now you can lower it some . Wouldnt that be nice?

My TSH at the hospital sunday was 7.09, alittle high...the saliva TSH was in the normal range. Strange..... ....There are some things that are bothering me that I havent really spoken about. I had a CEA test back in Dec or Jan, and it was elevated.... .. it is a cancer marker. I also have a high testosterone, and low dhea. It is all so very confusing, but I think things are pointing to pitutary more or ovary. I didnt understand the other 2 female hormones, what they meant. I dont know why my night cortisol would be so high........ ..weird ! I am so tired, 24/7, along with many of the other symptoms. When I worked in ob/gyn, I did not learn anything about the hormones besides, estrogen makes cancer grow 10 times faster than it would if you were not on it. So I vowed to never take it.

Anyway...... It is a huge puzzel ! I cant do any of the tests where you have to be off of meds right now. So, everything is gonna take longer. Oh well........ there are reasons for everything.. ......

Yes, the medical field is " less than" for sure ! ! Sweet dreams Lynn ~ Love Dede

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July 25, 2007

Hey Lynn ~

No, no further testing, but I also had that colonoscopy done and had that cancerous adenoma removed, so I am hoping it was that.....my doc never discussed it with me......I had so much going on back then and all these bad tests and the doc's just passing me back and forth saying you are complicated, and send me to the next doc. That is why I just stopped going. Had to take a break.

I just wonder if my body is in " crazy mode" from these implants, and I just need to get them out then do further testing...........I hope my heart gets strong enough in the near future. I know it will be at least 3 months. I will be a good girl so it will heal well. I am so tired, gonna catch some zzzz's

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August 19, 2008

I have bc. For the last month I have had a sore throat. It is not real sore. I

wonder if it is my thyroid. I wonder if I have cancer in my thyroid. I feel

pretty good. I have been on budwig for 3 months. Anyone had any experience.

Thanks, Robyn

August 19, 2008

Generally, when your thyroid is painful, you will know it. It doesn't

feel like a sore throat at all. At least, that was my experience.

ar

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:20:40 -0700 (PDT), " robyn howell "

<robynehowell@...> said:

> I have bc. For the last month I have had a sore throat. It is not real

> sore. I wonder if it is my thyroid. I wonder if I have cancer in my

> thyroid. I feel pretty good. I have been on budwig for 3 months. Anyone

> had any experience.

> Thanks, Robyn

--

Arlyn Grant

arlynsg@...

August 20, 2008

I actually got a goiter and severe hypothyroid as a 24 year-old man

from eating too many goitrogen foods (Namely spinach for me). I was

doing it cuz it was easy and I thought healthy and handy on the run.

It was horrible, I dropped down to 92 body temps in the morning with

pneumonia symptoms, I had pre-mature arthritis, water collecting in

my back pulling my shoulder joints apart, constipation, impotency,

etc.

It took me forever to find out what was wrong i.e. internet, (and my

PCP was a dumbshit) my grandma and great grandpa has thyroid problems

too (and guess what, they ate almost all vegetables too!).

Long story short, I switched to foods with iodide (that's what your

thyroid really uses), and chugging milk with iodized salt made my

goiter go away in 4 days with leftover adrenal fatigue which took me

another week in bed to get over. All my symptoms more or less (not

really remembering what normal feels after all that), dissappeared in

2 months.

A lot of people lived with hypothyroid for decades (including my

grandma), but never got cancer.

-

" Arlyn Grant " <arlynsg@...> wrote:

>Generally, when your thyroid is painful, you will know it. It

doesn't feel like a sore throat at all. At least, that was my experience.

>

> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 " robyn howell " said:

> > I have bc. For the last month I have had a sore throat. It is

not real sore. I wonder if it is my thyroid. I wonder if I have cancer in my

thyroid. I feel pretty good. I have been on budwig for 3 months. Anyone had any

experience.

August 21, 2008

I am curious, i thought HYPERthyroid was the one that gave goiter. So, i

presume both hyper and hypo give goiter?

Can someone please clarify this for me? Thanks

August 21, 2008

Hi ,

Yes, both hypo and hyper can develop a goiter. Causes are different.

And a goiter is not typical, either.

ar

On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:42:35 -0700 (PDT), " melly banagale "

<@...> said:

> I am curious, i thought HYPERthyroid was the one that gave goiter. So, i

> presume both hyper and hypo give goiter?

>

> Can someone please clarify this for me? Thanks

>

> ------------------------------------

>

November 11, 2009

> what does enzymes have to do with normal thyroid function

I don't know. But I corrected thyroid issues here with selenium, iodine, and

tyrosine.

