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Welcome Debbi!!!!SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. Subject: New memberTo: MSersLife Date: Sunday, June 28, 2009, 5:52 PMI have a lady in the breast cancer group that also has MS. Her name is Debbi and I gave her the info to join the group. Hugsnne------------------------------------

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Welcome Debbi!!!!SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. Subject: New memberTo: MSersLife Date: Sunday, June 28, 2009, 5:52 PMI have a lady in the breast cancer group that also has MS. Her name is Debbi and I gave her the info to join the group. Hugsnne------------------------------------

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Welcome to the group Debbi!

Jolie

> Welcome Debbi!!!!

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> Sharon

> This email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling

> and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to

> be considered flaws or defects.

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> Subject: New member

> To: MSersLife

> Date: Sunday, June 28, 2009, 5:52 PM

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> I have a lady in the breast cancer group that also has MS. Her name is Debbi

> and I gave her the info to join the group.

> Hugs

> nne

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Welcome to the group Debbi!

Jolie

> Welcome Debbi!!!!

>

> Sharon

> This email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling

> and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to

> be considered flaws or defects.

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>

> Subject: New member

> To: MSersLife

> Date: Sunday, June 28, 2009, 5:52 PM

>

> I have a lady in the breast cancer group that also has MS. Her name is Debbi

> and I gave her the info to join the group.

> Hugs

> nne

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Welcome to the group Debbi!

Jolie

> Welcome Debbi!!!!

>

> Sharon

> This email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling

> and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to

> be considered flaws or defects.

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>

> Subject: New member

> To: MSersLife

> Date: Sunday, June 28, 2009, 5:52 PM

>

> I have a lady in the breast cancer group that also has MS. Her name is Debbi

> and I gave her the info to join the group.

> Hugs

> nne

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Welcome back!

When I am stressed by some other disease I find it hard to keep my sugars on

an even keel. so I guess your husband can just try to stay with the best

diet, etc. until his shingles are over with. Stress like that can make your

sugars go the way they are with him.

Dean

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| BlankHi friends, My name is Nan and I have been on this list a couple of

years ago. I have macular degeneration.

| My husband Del has diabetes and has had it for twenty years. He also has a

bad heart and has a defibrular. Also he now has shingles.

| I wanted to rejoin this list because I thought I could get some help with

helping Del at this difficult time. Because of the pain he has with shingles

his sugar goes way up and then way down.

| His eyesight is getting worse also.

| Del is 75 and I am 70.

| any advice and information would be appreciated.

| Nan

| Exercise daily, Walk with the Lord

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Welcome back!

When I am stressed by some other disease I find it hard to keep my sugars on

an even keel. so I guess your husband can just try to stay with the best

diet, etc. until his shingles are over with. Stress like that can make your

sugars go the way they are with him.

Dean

new member

| BlankHi friends, My name is Nan and I have been on this list a couple of

years ago. I have macular degeneration.

| My husband Del has diabetes and has had it for twenty years. He also has a

bad heart and has a defibrular. Also he now has shingles.

| I wanted to rejoin this list because I thought I could get some help with

helping Del at this difficult time. Because of the pain he has with shingles

his sugar goes way up and then way down.

| His eyesight is getting worse also.

| Del is 75 and I am 70.

| any advice and information would be appreciated.

| Nan

| Exercise daily, Walk with the Lord

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Hi Nan, good to have you here.

sugar

When you can't put your prayers into words

, God hears your heart.

~Be Blessed, Sugar

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BlankHi friends, My name is Nan and I have been on this list a couple of years

ago. I have macular degeneration.

My husband Del has diabetes and has had it for twenty years. He also has a bad

heart and has a defibrular. Also he now has shingles.

I wanted to rejoin this list because I thought I could get some help with

helping Del at this difficult time. Because of the pain he has with shingles his

sugar goes way up and then way down.

His eyesight is getting worse also.

Del is 75 and I am 70.

any advice and information would be appreciated.

Nan

Exercise daily, Walk with the Lord

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Hi Nan, good to have you here.

sugar

When you can't put your prayers into words

, God hears your heart.

