Guest guest Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 She is definitely trying to raise money--supposed to be to fund further research at the university of Iowa. I initially noticed increased leg strength---my legs had no improvement after ccsvi---so it was very noticeable. It faded when I got this sinus infection, possible abscessed tooth. Dentist appointment next Friday. I am hoping that once these infections are cleared up, my leg strength will return. My legs just felt more normal, less numb. I felt like exercise would feel good not just be draining. I have gotten an ems machine. Dr Wahls isn't sure whether it worked synergistically with the diet or what role it played. I haven't used it much. My priority is to use it to regain bladder control, if possible. I will need to work with a therapist to learn how to use it for muscle strength. But first, I want to be as healthy and infection free as possible. I do eat tons of kale now though, and no gluten or dairy. We'll see. > > > > > > I am just starting to use the lovely diet and lifestyle changes I heard about on a video by Terry Wahls. Would you like to help me with daily accountability? I am amazed how challenging I am finding this to do on my own. > > > > > > Right now I am just trying to figure out a routine and overcome the fatigue and emotional resistance to change. > > > > > > Any and all input is most welcome. > > > C. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 Maybe detox symptoms, maybe stress, maybe she pushed herself too hard promoting her mitochondria diet. Whatever the reason, once your auto-immune system is programmed to recognize an invader (of any kind) it will always go after the offender. The diet isn't a cure, it's a way to improve your condition. That's good enough for me. I have finally realized that relief is better than nothing as I approach my 10 year anniversary with MS. I have to tweak the diet based on my body chemistry. > > do you have some guesses why she improved and then it did not last? > Funny that it should be suggested T. Wahls was misdiagnosed. I wondered the same. Nonetheless, she seems to have recovered alot. > Thanks for the honest feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 This reads like you are writing about me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My sentiments entirely Russ.I wrote to Wahls and asked her what she ate before (because she sure has lost weight) but she didn't answer.Good luck to her whatever got her in or out of her chair. Just hope she is happy. > > > > > Janet To: mscured > > > > > From: music@ > > > > > Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 00:31:08 +0000 > > > > > Subject: Re: help starting Wahl's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have my serious doubts whether Dr. wahls even had MS in the first place. more than likely LYME disease which is often misdiagnosed as MS and curable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 hi russ, what an excellent post, I agree 100%, the progression of MS is different in us all, what suits one doesn't suit another, I wish your wife good health and your quest to heal. best/peter/ppms/london ________________________________ To: mscured Sent: Thursday, 1 March 2012, 21:08 Subject: Re: help starting Wahl's  I can only guess that the energy healing she got was enough to give her body boost but was unable to overcome the forceful progress of the MS. I believe MS is just like a ticking time bomb that will progress when it wants to progress regardless of any treatment anyone takes. This is the only reason why people experience different rates of progress. This is also why I believe it appears to some people that certain treatments work for only certain people. Its not the treatment having an effect but rather the rate of progression for that persons MS. You don't control MS it controls you. And the sense of feeling better will always occur initially because you are digesting something that is completely new to you. That's not to say don't bother with healthy eating and herbs and vitamins. On the contrary. I encourage people with MS to do so because when you do get worse you will need your body to be as healthy as possible to fight off 4 common issues with MS as you get worse. And that is phenomena UTI's, colds-flus, pressure sores. To avoid these issues and or prevent them the taking herbs and nutrition will greatly improve your chances of surviving health issues. I lost count how many times my wife has had pneumonia which she has had over 25-30 times. It's only the last few years I have manages to slow those issues down to almost nothing by way of HERBS. So does she feel better for taking particular HERBS? Yep she sure does. But has it reversed the effects of MS? No at all. I have seen people that have very very slow progression of MS and may never get any worse than a walking stick after 40 years of MS. This is not a result of taking some special herb or diet. This is a result of MS will progress at its own pace for that individual. Once again this is why it " appears " to some people that when they take treatment they feel better and symptoms seem to go away. It's only the MS not yet progressing. Which is why I believe when a cure for MS