Re: Lypase for fat burning

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Consuming lypase will not result in weight loss since it will likely not survive

it's trip through the stomach to end up in your blood stream. Plus fat burning

is a highly regulated process in the body and you can make all the lypase you

need to burn fat. Taking a supplement would at best, create imbalance in this

system. It most likely would just increase your digestion efficiency of the fat

you eat--which is already almost 100% normally.

Fat burning is a very complex topic. Science does not provide a clear answer

either--despite what many lab-coated experts may say.

Here is a brief summary of what we know:

1. If your caloric intake is below your caloric need, your body will burn fat

and muscle to make up the difference.

2. #1 is " starvation " as far as your body is concerned so it activates survival

genes, lowers your metabolism, including your body temperature.

3. In numerous controlled studies, caloric deficit progresses in a predictable

fashion: 1)Participants become food obsessed and experience numerous cravings.

2) A large portion of study participants drop out because of the stress. 3)When

the studies end, participants will regain all the weight they lost, plus some

extra. The gained weight will be disproportionately fat. They end up at a higher

weight with a higher percent body fat.

Does #3 sound familiar? It should, it's commonly referred to as " yo-yo dieting " .

Thus several cycles of " dieting " will leave you heavier than when you started,

with a higher % body fat than when you started.

The most common advise for " burning fat " is to " eat less " and " do more " . The

problem with this advice is that no one can do it since it's only effective when

you put the body in a state it perceives as starvation. Few people posses the

" discipline " required to live like this long term. Why do you think " discipline "

is such a commonly discussed topic in this regard?

Taking drugs/supplements that " raise metabolism " are really just exercise in a

pill. Exercise is cheaper and has fewer side effects. Either exercise or pills

simply increase the caloric requirement side of the equation.

Another type of study which helps give us an important clue is the over feeding

study. In these studies people are forced to eat high calorie diets (10,000

kcal/day) for months at a time. What's interesting about these studies is that

people don't become obese. They do gain weight, but some people only gain

5-10lbs after months of over eating. And just like the starvation studies above,

when the study ends, the participants all return to their starting weights, OR

LOWER!

So under eatings leads to rebound weight gain and over eating leads to rebound

weight loss. What appears to be happening is that the body has a weight set

point that it vigorously defends. This is why there are " no gainers " that can

eat all they want and not gain weight and why there are obese people that eat

very little, yet remain obese.

How is all this possible you may ask?

More recent research is pointing at some interesting concepts. People appear to

have an " adipostat " or fat regulating feedback mechanism. The hormone leptin

appears to be a critical part of the adipostat. Leptin is produced by fat cells.

The more fat you have the more leptin you should have normally. Leptin decreases

appetite and increases metabolism. Leptin is " sensed " by the hypothalamus gland.

One possible mechanism for the cause of obesity appears to be " leptin

resistance " . Obese people normally have high leptin levels because they have

lots of fat. Yet their hypothalmus appears to not recognize the leptin. This

topic is currently being studied and we will know a lot more in the next 10

years.

So there appears to be two basic ways to " burn fat " . The first is " eat less, do

more " which is trying to force your weight below it's set point. The second is

" eat more, do less " which is trying to force your weight above your set point.

Once your weight is above your set point, the body will lower the set point by

raising metabolism and body temperature which burns fat.

Body temperature is the best way to tell where you are at. If your 1-2 deg.

below 98.6 you will have a very difficult time losing weight. It's also possible

your body temp is low because of other causes, like hypothyroid.

Although I'm convinced that many people diagnosed with hypothyroid have

perfectly healthy thyroids that are functioning as they should. That is, they

are lowering body temperature in response to under eating or over exercising.

When these people are treated for hypothyroid, they are actually forcing their

thyroid function up when the body wants it down. This cannot be good.

The best way to tell why your body temp is low is to try overfeeding for up to 6

mo. If your body temp doesn't go up (it usually does), then you likely have some

underlying condition like hypothyroid. After all I've read, I would never start

treating hypothyroid with hormones, until I tried over feeding for 6 mo. to see

if that corrects the problem.

What you eat also appears to have a huge impact on your metabolism and thus body

temp. Fructose and omega-6 appear to be the two worst things for your

metabolism. Omega-6 is well recognized in the animal feeding world as a retarder

of metabolism. Gluten intolerance may also damage the thyroid and lead to

hypothyroid. So you want to avoid gluten or at least make sure you are eating

properly soured recipes containing gluten.

If you want to try over feeding I would suggest eating only real food. No sugar

(fructose) and avoid omega-6 as much as is practical. I wouldn't worry about

high/low carb/fat, just make sure you are getting enough fat for your fat

soluble vitamins (A/D/K). Good carb sources are brown rice, white potatoes and

sweet potatoes. Be sure to eat fat, protein and carbs at every meal. Eat as much

as you need to feel full, but not sick about it. If you need snacks or more than

3 meals per day, you're not eating enough during meals-try eating more.

