Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 What is interesting is that it is attracting and pulling metals into the water but repelling and sending out chlorine into the air probably through you lungs and skin. If you look at my other post about fluorine forming metal complexes with mercury, aluminum, beryllium etc. then perhaps this bath is breaking these bonds and pulling the metals out into the water. The fluorine or chlorine may then be free to be expelled out the skin or breath. Since they have a high electronnegativity they would not be attracted to the - ion water but repelled. Mercury binds to sulphydryl(sp?) groups and I believe Shefy said her water smelled like rotten eggs implying H2S. Perhapsd the bath pulled out some mercury then the sulphur bound to hydrogen. Like I said, my chemistry knowledge is basically zero but perhaps that is a blessing! I am trying to think of this in as simple terms as possible. Like charges repel and opposite charges attract. So heavy metals with their + charges are not the only problem to deal with. There is aslo the problem of unnatural - charges as well. Things like fluorine and chlorine. Since the water supply is bombarded with chlorine(-) as well as added fluoride(-) then I guess one can't simply point the finger at just the metals, both unnatural + charge(metals) and unnatural - charge(chlorine, fluorine) must be addressed. What I don't understand is why the metals are pulled out in a specific order? Why? Mercury, lead, arsenic, copper etc. are found all over the periodic table but come out in a specific order? I don't understand how the - ion pulling action of a foot bath or magnetic clay bath will pull out one metal then another in a specific order? Corey > > I LOVE these and believe in them completely. My autistic sons > (recovering) and I have used 3 machines. At our former > acupuncturist, we use an Ion Cleanse. It's great. The acupuncturist > first ran the machine and saved the resulting water in a glass jar. > She uses that jar for comparison purposes. All of our resulting > waters were different. My one son got a TON of black metal flecks > (which are supposed to be heavy metals). The acupuncturist was > shocked and thought the machine was broken (I knew better--the boy > is loaded with heavy metals) so she called the distributor who said > it was just the boy. When my shower filter brakes and I dont > immediately replace it, the entire room smells of chlorine when I > (and only I) do my foot bath at her office. As soon as I repair the > filter, the stench is gone. I think my issue there is related to all > of my competitive swimming years. > > At my naturopath's office, we use the BIocleanse machine and the Q2 > energy spa, both of which work a little differently. Here again, my > sons and I all get different results. My naturopath loves these > machines and swears by them. I am amazed at how much they've helped > us all. It's just one more aid to wellness. > > Maybe Arthur will come up with a cheaper version. > > Lorna > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 Please stop sending me ALL these e-mails. K.T. koyd24 <c_dyok@...> wrote: What is interesting is that it is attracting and pulling metals into the water but repelling and sending out chlorine into the air probably through you lungs and skin. If you look at my other post about fluorine forming metal complexes with mercury, aluminum, beryllium etc. then perhaps this bath is breaking these bonds and pulling the metals out into the water. The fluorine or chlorine may then be free to be expelled out the skin or breath. Since they have a high electronnegativity they would not be attracted to the - ion water but repelled. Mercury binds to sulphydryl(sp?) groups and I believe Shefy said her water smelled like rotten eggs implying H2S. Perhapsd the bath pulled out some mercury then the sulphur bound to hydrogen. Like I said, my chemistry knowledge is basically zero but perhaps that is a blessing! I am trying to think of this in as simple terms as possible. Like charges repel and opposite charges attract. So heavy metals with their + charges are not the only problem to deal with. There is aslo the problem of unnatural - charges as well. Things like fluorine and chlorine. Since the water supply is bombarded with chlorine(-) as well as added fluoride(-) then I guess one can't simply point the finger at just the metals, both unnatural + charge(metals) and unnatural - charge(chlorine, fluorine) must be addressed. What I don't understand is why the metals are pulled out in a specific order? Why? Mercury, lead, arsenic, copper etc. are found all over the periodic table but come out in a specific order? I don't understand how the - ion pulling action of a foot bath or magnetic clay bath will pull out one metal then another in a specific order? Corey > > I LOVE these and believe in them completely. My autistic sons > (recovering) and I have used 3 machines. At our former > acupuncturist, we use an Ion Cleanse. It's great. The acupuncturist > first ran the machine and saved the resulting water in a glass jar. > She uses that jar for comparison purposes. All of our resulting > waters were different. My one son got a TON of black metal flecks > (which are supposed to be heavy metals). The acupuncturist was > shocked and thought the machine was broken (I knew better--the boy > is loaded with heavy metals) so she called the distributor who said > it was just the boy. When my shower filter brakes and I dont > immediately replace it, the entire room smells of chlorine when I > (and only I) do my foot bath at her office. As soon as I repair the > filter, the stench is gone. I think my issue there is related to all > of my competitive swimming years. > > At my naturopath's office, we use the BIocleanse machine and the Q2 > energy spa, both of which work a little differently. Here again, my > sons and I all get different results. My naturopath loves these > machines and swears by them. I am amazed at how much they've helped > us all. It's just one more aid to wellness. > > Maybe Arthur will come up with a cheaper version. > > Lorna > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 Where does one buy one of those machines? > > I LOVE these and believe in them completely. My autistic sons > (recovering) and I have used 3 machines. At our former > acupuncturist, we use an Ion Cleanse. It's great. The acupuncturist > first ran the machine and saved the resulting water in a glass jar. > She uses that jar for comparison purposes. All of our resulting > waters were different. My one son got a TON of black metal flecks > (which are supposed to be heavy metals). The acupuncturist was > shocked and thought the machine was broken (I knew better--the boy > is loaded with heavy metals) so she called the distributor who said > it was just the boy. When my shower filter brakes and I dont > immediately replace it, the entire room smells of chlorine when I > (and only I) do my foot bath at her office. As soon as I repair the > filter, the stench is gone. I think my issue there is related to all > of my competitive swimming years. > > At my naturopath's office, we use the BIocleanse machine and the Q2 > energy spa, both of which work a little differently. Here again, my > sons and I all get different results. My naturopath loves these > machines and swears by them. I am amazed at how much they've helped > us all. It's just one more aid to wellness. > > Maybe Arthur will come up with a cheaper version. > > Lorna > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 well, ebay listings just about sold out of them (all dr clarks listers & lurkers must have bought them up this week) anyway you can put ionic foot bath in your search engine and you will get a bunch of them. All brands with a wide range of prices. tempo33x <tempo33x@...> wrote: Where does one buy one of those machines? --------------------------------- goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Hi, I'm curious what the recommended schedule is for ionic foot baths. I've heard it's best to detox at a slower pace than doing too much, overwhelming the body and allowing the toxins to circulate even more. Currently I have a colonic a week, and walk and rebound daily. I want to do the Far-Infared Saunas and Ionic Foot Baths but just wondering what your experiences have been. Thanks. - PH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Hi PH . . . Personally, I wouldn't do the ionic foot baths more than once every four days initially - then weekly. I can tell when I've overdone it because my Magnesium levels become depleted, then my feet start burning. . . If you notice burning, it's time to cut back. It's very important that you supplement with additional minerals when doing foot baths because the good comes out with the bad. www.ionicoasis.com has an excellent chart on minerals. Hugs, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Thanks for the info, Rogene. Fortunately the woman I go to for the foot baths gives me a mineral drink and an alpha lipoic acid capsule that I have to drink within 3 hours of the foot bath. I've been going every other day, 3 times a week. Maybe I should cut back. I am thinking of purchasing one for home though. My feet don't burn but my tongue has been burning lately...not sure what that's about. I don't have thrush and I take a methylcobalamin B-12 sublingual tab every day so it confuses me why it should burn. Would magnesium depletion cause that? I just came back from Whole Foods w/ my empty gelatin caps you suggested. I'm going to crush some garlic now! - PH > > Hi PH . . . > > Personally, I wouldn't do the ionic foot baths more than once every four days initially - then weekly. > > I can tell when I've overdone it because my Magnesium levels become depleted, then my feet start burning. . . If you notice burning, it's time to cut back. > > It's very important that you supplement with additional minerals when doing foot baths because the good comes out with the bad. > > www.ionicoasis.com has an excellent chart on minerals. > > Hugs, > > Rogene > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 PH, I don't know why your tongue may be burning . . . but you may want to see if anything here makes sense. http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient & aq=t & ie=UTF-8 & rls=HPIA,HPIA:2006-31,HPIA:en & q=burning+tongue+causes The place I took my first foot bath wouldn't do more than one a week. . . Recommendations for use run from every other day to every fourth day. Personally, I'd rather take my time than rush since I already have signs of Magnesium depletion. Rogene perfecthealth68 <perfecthealth68@...> wrote: Thanks for the info, Rogene. Fortunately the woman I go to for the foot baths gives me a mineral drink and an alpha lipoic acid capsule that I have to drink within 3 hours of the foot bath. I've been going every other day, 3 times a week. Maybe I should cut back. I am thinking of purchasing one for home though.My feet don't burn but my tongue has been burning lately...not sure what that's about. I don't have thrush and I take a methylcobalamin B-12 sublingual tab every day so it confuses me why it should burn. Would magnesium depletion cause that?I just came back from Whole Foods w/ my empty gelatin caps you suggested. I'm going to crush some garlic now! - PH>> Hi PH . . . > > Personally, I wouldn't do the ionic foot baths more than once every four days initially - then weekly.