Guest guest Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 I'm so glad to see this article here too - this is a REALLY important message for people to both be aware of, and to share/spread to others too.I know we all think we're 'looking after ourselves' but I'm sure that many have overlooked the asprtame factor before. It's such an important factor to bring to everyone's attention - I'm so glad to see the message here too! I posted it on my Facebook goup ('Michelangelo'S Angels') to outline the dangers for people there but didn't get the chance to also post it here. Glad you spot my finds Tom - I've meant to let you know when I've seen the articles here a day or so later before - thanks for posting them here too! I'm so glad that you see them in my group on Facebk, find them valuable too and send these little important article finds to even more people. It's great and it always makes me smile. 'What we do in life, echoes through eternity.' MARCUS AURELIUS (121 - 180 A.D.) To: mscured From: nancboo@... Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 13:09:58 +0000 Subject: Re: aspartame Amen to that. It's amazing what people don't think about when it comes to what they eat. I had to stop a pregnant woman in my husbands practice from drinking a diet red bull. At first she wasn't listening until I told her that I am convinced that aspartame was the cause of my ms. Then my 7-year-old had to tell her not to fall for the sucralose ingredient as well because it is splenda. Sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 Okay question. So then are we thinking that Splenda is a problem for MS? The reason I ask is my husband is also a diabetic and sugar is definatly out for him. He started using splenda 4 years ago and almost a year ago the " MS " started. I put MS is quotes as that is what we have been told is what he has but I notice that when he doesn't have dairy products he has a better day the next day. When he eats dairy he has alot of problems the next day. When he has certain foods he has more problems the next day. I have been monitoring this and noticing things that come up. I am limiting these things without his knowledge to see how they effect him. I'm the cook so it's easy for me to do it. I'm working on making a diet plan that works for him and makes him feel better even if it doesn't cure him if it helps him it's worth it. So we are limiting his dairy to extremly low amounts (we're talking less than one ounce of cheese in 3 days). He will be taking calcium supplements to insure that he gets the calcium he needs. We will also be adding more dark leafy greens to our diet the problem there is he is not use to eating them so it will be a slow add. I have noticed that alot of MS diet seem to be leaning toward the Paleo diet but that is not suppose to be healthy for you as it misses alot of vitamines and I am concerned about the amount of fat involved in that plan. I also have to make sure that I don't let the glucose get out of hand and keep the meals balanced enough to keep me healthy as well. The grains are kept in check and within a reasonable serving size and are whole grain. Breads are again minimal. We choose things like Brown rice or wild rice over bread. When we do have a sandwhich its half a sandwich on whole grain bread with a huge bowl of veggie soup. The oils used are heart healthy oils (olive oil is the standard oil). We eat raw veggies in the form of salads. We don't eat much red meat. Maybe once a month. Lots of fish (Deep Sea fish). Chicken is a biggie here too. Mainly chicken breast trimmed of all fat. His glucose stays in control provided we follow these guidelines. When his glucose is in check his MS seems to be lessened as well. So is splenda a problem or is it just asparatame? Thanks Donna in VA >________________________________ > >To: MSCured <mscured > >Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 9:26 AM >Subject: RE: Re: aspartame > > > > > > >I'm so glad to see this article here too - this is a REALLY important message for people to both be aware of, and to share/spread to others too.I know we all think we're 'looking after ourselves' but I'm sure that many have overlooked the asprtame factor before. It's such an important factor to bring to everyone's attention - I'm so glad to see the message here too! I posted it on my Facebook goup ('Michelangelo'S Angels') to outline the dangers for people there but didn't get the chance to also post it here. Glad you spot my finds Tom - I've meant to let you know when I've seen the articles here a day or so later before - thanks for posting them here too! I'm so glad that you see them in my group on Facebk, find them valuable too and send these little important article finds to even more people. It's great and it always makes me smile. > >'What we do in life, echoes through eternity.' >MARCUS AURELIUS (121 - 180 A.D.) > >To: mscured >From: nancboo@... >Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 13:09:58 +0000 >Subject: Re: aspartame > >Amen to that. It's amazing what people don't think about when it comes to what they eat. I had to stop a pregnant woman in my husbands practice from drinking a diet red bull. At first she wasn't listening until I told her that I am convinced that aspartame was the cause of my ms. Then my 7-year-old had to tell her not to fall for the sucralose ingredient as well because it is splenda. > >Sad. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 All artificial sweeteners are problematic. The fool the body and do cellular damage. Here is a partial list of articles by Dr. Mercola explaining the dangers of artificial sweeteners. I have Diabetes 2. I use pure stevia extract (not that crap you can buy in the local grocery store) and occasionally local honey as my only sweeteners. Yvette > ** > > > Okay question. So then are we thinking that Splenda is a problem for MS? > The reason I ask is my husband is also a diabetic and sugar is definatly > out for him. He started using splenda 4 years ago and almost a year ago the > " MS " started. I put MS is quotes as that is what we have been told is what > he has but I notice that when he doesn't have dairy products he has a > better day the next day. When he eats dairy he has alot of problems the > next day. When he has certain foods he has more problems the next day. I > have been monitoring this and noticing things that come up. I am limiting > these things without his knowledge to see how they effect him. I'm the cook > so it's easy for me to do it. I'm working on making a diet plan that works > for him and makes him feel better even if it doesn't cure him if it helps > him it's worth it. So we are limiting his dairy to extremly low amounts > (we're talking less than one ounce of cheese in 3 days). He will be taking > calcium > supplements to insure that he gets the calcium he needs. We will also be > adding more dark leafy greens to our diet the problem there is he is not > use to eating them so it will be a slow add. I have noticed that alot of MS > diet seem to be leaning toward the Paleo diet but that is not suppose to be > healthy for you as it misses alot of vitamines and I am concerned about the > amount of fat involved in that plan. I also have to make sure that I don't > let the glucose get out of hand and keep the meals balanced enough to keep > me healthy as well. The grains are kept in check and within a reasonable > serving size and are whole grain. Breads are again minimal. We choose > things like Brown rice or wild rice over bread. When we do have a sandwhich > its half a sandwich on whole grain bread with a huge bowl of veggie soup. > The oils used are heart healthy oils (olive oil is the standard oil). We > eat raw veggies in the form of salads. We don't eat much red meat. Maybe > once > a month. Lots of fish (Deep Sea fish). Chicken is a biggie here too. > Mainly chicken breast trimmed of all fat. > His glucose stays in control provided we follow these guidelines. When his > glucose is in check his MS seems to be lessened as well. So is splenda a > problem or is it just asparatame? > Thanks > Donna in VA > > >________________________________ > > > >To: MSCured <mscured > > >Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 9:26 AM > >Subject: RE: Re: aspartame > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I'm so glad to see this article here too - this is a REALLY important > message for people to both be aware of, and to share/spread to others too.I > know we all think we're 'looking after ourselves' but I'm sure that many > have overlooked the asprtame factor before. It's such an important factor > to bring to everyone's attention - I'm so glad to see the message here too! > I posted it on my Facebook goup ('Michelangelo'S Angels') to outline the > dangers for people there but didn't get the chance to also post it here. > Glad you spot my finds Tom - I've meant to let you know when I've seen the > articles here a day or so later before - thanks for posting them here too! > I'm so glad that you see them in my group on Facebk, find them valuable too > and send these little important article finds to even more people. It's > great and it always makes me smile. > > > >'What we do in life, echoes through eternity.' > >MARCUS AURELIUS (121 - 180 A.D.) > > > >To: mscured > >From: nancboo@... > >Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 13:09:58 +0000 > >Subject: Re: aspartame > > > >Amen to that. It's amazing what people don't think about when it comes to > what they eat. I had to stop a pregnant woman in my husbands practice from > drinking a diet red bull. At first she wasn't listening until I told her > that I am convinced that aspartame was the cause of my ms. Then my > 7-year-old had to tell her not to fall for the sucralose ingredient as well > because it is splenda. > > > >Sad. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 I hear what you're saying Donna - definitely! Have you looked into the BBD (Best Bet Diet) at all?It has worked fo so many (me included) and cuts out things like dairy and all processed foods and leans towards only consuming what is more 'natural' for us and has been proven to react well for people who've been dxd with 'MS'. It's not a HUGE change really for people who already eat truly healthily (as it sounds you're already doing) and focuses on ensuring that all the digestive and modern problems created by today's sugary and processed diets are sidestepped. Aspartame has been proven to be a terrible thing - you're far better off using Stevia to sweeten things. It is good for the sugary taste but without the chemicals which cause the many problems. Splenda isn't such a gd sweetener to use - it's a bit on the 'processed' side of the street. There are lots of documents and articles which recommend against it - I'd always stick to the stuff which is a bit more 'natural'.....and I can only get it from healthfood shops that I trust in Australia when I'm home there so for me, that's always a good sign to me! A good site to investigate the diet I suggested is www.direct-ms.org or even the MSRC site at www.msrc.co.uk. Both can give you the run-down on it and suggest recipes, changeover steps and other ways to embrace it in your lives.Your husband is so lucky to have you helping him fight this fight - Diet truly is one of our greatest weapons against 'MS', I'm sure of it. 'What we do in life, echoes through eternity.' MARCUS AURELIUS (121 - 180 A.D.) To: mscured From: sdbmshad@... Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 06:54:00 -0800 Subject: Re: Re: aspartame Okay question. So then are we thinking that Splenda is a problem for MS? The reason I ask is my husband is also a diabetic and sugar is definatly out for him. He started using splenda 4 years ago and almost a year ago the " MS " started. I put MS is quotes as that is what we have been told is what he has but I notice that when he doesn't have dairy products he has a better day the next day. When he eats dairy he has alot of problems the next day. When he has certain foods he has more problems the next day. I have been monitoring this and noticing things that come up. I am limiting these things without his knowledge to see how they effect him. I'm the cook so it's easy for me to do it. I'm working on making a diet plan that works for him and makes him feel better even if it doesn't cure him if it helps him it's worth it. So we are limiting his dairy to extremly low amounts (we're talking less than one ounce of cheese in 3 days). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 C, I think you're moving along a good line - a more alkalising diet is always a good thing. I've heard this from many whose opinion I respect and I'm looking into things this way too.I started with the BBD and am investigating what exists at a different level of healing for me now too. :)Good luck with it - I think you'll do great! :)You know, I think everyone should pay more attention to what fuel they put into their bodies - we expect so much of them forgetting sometimes that they need TRUE fuel (REAL food) and that today's Supermarkets and food companies aren't producing and selling products aimed truly at our health (even though their packaging says they are). 'What we do in life, echoes through eternity.' MARCUS AURELIUS (121 - 180 A.D.) To: mscured From: brandtcar@... Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 15:28:01 +0000 Subject: Re: aspartame I am glad to read you are finding things to eat and what not to eat. I am almost a week solid into following the modified Wahls diet and stuff. I also am trying to work with the five levels of healing. On top of that I am monitoring my ph levels thru RBTI testing. I have someone who helps me interpret the RBTI results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 I actually started looking into BBD before I ended up doing multiple hospital stents. The good thing is they don't believe I have MS. I started having MS symptoms though. Left foot drop. Left side paralysis. Lots of stroke symptoms. One sclerosis on my brain. Numbness on my left side. But I also have migrains. So we are trying to figure me out as well. We tried stevia before and it agrivated his glucose. The doctors recommended splenda. So we switched to that. To date he has gone from eating lunch at fast food restruants to eating food from home and 99% of all foods from home. I am to the point that even our bread is made from home. We are looking a going gluten free again. We did that for a while but stopped when the MS started. I was also vegan until that started as well. We were eating alot of soy products which makes me wonder if that wasn't