~Be Blessed, Sugar

new member

BlankHi friends, My name is Nan and I have been on this list a couple of years

ago. I have macular degeneration.

My husband Del has diabetes and has had it for twenty years. He also has a bad

heart and has a defibrular. Also he now has shingles.

I wanted to rejoin this list because I thought I could get some help with

helping Del at this difficult time. Because of the pain he has with shingles his

sugar goes way up and then way down.

His eyesight is getting worse also.

Del is 75 and I am 70.

any advice and information would be appreciated.

Nan

Exercise daily, Walk with the Lord

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Hi again, Nan,

Your husband has multiple overlapping conditions (the heart issues and the

shingles), and his blood sugars may well be influenced by both stress (mental

and physical) and biological factors due to his medical problems. We don't know

if he is type 1 (on insulin) or type 2 (on oral medications). If he is on

insulin, perhaps he can take some additional quick acting insulin like Humalog.

Is he (are you) checking his blood sugars at least somewhat regularly?

Dave

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concerning BARD. Join the online discussion list, and discover many other

resources to help make your digital talking book experience more enjoyable!

new member

BlankHi friends, My name is Nan and I have been on this list a couple of years

ago. I have macular degeneration.

My husband Del has diabetes and has had it for twenty years. He also has a bad

heart and has a defibrular. Also he now has shingles.

I wanted to rejoin this list because I thought I could get some help with

helping Del at this difficult time. Because of the pain he has with shingles his

sugar goes way up and then way down.

His eyesight is getting worse also.

Del is 75 and I am 70.

any advice and information would be appreciated.

Nan

Exercise daily, Walk with the Lord

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Hi again, Nan,

Your husband has multiple overlapping conditions (the heart issues and the

shingles), and his blood sugars may well be influenced by both stress (mental

and physical) and biological factors due to his medical problems. We don't know

if he is type 1 (on insulin) or type 2 (on oral medications). If he is on

insulin, perhaps he can take some additional quick acting insulin like Humalog.

Is he (are you) checking his blood sugars at least somewhat regularly?

Dave

Visit: http://www.bardtalk.com and find answers to commonly asked questions

concerning BARD. Join the online discussion list, and discover many other

resources to help make your digital talking book experience more enjoyable!

new member

BlankHi friends, My name is Nan and I have been on this list a couple of years

ago. I have macular degeneration.

My husband Del has diabetes and has had it for twenty years. He also has a bad

heart and has a defibrular. Also he now has shingles.

I wanted to rejoin this list because I thought I could get some help with

helping Del at this difficult time. Because of the pain he has with shingles his

sugar goes way up and then way down.

His eyesight is getting worse also.

Del is 75 and I am 70.

any advice and information would be appreciated.

Nan

Exercise daily, Walk with the Lord

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Hi Dave, Del has type 2 and and takes 25 units of insulin every evening

with his meal. I know our daughter who is a nurse tells him to take the

insulin after he eats.

Del takes his sugar reading every day and more when he is feeling really

bad. And he tries to take it several different times

of the day.

He now has to have tests for blood in his urine. Saw the doctor today. he

feels a little overwhelmed with everything that is happening to him.

Nan

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> BlankHi friends, My name is Nan and I have been on this list a couple of

> years ago. I have macular degeneration.

> My husband Del has diabetes and has had it for twenty years. He also has

> a bad heart and has a defibrular. Also he now has shingles.

> I wanted to rejoin this list because I thought I could get some help with

> helping Del at this difficult time. Because of the pain he has with

> shingles his sugar goes way up and then way down.

> His eyesight is getting worse also.

> Del is 75 and I am 70.

> any advice and information would be appreciated.

> Nan

> Exercise daily, Walk with the Lord

>

>

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Hi Dave, Del has type 2 and and takes 25 units of insulin every evening

with his meal. I know our daughter who is a nurse tells him to take the

insulin after he eats.

Del takes his sugar reading every day and more when he is feeling really

bad. And he tries to take it several different times

of the day.

He now has to have tests for blood in his urine. Saw the doctor today. he

feels a little overwhelmed with everything that is happening to him.