Eventually your weight should get above your set point and your body will

respond by raising your metabolism and body temp and you should start to loose

weight.

If your body temp is already normal and you want to lose weight, I would try

adding a small amount of exercise (20min, 3x/wk) and eating slightly less carbs,

but don't try a low carb diet or over exercising.

Watch your body temp like a hawk, if it starts to go down, try eating more food.

Anything that makes your body temp go down is dangerous and should be

avoided--your body is trying to tell you something when it lowers the temp.

Cheers,

--- In , Parashis <artpages@...>

wrote:

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> Does anyone know the best way to burn fat? I know I'm not. Is a supplement

like lypase the answere?

>

> Which is the best brand?

>

> Isn't it from the pancreas? Would taking Dr. Ron's glandulars be best?

>

> What about probiotics? Are they supposed to help? I just bought Dr. Ron's

probiotics, will that help?

>

> I sprinkle NOW brand Pancreatin on my meat and eggs. It says it has Lypase in

in but I still have floating stools, a sign, I was told, that fat was not being

broken down and being utilized for energy.

>

> Any help? From someone not selling something?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't have any answers to those questions, but I'll tell you what I've

observed in myself.

I actually went to the MD and had a sonogram, found out I have a fatty liver.

Probably from all that drinkin', and undoubtedly from keeping on eating the same

amount even after middle age cut my food requirements way down.

I had the floatin' poop and all that. Sometimes it was grey, which sounds like

maybe pancreas problems -- ? That usually happened when I got really sick, I

think from eating too much [fat?] for too many days in a row.

Maybe I finally got it through my head that I just cannot eat like I used to --

not the fatty foods, and just not nearly the quantity. So I have been eating

less -- paying close attention to my body telling me that's enough food -- and

making an effort to limit the fat when it's not an integral part of the food.

Like I don't ADD any fat to anything, and I remove it when possible (but not

from barbecued ribs! =^D

So now I got the sinkin' poop, and I've lost 10 lbs or so. That 10 lbs made a

HUGE difference in the way I look and feel. I could stand to lose another 20,

but this is so much better.

What kinds of things are going on with you?

Joy

--- In , Parashis <artpages@...>

wrote:

>

> Does anyone know the best way to burn fat? I know I'm not. Is a supplement

like lypase the answere?

>

> Which is the best brand?

>

> Isn't it from the pancreas? Would taking Dr. Ron's glandulars be best?

>

> What about probiotics? Are they supposed to help? I just bought Dr. Ron's

probiotics, will that help?

>

> I sprinkle NOW brand Pancreatin on my meat and eggs. It says it has Lypase in

in but I still have floating stools, a sign, I was told, that fat was not being

broken down and being utilized for energy.

>

> Any help? From someone not selling something?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Why is peanut butter a " sin " ? Peanuts are really good food for most people. --

as long as they're grown right, without all the chemicals, and as long as your

peanut butter isn't made of shortening and added sugar and all that crap. All

that's needed to make peanut butter is peanuts, ground up.

--- In , Parashis <artpages@...>

wrote:

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> What a great answer! Thank you so much. I see much of what I do is correct but

my biggest sin is peanut butter so that is my major goal = cut it out!!!!!

>

>

>

> Re: Lypase for fat burning

> >

> >Consuming lypase will not result in weight loss since it will likely not

survive it's trip through the stomach to end up in your blood stream. Plus fat

burning is a highly regulated process in the body and you can make all the

lypase you need to burn fat. Taking a supplement would at best, create imbalance

in this system. It most likely would just increase your digestion efficiency o

[Guest guest]

--- In , Parashis <artpages@...>

wrote:

>

> Does anyone know the best way to burn fat? I know I'm not. Is a supplement

like lypase the answere?

I went to the dr & asked about a lipase supplement - I figured that I would need

to take a high dose supp only available through dr to determine if this was what

I needed. All the otc ones (in New zealand any way) have a pathetic amount of

lipase in them. The dr refused and told me that a low fat diet especially low in

sat. fat was the answer to my problem. A stool sample was sent off to determine

fat digestion - the lab report came back & they hadn't even tested for fat so

that was a waste of time.

My new dr wanted to work on the liver function before resorting to enzymes so I

took a mixed herbal remedy which I did not continue with (cost, apathy,

pregnancy....). I did however take a milk thistle capsule everyday & now a year

later no floating stool - eating the same high sat. fat diet. I still think that

my liver function could be better (food intolerances) so I continue with the

milk thistle.

Cheers Jewel