Candida and ms

[Guest guest]

There have been a lot of emails on here today so probably a bad time to add

another and expect responses, but I have another question for anybody who might

be able to help.

I have suffered with unexplained digestive problems for a while (bloating, sharp

pains in my upper left abdomen and various places, back pain, constipation,

malabsorption) and before my dx about 2 months ago, I became convinced my

problem was down to candida. I had lots of antibiotics as a child, my mum worked

in a dental surgery while she was pregnant with me, I get reccuring bouts of

thrush, several positive saliva tests and several other things that fitted with

that theory. Since my dx I have learnt there may be a link between candida and

ms which backed up my thoughts even more. I asked my gastroenterologist what his

thoughts were on candida and he didn't really have anything to say on that. On

the same visit I was discharged.

I am currently trying the candida diet (as best as I can) but also making a

concious effort to kind of stay along the lines of the wahl diet too. Lots of

diet advice for candida/ms is contradictory, some is identical so at least it's

good to know I am doing some things right for both. I am also taking some good

supplements and coconut oil 3 times a day. To be honest I am finding it pretty

stressful so If anyone has any advice on helping candida with ms it would be

much appreciated.

Thanks, e

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[Guest guest]

Hi e,

I got the following information from another group and thought it might be

helpful to you.

For those taking Nystatin for yeast overgrowth. Nystatin cannot get

to the yeast in the bloodstream. So if yeast has gotten into the

bloodstream you will have to use an anti-yeast diet or an anti-fungal

like diflucan that can get to the yeast in the bloodstream. LDN can

perform poorly if one has an abundance of candida yeast. If LDN

suddenly stops working for you, the 1st culprit I'd investigate is

candida yeast overgrowth, men, women and children can get this,

candida yeast does not discriminate.

Yeast Free Diet - Getting the Yeast Under Control

A yeast free diet – or an anti-yeast diet – is one that is intended

to inhibit the overgrowth of yeasts within the body, promoting health

and well-being. Over the course of two to six weeks, the yeast free

diet can make a radical difference in the way a person feels and and

in the overall health of the body.

Causes of Yeast Infections

There are hundreds of species of yeast in the world, found on

virtually every organic surface. Of these, six are commonly found in

or on the human body. One species in particular, Candida albicans, is

very common in the moist areas of our bodies: inside the mouth, the

digestive tract, the urinary tract, and the vaginal canal. Most of

the time, the other microorganisms in our systems – primarily

bacteria – feed on the yeast and keep its growth in check. However,

when something throws off the balance between bacteria and yeast,

Candida can get wildly out of control. What upsets the balance? When

you take antibiotics to fight off harmful bacteria, you'll find the

good bacteria which feed on yeasts are just as susceptible to antibiotics as the

bad ones you are trying to kill. Birth control pills and cortisone medication

can also affect relative levels of

bacterial colonization, as can fatigue, stress, or anything else that

weakens our immune system.

Symptoms and complications

Usually the worst symptom we suffer from the assault of drugs upon

our useful bacteria is a couple of days of diarrhea, but if the surviving

bacteria don't build back up to a healthy balance quickly,

yeast can gain a foothold and cause a widespread overgrowth. In the

mouth, this is called " thrush " ; in the vagina, it is called " vaginitis " or

" candidiasis " (or simply a " yeast infection " ),

but when candidiasis occurs in the digestive tract, it can remain

invisible or misdiagnosed for weeks or months, while causing a

variety of uncomfortable symptoms, including constipation, bloating

and gas. It can cause a person to feel full even when they haven't

eaten a sufficient number of calories, and since it can also

interfere with the extraction of nutrients from the food a person

does eat, fatigue, low energy and hunger headaches can be common.

Yeast infections usually remain localized upon a moist surface, but

in prolonged cases the yeast can shift to a fungal form which sinks

root-like rhizoids under the surface of the mucosa. This usually

happens invisibly within the intestinal tract, and when it does,

toxins and other substances which are normally prevented from

penetrating the surface of the intestinal lining are given a route to

invade the rest of the body, causing " leaky gut syndrome " .

This systemic infection can give rise to a wide variety of symptoms

on its own, such as thrush, vaginitis, diarrhea, rectal inflammation,

flatulence, bladder inflammation, and even worse, it can start

triggering the body's immune system to act against itself. This can

lead to fatigue, muscle and joint pain, dizziness, respiratory

problems, menstrual problems, eczema, acne, hives, psoriasis,

insomnia, irritability and other system-wide immunological reactions

which seem far removed from the source of the problem.

A further complication is known as " invasive candidiasis "

or " candidemia " , which occurs when yeast or yeast toxins enter the

bloodstream, usually as an aftermath of injury or surgery. Yeast

infection in the blood causes fever and chills that are unresponsive

to antibiotics, and can spread to kidneys, liver, spleen, joints or

eyes, causing additional damage.