is found it WILL CURE EVERYONE with MS not just selectively work for one person and not another. My wife lead a healthy life style and was extremely fit and could run rings around me. she used to ride horses, water polo, tai chi, excercise in general etc... I don't have any answers and i can only continue on searching for a cure and any " real " evidence of anyone having reversed the effects of MS. thats yet to happen. The only answers i do have is how to care for someone with end stages MS 24/7 which is something most people dont hear about or talk about but beleive me there a lot of people out there with end stage MS that comes after secondary progressive MS. And it is these people that have tried all of the diets, and so called cures that yo never hear from again. and are still desperate to find a cure. And being brushed of with words like " oh it only works for some people but not others " is a total cop out as i have said before. It makes these people feel like they are being dismissed that they simply just havent tried hard enough or wern't positive enough etc. But when you care for someone 24/7 and see it every single day of your life just how hard they tried and kept trying it makes me sick when i hear people so those words and it couldnt be further from the truth. in the past when i had to feed my wife half a tea spoon of water at a time that took 4 hours to get her enough water in her for her only to smile thank me that she got to drink water today you will see where i am coming from. I brought her back from starvation 19kg/41pound to 53KG/116pounds when everyone else gave up and was ecpected to die back in 1998. It may have taken a gruelling 4-5 years but she did it and got through some of the worst things i have ever seen anyone go through in their life. going from being unconscious most of the day because when you wake up you can only scream with pain until you fall unconscious to a healthy weight and being awake all day and very healthy is no easy feat. So if that's not trying hard enough I don't know what is. Her MS has not reversed but her health is good as she is not sick anymore. Sorry if I have repeated myself here on some things but I don't know who is reading and may find what I have to say useful. russ > > > > I agree with you anything is possible. I too have heard and read in the thousands of stories over the last 20 years. > > > > My wife also appeared to make improvements with Diet and every other alternative treatment under the sun. And she too told people about her improvements. But it didn't last. So yes my wife had improvements. but those improvements are now all gone. > > > > In fact i even witnessed her get up off the practitioners table and walk 2 km's after receiving some acupuncture and energy healing treatment. I carried her in and she walk out. she was totally wheelchair bound and could not barley move. We even travelled to another country and went on bush walks. > > > > it lasted 3 months and then was all gone back to wheelchair bound. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 I started taking pumpkin seed oil to help with bladder control. It doesn't get rid of the problem entirely, but I do notice a little bit of improvement. FYI. Beverly My priority is to use it to regain bladder control, if possible. I will need to work with a therapist to learn how to use it for muscle strength. But first, I want to be as healthy and infection free as possible. I do eat tons of kale now though, and no gluten or dairy. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 sorry to hear that. ....Love is space and time measured by the heart. Marcel Proust JOEY-DEAN To: mscured From: music@... Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 04:49:55 +0000 Subject: Re: help starting Wahl's yes she did every diet without fail and without cheating. even vegitarien only diets. she never cheated on any diet or excersice.she did gluten free 100% she did everything 100% as others have also and still got worse. which is why MS will do what it wants to you and no diet will reverse the MS. just makes you healthier until the next attack which hopefully is a long way away. did she ever feel better doing some of these fad diets? yep sure did. it even appeared to be working as people here described. but in the end the next attack undoes everything you just did in one swoop. russ > > > > > > > > > My sentiments entirely Russ.I wrote to Wahls and asked her what she ate before (because she sure has lost weight) but she didn't answer.Good luck to her whatever got her in or out of her chair. Just hope she is happy. > > > Janet To: mscured > > > From: music@ > > > Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 00:31:08 +0000 > > > Subject: Re: help starting Wahl's > > > > > > > > > I have my serious doubts whether Dr. wahls even had MS in the first place. more than likely LYME disease which is often misdiagnosed as MS and curable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 I so appreciate hearing from everyone. Thank you. I have been following a careful version of Wahls for 3 days. I also have been doing steps that are in the five levels of healing. I think its traditional Indian healing but I am not sure. I took some notes and do something