Nan

new member

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>

>

> BlankHi friends, My name is Nan and I have been on this list a couple of

> years ago. I have macular degeneration.

> My husband Del has diabetes and has had it for twenty years. He also has

> a bad heart and has a defibrular. Also he now has shingles.

> I wanted to rejoin this list because I thought I could get some help with

> helping Del at this difficult time. Because of the pain he has with

> shingles his sugar goes way up and then way down.

> His eyesight is getting worse also.

> Del is 75 and I am 70.

> any advice and information would be appreciated.

> Nan

> Exercise daily, Walk with the Lord

>

>

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Hi Dean, Thank you for the welcome. It seems that everyone is telling me the

same thing. I guess the important thing is to take his sugar several times

a day and eat accordingly.

Nan

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> | BlankHi friends, My name is Nan and I have been on this list a couple

> of

> years ago. I have macular degeneration.

> | My husband Del has diabetes and has had it for twenty years. He also has

> a

> bad heart and has a defibrular. Also he now has shingles.

> | I wanted to rejoin this list because I thought I could get some help

> with

> helping Del at this difficult time. Because of the pain he has with

> shingles

> his sugar goes way up and then way down.

> | His eyesight is getting worse also.

> | Del is 75 and I am 70.

> | any advice and information would be appreciated.

> | Nan

> | Exercise daily, Walk with the Lord

> |

> |

> |

> |

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Hi Dean, Thank you for the welcome. It seems that everyone is telling me the

same thing. I guess the important thing is to take his sugar several times

a day and eat accordingly.

Nan

new member

>

>

> | BlankHi friends, My name is Nan and I have been on this list a couple

> of

> years ago. I have macular degeneration.

> | My husband Del has diabetes and has had it for twenty years. He also has

> a

> bad heart and has a defibrular. Also he now has shingles.

> | I wanted to rejoin this list because I thought I could get some help

> with

> helping Del at this difficult time. Because of the pain he has with

> shingles

> his sugar goes way up and then way down.

> | His eyesight is getting worse also.

> | Del is 75 and I am 70.

> | any advice and information would be appreciated.

> | Nan

> | Exercise daily, Walk with the Lord

> |

> |

> |

> |

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-Hello and welcome

The links provided in this last post are a good place to start but I think it's

*CRITICAL* at this early stage of an MS diagnosis especially PPMS that you are

particularly focused on ruling out any other possibilities.  In the beginning

stages of identifying and treating MS I think many of us are and were sucked

into depending a great deal on the direction and recommendations of a

neurologist.  As we all know MS is very particular to each person and no one

treatment method should be expected to work the same for you as it did for

others whether it's conventional, alternative, holistic or whatever the case.

I'll say from personal experience that I was misdiagnosed with RRMS 5 yrs ago.

 I don't know if my RRMS is not MS at all or if it's MS induced by my *Lyme

Disease* going untreated for so long,  I say two things with a strong sense of

certainty.  I don't have RRMS.  If anything MS related it's SPMS that was

induced by untreated  Lyme Disease and Conventional meds DID NOT work for me.  I

think that last bit can be echoed by every member in here.  I implore you to

urge your husband to follow-up ANY previous testing with an IgeneX Lyme Disease

test ASAP.  

Tread very lightly in trusting a Neurologist.  Unfortunately your inexperience

with MS is a green light for any nuro, MD, etc to pool you into a particular

diagnosis and therapy choice based on symptoms, MRI imaging or Spinal Tap

reports.  LYME DISEASE MIMIKS MS   & ALL MS MARKERS.  I personally think that

PPMS or SPMS is very easily a lasting or Chronic Lyme infection.  You need to be

sure and treat the right thing.  With the exception of having Lyme Disease these

remarks are all my opinion.

Best Wishes,

Mike

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hello and wel

The links provided in this last post are a good place to start but I think it's

*CRITICAL* at this early stage of an MS diagnosis especially PPMS that you are

particularly focused on ruling out any other possibilities.  In the beginning

stages of identifying and treating MS I think many of us are sucked into

depending a great deal on the direction and recommendations of a neurologist.