Altering your diet

One of the most important steps you can take in combating recurring

or systemic yeast infections is to alter your diet to deprive the

yeast of sustenance by starting a yeast free diet. Processed, sugary

foods are almost designed to promote yeast growth, and it's

imperative to adapt the body to a more healthy style of eating if

recurring or systemic infections are to be defeated. A yeast free

diet can help start a person on a path to feeling healthy and well.

To eliminate yeast, you need to remove the sugars they feed upon. The

most important foodstuffs to avoid are those containing yeasts and

molds themselves, sugar, dairy products, and fermented foods, as well

as starchy and alcoholic substances that break down into sugars.

Foods to avoid on a yeast free diet

Yeasty foods:

Breads, rolls, cookies, pastries, pretzels and other bready foods

Vinegar, and foods which contain it, like mayonnaise, salad dressing,

barbecue sauce, mustard, pickles and pickled foods.

Wine, beer and spirits

Fermented foods and beverages like sauerkraut or cider

Moldy foods:

All cheese

Dried, smoked or pickled meats

Cured bacon

Mushrooms, peanuts, and pistachios

Soy sauce, miso, tamari, and tempeh

Malt

Pre-packaged herbs and teas

Canned tomatoes

Sugary foods:

Processed sugar (granulated, confectioner's, brown)

Grapes, raisins, dates, prunes and figs; citrus fruits

Fruit juices and dried fruits

Soft drinks and drink mixes

Honey and maple syrup

High-fructose corn syrup

Chocolate

Starchy foods:

Corn

Potatoes

That may seem like a lot of restrictions, and not leave you much to

shop for at the grocery store, but when you start to look at it like

this, it is amazing to see how much garbage we are used to putting

into our bodies every day. A yeast free diet in essence gets back to

the basics of natural unprocessed foods that are truly what the body

needs. However, you must be wondering what can you eat, with so many

common foods off limits? There are a great variety of healthy, tasty

foods left to choose from that do meet the yeast free diet criteria:

Vegetables, vegetables, and more vegetables, especially dark green

leafy ones

Beans, of any variety

Meat protein, including beef, poultry, fish and shellfish, and fresh

(uncured) pork

Eggs

Whole grains, including rice, barley, millet, couscous, and buckwheat

Whole grain oatmeal and pasta; rice or spelt pasta

Unprocessed seeds and nuts

Vegetable oils which are unrefined (the kind that must be

refrigerated)

Limited amounts of non-dried, non-citrus fruit

For best results, the yeast free diet should be followed strictly for

at least three to six weeks. In the first few weeks, the lack of food

can cause a massive die-off of yeast within the system.

Unfortunately, this has the effect of dumping many yeast toxins into

the intestinal and vaginal tracts, which can cause flu-like fatigue,

weakness and irritability. However, the body quickly rebounds as the

toxins are flushed from the system, and the yeast free diet provides

much greater short-term and long-term energy reserves.

Once your body has adjusted to the new diet, you will look and feel

much healthier. Although in order to maintain long term health and

prevent recurring yeast problems you should continue to avoid yeast,

sugar and dairy products, you can gradually add sparing amounts of

some of the other restricted foods back into your diet once the

initial phase of the yeast free diet is complete. Add only one new

food at a time, and track your body closely to see if that food

causes particular problems for your system.

You may also be able to find some helpful supplements through your

doctor or at your health food store. " Probiotics " , which are pills

with live beneficial bacteria, should be introduced during the yeast

free diet to help restore a more normal balance among your internal

flora, and there are also several natural non-toxic anti-fungal

agents.

A moderate exercise program can also help to improve your well-being.

A twenty-minute session of walking, swimming or other light exercise

two or three times a week is enough to make a difference, especially

if you do it outside in the sunshine and fresh air. Most importantly

is a conscious effort to maintain the health of the body through food

intake. By implementing a yeast free diet and making a conscious

effort to rely primarily on basic unprocessed foods the body will be

healthier and many of the undesirable symptoms of yeast overgrowth

will be gone.

[Guest guest]

Hi eYou could also look into this program

(http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/) and see how you can combinee it with

your chosen 'MS' diet. Bee's program has a HUGE amount of information too

explaining all the ins and outs of candida and systemic candida (which you may

be struggling with now after so long dealing with it). Hey, I'm no expert, but

her program makes sense to me.

See what you think! http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/

'What we do in life, echoes through eternity.'

MARCUS AURELIUS (121 - 180 A.D.)

> To: mscured

> From: binkieg@...

> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:12:38 -0700

> Subject: Re: Candida and ms

>

> Hi e, Get yourself a good probiotic and take it a couple times a day.

> Read up on probiotics and yeast infections. Probiotics are something I take

> everyday in pill form. Get the ones that have the most types of bacteria

> and have to be refrigerated. Binkie

[Guest guest]

Thank you all, I am so glad to have found this site. Lots of kind people willing

to share their experience and advice.

All the best

e

Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

Re: Candida and ms

>

> Hi e, Get yourself a good probiotic and take it a couple times a day.

> Read up on probiotics and yeast infections. Probiotics are something I take

> everyday in pill form. Get the ones that have the most types of bacteria

> and have to be refrigerated. Binkie