Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 I think I can relate somewhat. I think the best approach is to take IE stuff as guiding principles as opposed to " rules " ; sort of take an IE approach to IE, if you will. You don't *have* to do anything, remember. I.E. does suggest guidelines when it comes to eating, etc. but if you have been perpetually making rules for yourself in the past it is hard not to meld I.E. into the " form " of a diet even if the " content " is different from most diets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Hey Katcha, Sounds like you've got some of that trying to turn IE into a diet stuff going on, which is common. Remember that everything you do in IE is your choice. You have a choice to honor your hunger and fullness or not. It's all up to you, and either decision is ok, just make it your decision, not some external rule. Does that help? Thanks!GillianGillian Hood-son, MS, ACSMHealthier OutcomesIt's not just about losing weight! Want to eat your favorite foods without gaining weight? Get your copy of our fr*e special report, "6 Simple Steps to Guilt Free Eating" by visiting http://www.healthieroutcomes.com From: IntuitiveEating_Support [mailto:IntuitiveEating_Support ] On Behalf Of KatchaSent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:15 PMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Aha moment The other day I had an flash of insight into a 'what' that is drivingme to rebel when it comes to eating and ANY rules for it. I do NOT like being 'limited'. I never liked being told I couldn't dosomething or that I couldn't do as I thought best etc. So along comesIE with its 'no rules' policy. Has GREAT appeal to me of course, butafter doing legalization and being relieved to be calm around any andall foods, I am still not honoring my hunger most times. And of coursethis has meant that I have retained the same 40# that I wouldn't mindseeing go their own merry ways. So what is it about IE that is causing me to 'rebel'?!? Well being'limited' of course! IE does suggest that we honor our own INTERNALlimits (aka hunger/satisfaction) and I am still reacting as if I ambeing 'dictated to'. So I've been pondering this and starting to seeif I can and will allow myself to TRUST myself as well as HONOR thelimits I need internally. Its a real surprise to find that I am in myown way :-0 OH MY! Katcha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Thanks for the feedback Gillian. I do ponder what is going on with me as I realize that I am not utilizing IE principles to my best advantage. I know and feel deeply the CHOICE factors, but it seem I retain a little 'gremlin' (aka diet demon?!? LOL) that I must be allowing to direct me to ignore (rebel) against paying attention to my hunger/satisfaction levels. I've managed to ditch the 'good food-bad food' labels so eat what I want when I want. But I also remain on 'auto pilot' when it comes to eating. Focusing, really tasting and noticing textures etc. = 'boring' or seems that I could only do that if I was blindfolded and in a totally (other) sensory deprived environment! Its a very old pattern for me to enjoy meal times in the company of those around the table. Incorporating breaking my attention from the people to the food and back again seems to be the challenge? Plus adding in an awareness 'monitor' for satisfaction, as I eat, goes out the window if I get engaged in an interesting conversation. Old habits die HARD. (The only way to have a change is to make a change . . . . and being aware of that to be able to DO it too.) Vita ist labora. Katcha > > Hey Katcha, > > Sounds like you've got some of that trying to turn IE into a diet stuff > going on, which is common. Remember that everything you do in IE is your > choice. You have a choice to honor your hunger and fullness or not. It's all > up to you, and either decision is ok, just make it your decision, not some > external rule. Does that help? > > Thanks! > Gillian > > Gillian Hood-son, MS, ACSM > Healthier Outcomes > It's not just about losing weight! > > > Want to eat your favorite foods without gaining weight? > > Get your copy of our fr*e special report, " 6 Simple Steps to Guilt Free > Eating " by visiting http://www.healthieroutcomes.com > <http://www.healthieroutcomes.com/> > > > _____ > > From: IntuitiveEating_Support > [mailto:IntuitiveEating_Support ] On Behalf Of Katcha > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:15 PM > To: IntuitiveEating_Support > Subject: Aha moment > > > > The other day I had an flash of insight into a 'what' that is driving > me to rebel when it comes to eating and ANY rules for it. > > I do NOT like being 'limited'. I never liked being told I couldn't do > something or that I couldn't do as I thought best etc. So along comes > IE with its 'no rules' policy. Has GREAT appeal to me of course, but > after doing legalization and being relieved to be calm around any and > all foods, I am still not honoring my hunger most times. And of course > this has meant that I have retained the same 40# that I wouldn't mind > seeing go their own merry ways. > > So what is it about IE that is causing me to 'rebel'?!? Well being > 'limited' of course! IE does suggest that we honor our own INTERNAL > limits (aka hunger/satisfaction) and I am still reacting as if I am > being 'dictated to'. So I've been pondering this and starting to see > if I can and will allow myself to TRUST myself as well as HONOR the > limits I need internally. Its a real surprise to find that I am in my > own way :-0 OH MY! > > Katcha > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Katcha wrote: >The