Guest guest Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 It's interesting isn't it?This was posted last week and whilst it's interesting, I'll just be interested to find out what side effects etc come with this one. 'What we do in life, echoes through eternity.' MARCUS AURELIUS (121 - 180 A.D.) To: MSnaturally@...; MSersLife ; mscured ; MSChristian ; MS_Community ; Josbyz@...; chris@... From: tbayuk@... Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 12:10:49 -0400 Subject: Fw: Daily pill could or even reverse Multiple Sclerosis Subject: Daily pill could or even reverse Multiple Sclerosis Daily pill 'could stop or even REVERSE multiple sclerosis' Researchers in Canada discover low levels of brain chemicals in sufferers Trials are already underway and could speed the drug's release for general use By Daily Mail Reporter Last updated at 3:49 PM on 23rd September 2011 Comments (25) Add to My Stories Share Breakthrough: An effective treatment could be available within six years Doctors have made an 'exciting' breakthrough that could lead to a new treatment to stop - or even reverse the symptoms - of multiple sclerosis. Researchers have discovered that people with MS have significantly lower levels of brain chemicals called neuro-steroids. Neuro-steroids help build brain cells and maintain their function, connecting different areas of activity in the brain. Scientists and neurologists at the University of Alberta in Edmonton, Canada believe that it would be possible to replace the missing chemical with a daily pill that would represent a completely different way of dealing with the disease that affects more than 85,000 people in the UK. Dr Power announced the discovery in a research paper in the latest issue of Brain. He said: 'This frankly is an exciting breakthrough and has huge potential. The role of neurosteroids in the brain has been known for some time but no one thought - until now - that they might play a role in MS.' The link with the disease was made when his team tested the brains of 16 patients from Alberta - which has the highest levels of MS in the world - and discovered that they had significant lower levels of a particular neuro-steroid allopregnanolone compared to a group of patients who had died from other diseases. Dr Power's team were excited because trials using allopregnanolone - which is derived from cholesterol and is linked to vitamin D - are already underway in epilepsy and depression. More... Why MRI scans CAN make you dizzy: Magnetic fields disrupt fluid in inner ear The revolutionary pill that promises to smooth away crow's feet 'The chemical is already available which speeds up the process that could eventually get this into humans with MS,' he said. Researchers are interested in the vitamin D link because it has been established that there are higher levels of MS in Northern areas of the world such as Scotland where reduced levels of the vitamin have been linked to less exposure to sunlight. When mice with MS were treated with allopregnanolone it had a significant effect, reducing inflammation levels in the brain and repairing nerve fibres. In MS the myelin sheath around nerves is destroyed by the disease which is triggered by the immune system 'over reacting' and attacking healthy cells rather than invading infections and diseases. MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS Multiple Sclerosis is a complex condition which can be difficult to diagnose because it presents in many different forms. Symptoms can include problems with vision, balance and dizziness, fatigue as well as bladder, speech and swallowing difficulties. The condition can also affect memory and thinking and impact on a sufferer's emotions. In severe cases a person with MS will be unable to walk. Most people will not suffer the same symptoms and they will not suffer all of them at the same time. MS is usually diagnosed in adults between 20 and 40 years old and is more prevalent in women. Treatments up until now have included drug, exercise and physiotherapy alongside diet and alternative therapies. MS is an inflammatory disease which damages the tissue around the brain and the spinal cord, this affects the ability of cells to communicate leaving the body unable to respond to instructions from the brain. MS in its severest form can cause loss of mobility but the Canadian researchers found that the mice given the steroid were found to have increased levels of mobility over a 30 day period following the start of treatment. Dr Power said: 'Overall we found that the mice showed a 50 per cent reduction in MS disease severity in the brain.' At present there a number of drugs that slow the progression of MS but after a period of time many patients 'fail' on the treatments and their disease continues to progress. Dr Power believes that regular treatment with allopregnanolone - and possibly other neurosteroids halt the disease and can reverse some of the symptoms. He said: 'We were surprised by our initial discovery that this neurosteroid was present in reduced levels in MS patients and then amazed to discover that when we used it as treatment it had such significant effects.' Funding for the research came from the Canadian Government and the country's MS Society. Dr Power is now hoping to get Government or drug funding to start the first stages of human trials with allopregnanolone within the next couple of years. He said: 'Initially we will be looking that it is safe to take. But to some extent that work has been done because of the trials in other disease areas. Our research on mice showed no toxicity. 'If we overcome that hurdle - which we should then we would be onto stage two trials to establish that it works as a treatment. 