Re: The other side

[Guest guest]

I have always been a big proponent of the idea that not all MS is the

same MS. I know there are different categories but what I mean is that

it appears that there are some that are triggered by different things,

which makes getting to the bottom of it a nightmare.

The things you are doing sound right, if it is working, then it is

working. Rebif was not good for me, seemed to make me worse and really,

in all reality - how will I really know? It is like taking an aspiring

when you get a headache and the headache goes away - was it the aspirin

or the water you drank with it - or was it destined to go away anyway?

How will a person every really know?

I think you are right about being happy, that is so important. I had to

rearrange my expectations, desires, needs and wants to get to a happy

place. Regardless what happens to me, I know I will be happy, sometimes

with a crabby exterior LOL.... but seriously, it is so important!

>

> After thousands of out-of-pocket dollars spent on alternative

> treatments and trying various diets, with no results, I was

> progressing. I gave in and got on Rebif several years ago. I've had no

> problems with it, and it has stopped progression. I'm also on Ampyra,

> which helps me walk better. I haven't thrown the baby out with the

> bath water, feeling I should be open to anything that might help. My

> integrative doctor believes the same. We did some testing and found

> several of my hormones were out of whack, so now I'm on bioidenticals.

> It won't be forever because they'll retrain my body to produce them.

> Taking them is a whole-body approach, like removing my amalgams:

> treatments may not directly relate to MS, but anything that makes me

> healthier is a plus. We also did some food testing. I'm okay with

> dairy, eggs and soy but not gluten. The Paleo diet hasn't helped me.

> (My GP said, You're probably a different subset from Dr. Wahls.) I'm

> eating a little of everything, except gluten, and I feel great and

> look healthy. I stay positive by not looking at MS as something

> horrible or a war to be won. For me, t's an opportunity for learning.

> And I've noticed that the happier I feel, the better my body works.

>

> Martha

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with you Martha. I'm in the what-ever-it-takes frame of mind myself but

I still don't take medications. If I thought they would help, I would! The

Terry Wahls diet, with large quantities of berries, is screwing up my adrenal

glands. I think the whole endocrine system is involved. I know I have

Hashimoto's thyroiditis but I also have adrenal fatigue and the berries are

messing with my blood sugar. I am not progressing, I actually feel good while

not being able to walk, but I am more in tune with how I react to things.

>

> After thousands of out-of-pocket dollars spent on alternative treatments and

trying various diets, with no results, I was progressing.

[Guest guest]

There are some interesting comments and observations on the epidemic

thyroid-adrenal dysfunction in modern society, as well as danger of soy and gmo

foods on this site. I do eat blue green algae, but this is not where I buy it.

I'm just putting the link here to share the info they put forth. Eating the aloe

I grow at home fixed my sugar metabolism. I had to learn the expensive way....I

wasted a lot of money on aloe products.

optimumchoices.com/Silent_epidemic.htm#Hidden_Endocrine-Immune_Imbalance  I am

the epitome of hardcore Whatever It Takes.

[Guest guest]

My Functional Neurologist recommended an adrenal product called Adrenal

Rebuilder by . It's a glandular supplement without the hormones. I

have since read 's book " Adrenal Fatigue: The 21st Century Stress

Syndrome " and I have employed a few of his ideas (sea salt in water, no fruit at

breaskfast, smaller but more frequent meals, etc.). The salt helps remove

excess potassium from the kidneys and, as an electrolyte, charges the brain to

muscle response. It's also helping settle my electrical field down! My

keyboard is not as static and it's not like a ouija board anymore! This is new

to me and I don't know if the results are real or caused by innervation.

>

> There are some interesting comments and observations on the epidemic

thyroid-adrenal dysfunction in modern society, 

[Guest guest]

I was going to suggest 's book " Adrenal Fatigue " . Glad you have it and

have read it. 5 points for you! It certainly makes one aware of the

synchronisity of the entire endrocine gland system. I did the whole program for

6 months. It helped, but what put me back on my feet was eliminating all gluten,

gmo, and especially corn! see cornallergens.com you will be amazed at what corn

is in. Most supplements are in magnesium stearate capsules, a gmo corn product.

It is a lethal poison now that it has been genetically modified.

[Guest guest]

Keep us posted .We'll get there yet!Still up for the race to the top of

the stairs?Janet

To: mscured

From: alpdesigns1@...

Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 02:07:33 +0000

Subject: Re: The other side

My Functional Neurologist recommended an adrenal product called Adrenal

Rebuilder by . It's a glandular supplement without the hormones. I

have since read 's book " Adrenal Fatigue: The 21st Century Stress

Syndrome " and I have employed a few of his ideas (sea salt in water, no fruit at

breaskfast, smaller but more frequent meals, etc.). The salt helps remove

excess potassium from the kidneys and, as an electrolyte, charges the brain to

muscle response. It's also helping settle my electrical field down! My

keyboard is not as static and it's not like a ouija board anymore! This is new

to me and I don't know if the results are real or caused by innervation.

>

> There are some interesting comments and observations on the epidemic

thyroid-adrenal dysfunction in modern society,

[Guest guest]

I don't eat processed food and for the last few months I haven't eaten grains.

I think I need to add a few whole grains back into my diet. I also considered

adding eggs back because I want to use coconut flour and it takes eggs to make

bread out of it. I'm making sourdough bread right now using rice flour and

quinoa. It's my first loaf and it will be ready to bake later today. Water

kefir is the starter. I'm very conscious of my diet but I do cheat once in

awhile!