in each of the five levels of healing each day. I am fortunate to know someone trained in RBTI and I monitor my ph balance. I can tell when I am too alkaline or too acidic. I feel sort of foggy headed and sort of tired and strange. Keeping a balanced ph seems to help me some. I don't like following limited diets and focusing on healing but hey I decided to do it . Thank you so much everyone. My best of wishes to each of you. > > > > > > I agree with you anything is possible. I too have heard and read in the thousands of stories over the last 20 years. > > > > > > My wife also appeared to make improvements with Diet and every other alternative treatment under the sun. And she too told people about her improvements. But it didn't last. So yes my wife had improvements. but those improvements are now all gone. > > > > > > In fact i even witnessed her get up off the practitioners table and walk 2 km's after receiving some acupuncture and energy healing treatment. I carried her in and she walk out. she was totally wheelchair bound and could not barley move. We even travelled to another country and went on bush walks. > > > > > > it lasted 3 months and then was all gone back to wheelchair bound. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 Russ, I agree also. My husband has tried many things, not as much as your wife, but I agree that MS takes it's course differently with everyone.  You are fortunate if you have RRMS throughout most of your life.. I have a fear that MS can take out my husband at anytime.  I also get angry when pp make comments that sound as if he did not do enough. Or, they know so and so that is doing very well since they were diagnosed 20 years ago, I wonder why it's different for you.  Well, if they would care enough to read about it they would know.  My husband was also very active, never missed work and really enjoyed his job. Was very much into sports, when he traveled took a basketball with him and shot around at any court he could find. Never sat on the couch for long periods of time, ate well,  and so on. But, this disease still landed him in a wheelchair, trapped in his body.  He continues to weaken even though we have a caregiver for him who stretches and exercises him daily. It's very sad and I just don't know who could realistically think anyone would prefer that, over being well and being independent.  I could just imagine what you and your wife go through with her being bedridden. We have had some really tough times and I know tougher times are ahead of us. And I am an optimistic person, but very realistic.  All we can do is keep on top of any possible cure that may arise. It is out of our hands. We can do the best we can to help ourselves, but this disease is bigger than everything we have try so desperately to do to help ourselves. The disease your wife and my husband have, and anyone else that is suffering from being trapped in their bodies from MS, is a terrible and inhumane way to live, in my opinion. Until you see and deal first hand with that type of suffering, day after day, you understand.  I hope so much we will be able to experience a cure with our spouses and live a peaceful life ~ Diane    Subject: Re: Re: help starting Wahl's To: " mscured " <mscured > Date: Saturday, March 3, 2012, 5:26 AM  hi russ, what an excellent post, I agree 100%, the progression of MS is different in us all, what suits one doesn't suit another, I wish your wife good health and your quest to heal. best/peter/ppms/london ________________________________ To: mscured Sent: Thursday, 1 March 2012, 21:08 Subject: Re: help starting Wahl's  I can only guess that the energy healing she got was enough to give her body boost but was unable to overcome the forceful progress of the MS. I believe MS is just like a ticking time bomb that will progress when it wants to progress regardless of any treatment anyone takes. This is the only reason why people experience different rates of progress. This is also why I believe it appears to some people that certain treatments work for only certain people. Its not the treatment having an effect but rather the rate of progression for that persons MS. You don't control MS it controls you. And the sense of feeling better will always occur initially because you are digesting something that is completely new to you. That's not to say don't bother with healthy eating and herbs and vitamins. On the contrary. I encourage people with MS to do so because when you do get worse you will need your body to be as healthy as possible to fight off 4 common issues with MS as you get worse. And that is phenomena UTI's, colds-flus, pressure sores. To avoid these issues and or prevent them the taking herbs and nutrition will greatly improve your chances of surviving health issues. I lost count how many times my wife has had pneumonia which she has had over 25-30 times. It's only the last few years I have manages to slow those issues down to almost nothing by way of HERBS. So does she feel better for taking particular HERBS? Yep she sure does. But has it reversed the effects of MS? No at all. I have seen people that have very very slow progression of MS and may never get any worse than a walking stick after 40 years of MS. This is not a result