'We are talking about it being at least six or seven years away as a treatment but I am optimistic about our chances even though there are a number of hurdles to overcome.' Explore more: Places: Scotland, United Kingdom, Canada Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2040959/Daily-pill-stop-reverse-multip\ le-sclerosis.html#ixzz1YtbbeTbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 Interesting, is anyone taking pregnenolone? This could explain why the link to low dhea levels and ms You can get a blood test from lef to check your levels. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 Side effects? Why would you think there would be side effects? > Restoring low levels of a naturally occurring compound should have the lowest or no side effects at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 , I'm curious to learn more about your comment regarding DHEA and MS. I don't recall hearing about DHEA before, but I'm always open to learning about new tests. I found this reference on the web for DHEA and MS: http://www.lef.org/protocols/neurological/multiple_sclerosis_01.htm Do you have any other info? I would be glad to request the test from my doctor (or do it myself) if I felt it was beneficial. Thanks! Larry > ** > > > Interesting, is anyone taking pregnenolone? This could explain why the > link to low dhea levels and ms > > You can get a blood test from lef to check your levels. > > > > -- " I ask God not for the grace to see what lies ahead but for the grace to accept whatever comes. " -- Merton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 I have read several things, but it's been a while. Just spend some more time on google. It does make sense that ms usually shows up around age 30-40 and that is when dhea levels plummet. May e it is the rise in inflammation from low dhea combined with immune imbalance from low dhea. But pregnenolone is the precursor to dhea. So low preg and low dhea starts to make sense. You can get a preg and dhea test from lef. I got mine tested and it was very low, so I started taking it and feel 100 times better. I might start taking preg too > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 It's a drug and is artificially made.....therefore (judging by previous experiences and knowledge), I ask the question regarding the side effects.It makes perfect sense to me to ask the question. 'What we do in life, echoes through eternity.' MARCUS AURELIUS (121 - 180 A.D.) To: mscured From: ortcloud@... Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 17:17:07 -0700 Subject: Re: Fw: Daily pill could or even reverse Multiple Sclerosis Side effects? Why would you think there would be side effects? > Restoring low levels of a naturally occurring compound should have the lowest or no side effects at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 allopregnanolone? a drug? Why would you say that? Do you consider insulin a drug? It is artificially made for diabetics and is sold as a drug but I don't consider it a drug, it is naturally occurring in the body and in diabetes is low, so restoring levels to normal would be very different than some foreign synthetic drug that was never in the body. allopregnanolone is the same thing, it is naturally occurring and they would be supplementing to bring back levels, but to just lump that in with toxic foreign synthetic drugs doesn't make sense to me. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 oh wellwe'll just have to agree to disagree then - I just do not trust BIG Pharma....and perhaps I've just had far worse outcomes and experiences from what they insist is something which is good for us.Unless I've been misled, this report (which I posted on my group site when it first came out last week), apologies, but it is no supplement from what was written in the article.As I said, agree to disagree - I truly am not in this to change anyone else's viewpoint so would like to respectfully just end it here thanks. 'What we do in life, echoes through eternity.' MARCUS AURELIUS (121 - 180 A.D.) To: mscured From: ortcloud@... Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:42:16 -0700 Subject: Re: Fw: Daily pill could or even reverse Multiple Sclerosis allopregnanolone? a drug? Why would you say that? Do you consider insulin a drug? It is artificially made for diabetics and is sold as a drug but I don't consider it a drug, it is naturally occurring in the body and in diabetes is low, so restoring levels to normal would be very different than some foreign synthetic drug that was never in the body. allopregnanolone is the same thing, it is naturally occurring and they would be supplementing to bring back levels, but to just lump that in with toxic foreign synthetic drugs doesn't make sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 So you would also consider coq10, glucosamine and Sam-e all drugs? I don't trust big pharma either but if they made co-q10 or glucosamine I wouldn't care. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 I read this web site regularly and everytime I hear of a supplement that could help MS, or one of my many symptoms I search the web and purchase it. Sometimes I am overwelmed by all the supplements I am taking. Does anyone feel the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 I periodically have MRIs and it shows the same...Consistant with previous MS Diagnosis, yet I am getting worse. I asked my neuro and he says that there is damage that does not show on the MRI, it is deeper in the brain. Tammy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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