other day I had an flash of insight into a 'what' that is driving >me to rebel when it comes to eating and ANY rules for it. > >I do NOT like being 'limited'. I never liked being told I couldn't do >something or that I couldn't do as I thought best etc. So along comes >IE with its 'no rules' policy. Has GREAT appeal to me of course, but >after doing legalization and being relieved to be calm around any and >all foods, I am still not honoring my hunger most times. > Katcha, how are you not honoring your hunger? Are you not eating when you're hungry? Waiting until you're too hungry? Eating more than what you're hungry for? The more I explore IE, the more I'm convinced there are as many journeys and paths as there are participants. So what do you want from yourself and eating? Geneen Roth suggests that " trust develops when you learn from actual experience that you can decide which desires to act upon and which to leave to fantasy. " This idea helps me when I'm dealing with the rules/no rules bit. Hope it helps you. Good luck, fellow anti-dieting rebel! Alison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Alison, I am not ignoring your excellent questions, but rather giving them good consideration and thought. I'll post a reply when I have answers I want and need to share. Thanks for them! ehugs, Katcha > > >The other day I had an flash of insight into a 'what' that is driving > >me to rebel when it comes to eating and ANY rules for it. > > > >I do NOT like being 'limited'. I never liked being told I couldn't do > >something or that I couldn't do as I thought best etc. So along comes > >IE with its 'no rules' policy. Has GREAT appeal to me of course, but > >after doing legalization and being relieved to be calm around any and > >all foods, I am still not honoring my hunger most times. > > > Katcha, how are you not honoring your hunger? Are you not eating when > you're hungry? Waiting until you're too hungry? Eating more than what > you're hungry for? > > The more I explore IE, the more I'm convinced there are as many journeys > and paths as there are participants. So what do you want from yourself > and eating? > > Geneen Roth suggests that " trust develops when you learn from actual > experience that you can decide which desires to act upon and which to > leave to fantasy. " This idea helps me when I'm dealing with the rules/no > rules bit. Hope it helps you. > > Good luck, fellow anti-dieting rebel! > Alison > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 No worries, Katcha. The questions aren't something I expected answered. Just offered them as food for thought for you. Kind of stirring the pot and seeing what rises! hugs, Alison Katcha wrote: Alison, I am not ignoring your excellent questions, but rather giving them good consideration and thought. I'll post a reply when I have answers I want and need to share. Thanks for them! ehugs, Katcha The other day I had an flash of insight into a 'what' that is driving me to rebel when it comes to eating and ANY rules for it. I do NOT like being 'limited'. I never liked being told I couldn't do something or that I couldn't do as I thought best etc. So along comes IE with its 'no rules' policy. Has GREAT appeal to me of course, but after doing legalization and being relieved to be calm around any and all foods, I am still not honoring my hunger most times. Katcha, how are you not honoring your hunger? Are you not eating when you're hungry? Waiting until you're too hungry? Eating more than what you're hungry for? The more I explore IE, the more I'm convinced there are as many journeys and paths as there are participants. So what do you want from yourself and eating? Geneen Roth suggests that "trust develops when you learn from actual experience that you can decide which desires to act upon and which to leave to fantasy." This idea helps me when I'm dealing with the rules/no rules bit. Hope it helps you. Good luck, fellow anti-dieting rebel! Alison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Katcha, I hope you find a way to ease your back pain that is right for you! A long time ago, there was a yoga show on PBS by Priscilla . What I remember was that her yoga seemed very gentle. She does sell videos, although some of the covers look scary for a non-yoga type! Good luck with your back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Double thanks to you two darlings. It is dawning on me that I really must be distracted by the discomfort and that is probably the main reason I haven't been as 'true' to IE as I want to be. (Hince weight gain instead of loosing) DUH!! But as Alana noted - one can and does learn to tolerate which is another form of ignoring, or at least trying to ;-) Aha moment again Katcha > It must be very stressful being in pain, feeling limited and trying > to " love yourself " and do IE at the same time. > That's quite a bit going on. > I don't think you're whining at all. > > > > > Take care my dear. > > > Alana > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Thanks for your sweet encouragement. I am learning Pilates which has elements of yoga in it. Guess this old dog is learning new tricks (and maybe a new 'twist' [snap crackle and pop!] or two too :) Katcha > > Katcha, I hope you find a way to ease your back pain that is right for > you! A long time ago, there was a yoga show on PBS by Priscilla > . What I remember was that her yoga seemed very gentle. She does > sell videos, although some of the covers look scary for a non-yoga type! > Good luck with your back. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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