Re: B12 - Has anyone seen this?

[Guest guest]

How much b12 he advises ?

W dniu 2011-11-02 18:11, pisze:

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> 'What we do in life, echoes through eternity.'

> MARCUS AURELIUS (121 - 180 A.D.)

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[Guest guest]

In the US, a Vitamin B12 deficiency is one of the conditions an MD needs rule

out before pronouncing a diagnosis of Multiple Sclerosis.

http://www.nationalmssociety.org/about-multiple-sclerosis/do-i-have-ms/other-con\

ditions-your-doctor-needs-to-rule-out/index.aspx

Dr ph Chandy, the doctor in the video, seems to be asserting that the

minimum acceptable level of B12 is variable with regard to individual patients.

In other words, what is a minimum acceptable level of B12 for one person may be

a " deficient " level of B12 in the blood of another. B12 deficeniency seems to

be a condition brought on by an inability to absorb vitamin B12 from food. The

injections bypass the digestive tract so malabsorption is no longer an issue.

The NHS set the standard for the minimal level of B12 in the blood based on

averages. That " standard " however does not take into account individual

differences. (Your minimum B12 requirement might be different than my minimum

B12 requirement.)

B12 injections are relatively inexpensive, are easy to administer, and pose very

few (if any) health risks.

Is modern medicine focused on helping individual patients or is it focused on

pharmaceutical companies making a profit?

KC

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VERY interesting indeed.

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> 'What we do in life, echoes through eternity.'

> MARCUS AURELIUS (121 - 180 A.D.)

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[Guest guest]

if you are concerned about your b-12 levels you can order this blood test

yourself and

get the results mailed back to you, no doctor.

http://www.lef.org/Vitamins-Supplements/ItemLC000810/Vitamin-B12-and-Folate-Bloo\

d-Test.html

[Guest guest]

good post rachael, i have monthly b12 and was weekly

 

perhaps another avenue for us msers to pursue but wont be a cure, lady in the

video good for her

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To: MSCured <mscured >

Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2011, 17:11

Subject: B12 - Has anyone seen this?

 

This struck me as VERY

interesting indeed.

'What we do in life, echoes through eternity.'

MARCUS AURELIUS (121 - 180 A.D.)

[Guest guest]

Agreed .As I think we all know, it's different for everyone and we each

must find OUR way through the dense forest of symptoms, causes and healing

catalysts.Good to look into and see if we individually have a prob with our own

B12 levels.

'What we do in life, echoes through eternity.'

MARCUS AURELIUS (121 - 180 A.D.)

To: mscured

From: peter.nicholls@...

Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:55:40 +0000

Subject: Re: B12 - Has anyone seen this?

good post rachael, i have monthly b12 and was weekly

perhaps another avenue for us msers to pursue but wont be a cure, lady in the

video good for her

[Guest guest]

all us msers are diferent, i take 3mg ldn in the morning, plus doc wants me on:

baclofen 10mg 3 x a day

clonazepam .5mg 3 x night

pregabalin 50mg 2 x a day

fed up with the meds and gradually getting off them [not the ldn, get scrip from

my doc and then from dicksons]

 

also researched Resveratrol, you know this, this supplement is promoted by

dicksons chemist and on their www

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To: MSCured <mscured >

Sent: Thursday, 3 November 2011, 10:01

Subject: RE: B12 - Has anyone seen this?

 

Agreed .As I think we all know, it's different for everyone and we each

must find OUR way through the dense forest of symptoms, causes and healing

catalysts.Good to look into and see if we individually have a prob with our own

B12 levels.

'What we do in life, echoes through eternity.'

MARCUS AURELIUS (121 - 180 A.D.)

To: mscured

From: peter.nicholls@...

Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:55:40 +0000

Subject: Re: B12 - Has anyone seen this?

good post rachael, i have monthly b12 and was weekly

perhaps another avenue for us msers to pursue but wont be a cure, lady in the

video good for her

[Guest guest]

Hi my name is harj and i am 34. I like the news about the B12 helpimg with the

ms. Please can you let me how i can get in contact with DR .

 

thank you

harj

mob 07870464012

To: mscured

Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2011, 20:27

Subject: Re: B12 - Has anyone seen this?

 

How much b12 he advises ?

