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I am on Micronor now and haven't noticed any reduce in milk supply or any

side effects, but I have only been on it for about a month now... so I don't

know what will happen.

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>Has anyone used 'MICRONOR' while breastfeeding? Did it interfer with

>your supply? and Did you have any kind of side effects while using it?

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>Thanks in advance,

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In a message dated 1/27/99 2:33:20 AM Eastern Standard Time,

chenille@... writes:

<< We were told to warn our patients that a side-effect of the pill was the

possibility of the first planned conception following its use had a higher

chance of miscarriage just from habit. That is why the suggestion of being

off the pill for 6 months before conceiving. >>

Interesting, I'd never heard this. This is what happened to me. Wow, the

things you learn ...

& Kylie, still nursing at 18 months!

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In a message dated 1/27/99 2:33:20 AM Eastern Standard Time,

chenille@... writes:

<< We were told to warn our patients that a side-effect of the pill was the

possibility of the first planned conception following its use had a higher

chance of miscarriage just from habit. That is why the suggestion of being

off the pill for 6 months before conceiving. >>

Interesting, I'd never heard this. This is what happened to me. Wow, the

things you learn ...

& Kylie, still nursing at 18 months!

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In a message dated 1/26/99 11:11:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,

SineTenLbs@... writes:

<< << and the method of contraception is making a fertilized egg

unable to implant in the uterine lining. >>

, are you sure about the mini pill making it so that a fertilized egg

doesn't implant to the uterine lining? >>

Yes, I'm sure. The estrogen is what prevents your body from ovulating.

Progestin disrupts the uterine lining " in case " the estrogen fails. That's

why there is a higher risk of pregnancy with the mini-pill vs. the combination

pill.

& Kylie, still nursing at 18 months!

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In a message dated 1/26/99 11:11:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,

SineTenLbs@... writes:

<< << and the method of contraception is making a fertilized egg

unable to implant in the uterine lining. >>

, are you sure about the mini pill making it so that a fertilized egg

doesn't implant to the uterine lining? >>

Yes, I'm sure. The estrogen is what prevents your body from ovulating.

Progestin disrupts the uterine lining " in case " the estrogen fails. That's

why there is a higher risk of pregnancy with the mini-pill vs. the combination

pill.

& Kylie, still nursing at 18 months!

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Wow, if I had known that about the mini pill. I never would have taken it. I

was just told that it was the same as the other pill just with out the

estrogen. I'm glad it didn't work for me and I wasn't on it for even a month.

Next time I will make sure I ask more questions about the pill if I ever use

them again.

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Wow, if I had known that about the mini pill. I never would have taken it. I

was just told that it was the same as the other pill just with out the

estrogen. I'm glad it didn't work for me and I wasn't on it for even a month.

Next time I will make sure I ask more questions about the pill if I ever use

them again.

Somer

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Wow, if I had known that about the mini pill. I never would have taken it. I

was just told that it was the same as the other pill just with out the

estrogen. I'm glad it didn't work for me and I wasn't on it for even a month.

Next time I will make sure I ask more questions about the pill if I ever use

them again.

Somer

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Hi everyone,

I introduced myself before, MArie, but I had asked a question and REALLY

want to know the answer. forgive me if it is on my digest of the group

(before I changed over). BUt it is about the baggy skin, my mom is seriously

baggy, she did not have this exact surgery but not called the same thing. She

said one Dr. said a year later- " most of these include the extra skin removal

in the price " . Hers did not. Does anyone have experience/problems...I keep

thinking at 31 I should still have some elasticity left in this skin but with

rapid loss I worry some. Would appriciate any news, and if it is a snesitive

issue you could private e-mail me. This is a major concern for me even

considering it.

Thanks, MArie

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Hi everyone,

I introduced myself before, MArie, but I had asked a question and REALLY

want to know the answer. forgive me if it is on my digest of the group

(before I changed over). BUt it is about the baggy skin, my mom is seriously

baggy, she did not have this exact surgery but not called the same thing. She

said one Dr. said a year later- " most of these include the extra skin removal

in the price " . Hers did not. Does anyone have experience/problems...I keep

thinking at 31 I should still have some elasticity left in this skin but with

rapid loss I worry some. Would appriciate any news, and if it is a snesitive

issue you could private e-mail me. This is a major concern for me even

considering it.

Thanks, MArie

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Marie-

The younger you are and the more you exercise, the less problem you will have

with saggy skin. I lost 150 lbs about 12 years ago on the Rice Diet and I

exercised all the time and had very little sagging. I expect the same this

time. At any rate, you don't want to worry about it until much further down

the road. Give yourself some time to see what happens. Exercise is the key.

Katy

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Me too! I'd rather have the loose skin than it be puffed up with fat!!!!!

Pat E

> Re: question...

>

>

> >From: HotENuf1@...

> >

> >

> >Hi everyone,

> >

> > I introduced myself before, MArie, but I had asked a question

> and REALLY

> >want to know the answer. forgive me if it is on my digest of the group

> >(before I changed over). BUt it is about the baggy skin, my mom is

> seriously

> >baggy, she did not have this exact surgery but not called the same thing.

> She

> >said one Dr. said a year later- " most of these include the extra skin

> removal

> >in the price " . Hers did not. Does anyone have

> experience/problems...I keep

> >thinking at 31 I should still have some elasticity left in this skin but

> with

> >rapid loss I worry some. Would appriciate any news, and if it is a

> snesitive

> >issue you could private e-mail me. This is a major concern for me even

> >considering it.