 As we all know MS is very particular to each person and no one treatment method

should be expected to work the same for you as it did for others whether it's

conventional, alternative, holistic or whatever the case.

I'll say from personal experience that I was misdiagnosed with RRMS 5 yrs ago.

 I don't know if my RRMS is not MS at all or if it was induced by my *Lyme

Disease* going untreated for so long,  I say two things with a strong sense of

certainty.  I don't have RRMS.  If anything MS related it's SPMS that was

induced by untreated  Lyme Disease and Conventional meds DID NOT work for me.  I

think that last bit can be echoed by every member in here.  I implore you to

urge your husband to follow-up ANY previous testing with an IgeneX Lyme Disease

test ASAP.  

Tread very lightly in trusting a Neurologist.  Unfortunately your inexperience

with MS is a green light for any nuro, MD, etc to pool you into a particular

diagnosis and therapy choice based on symptoms and MRI imaging or Spinal Tap

reports.  LYME DISEASE MIMIKS MS   & MS MARKERS.  I personally think that PPMS or

SPMS is very easily a lasting or Chronic Lyme infection.  You need to be sure

and treat the right thing.  

Best Wishes,

Mike

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Hi ZoeHave you changed your diet at all?I felt better after I went onto the BBD

(Best Bet Diet). If you don't know much about it, go to www.msrc.co.uk or

www.direct-ms.orgIt has helped me hugely Supplements are a good start and you've

done well by the sounds of things.Fatigue left the building for me when I got

onto D3 at a 'high' dose - I'm at 5000IU these days an i's working well.I also

take B Complex and B12 to kick the tiredness. LDN is something you should look

at too - Low Dose Naltrexone. It's something which has helped me beyond masure

to kick the pain I had been experiencing each night. LDN's results can be

hampered by any Candida you may have in your system - I know hat's what has

stopped it doing all it can do for me.....I still have those issues as I believe

it is systemic in me. I hope I haven't given you a bunch of info that you

already know as you're a longtime member

'What we do in life, echoes through eternity.'

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To: mscured

From: zoehealthy@...

Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 18:43:36 -0700

Subject: RE: new member

Hi. I'd like to chime in here because I am not a new member but right now

I feel like one. I have tried so many things. For a while I felt like I was

staying stable --for about 3 or 4 years -- but now the last year I definitely

feel a decline in a number of areas. I am not interested in CCSVI for myself

personally but I am really interested in trying to figure out what are the most

important supplements. How does one know which supplements they need.

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Kim,

Unidentified bright objects seen on MRIs are often called " lesions " .

These pages explain " lesions " in layman's terms.

http://www.medhelp.org/health_pages/Multiple-Sclerosis/MS-Information-and-Resour\

ces-Index/show/22?cid=36

There is a section on Testing --- MRI's.

How MRIs Show Lesions in MS

Lesions vs. Symptoms

And another section for

Ruling Out the Diseases that Look Like MS

MS Mimics

And a third section farther down the page called

What We Know about Lesions

Lesions! Lesions Lesions!

Spinal Cord Lesions

Lesions - Can They Disappear? A Hypothetical Case Overview

KC

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> > From: Kim McMahon <kimmcdarr@>

> > Date: Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 11:16 PM

> > Subject: Re: Yahoo! Groups: Welcome to mscured. Visit today!

> > To: mscured Moderator <mscured-owner >

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> >

> > My daughter is a 26yr old Social Worker in Cleveland Oh. Last fall she

> > started complaining about dizziness and then got tingeling in her hands and

> > was very tired and run down. Went to family Dr when she also started having

> > headaches. She sent her to get MRI and it came back with a few white spots.

> > We then went to neurologist who wasnt impressed with the MRI. (I am still

> > not sure what that meant)we went back in 3 months got another MRI. She

> > still has all the symptoms, he says he is " Concerned " about the white spots

> > , but come back in 6 months and he wont commit to a diagnosis

> > We are curious about several things and the connection, or not? Before all

> > these symptoms showed up she had several out breaks of cold sores, and we

> > have heard about maybe a connection, she was also very sick before all this

> > with a strep and run down. As a baby she had thrush, I have read of some

> > connection with MS?Then I have read maybe some connection with Chocolate,

> > guess what she loves? The other day was kind of a good day and we went to

> > lunch had choc cake and half hr later she had weakness , numbing hands and

> > increased headache.