of taking some special herb or diet. This is a result of MS will progress at its own pace for that individual. Once again this is why it " appears " to some people that when they take treatment they feel better and symptoms seem to go away. It's only the MS not yet progressing. Which is why I believe when a cure for MS is found it WILL CURE EVERYONE with MS not just selectively work for one person and not another. My wife lead a healthy life style and was extremely fit and could run rings around me. she used to ride horses, water polo, tai chi, excercise in general etc... I don't have any answers and i can only continue on searching for a cure and any " real " evidence of anyone having reversed the effects of MS. thats yet to happen. The only answers i do have is how to care for someone with end stages MS 24/7 which is something most people dont hear about or talk about but beleive me there a lot of people out there with end stage MS that comes after secondary progressive MS. And it is these people that have tried all of the diets, and so called cures that yo never hear from again. and are still desperate to find a cure. And being brushed of with words like " oh it only works for some people but not others " is a total cop out as i have said before. It makes these people feel like they are being dismissed that they simply just havent tried hard enough or wern't positive enough etc. But when you care for someone 24/7 and see it every single day of your life just how hard they tried and kept trying it makes me sick when i hear people so those words and it couldnt be further from the truth. in the past when i had to feed my wife half a tea spoon of water at a time that took 4 hours to get her enough water in her for her only to smile thank me that she got to drink water today you will see where i am coming from. I brought her back from starvation 19kg/41pound to 53KG/116pounds when everyone else gave up and was ecpected to die back in 1998. It may have taken a gruelling 4-5 years but she did it and got through some of the worst things i have ever seen anyone go through in their life. going from being unconscious most of the day because when you wake up you can only scream with pain until you fall unconscious to a healthy weight and being awake all day and very healthy is no easy feat. So if that's not trying hard enough I don't know what is. Her MS has not reversed but her health is good as she is not sick anymore. Sorry if I have repeated myself here on some things but I don't know who is reading and may find what I have to say useful. russ > > > > I agree with you anything is possible. I too have heard and read in the thousands of stories over the last 20 years. > > > > My wife also appeared to make improvements with Diet and every other alternative treatment under the sun. And she too told people about her improvements. But it didn't last. So yes my wife had improvements. but those improvements are now all gone. > > > > In fact i even witnessed her get up off the practitioners table and walk 2 km's after receiving some acupuncture and energy healing treatment. I carried her in and she walk out. she was totally wheelchair bound and could not barley move. We even travelled to another country and went on bush walks. > > > > it lasted 3 months and then was all gone back to wheelchair bound. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 It doesn't really make sense that Terry had Lyme and not MS because her healing protocol did not include antibiotics. She is an MD at the U of Iowa and if her story was fake, many people would have come out and said so. I don't think she would have faked being in a wheelchair for 4 years just to write a book. I agree that healing MS is an individual thing, but I think Terry Wahls story is among the most inspiring and could be used as a first try in healing--with modifications as needed. For example for me I am going to try her protocol but there is no way I will eat organ meat. It does annoy me a little that she keeps coming out with one book or DVD after another now. If she already healed, why does she need to keep updating the books? But maybe there is a reason. Regardless her story remains the most inspiring of any MS healing story I have heard. > > From: music@... > > Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 00:31:08 +0000 > > Subject: Re: help starting Wahl's > > > > I have my serious doubts whether Dr. wahls even had MS in > the first place. more than likely LYME disease which is > often misdiagnosed as MS and curable. > > > > People with serious MS do not get of the wheelchair by diet > or even Dr. wahls diet. At best it will make you feel better > as any good healthy diet will. > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 Take co-enzyme Q10 or ubiquinol (the enhanced version) instead of organ meat.It annoys me too about the number of books, etc. I do not like people making money out of an illness whether true or not.Janet To: mscured From: zoehealthy@... Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 15:01:17 -0800 Subject: RE: Re: help starting Wahl's It doesn't really make sense that Terry had Lyme and not MS because her healing protocol did not include antibiotics. She is an MD at the U of Iowa and if her story was fake, many people would have come out and said so. I don't think she would have faked being in a wheelchair for 4 years just to write a book. I agree that healing MS is an individual thing, but I think Terry Wahls story is among the most inspiring and could be used as a first try in healing--with modifications as needed. For example for me I am going to try her protocol but there is no way I will eat organ meat. It does annoy me a little that she keeps coming out with one book or DVD after another now. If she already healed, why does she need to keep updating the books? But maybe there is a reason. Regardless her story remains the most inspiring of any MS healing story I have heard. > > From: music@... > > Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 00:31:08 +0000 > > Subject: Re: help starting Wahl's > > > > I have my serious doubts whether Dr. wahls even had MS in > the first place. more than likely LYME disease which is > often misdiagnosed as MS and curable. > > > > People with serious MS do not get of the wheelchair by diet > or even Dr. wahls diet. At best it will make you feel better > as any good healthy diet will. > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 It upsets me when I read about people who have found nothing to help their " MS " . I was going down that route until I had CCSVI treatment 16 months ago. I know this subject has caused tensions and arguments in the MS community, people either being totally for or very opposed to it. I really would urge people in these situations to look into it. The procedure, in my case, took less than half an hour, was painless and far preferrable than going to the dentist. No general anaesthetic is given, only the catheter insertion point in the groin was anaesthetized.Most of my symptoms vanished in that half hour. As someone still with MS I very well know the endless " this cured my friend... " stories that I have always taken with a pinch of salt, thinking each of us is different but as this has helped in the region of 30,000 people worldwide now, they can't all be the same. A simple procedure that has changed my life. Yes, I'm still in a wheelchair but everything else has not only improved but gone.Janet To: mscured From: pansino@... Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 13:14:10 -0800 Subject: Re: Re: help starting Wahl's Russ, I agree also. My husband has tried many things, not as much as your wife, but I agree that MS takes it's course differently with everyone. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Hi Personally, I was happy to purchase the book due to the following statement on her website: " Note that I donate half of all profits from the sales of my books and lectures to supporting my clinical research, which tests the benefits of intensive nutrition and lifestyle changes for those with multiple sclerosis and other autoimmune diseases. These funds have allowed us to gather the pilot data, which will enable us to get funding for larger studies. The ultimate goal of all my research is to bring health and vitality to as many people as possible. " I've also made a direct donate to the research Sharon > > Take co-enzyme Q10 or ubiquinol (the enhanced version) instead of organ meat.It annoys me too about the number of books, etc. I do not like people making money out of an illness whether true or not.Janet > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 I bought the 2nd edition of the Minding My Mitochondria. I am inspired by Terry Wahls story. I do think others have healed in other methods and it's not a one-size-fits all, but hers is one of the more remarkable stories. I find it hard to get 9 or more servings of vegetables into my diet per day, but I'm trying. I see she has put out a bunch of additional nutritional books or DVDS (I think it's a four part series) since the book I bought. I'm not sure what if anything changed...I would also like to know her stand on supplements at this point. I know from my own earlier emails with her that she has changed her stance on supplements a couple times. Initially she had them as part of her protocol, then she felt that we could get everything we need from food, and then she added them back in. Last I heard, which was a while back, she was taking chlorella and Iodine. If anyone knows where she stands on supplements now, please advise. Also as to the comment that she no longer responds to email, I think that may be partly because as a doctor she does not want to dispense medical advice, as that is a liability. I have asked her some questions like whether I should get the contrast in my MRIs and she has told me talk to my physician--which I interpreted as that she doesn't want to be dispensing medical advice to non-patients. I am really going to try to do her protocol and to others here who are also doing or trying to do her diet, I would love to hear updates if you have any improvements. Also thanks to the person who recommended the CoQ10 for the fact that I am not going to eat the organ meat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 I will have to disagree. Dr. Wahls was in a wheelchair for 4 straight years, although she was able to walk short distances with 2 canes during that time. That