Guest guest Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 how much are you taking. I would go really slow for someone with MS. The iodoral tabs start at 12.5 mg. that may be way too much as it was for me. I would start out with liquid lugols and start out really small amounts and give it alot of time to ramp up. not the rapidly ramping schedule most docs. give. iodine is essential and experts say no one is getting enough if you arent supplementing with an iodine supplement. The thing I like about iodine is its broad spectrum abilities. detox heavy metals, hallides like bromine and fluoride and most importantly its ability to kill broad spectrum pathogens. emerging evidence is starting to show alot of MS patients actually have infections like lyme or mycoplasma etc. that is causing the MS. But these infections are hard to test for and find and doctors arent going to give you every drug known to kill every disease known. Enter iodine, rather than testing for an infection, finding it, then giving some specific drug to treat it. You just take the iodine and it finds and kills something in there is an infection. It really is backwards from conventional medicine. But is increasingly ideal in todays environment of silent infections. I tried it, went through a major flare up at just a few mg. either by detoxing or killing some pathogen that released toxins. I took it for about a year and didnt get past 4mg. Most iodine doctors recommend getting up to 50mg. or 100mg. if you are trying to heal something. Now I know I said I went through a flare, which some people might then decide to not try iodine at all then. But I am alot better off now having gone through it. The only reason I stopped taking it is because I wanted to figure out if it was detox or pathogen killing so I switched to MMS, and had more of a healing crisis and I am on the road to recovery and getting better over time. I am going to go back on the iodine to see if I can go farther than the 4mg. threshold I was having issues getting past. Apparently you may need 25mg. + to displace other hallides like fluoride and bromine etc. I would like to make it up to 50mg. to fully clean myself out. > ** > > > Is Iodine a good supplament for MS? Has anyone tryed it? Good results or > bad results, I sure would like some feedback. I am getting some for my self > ( not the MSer) and was wondering if my Wife (the MSer) could benifit from > it. > > M > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 I think you should really investigate more before you make a decision based on feedback from members of Internet groups. Everyone has different experiences with different supplements. What I thought I should take before, my new doctor said " no more " based on stool and blood samples. Functional Dr., Datis Kharazian, said that taking iodine is " like throwing gas onto a fire " for Hashimoto's thyroiditis. It could be good or bad for your wife. Get tested. > > Is Iodine a good supplament for MS? Has anyone tryed it? Good results or bad results, I sure would like some feedback. I am getting some for my self ( not the MSer) and was wondering if my Wife (the MSer) could benifit from it. > > M > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 I tried it for a while and didn't notice a difference but then it didn't make me worse. Worth a try.Janet To: mscured From: rusbus00@... Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 16:30:59 +0000 Subject: Iodine for MS? Is Iodine a good supplament for MS? Has anyone tryed it? Good results or bad results, I sure would like some feedback. I am getting some for my self ( not the MSer) and was wondering if my Wife (the MSer) could benifit from it. M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 Guessing which supplements would be helpful for me did not work. Finding an alternative doc who does muscle testing on me for each recommended supplement does work. He tests me for prescription meds as well. Saves me money in the long run and saves my body from expending energy to process the unnecessary. (I neither buy nor ingest what I do not need.) KC > > Is Iodine a good supplament for MS? Has anyone tryed it? Good results or bad results, I sure would like some feedback. I am getting some for my self ( not the MSer) and was wondering if my Wife (the MSer) could benifit from it. > > M > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 Thank you, Lugols sound positve. With both iodine and iodide for a fu;; inpact and detox. I have no taken any yet, but was concidering the 12.5 iodoral for myself. I am also considering eating Iodine in God's foods, ie. Kale ( with the added benefit of bulk fiber). I appreciate the feedback, it aids in discision making. M > > > ** > > > > > > Is Iodine a good supplament for MS? Has anyone tryed it? Good results or > > bad results, I sure would like some feedback. I am getting some for my self > > ( not the MSer) and was wondering if my Wife (the MSer) could benifit from > > it. > > > > M > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 Thank you for the input KC, I am not rather guessing here, I am weighting the options and enjoy both posative and negative responses equally. M > > > > Is Iodine a good supplament for MS? Has anyone tryed