W dniu 2011-11-02 18:11, pisze:

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> <

This struck

> me as VERY interesting indeed.

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> 'What we do in life, echoes through eternity.'

> MARCUS AURELIUS (121 - 180 A.D.)

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[Guest guest]

I just began b complex injections from doc. Will let you know. Lily

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

LDN is supposed to be taken in the evening, just before bed for maximum effect.

http://www.lowdosenaltrexone.org/index.htm#How_does_LDN_work_ scroll down the

page a bit.

A site on LDN: http://www.lowdosenaltrexone.org/ldn_and_ms.htm

Some discussion about LDN:

http://ccsvi-ms.ning.com/profiles/blogs/ldn-for-ms?id=5297960%3ABlogPost%3A10866\

6 & page=3#comments

My wife has been taking it for some time at 4.5 mg. It seems to help people in

different ways. For her, I think she sleeps more soundly and generally feels a

bit better. We get it from Gideon Drugs in NY, NY. .

Jorj

www.jbdigitalcinema.com

Re: B12 - Has anyone seen this?

good post rachael, i have monthly b12 and was weekly

perhaps another avenue for us msers to pursue but wont be a cure, lady in the

video good for her

[Guest guest]

jorji hi, leading doc in uk with regard to ldn and pharmacist both say that

morning dose is ok

 

i cannot take at night due to severe sleep deprevation

 

best/peter

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To: mscured

Sent: Thursday, 3 November 2011, 17:23

Subject: Re: B12 - Has anyone seen this?

 

Hi ,

LDN is supposed to be taken in the evening, just before bed for maximum effect.

http://www.lowdosenaltrexone.org/index.htm#How_does_LDN_work_ scroll down the

page a bit.

A site on LDN: http://www.lowdosenaltrexone.org/ldn_and_ms.htm

Some discussion about LDN:

http://ccsvi-ms.ning.com/profiles/blogs/ldn-for-ms?id=5297960%3ABlogPost%3A10866\

6 & page=3#comments

My wife has been taking it for some time at 4.5 mg. It seems to help people in

different ways. For her, I think she sleeps more soundly and generally feels a

bit better. We get it from Gideon Drugs in NY, NY. .

Jorj

www.jbdigitalcinema.com

Re: B12 - Has anyone seen this?

good post rachael, i have monthly b12 and was weekly

perhaps another avenue for us msers to pursue but wont be a cure, lady in the

video good for her

[Guest guest]

I think anyone getting b-12 should probably get the methylcobalamin version

which

seems to be the version of b-12 that is active for nerves and the brain.

Alot of the

positive research has been done using this methyl version versus the common

cyanocobalamin version.

[Guest guest]

All, what about hydroxycobalamin? I know methyl is as of know the superior

type but there are 4 types of B12 and they all have purposes. The methyl of

course does not require methylation anymore. Thoughts?

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Re: B12 - Has anyone seen this?

I think anyone getting b-12 should probably get the methylcobalamin version

which

seems to be the version of b-12 that is active for nerves and the brain.

Alot of the

positive research has been done using this methyl version versus the common

cyanocobalamin version.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Just a note on Reservatrol - for some people it causes numbness and pain in the

arms, legs hands etc etc. - just do a google to check this.

....In my wife's case this is sooo true. Over the last several years we have

tried allsorts of forms of reservatrol from pills to dried form, different

brands, superior forms etc etc and each time it has resulted in either her foot

or hand going numb for a number of days/weeks.

Reservatrol is meant to be a superior anti-oxidant but it may not suit all, so

just be careful. But if you don't try you won't know!

Cheers,

Pinda

PS For those who do drink alcohol (or don't) Red wine has a small amount of

Reservatrol in it, and with this minuscule amount my wife does not have any

problems. On the contrary, a couple of glass's of Cabnernet Sauvigon every other

evening appears to be the only thing that lessens the spasms the next day.

>

> all us msers are diferent, i take 3mg ldn in the morning, plus doc wants me

on:

> baclofen 10mg 3 x a day

> clonazepam .5mg 3 x night

> pregabalin 50mg 2 x a day

> fed up with the meds and gradually getting off them [not the ldn, get scrip

from my doc and then from dicksons]

>  

> also researched Resveratrol, you know this, this supplement is promoted by

dicksons chemist and on their www

[Guest guest]

dear pinda, thanks your reply, reservatrol or red wine, em, no choice

best/peter

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To: mscured

Sent: Friday, 4 November 2011, 18:42

Subject: Re: B12 - Has anyone seen this?