> > we are now going for a second opinion, but i fear the worst. She is very

> > interested in NOT taking medicine so we are exploring all options, vit D

> > magnesium, raw food, CoQ10 and anything

> > thanks for listening

> > Kim

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I just saw an allergist as I felt I was have a reaction to a medication. She

told me that 10 people could be tested for food allergens and 1/2 would come

back allergic to something. Out of those 5- 4 of them would be wrong. I

personally think its more of a go on your gut feeling. Cut out a food and see if

you improve. I feel better when I don't eat dairy or wheat. I feel very much in

pain when I have gluten. So for me I may test positive I may test negative for

gluten intolerance why risk it though. I know how it makes me feel.

Take care

Donna in VA

" Stress is the confusion created when one's mind overrides the body's basic

desire to choke the living daylights out of some jerk who desperately deserves

it. "

--Unknown

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>Hi. I'd like to chime in here because I am not a new member but right now I

feel like one. I have tried so many things. For a while I felt like I was

staying stable --for about 3 or 4 years -- but now the last year I definitely

feel a decline in a number of areas. I am not interested in CCSVI for myself

personally but I am really interested in trying to figure out what are the most

important supplements. How does one know which supplements they need. I do take

Vitamin D3 and my Vitamin D tests come back pretty good at about 60 where the

normal range is 30-100. I have been interested in possibly meeting with a

chelation specialist and getting tested for mercury poisoning because I was

overvaccinated in the past. However, I read so many scary stories about herx

reactions from chelation that it does scare me and a few times I took a small

dose of oral DMSA and I felt much more cognitively confused for the next few

days each time. Regarding the ELISA, I have

>now had it done five times over the past 6 years. Last year, just to see what

would happen, I had the blood drawn at the same time and sent to two different

labs--one blood speciment to Cambridge and the other specimen to York. Well

sorry to have to say this but even though it was the same blood draw the ELISA

results from each lab was extremely different, with only a little bit of

overlap. To me that pretty much washed away the validity of the ELISA testing,

because, again, this was taken from the same blood draw at the same exact time

(no eating in between, etc) and sent to two reputable labs with extremely

different results. I gave up on ELISA testing after that. However, I do notice I

feel much better when avoiding gluten, dairy, and eggs. Lately I am having a lot

of trouble falling alseep at night. I am very wired at night. I was diagnosed

with hypothyroidism 3 years ago and I take Naturethroid and my thyroid numbers

always come back normal now,

>but I don't feel normal. My brain fog and fatigue are the biggest problems,

followed by paresthesias of the limbs and also my vision has been deteriorating.

I am scared. I feel like I don't know what road to take. I made an appointment

with an extremely expnsive holistic MD but then I heard he was not too good, so

I canceled. I just feel right now like I don't have a plan, and I really need a

plan--a plan at least gives me hope. Thank you if anyone can comment on what I

should do. I fear that it is like the traditional view of MS that tries to tell

us we will go downhill in most cases and I used to not believe that, but now I

feel, at least for me, it is happening like that. Thank you for any suggestions.

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Hi Jen, Like you I have been digging and pushing mountains aside to find what

causes this and how to rectify it. I believe you are right, drugs are not the

answer, or at least not for me. Anti-inflammatory diet, detox,detox detox, and

targeted supplementation are working for me. I also fully completed my dental

revision 8 months ago. I do fall down occassionally when I forget to pay

attention, but that is getting better too.

   Soy, canola, corn, gluten, msg, gmo foods, and heavy metals are the primary

enemies. Coconut oil(research lauric acid) is your friend, as is cilantro,

parsley, squash, lemons, fresh young coconuts, and aloe vera. All fresh and of

course organic. Lots to learn. Research pertussis toxin and aloe vera as a

moderator of MS in mice. Research orotic acid and the remyelination of axonal

ganglia in rats and you won't wonder why I use magnesium orotate as my chioce of

magnesium supplement. Research the apoptic death of neurons due to the hardening

of their mitochondria and glutamate transfer defect and you will never touch msg

or any other excitotoxin. Don't forget that cream and burtter are ok in moderate

amounts,(for me), but milk contains butyrophilin which causes our immune system

to attack myelin. P.S. 4 weeks since I have used even one cane or crutch.