it? Good results or bad results, I sure would like some feedback. I am getting some for my self ( not the MSer) and was wondering if my Wife (the MSer) could benifit from it. > > > > M > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 , That is what I am doing, investigating. The input is mixed. As you say testing for " what " ? For low iodine, Hashimoto's, What else? I am looking for advice, I did ask " Is Iodine for MS " I didnt make a statement, yet posed a query for discussion. I do rather enjoy both sides of the discussion! How else can help be found. Did you have a negative experiance with Iodine, If so, I do want to hear it. It could help all that are reading here to see what is the experiance of another. Thank you for what your Dr told you. All things are being concidered, its not a fire to jump in or out of, its a problem to be solved. M > > > > Is Iodine a good supplament for MS? Has anyone tryed it? Good results or bad results, I sure would like some feedback. I am getting some for my self ( not the MSer) and was wondering if my Wife (the MSer) could benifit from it. > > > > M > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 Thank you Janet, Just plain and simple good feedback. It helps. Still fact finding and listening to others feedback, me jumping on a fire might burn. M > > > I tried it for a while and didn't notice a difference but then it didn't make me worse. Worth a try.Janet > To: mscured > From: rusbus00@... > Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 16:30:59 +0000 > Subject: Iodine for MS? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is Iodine a good supplament for MS? Has anyone tryed it? Good results or bad results, I sure would like some feedback. I am getting some for my self ( not the MSer) and was wondering if my Wife (the MSer) could benifit from it. > > > > M > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 The following is an article that speaks to iodine and MS, for what it is worth. Beverly http://orthomolecular.org/library/jom/1999/articles/1999-v14n03-p128.shtml > > Is Iodine a good supplament for MS? Has anyone tryed it? Good results or bad results, I sure would like some feedback. I am getting some for my self ( not the MSer) and was wondering if my Wife (the MSer) could benifit from it. > > M > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 Terry Wahls uses seaweed as an iodine source in her diet. Dried from asian shops is fine and not expensive. I had a bit into stewed livers and spicy sauces when I can remember---we haven't found a good seaweed salad recipe. > > > > Is Iodine a good supplament for MS? Has anyone tryed it? Good results or bad results, I sure would like some feedback. I am getting some for my self ( not the MSer) and was wondering if my Wife (the MSer) could benifit from it. > > > > M > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 Hi, I use a product called Modifilan as an iodine supplement. It is basically brown seaweed extract. It is also supposed to pull toxic metals from the body. For more information, visit http://tinyurl.com/288won Dudley Delany http://profiles.yahoo.com/dudley_delany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 Very interesting, What amout of benefit do you obseve while supplimenting with Iodine, in whatever form it is in for the MS condition? Note: I was feeding my wife Soft boiled eggs, and noticed a change in her almost immediately after 30 mins, then the benifit seemed to disappear after an hour of so. Therefore , I asked my self, self what is in eggs that aids in MS. The nutrients in the egg seem to help her. Selenium, fats, protien, iodine, and vitamins. by being attentive, i am watching for good things from what she craves also, like Kale or leafy greens, eggs, Kombucha, beer, ice cream, cottage cheese, etc., the foods that support and iodine rich diet. That makes me very interested in iodine, the proper use and what it may help. So if you have either a posative or negative story , I would enjoy either. M > > Hi, > > I use a product called Modifilan as an iodine supplement. It is basically brown seaweed extract. It is also supposed to pull toxic metals from the body. For more information, visit > > http://tinyurl.com/288won > > Dudley Delany > > http://profiles.yahoo.com/dudley_delany > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 Beverly, Hello! I really think the iodine helps relieve MS. Your point on dietary iodine is well recieved, God's food is always the best food. Money dictates the expence of food source iodine very expencive verses liquid iodine/ iodide as a suppliment. When the Kale grows, we will eat it all this year. Maybe, with some Nettle soup too (selenium). Thank you for the information. Negative or Positive, and testamony or information is useful. M > > > > > > Is Iodine a good supplament for MS? Has anyone tryed it? Good results or bad results, I sure would like some feedback. I am getting some for my self ( not the MSer) and was wondering if my Wife (the MSer) could benifit from it. > > > > > > M > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 I didn't have a negative exerience with iodine but after awhile with high doses of Modifilan and a raw food diet I developed hypothyroid symptoms. I