 

Hi,

Just a note on Reservatrol - for some people it causes numbness and pain in the

arms, legs hands etc etc. - just do a google to check this.

....In my wife's case this is sooo true. Over the last several years we have

tried allsorts of forms of reservatrol from pills to dried form, different

brands, superior forms etc etc and each time it has resulted in either her foot

or hand going numb for a number of days/weeks.

Reservatrol is meant to be a superior anti-oxidant but it may not suit all, so

just be careful. But if you don't try you won't know!

Cheers,

Pinda

PS For those who do drink alcohol (or don't) Red wine has a small amount of

Reservatrol in it, and with this minuscule amount my wife does not have any

problems. On the contrary, a couple of glass's of Cabnernet Sauvigon every other

evening appears to be the only thing that lessens the spasms the next day.

>

> all us msers are diferent, i take 3mg ldn in the morning, plus doc wants me

on:

> baclofen 10mg 3 x a day

> clonazepam .5mg 3 x night

> pregabalin 50mg 2 x a day

> fed up with the meds and gradually getting off them [not the ldn, get scrip

from my doc and then from dicksons]

>  

> also researched Resveratrol, you know this, this supplement is promoted by

dicksons chemist and on their www

[Guest guest]

Maybe it is not deficiency, maybe it is pharmacological action of b12

given in larger doses.

W dniu 2011-11-05 11:26, Nicholls pisze:

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> dear pinda, thanks your reply, reservatrol or red wine, em, no choice

> best/peter

>

> ________________________________

> From: Pinda <nagra101@... <mailto:nagra101%40hotmail.com>>

> To: mscured <mailto:mscured%40yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Friday, 4 November 2011, 18:42

> Subject: Re: B12 - Has anyone seen this?

>

>

> Hi,

>

> Just a note on Reservatrol - for some people it causes numbness and

> pain in the arms, legs hands etc etc. - just do a google to check this.

>

> ...In my wife's case this is sooo true. Over the last several years we

> have tried allsorts of forms of reservatrol from pills to dried form,

> different brands, superior forms etc etc and each time it has resulted

> in either her foot or hand going numb for a number of days/weeks.

>

> Reservatrol is meant to be a superior anti-oxidant but it may not suit

> all, so just be careful. But if you don't try you won't know!

>

> Cheers,

>

> Pinda

> PS For those who do drink alcohol (or don't) Red wine has a small

> amount of Reservatrol in it, and with this minuscule amount my wife

> does not have any problems. On the contrary, a couple of glass's of

> Cabnernet Sauvigon every other evening appears to be the only thing

> that lessens the spasms the next day.

>

>

> >

> > all us msers are diferent, i take 3mg ldn in the morning, plus doc

> wants me on:

> > baclofen 10mg 3 x a day

> > clonazepam .5mg 3 x night

> > pregabalin 50mg 2 x a day

> > fed up with the meds and gradually getting off them [not the ldn,

> get scrip from my doc and then from dicksons]

> > Â

> > also researched Resveratrol, you know this, this supplement is

> promoted by dicksons chemist and on their www

>

>

[Guest guest]

Given that I don't trust Western Medicine, I would be concerned as to what

fillers or other bad things might be in the B-12 shot?

[Guest guest]

aluminum.  Mine came with a warning about high quantities of it.  So I stopped

taking it. 

Subject: Re: B12 - Has anyone seen this?

To: mscured

Date: Tuesday, November 8, 2011, 12:03 AM

 

Given that I don't trust Western Medicine, I would be concerned as to what

fillers or other bad things might be in the B-12 shot?

[Guest guest]

If it's done by a doctor that is on our side rearding the 'alternative' route,

then I wouldn't be too worried.

'What we do in life, echoes through eternity.'

MARCUS AURELIUS (121 - 180 A.D.)

To: mscured

From: zoehealthy@...

Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 16:03:37 -0800

Subject: Re: B12 - Has anyone seen this?

Given that I don't trust Western Medicine, I would be concerned as to what

fillers or other bad things might be in the B-12 shot?