Re: Deprivation and sugar addiction

[Guest guest]

Demarc, I was always also a bit suspicious

of this basic IE principle, but it actually

IS true. Just this week, for instance, for

some strange reason I've been craving sweets,

which is weird because sweet has never been

my issue (for me it's carbs, pasta, etc).

Anyway, so this week I've actually had a few

MEALS that consisted almost entirely of

" forbidden " food and sweets. Here it is

Friday and I'd just KILL for a big ol' salad!

Guess my body had it's little detour into

the world of sweet, got it's fill and decided

enough.

[Guest guest]

You said " Wouldn't you, by eating a lot of junk, develop more of a

taste for it? " I don't think so. I just finished a pms/bingey

week and I am craving fruit salad. LOL!

You said " I really think it is ok to feel a little deprived

sometimes. " I think perhaps you are still hanging on to a diet

mentality? I never feel deprived. I simply don't allow it. If I

want something, I eat it. No strings attached. I find that most of

the time I only eat part of what I wanted, say a cheeseburger and

fries. I end up eating only half and being totally satisfied.

Since starting IE a couple of years ago I find that now I rarely eat

sweets anymore except for smooth, rich dark chocolate. IE has made me

a food snob. LOL! Life is too short to eat something I don't truly

enjoy.

Good luck on your IE journey!

Cassie

>

>

> I have a question. I know in the book " Intuitive Eating " it says that

> it's ok to eat crap at first - eventually you won't like it anymore

> and be able to pass it up. At one point in my life I really didn't

> eat rich foods at all, and then when I tried a piece of cake it tasted

> ridiculously rich. Wouldn't you, by eating a lot of junk, develop

> more of a taste for it? Sodium and refined sugar are often said to be

> " addictive " to some extent. I really think it is ok to feel a little

> deprived sometimes. The feeling passes, after all.

>

[Guest guest]

I will attest to being MUCH better around sweets than I was before I

started IE. Right now I have several different types of chocolate

candies that I couldn't resist buying marked down after the holidays.

I consumed the first bag in the old yum-yum-eat-'em-up fashion (pre

IE), but the rest are now pretty much sitting there for me to have one

or two when I feel the 'urge'. And what is it now, like mid January?

That has to be a RECORD for me to have NOT eaten these like a squirrel

tucking away food for the winter. Plus the wild part is that those

that I found I really don't like much, I just am NOT eating. Who would

have thought?!?

Yea IE!! - ehugs, Katcha

>

> Demarc, I was always also a bit suspicious

> of this basic IE principle, but it actually

> IS true. Just this week, for instance, for

> some strange reason I've been craving sweets,

> which is weird because sweet has never been

> my issue (for me it's carbs, pasta, etc).

> Anyway, so this week I've actually had a few

> MEALS that consisted almost entirely of

> " forbidden " food and sweets. Here it is

> Friday and I'd just KILL for a big ol' salad!

> Guess my body had it's little detour into

> the world of sweet, got it's fill and decided

> enough.

>

[Guest guest]

Sugar Addiction:Wow, thanks for the responses! To me it really does seem logical that one might develop more of a taste for sweet foods after eating them more, but I guess if so many people have found otherwise it must not be the case.

Deprivation:I guess I feel momentarily deprived if I go past a bakery, or something, and there is some yummy cookies in the window and I pass by without going in. But it doesn't feel like a huge deprivation, or anything, I just decide I don't need it. If later I still feel like I want to indulge than I will. I think most people must do this.

Meg

[Guest guest]

This makes so much sense. There are tabus on almost every food in some way or another, don't eat that it has too much sugar, those are empty calories, if you restrict this this and this you are guaranteed to lose x amount of weight BUT don't lose too quickly or it's unhealthy, it goes on and on. I like the thinking that if you mentally allow yourself to eat whatever you want without guilt or stigma, we probably won't want half of what we do or "crave". I LOVE this group!!

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[Guest guest]

It IS really hard to retrain our " diet thinking " - I still struggle with this. Like- right now I'm eating a bowl of cereal, and I'm already thinking- " where is the protein- I need more- this isnt balanced eating " - but if I'm craving a bowl of cereal, that's what I should eat!

This makes so much sense. There are tabus on almost every food in some way or another, don't eat that it has too much sugar, those are empty calories, if you restrict this this and this you are guaranteed to lose x amount of weight BUT don't lose too quickly or it's unhealthy, it goes on and on. I like the thinking that if you mentally allow yourself to eat whatever you want without guilt or stigma, we probably won't want half of what we do or " crave " . I LOVE this group!!

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[Guest guest]

Hear, hear! My sentiments exactly.

Blue

----- Original Message ----- This makes so much sense. There are tabus on almost every food in some way or another, don't eat that it has too much sugar, those are empty calories, if you restrict this this and this you are guaranteed to lose x amount of weight BUT don't lose too quickly or it's unhealthy, it goes on and on. I like the thinking that if you mentally allow yourself to eat whatever you want without guilt or stigma, we probably won't want half of what we do or "crave". I LOVE this group!!

[Guest guest]

OMG Me too!!!!

I have a Target bag filled with chocolates sitting in

my closet (away from my grubby boys, LOL) and I

haven't even gone in there to get it! I am feeling

the urge in the past day or two so I'll probably have

to go grab a piece or two but I've been doing so much

better.

--- Katcha wrote:

> I will attest to being MUCH better around sweets

> than I was before I

> started IE. Right now I have several different types

> of chocolate

> candies that I couldn't resist buying marked down

> after the holidays.

> I consumed the first bag in the old

> yum-yum-eat-'em-up fashion (pre

> IE), but the rest are now pretty much sitting there

> for me to have one

> or two when I feel the 'urge'. And what is it now,

> like mid January?

> That has to be a RECORD for me to have NOT eaten

> these like a squirrel

> tucking away food for the winter. Plus the wild part

> is that those

> that I found I really don't like much, I just am NOT

> eating. Who would

> have thought?!?

>

> Yea IE!! - ehugs, Katcha

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[Guest guest]

I'm a little late with this answer, and I know you've had a lot of good info and answers, but I wanted to just confirm that what they say in the IE book is true. You need to let yourself eat those things that you have previously deprived yourself of and know it's ok in order to be able to eat them in moderation or only when you really want them. A clue to me that you haven't truly legalized all foods is that you call some of these foods "crap". It's been my experience that it feels like sugar is addictive, but when I eat it only when I want it, and only in moderation (meaning I don't eat it until I feel sick), I have no problem. The next time I want to eat, I usually want something like fruit or veges, or protein. It's just my body's way of balancing things out. If you let it, it will establish the balance. Just give it time, take a leap of faith, and keep hanging out here. You're going to do just fine!

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From: IntuitiveEating_Support [mailto:IntuitiveEating_Support ] On Behalf Of demarcate.thisSent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:58 PMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Deprivation and sugar addiction

Today was a good day. I worked out for an hour and made brownies. Ifeel sort of sacreligious making brownies from a vegan cookbook withcow milk, but since I am no longer vegan and there was no soymilk inthe house...what's an ex-vegan to do?I have a question. I know in the book "Intuitive Eating" it says thatit's ok to eat crap at first - eventually you won't like it anymoreand be able to pass it up. At one point in my life I really didn'teat rich foods at all, and then when I tried a piece of cake it tastedridiculously rich. Wouldn't you, by eating a lot of junk, developmore of a taste for it? Sodium and refined sugar are often said to be"addictive" to some extent. I really think it is ok to feel a littledeprived sometimes. The feeling passes, after all.