> > I can tell when I've overdone it because my Magnesium levels become depleted, then my feet start burning. . . If you notice burning, it's time to cut back.> > It's very important that you supplement with additional minerals when doing foot baths because the good comes out with the bad.> > www.ionicoasis.com has an excellent chart on minerals.> > Hugs,> > Rogene> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 PH, I think you'll find havin your own foot bath is far more convenient and economical than going out for them . . . If you'll make an "Offer" of $225 for the best Ionic Oasis foot bath on ebay, it will be accepted. (half their retail price). Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Wow, thanks. I'll do it. I think I've already shelled out that much in two weeks! - PH > > PH, > > I think you'll find havin your own foot bath is far more convenient and economical than going out for them . . . If you'll make an " Offer " of $225 for the best Ionic Oasis foot bath on ebay, it will be accepted. (half their retail price). > > Rogene > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 If you really search ebay, you'll find the home page for Ionic Oasis - but it's easier to just go to the page www.ionicoasis.com. Be sure to read everything! Rogeneperfecthealth68 <perfecthealth68@...> wrote: Wow, thanks. I'll do it. I think I've already shelled out that much in two weeks! - PH>> PH,> > I think you'll find havin your own foot bath is far more convenient and economical than going out for them . . . If you'll make an "Offer" of $225 for the best Ionic Oasis foot bath on ebay, it will be accepted. (half their retail price).> > Rogene> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 hi, was wondering if anyone has purchased one of these and if so, which are good -- anyone know? thanks, kate [ ] Re: auto-immune? One of my fellow Lyme friends says she has poor detox due to genetics. That is one component of how genetics plays a role in our overall health. > > > > I think that it is a combination of the organisms and each person's genetics and environment which is why no two people are exactly alike. > > yes, agree. This is similar to the conclusion in the book about autoimmune diseases. Too bad that the most of the normal medical community is oblivious to this, and that you have to go to alternative docs (or people completely outside the medical field) for advice. > > I agree about the genetic factor, but it seems a relatively weak factor compared to the other once. And with the current knowledge, genetic testing says very little anyway. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 I purchased one years ago via ebay. I have been to 4 or more doctor's offices where they offer this and used it some. I do not use it much now...for no reason other than I just don't. I do not know if one is better than another. The one I got looked just like the ones I used a the different doctor's offices. ________________________________ From: " Katenyc5@... " <Katenyc5@...> Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 10:39:28 AM Subject: Re: [ ] ionic foot baths hi, was wondering if anyone has purchased one of these and if so, which are good -- anyone know? thanks, kate [ ] Re: auto-immune? One of my fellow Lyme friends says she has poor detox due to genetics. That is one component of how genetics plays a role in our overall health. > > > > I think that it is a combination of the organisms and each person's genetics and environment which is why no two people are exactly alike. > > yes, agree. This is similar to the conclusion in the book about autoimmune diseases. Too bad that the most of the normal medical community is oblivious to this, and that you have to go to alternative docs (or people completely outside the medical field) for advice. > > I agree about the genetic factor, but it seems a relatively weak factor compared to the other once. And with the current knowledge, genetic testing says very little anyway. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 How much was the foot bath? I am interested in purchasing one some day. Of course I am broke now trying to come up with money for treatment. But I'm just curious. Did the water turn black? Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed [ ] Re: auto-immune? One of my fellow Lyme friends says she has poor detox due to genetics. That is one component of how genetics plays a role in our overall health. > > > > I think that it is a combination of the organisms and each person's genetics and environment which is why no two people are exactly alike. > > yes, agree. This is similar to the conclusion in the book about autoimmune diseases. Too bad that the most of the normal medical community is oblivious to this, and that you have to go to alternative docs (or people completely outside the medical field) for advice. > > I agree about the genetic factor, but it seems a relatively weak factor compared to the other once. And with the current knowledge, genetic testing says very little anyway. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Hi, I have the ion cleanse. It was more expensive than some other models, but I felt it was safe. Be careful of some units. They can be dangerous and short out. AMD ioncleanse has a site and it compares other brands. Of course it is their site so I am not surprised that they come out on top, but i do know that they are a reputable company. I have had success with the foot bath. I used to get a huge detox rxn off of it, but I built up slowly. My eyes would clear after a treatment. Ion cleanse has since come out with more affordable units so it is worth checking out. I have not used mine lately out of laziness. I hate having to dump the sludgy water afterwards. I always end up slopping it on the floor. I did try doing in in a stainless steel sink, but i think the stainless caused a reaction and made the arrays go bad faster. Hope this helps. Peggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 My son used one at our chiropractor's office, not sure what brand; but he felt it helped him to detox. At least he felt better after doing it, did it weekly for at least a month or so, can't remember. > > > > > > I think that it is a combination of the organisms and each person's genetics and environment which is why no two people are exactly alike. > > > > yes, agree. This is similar to the conclusion in the book about autoimmune diseases. Too bad that the most of the normal medical community is oblivious to this, and that you have to go to alternative docs (or people completely outside the medical field) for advice. > > > > I agree about the genetic factor, but it seems a relatively weak factor compared to the other once. And with the current knowledge, genetic testing says very little anyway. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Oh, I paid less than $150.00. I think it was about $125. I would post a bid, then when someone else got it, i usually got an offer to get it at the price I bid. So I told a friend this and she did the same thing and got one also for about $125. I am not sure what they are running for now. ________________________________ From: Sonya Putnam <sonyafly@...> Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 1:29:45 PM Subject: Re: [ ] ionic foot baths How much was the foot bath? I am interested in purchasing one some day. Of course I am broke now trying to come up with money for treatment. But I'm just curious. Did the water turn black? Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed [ ] Re: auto-immune? One of my fellow Lyme friends says she has poor detox due to genetics. That is one component of how genetics plays a role in our overall health. > > > > I think that it is a combination of the organisms and each person's genetics and environment which is why no two people are exactly alike. > > yes, agree. This is similar to the conclusion in the book about autoimmune diseases. Too bad that the most of the normal medical community is oblivious to this, and that you have to go to alternative docs (or people completely outside the medical field) for advice. > > I agree about the genetic factor, but it seems a relatively weak factor compared to the other once. And with the current knowledge, genetic testing says very little anyway. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Not everyone's water turns black. Mine turned orange, with a green center - rather pretty, I thought. We looked on the chart. It said bile detox. I have no idea if the chart is accurate.- Robin [ ] Re: auto-immune? One of my fellow Lyme friends says she has poor detox due to genetics. That is one component of how genetics plays a role in our overall health. > > > > I think that it is a combination of the organisms and each person's genetics and environment which is why no two people are exactly alike. > > yes, agree. This is similar to the conclusion in the book about autoimmune diseases. Too bad that the most of the normal medical community is oblivious to this, and that you have to go to alternative docs (or people completely outside the medical field) for advice. > > I agree about the genetic factor, but it seems a relatively weak factor compared to the other once. And with the current knowledge, genetic testing says very little anyway. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 This was in a newsletter about the ion foot bath detox. http://dietickdie.com/ionic-foot-baths-cleanse/ <http://dietickdie.com/ionic-foot-baths-cleanse/> Then Klinghardt mentions it in his writings. http://emf.mercola.com/sites/vitalvotes/archive/2009/07/23/Dr-Klinghardt\ s-Treatment-of-Lyme-Disease.aspx <http://emf.mercola.com/sites/vitalvotes/archive/2009/07/23/Dr-Klinghard\ ts-Treatment-of-Lyme-Disease.aspx> Perch > > My son used one at our chiropractor's office, not sure what brand; but he felt it helped him to detox. At least he felt better after doing it, did it weekly for at least a month or so, can't remember. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Try running the bath without even placing your feet in it. Then think about why its still changing colors and how effective it might really be? > [ ] Re: auto-immune? > > One of my fellow Lyme friends says she has poor detox due to > genetics. That is one component of how genetics plays a role > in our overall health. > > > > > > > > I think that it is a combination of the organisms and > each person's genetics and environment which is why no two > people are exactly alike. > > > > yes, agree. This is similar to the conclusion in the book > about autoimmune diseases. Too bad that the most of the > normal medical community is oblivious to this, and that you > have to go to alternative docs (or people completely outside > the medical field) for advice. > > > > I agree about the genetic factor, but it seems a relatively > weak factor compared to the other once. And with the current > knowledge, genetic testing says very little anyway. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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