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Have you been tested for Lyme Disease through IgeneX?  Your initial symptoms

looked very similar to mine.  I went 6 yrs thinking I had MS only to find out

last August that I actually have Lyme Disease.  Now I'm not saying I don't have

the classic symptoms of MS (which are all mimicked by Lyme BTW).  I believe my

MS was induced by Lyme if it is MS at all.   Fact is chronic Lyme is extremely

difficult to recover from.  If it is Lyme in your case it would be a great idea

to find it out and begin therapy.

 I highly recommend Igenex labs, Good Luck..........

Mike  

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I 2nd MM's comments entirely, 100%. Randy

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> Have you been tested for Lyme Disease through IgeneX?  Your initial symptoms

looked very similar to mine.  I went 6 yrs thinking I had MS only to find out

last August that I actually have Lyme Disease.  Now I'm not saying I don't have

the classic symptoms of MS (which are all mimicked by Lyme BTW).  I believe my

MS was induced by Lyme if it is MS at all.   Fact is chronic Lyme is extremely

difficult to recover from.  If it is Lyme in your case it would be a great idea

to find it out and begin therapy.

>  I highly recommend Igenex labs, Good Luck..........

> Mike

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Can you send more information please. Email harj_sweet@...

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>Hi ,

>

>I would be interested to learn more about " the science " you've found on the

subject.

>

>Please tell.

>

>Cheers,

>

>Pinda

>

>

>

>>

>> Hello folks,

>>

>> I suffer from and am disabled by a mitochondrial disorder that shares many of

the symptoms of MS. There is much research that links MS to mitochondrial

dysfunction such as here:

>>

>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19607913

>>

>> I have recently tried a very simple therapy that has made a huge difference

in my life and, as the following study from Stanford suggests, could make as

much of a difference in yours:

>>

>> http://www.ctsaip.org/create-pdf.cfm?id=5893

>>

>> The therapy:

>> 5 mg of benadryl every 4 hours during the day. That's it, costs about $4.00

per month!

>>

>> I started this therapy due to revalations in a thread in a mito yahoo group I

moderate and have since ferreted out the info on how and why this works and

exactly what low doses of certain antihistimines are doing. A hint: it is

similar to LDN in function, but considerably more wide spectrum

>>

>> IF anyone is interested I will post on what prompted me to try this (the

revelations) and on all the science I've found on the subject (what, how, why).

>>

>> Folks this is being hidden, as it turns out this could be benificial in MANY

diseases, AND it doesn't require a prescription, AND it's cheap.

>>

>>

>>

>>

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OK

I need to rest my hands so I'll post tomorrow, probably too late for you Brits

tomorrow...sorry

> >>

> >> Hello folks,

> >>

> >> I suffer from and am disabled by a mitochondrial disorder that shares many

of the symptoms of MS. There is much research that links MS to mitochondrial

dysfunction such as here:

> >>

> >> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19607913

> >>

> >> I have recently tried a very simple therapy that has made a huge difference

in my life and, as the following study from Stanford suggests, could make as

much of a difference in yours:

> >>

> >> http://www.ctsaip.org/create-pdf.cfm?id=5893

> >>

> >> The therapy:

> >> 5 mg of benadryl every 4 hours during the day. That's it, costs about $4.00

per month!

> >>

> >> I started this therapy due to revalations in a thread in a mito yahoo group

I moderate and have since ferreted out the info on how and why this works and

exactly what low doses of certain antihistimines are doing. A hint: it is

similar to LDN in function, but considerably more wide spectrum

> >>

> >> IF anyone is interested I will post on what prompted me to try this (the

revelations) and on all the science I've found on the subject (what, how, why).

> >>

> >> Folks this is being hidden, as it turns out this could be benificial in

MANY diseases, AND it doesn't require a prescription, AND it's cheap.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

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