>

> I was going to suggest 's book " Adrenal Fatigue " . Glad you have it and

have read it. 5 points for you! It certainly makes one aware of the

synchronisity of the entire endrocine gland system. I did the whole program for

6 months.>

[Guest guest]

You betcha!

>

>

Still up for the race to the top of the stairs?Janet

[Guest guest]

>

>I think I need to add a few whole grains back into my diet. I also considered

adding eggs back because I want to use coconut flour and it takes eggs to make

bread out of it. I'm making sourdough bread right now using rice flour and

quinoa. It's my first loaf and it will be ready to bake later today. Water

kefir is the starter. ... but I do cheat once in awhile!

>

I'm still trying to figure out the difference between verboten grains and

allowed seeds. You plant a rice grain and it grows just like when you plant a

sunflower seed. ... I eat eggs and a occasionally legumes, both confirmed " no

problem " by testing. I think being rigid is the worst thing I could do, so I

experiment to see what works for ME. Good for you, . " Experimentation " is

not " cheating. "

Martha

[Guest guest]

My bread turned out well but I think it needs some salt. I have been off of ALL

grains, nuts and seeds so adding them in one at a time should give me a more

accurate picture of what effects me negatively (only I used two and neither of

them caused a reaction...so far). I just ate a small piece. I cheated with

dark chocolate! My doc approved Coconut Secret sugar substitute and I got it

today.

[Guest guest]

There are vegan egg substitutes that work well for making bread. I'm trying to

remember what I used when I was vegan. DH is the MS patient. Just like instead

of oil you can use unsweetened apple sauce. I tend to use rice flour for any

batter/breading of foods. We are working on getting him off all scripts

(including those for diabetes). So far with food and exercise he is gaining

strength on his left side and is improving.

http://vegetarian.about.com/od/vegetarianvegan101/f/eggsubstitute.htm is a nice

site about what to use where. HTH

take care

Donna in SC (was VA)

" Stress is the confusion created when one's mind overrides the body's basic

desire to choke the living daylights out of some jerk who desperately deserves

it. "

--Unknown

>To: mscured

>Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:47 AM

>Subject: Re: The other side

>

>

> 

>I don't eat processed food and for the last few months I haven't eaten grains.

I think I need to add a few whole grains back into my diet. I also considered

adding eggs back because I want to use coconut flour and it takes eggs to make

bread out of it. I'm making sourdough bread right now using rice flour and

quinoa. It's my first loaf and it will be ready to bake later today. Water kefir

is the starter. I'm very conscious of my diet but I do cheat once in awhile!

>

>

>>

>> I was going to suggest 's book " Adrenal Fatigue " . Glad you have it and

have read it. 5 points for you! It certainly makes one aware of the

synchronisity of the entire endrocine gland system. I did the whole program for

6 months.>

[Guest guest]

Some of the egg substitutes are fake food but some seeds (flax and chia) form

gelatinous membranes when soaked in water and they might work to bind the flour

together. Flax also contains some hormone-like substances that may not be good

for my adrenal glands. Eggs never bothered me before (I used free-range eggs)

but I'm cautious of trying them now. I may just stick to gluten-free sourdough

for awhile. I'm glad your husband is doing better! Thanks,

>

> There are vegan egg substitutes that work well for making bread. I'm trying to

remember what I used when I was vegan. DH is the MS patient. Just like instead

of oil you can use unsweetened apple sauce. I tend to use rice flour for any

batter/breading of foods. We are working on getting him off all scripts

(including those for diabetes). So far with food and exercise he is gaining

strength on his left side and is improving.

[Guest guest]

It was February that I officially started eating nut, grain and seed-free. I got

a newsletter from my doctor explaining why he wanted me to do it (other than the

one line explanation that it was cross reactive that he sent me earlier). He

said that my leaky gut needed to heal or else the large protein containing

particles in those foods would continue passing through the porous lining of my

intestine and my immune system would attack them. Eating them again is a test

since there isn't a medical test that addresses this. I have to go slow but

there are some benefits in eating these things and not eating them could be

harmful to my health. Fiber in a diet is necessary for the elimination of

waste.

> >

> > I was going to suggest 's book " Adrenal Fatigue " . Glad you have it and

have read it. 5 points for you! It certainly makes one aware of the

synchronisity of the entire endrocine gland system. I did the whole program for

6 months.>

[Guest guest]

Hi to you all, I hope this finds you well. Please read the attached article on

gluten and video done by a doctor diagnosed with MS who REVERSED the disease

thru diet. Dr. Mercola's site has more info on MS as well.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/12/23/overcoming-multipl\

e-sclerosis-through-diet.aspx

http://www.naturalnews.com/035224_gluten_nervous_system_brain_damage.html

[Guest guest]

There are plenty of 'MS' Diets which can help us all - we should choose the one

which helps us and best matches OUR individual dietary needs.

Wahls has been good for some which is great, it just doesn't fit with my

individual needs. I stick to the BBD.

Each of us just have to choose our own way through it all.

Ensuring we get the right nutrients into us is always the best way to start -

remember to get an intolerance test done though!

'What we do in life, echoes through eternity.'

MARCUS AURELIUS (121 - 180 A.D.)

To: mscured

From: indigomagic69@...

Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:32:57 -0700

Subject: Re: The other side

Hi to you all, I hope this finds you well. Please read the attached

article on gluten and video done by a doctor diagnosed with MS who REVERSED the

disease thru diet. Dr. Mercola's site has more info on MS as well.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/12/23/overcoming-multipl\

e-sclerosis-through-diet.aspx

http://www.naturalnews.com/035224_gluten_nervous_system_brain_damage.html

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