Dana

February 18, 2010

I've been on thyroid meds long before I was diagnosed and started vitamin D

about 3 years ago. I'm currently on Simponi and have thus far been

disappointed with the results. The p is still bad and not a lot of help

with the PA. Remicade was the best help for me but had 2 major infections

and had to quit.

October 6, 2010

I'd heard radishes are good for thyroid? I like to saute them til tender and

brown.

October 7, 2010

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> I'd heard radishes are good for thyroid?

Radishes are in the brassica family, which are known to be goitrogenic. So, it

doesn't make sense that radishes would be good for the thyroid.

October 28, 2010

It is back on the shelves, but either the doctors aren't aware of it, ot

they have a deal going with the makers of Synthroid. I won't take anything

but Armour.

If you are hypo thyroid as I am, you need to have your iodine level checked

with this new doctor. I don't think insurance covers the test. I paid for

mine out of pocket and I am so glad I did. I was very low in iodine as

there just aren't many places to get it in the American diet. It is in

iodized salt, but you would have to eaqt seventeen teaspoons of iodized salt

a day to get enough -- and we know what that could do to a person's blood

pressure!

You can get it from sea vegetables such as kelp, but it is hard to switch

over and be diligent about that. Kelp granules make a good substitute for

salt to sprinkle over food, and it takes on 1/8 of a tsp. a day to get a

daily allownace, but if you are low, you need to get the levels back up.

The way I took the test was this: The doctor gave me four Iodoral tablets to

take all at once. Then I collected urine for a specified amount of time,

and how ever much iodine came out in the urine determines if you are

deficient or not. I was very deficient. I began taking Iodoral tablets at

once.

You have to work up on them depending on how deficient you are. I took one

tablet the first week in the morning. The nest week one in AM and one in

Pm. The next week I took two in the AM and one in the PM, and then the next

week I took two in the morning at two in the PM. I stayed like that for a

while, and now I am on two tablets a day for maintenance.

I cannot tell you enough how much this has helped me! First, after being on

the full dose a while, my thyroid hormone had to be adjusted downward. I

was able to cut the amount I need by half!

Next, I have had fibrocystic breast disease (you know they turn everything

into a disease) since I was in my early twenties. I had to go in all the

time and have fluid filled cysts drained. Painful! Then I started having

bad mammograms beginning at twenty seven and had my first biopsy at twenty

seven. In my forties, I had to have three biopsies with an adenoma removed

from under my arm (right where one applies aluminum-containing

antiperspirant), and I had to have dysplastic cells removed form deep inside

my breast (excruciatingly painful --torturous!).

Then I began taking the Iodoral. I also threw away the aluminum

antiperspirant and have only used natural deodorant I buy at Whole Foods. I

also gave up canned food and using aluminum foil in addition to throwing out

all the non-stick, coated pans we have. We use stainless steel pans for

cooking (I know there are better ones, but we can't afford them).

The fiborcystic breast condition went away. My mammograms were perfectly

normal. Then in the summer of 09, I got busy, ran out of Iodoral, and was

off it for a few months. My mammogram came back suspicious. The

radiologist (a wonderful woman) asked me what I had changed. I told her I

had run out of my iodine supplement and forgot to re-order. She told me to

get back on it ASAP and come back in six months. I did so. Six months

later, the suspicious area in my breast had disappeared! I will NEVER again

allowmyself to run out of Iodoral.

We all need enough to stay healthy:

It is known to be essential in maintaining the function of the thyroid and

parathyroid glands in humans . It is also essential to the production of

thyroxine, a hormone associated with the thyroid gland and proper thyroid

functioning. Iodine also promotes general growth and development within the

body as well as aiding in metabolism. Because of its role in the metabolism,

the symptoms of an iodine deficiency can be far reaching. Even though it is

so important to proper functioning of the human organism, iodine deficiency

is not uncommon. Severe iodine deficiency often occurs in individuals who

have thyroid disease.

Deficiency may include extreme fatigue, slowing of both physical and mental

processes, weight gain, facial puffiness, constipation and lethargy. Babies

born to iodine deficient moms may be lethargic and difficult to feed. If

they are left untreated it is likely that they will develop cretinism and

end up sufffering poor overall growth and mental retardation.

The government used to enrich foods like bread with iodine, and then they

stopped. Now the only places are salt (too much needed to receive benefit),

sea vegetables (which most are unlikely to eat), and shell fish, which

contains mercury.

I believe iodine is vital to breast health and also helps our bodies fight

off certain cancers such as breast cancer. It has in my case. You can buy

Iodoral directly on-line, but work with a doctor to find out how deficient

you are and get the right dose. You can get too much and that isn't good

either.

Just my two cents.

Don't let doctors tell you Armour is not available. It is and you need to

demand it.

October 28, 2010

Dad

Have mom read this. I thought interesting.

Tammy

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