got a functional doctor who had me do a stool sample and a blood test to examine my biological terrain. Raw cruciferous vagetables bind with iodine to make it unavailable for use. Instead of adding iodine it might be more prudent to check your diet. Iodine is a trace mineral and too much is as bad as not enough. Since my hypothyroid is actually autoimminue (Hashimoto's) my doctor is using an approach to eliminate inflammation and balance my immune system (Th1 and Th2). He has advised me not to take as many supplements. A key factor is vitamin D3. Green Pasture's Fermented CLO and Apex's Oxycell (transdermal) are others. He took me off of MSM (excess sulphur is not helpful in my quest) and food is more useful than supplements in his oinion. So far my feet aren't swelling and my hairloss has improved. It's only been a short time since my initial visit. I see hope in this experience. Good luck in whatever you decide to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 Thank you , A blood test and I believe a thyriod test should be advised even if not taking iodine. The test could level the playing field and show the path. Agian thank you. The deadly fluoride(our drinking water) and bromide(most breads) also should be considered. they can bind to your thyriod receptors and not be good for any thyriod condition esp,. Hashimoto's. The more I learn the more I see. Oh yea, knowledge is painful, only if we dont use it for the betterment of all! Thank you thrice over M > > I didn't have a negative exerience with iodine but after awhile with high doses of Modifilan and a raw food diet I developed hypothyroid symptoms. > > I got a functional doctor who had me do a stool sample and a blood test to examine my biological terrain. > > Raw cruciferous vagetables bind with iodine to make it unavailable for use. Instead of adding iodine it might be more prudent to check your diet. Iodine is a trace mineral and too much is as bad as not enough. Since my hypothyroid is actually autoimminue (Hashimoto's) my doctor is using an approach to eliminate inflammation and balance my immune system (Th1 and Th2). He has advised me not to take as many supplements. A key factor is vitamin D3. Green Pasture's Fermented CLO and Apex's Oxycell (transdermal) are others. He took me off of MSM (excess sulphur is not helpful in my quest) and food is more useful than supplements in his oinion. > > So far my feet aren't swelling and my hairloss has improved. It's only been a short time since my initial visit. I see hope in this experience. > > Good luck in whatever you decide to do. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 Hi M, I cannot tell what proportion of my good health comes from Modifilan, because I am taking many different supplements (not to mention LDN, colloidal silver, colloidal gold, etc.). See this site for more information: http://tinyurl.com/advice-to-msers Dudley Delany http://profiles.yahoo.com/dudley_delany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 My doctor took me off of all the foods you mentioned, also no grains, not even sourdough bread. They cause my body to be inflammed. Raw cruciferous veggies (kale, collard greens, and broccoli etc.) are off too. I have to cook them. This is his way of addressing iodine and goitrogens. The diet is similar to Terry Wahl's with a few changes, pastured meat (incl fat), some cooked and some raw vegetables (no nightshades), all things coconut, fermented veggies and water kefir, low glycemic fruits, EV olive oil. Never again can I drink kombucha or any green tea for that matter. It stimulates my immune syatem. No dairy incl. eggs. There are a few Celestial Seasonings herbal teas that I can have. I can also have shirataki brown yam noodles (with seaweed added) occasionally and some commercial brands of fermented food (The Ginger People fermented sushi ginger, Bubbies sauerkraut and pickles). I am supposed to eat throughout the day and never let myself go hungry. No fasting. Nothing sweet except Stevia. No honey, no sugar (even sucanat), no molasses, no maple syrup, no bananas, mangos, pineapple or watermelon, no chocolate, ice cream, cake or pie. I can't have alcohol, no beer or wine. Grains and alcohol morph into sugar. It's worth it to feel better but I can't eat what everyone else in my family eats. They don't have MS maybe some have Hashi. > > Very interesting, > > What amout of benefit do you obseve while supplimenting with Iodine, in whatever form it is in for the MS condition? > Note: I was feeding my wife Soft boiled eggs, and noticed a change in her almost immediately after 30 mins, then the benifit seemed to disappear after an hour of so. Therefore , I asked my self, self what is in eggs that aids in MS. The nutrients in the egg seem to help her. Selenium, fats, protien, iodine, and vitamins. > by being attentive, i am watching for good things from what she craves also, like Kale or leafy greens, eggs, Kombucha, beer, ice cream, cottage cheese, etc., the foods that support and iodine rich diet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 Yes, I got that idea from Dr. Wahls too, on using seaweed and kombu kelp for iodine. I've opted for the Maine sea vegetables for fear of the Asian stuff and the recent Japanese nuclear dump. > > Terry Wahls uses seaweed as an iodine source in her diet. Dried from asian shops is fine and not expensive. I had a bit into stewed livers and spicy sauces when I can remember---we haven't found a good seaweed salad recipe. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 Hi , LDN is proving to be remarkably effective in treating Hashimoto's disease--with minimal side effects and at a price anyone can afford. This site features the blog of a person who uses Low Dose Naltrexone (LDN) to treat Hashimoto's disease: http://tinyurl.com/dawns-hait-blog For more information about Low Dose Naltrexone, visit http://tinyurl.com/ldn-wonder-drug With best wishes, Dudley Delany http://profiles.yahoo.com/dudley_delany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 Shirataki yam noodles also contain iodine from seaweed. I haven't tried them yet and there are mixed reviews on the taste. It is a fermented product. rIt is an allowed food on his repair diet (that I'm on for at least 30 days, no cheating). The latest email from Dr. said that he doesn't believe in the goitrogeninc theory and that it is outdated. He is more concerned with the digestability of the greens. He would prefer that I eat some cooked, some raw and some fermented. > > Yes, I got that idea from Dr. Wahls too, on using seaweed and kombu kelp for iodine. I've opted for the Maine sea vegetables for fear of the Asian stuff and the recent Japanese nuclear dump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 I made those noodles today and immediately ordered more. They remind me of bean threads without the beans! Yum! The noodles take on the flavor of the sauce but I added them to salad. > > Shirataki yam noodles also contain iodine from seaweed. I haven't tried them yet and there are mixed reviews on the taste. It is a fermented product. rIt is an allowed food on his repair diet (that I'm on for at least 30 days, no cheating). The latest email from Dr. said that he doesn't believe in the goitrogeninc theory and that it is outdated. He is more concerned with the digestability of the greens. He would prefer that I eat some cooked, some raw and some fermented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 Are they good? I got a couple of them but have not Tried them yet. Sent from my iPod > > I made those noodles today and immediately ordered more. They remind me of bean threads without the beans! Yum! The noodles take on the flavor of the sauce but I added them to salad. > > > > > > > > Shirataki yam noodles also contain iodine from seaweed. I haven't tried them yet and there are mixed reviews on the taste. It is a fermented product. rIt is an allowed food on his repair diet (that I'm on for at least 30 days, no cheating). The latest email from Dr. said that he doesn't believe in the goitrogeninc theory and that it is outdated. He is more concerned with the digestability of the greens. He would prefer that I eat some cooked, some raw and some fermented. > > > > > TODAY(Beta) • Powered by Yahoo! > What Urkel is up to these days > Actor Jaleel White opens up about his days on " Family Matters " and keeping up with a special co-star. > Privacy Policy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 They're tastless on their own. The texture is what I liked about them. You have to drain and rinse them and then boil them for 6 min. At that point you can start adding vegetables and meat for a stir-fry, blend cooked veggies for a sauce, mix them in a salad. I would like them even if I wasn't eating them for the gluten-free aspect. They're not like Italian pasta. They're oriental. Get the brown yam variety. > > Are they good? I got a couple of them but have not > Tried them yet. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 Ok , i'll get those too. Where do they sell the brown yam noodles? Thanks ! Sent from my iPod > They're tastless on their own. The texture is what I liked about them. You have to drain and rinse them and then boil them for 6 min. At that point you can start adding vegetables and meat for a stir-fry, blend cooked veggies for a sauce, mix them in a salad. I would like them even if I wasn't eating them for the gluten-free aspect. They're not like Italian pasta. They're oriental. Get the brown yam variety. > > > > > > Are they good? I got a couple of them but have not > > Tried them yet. > > > > > > > TODAY(Beta) • Powered by Yahoo! > Super Bowl hero joins new team > Manningham will always be remembered for his big catch against the Patriots. > Privacy Policy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 I get them online at www.asianfoodgrocer.com. I also found them from the same seller on Amazon. The price is good from this seller but it's extremely high from Hoosier Farm. You might be able to get them locally at an Asian food or health food store. > > > > > > Are they good? I got a couple of them but have not > > > Tried them yet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > TODAY(Beta) • Powered by Yahoo! > > Super Bowl hero joins new team > > Manningham will always be remembered for his big catch against the Patriots. > > Privacy Policy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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