could hardly be considered a case of relapsing-remitting MS. Maybe the electrical stim she did with physical therapists was a big part of her recovery as well. She doesn't write about that as much, but she did initially. She used some heavy duty stim devices that were by prescription only. Anyway, while I do think some cases of MS kind of do their own thing and may not seem as amenable to what we do to heal it, I still feel that what we do to heal it in at least some or most cases really does help. I believe I have kept my own disease manageable by stopping all of the nasty habbits I used to have like cigarettes and changing my diet. Before MS, I had barely eaten a vegetable in my life and rarely drank water. I think if I hadn't changed these things, my illness would be much worse now....As for Terry Wahls, if she does draw some income from her books and stuff, she is also spending lots of time and resources to write those books. It is not so terrible she be paid. What bothers me is if the plan is changing. If she got the plan right the first time, why do there need to keep being new revisions? But overall I am thrilled to have her as one more of a number of healing examples. Bottom line: Lets keep hope alive! > > Subject: Re: help starting Wahl's > To: mscured > Date: Thursday, March 1, 2012, 9:04 PM > > > I want to point out yet again that i am NOT against > it. and yes it has been documneted and video 100% most fo > the treatment my wife did and it still failed. > > > > what I AM against is the CLAIMS that Dr. wahls had MS and > got out of the wheelchaire making the claim of defeating > proegressive MSas a direct result of her diets etc... > > > > most claims like these always lead to " buy my > book " " by my video " " by my product " > Dr. terry wahls stands to profit greatly from her claims. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Shaz, Do you use dressing or anything like gluten free crutons, etc, to make the vegetables tastier? I really have trouble eating that much greens without adding something like a gluten free wrap. Shaz, also, are you taking supplements? I have another question. When one rinses off their veggies, what is the best way to dry them. I tend to use paper towels which may have toxins, but otherwise they are soggy, and I need them to be dry. > > Subject: Re: help starting Wahl's > To: mscured > Date: Monday, February 27, 2012, 3:58 AM > > > Hi, I'm following the Wahls diet and initially > I found I was hungry all the time and lost weight, but after > viewing the video again and following her in Facebook (great > way of getting gentle reminders) I realise I had to > dramatically increase the volume, '3 dinner plates piled > high with greens'. Now I'm reaping the benefits and > people are commenting that my walking is better after just 2 > months :-) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Thanks and good luck wishes back to you. Its been about a week and today I feel good. I found watercress and ate it for the first time. I was not sure what to use for like a salad dressing. I had some pesto in a small jar. I added some hot water, stirred it and I had a reasonably good salad dressing that I put on my watercress. It feels like an eternity and its only been a week. I will keep at it. First March , then the next 3 months. Thank you and thank you everyone else with all the feedback. Keep commenting. It really helps !!!:) maybe listen again. there is one on how to get started. one by TedX, both on youtube. > > > > I am just starting to use the lovely diet and lifestyle changes I heard about on a video by Terry Wahls. Would you like to help me with daily accountability? I am amazed how challenging I am finding this to do on my own. > > > > Right now I am just trying to figure out a routine and overcome the fatigue and emotional resistance to change. > > > > Any and all input is most welcome. > > C. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 OK I asked. Nutritioal yeast contains gluten and green tea stimulates my immune system. > > > > > > Hope you are improving, . What is wrong with nutritional yeast and green tea (for you and your functional neurologist)? I try to buy nutritional that is not a byproduct of beer making so it is gluten free. It is high in B12 and other B Vitamins, that's why I use it.Thanks, Carolyn > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Brewers yeast is often a problem (barley) but the majority of nutritional yeast is gluten-free.Janet To: mscured From: alpdesigns1@... Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 00:24:03 +0000 Subject: Re: help starting Wahl's OK I asked. Nutritioal yeast contains gluten and green tea stimulates my immune system. > > > > > > Hope you are improving, . What is wrong with nutritional yeast and green tea (for you and your functional neurologist)? I try to buy nutritional that is not a byproduct of beer making so it is gluten free. It is high in B12 and other B Vitamins, that's why I use it.Thanks, Carolyn > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 I never had it before I made Terry Wahl's recipe for kale chips so I won't miss it. There are too many reports that brewer's yeast and nutritional yeast are the same product using different names. My new guy said no nutritional yeast because it may contain gluten. I'm going by what he says whether it contains gluten or not. My feet aren't swollen like they were based on what he told me not to eat. Either way, that was the reason he gave when asked about it. > > > Brewers yeast is often a problem (barley) but the majority of nutritional yeast is gluten-free.Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 I looked it up and both nutritional yeast and brewers yeast are made by the same strain of yeast on different hosts. It is the same yeast that edible mushrooms contain. All fungi is disallowed for me but I don't get where he said that it contains gluten. He may have said glutamate which occurs naturally in nutritional yeast. According to Blaylock it is a neurotoxin, an exitotoxin. I'll pass. It makes me wonder how much Terry Wahls knows scientifically. http://www.daystarbotanicals.com/nutritionalyeast.html > > > > > > > > > Brewers yeast is often a problem (barley) but the majority of nutritional yeast is gluten-free.Janet > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 I am well into my second week of the Wahls diet and I have been tired, fatigued, and have had headaches. My urine PH levels have been very high (alkaline). I will try to balance the ph with healthy foods. I was going to give up but i will keep trying. I don't fully understand why I keep getting high numbers and headaches. Its all healthy food in moderate enough amounts. > > > > > > > > > Brewers yeast is often a problem (barley) but the majority of nutritional yeast is gluten-free.Janet > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 I was the same way but I also had an emotional breakdown. L fell a lot in Texas while following this diet. Aside from eliminating the nutritional yeast, I had more success by eating smaller meals more frequently and included more snacks so I didn't get hungry throughout the day. It could have been due to blood sugar spikes or digestion issues but at first I thought it was detox or die-off. A stool sample determined that there was nothing to die-off and while the foods that I eat now are much the same, the volume is different and I am doing much better. > > > > > > > > > > > > Brewers yeast is often a problem (barley) but the majority of nutritional yeast is gluten-free.Janet > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 C... What was your diet before you started The Wahls? Have you made too many changes too quickly? For me it seems I can't do anything cold turkey without suffering..lol I have been working my way into the diet for about ten days now and I notice a reduction in fatigue. Previously I was doing BBD but working on eliminating gains anyways. I was still craving them until I started the Whals and hugely increased my veggies and added more fat. I make a green smoothie with my blender full of baby spinach and baby mixed greens and drink that in the morning and it really has helped too. Lynne > > I am well into my second week of the Wahls diet and I have been tired, > fatigued, and have had headaches. My urine PH levels have been very high > (alkaline). I will try to balance the ph with healthy foods. I was going to > give up but i will keep trying. I don't fully understand why I keep getting > high numbers and headaches. Its all healthy food in moderate enough amounts. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 I felt it was worth giving it a try but what worked for her may not work for me without tweaking it some. Like I've said, three meals a day stressed my body but more frequent, smaller meals with snacks throughout the day work better for me. It's basically the same food. It still boils down to eating whole foods and eliminating what doesn't work. > > I will have to disagree. Dr. Wahls was in a wheelchair for 4 straight years, although she was able to walk short distances with 2 canes during that time. That could hardly be considered a case of relapsing-remitting MS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Hi Zoe As a salad dressing I often use rape seed oil (or any other oil with omega 3) and apple cider vinegar with a little sea salt and pepper. Today I tried a new one of tahani, rice vinegar and rape seed oil on my kelp noodle and salmon salad, quite please with that. At dinner my favourite thing at the moment is to ligthly stir-fry/steam garlic with kelp or spring greens then stir though a tbsp of cider vinegar before eting. Or I have a turkey bolagnese sauce, or liver/heart in a onion, garlic, tomatoe sauce to disguise the flavour, on top of the veggies. I could go on, but I hope that gives you some ideas, its an adventure not a chore, enjoy! Shaz x > > Shaz, > Do you use dressing or anything like gluten free crutons, etc, to make the vegetables tastier? I really have trouble eating that much greens without adding something like a gluten free wrap. Shaz, also, are you taking supplements? > > I have another question. When one rinses off their veggies, what is the best way to dry them. I tend to use paper towels which may have toxins, but otherwise they are soggy, and I need them to be dry. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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