something that brought this on. He was never a soy eater until I went vegan. Kinda makes me feel guitly but we did that to make some of my health issues go away. Which it did and thankfully some have not returned. I truely believe that food has alot to do with a majority of the health issue we have. There are so many chemicals in our food supply that it's a wonder that any of us are truely having any form of health. We are planning to have a small garden when we move back to SC just can't do it in the apartment. No Room. We choose the best possible quality and am excited that they will be opening a Whole Foods in Virginia Beach sometime soon as they tend to have more healthy selections. When they were first trying to figure out what he had they messed everything up royally. They at one point thought he had brain cancer in which case he wouldn't have survived. We promised each other that we would fight this together and would make the best out of what ever time we have left and todate we have done well to get this under control. I believe we have slowed the process and are working on minimizing his relapses. He has had many of them in the short time since his diagnosis. It is in his spine and brain and so far it seems the spine is more active. We are working on keeping the body moving to keep the circulation and muscles going. There are good days and bad but we will not give up. I believe that he has the ability to have many many more years if we can find the right combination of medication (whether crab or herbal), diet, excerise and spiritual therapies. We just have to not give up. Hugs Donna in VA >________________________________ > >To: MSCured <mscured > >Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 10:17 AM >Subject: RE: Re: aspartame > > > > > > >I hear what you're saying Donna - definitely! Have you looked into the BBD (Best Bet Diet) at all?It has worked fo so many (me included) and cuts out things like dairy and all processed foods and leans towards only consuming what is more 'natural' for us and has been proven to react well for people who've been dxd with 'MS'. It's not a HUGE change really for people who already eat truly healthily (as it sounds you're already doing) and focuses on ensuring that all the digestive and modern problems created by today's sugary and processed diets are sidestepped. Aspartame has been proven to be a terrible thing - you're far better off using Stevia to sweeten things. It is good for the sugary taste but without the chemicals which cause the many problems. Splenda isn't such a gd sweetener to use - it's a bit on the 'processed' side of the street. There are lots of documents and articles which recommend against it - I'd always stick to the stuff which is a bit more 'natural'.....and I can only get it from healthfood shops that I trust in Australia when I'm home there so for me, that's always a good sign to me! A good site to investigate the diet I suggested is www.direct-ms.org or even the MSRC site at www.msrc.co.uk. Both can give you the run-down on it and suggest recipes, changeover steps and other ways to embrace it in your lives.Your husband is so lucky to have you helping him fight this fight - Diet truly is one of our greatest weapons against 'MS', I'm sure of it. > >'What we do in life, echoes through eternity.' >MARCUS AURELIUS (121 - 180 A.D.) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 Splenda is as bad or worse...Use " Stevia " , a natural herb or plant sweetener. Regards, Tom Bayuk Re: aspartame > >Amen to that. It's amazing what people don't think about when it comes to what they eat. I had to stop a pregnant woman in my husbands practice from drinking a diet red bull. At first she wasn't listening until I told her that I am convinced that aspartame was the cause of my ms. Then my 7-year-old had to tell her not to fall for the sucralose ingredient as well because it is splenda. > >Sad. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 i like to think i know a lot about ms evidently i dont tks for the info ________________________________ To: mscured Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 7:09 AM Subject: Re: aspartame  Amen to that. It's amazing what people don't think about when it comes to what they eat. I had to stop a pregnant woman in my husbands practice from drinking a diet red bull. At first she wasn't listening until I told her that I am convinced that aspartame was the cause of my ms. Then my 7-year-old had to tell her not to fall for the sucralose ingredient as well because it is splenda. Sad. > > > > > >Looking to avoid aspartame? Here are the top 10 worst sources: > ><http://www.naturalnews.com/035141_aspartame_worst_sources_products.html>http:/\ /www.naturalnews.com/035141_aspartame_worst_sources_products.html > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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