> >Thanks, MArie

> >

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I'm starting to notice the baggy skin and I'm only half way to my goal.

It's especially bad under my arms. I know that a lot of people choose to

have plastic surgery to remove the excess skin. I'm 37 and hope, like you,

that my skin won't look too awful, but even if it does....I had this surgery

primarily for the health benefits and so I'd rather live long and happily

with flabby underarms than die you'd with 150 pounds of excess fat.

Everyone

is different. You'll just have to wait and see how you do. I would think

that toning exercises couldn't hurt tho'. Anyway....these are just my .02

worth. Take care. :)

Merritt

Re: question...

>From: HotENuf1@...

>

>

>Hi everyone,

>

> I introduced myself before, MArie, but I had asked a question and REALLY

>want to know the answer. forgive me if it is on my digest of the group

>(before I changed over). BUt it is about the baggy skin, my mom is

seriously

>baggy, she did not have this exact surgery but not called the same thing.

She

>said one Dr. said a year later- " most of these include the extra skin

removal

>in the price " . Hers did not. Does anyone have experience/problems...I keep

>thinking at 31 I should still have some elasticity left in this skin but

with

>rapid loss I worry some. Would appriciate any news, and if it is a

snesitive

>issue you could private e-mail me. This is a major concern for me even

>considering it.

>Thanks, MArie

>

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0

: :

: :

: :

loose skin Fat

---------------

(scale)

hmmm....I don't know, for some reason I am being vain! I see my mom, she

says she looks like an anorexic plucked chicken! LOL, we roll laughing-she

has a great sense of humor of herself. But health wise I KNOW you all are

right about the skin thing. ;)

You know, I have this other delima, I know it will be at least a year before

I can really do this. I am currantly fighting a blood clot in my leg from

inactivity due to my re-ruptured disk....so as I lay in bed this morning I

think. Ok, I have a year...do I try (really, honestly try) to do some

heallthy eating, and mild excersize, and lets say that works I lose 40 to

50lbs. and then in 5 yrs. I gain it back..then I will be 37 and have my

weight back plus more most likely and back where I started-I almost want to

just wait and go for this :) I look in the mirror and wonder that my size 22

is morbidly obese (by medical standards) I don't think I eat out of control

on a regular bases, and yet I have always been heavier than a normal (whoever

that is)person. Not huge just " big boned " Why don't I feel like I should be

able to do this for me? I am on a rollercoaster of emotion and hope and

fright!

I really admire you all making your desicions, whatever they were. I just

feel like someone is dangling a $100 bill out there and going to tug it away

at any moment.

Keep me on earth you guys!! :)

Marie

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Aren't we all going through that same dilemma? Be it a week, a month, or a

year...we wonder " do I try the old way AGAIN? Have I done all I can do?

Maybe I'm just not trying hard enough. Maybe I don't have enough

willpower. " How many times have we played out this scenario, done the

diet/exercise/pill routine, and wound up worse off in the long run? I think

to myself, what if I was looking at at least a year definitely before I

could have this surgery, what would I do? I would probably live the way

I've been living, and if I made any changes it would be to incorporate

exercise into my lifestyle and try to cut out foods that are really bad for

my health (i.e. junk foods). If I lose weight doing this, great, I'll feel

better at least for the time being and I don't have the danger of undergoing

the surgery. If I regain it somewhere down the line, at least, hopefully, I

wouldn't have to wait another year before being able to have the surgery.

My feeling is, we have to draw the line somewhere. Of course there's that

scarce possibility that my body will change when I turn 30 (or 40), and I'll

lose weight. But what damage will I have caused my health in the meantime?

It's a very tough decision. Do I have the surgery or not? Maybe this new

eating plan will work this time. Maybe this and maybe that. For me,

personally, I've had enough. I've spent 22 of my 27 years being fat and not

myself. I've spent 19 of my 27 years trying every way possible to lose

weight and keep it off. I cannot begin to add up the physical and emotional

costs I have endured directly caused by my weight. I've spent most of my

life fighting against the words of my 3rd grade PE coach (a man) who told me

" that fat body makes such a pretty face go to waste, when are you going to

do something about it. " I'm tired of crying myself to sleep and wondering

" why me? " I'm tired of it all!

Hon, only you can make the decision that you can live with. But once you

make that decision, stick with it all the way through! We've got to reach

the other side, one way or the other...surgery or no surgery. Let's not

let society tell us we just aren't good enough!

Re: question...

>From: HotENuf1@...

>

>

> 0

> : :

> : :

> : :

> loose skin Fat

>

> ---------------

> (scale)

>

>hmmm....I don't know, for some reason I am being vain! I see my mom, she

>says she looks like an anorexic plucked chicken! LOL, we roll laughing-she

>has a great sense of humor of herself. But health wise I KNOW you all are

>right about the skin thing. ;)

>You know, I have this other delima, I know it will be at least a year

before

>I can really do this. I am currantly fighting a blood clot in my leg from

>inactivity due to my re-ruptured disk....so as I lay in bed this morning I

>think. Ok, I have a year...do I try (really, honestly try) to do some

>heallthy eating, and mild excersize, and lets say that works I lose 40 to

>50lbs. and then in 5 yrs. I gain it back..then I will be 37 and have my

>weight back plus more most likely and back where I started-I almost want to

>just wait and go for this :) I look in the mirror and wonder that my size

22

>is morbidly obese (by medical standards) I don't think I eat out of control

>on a regular bases, and yet I have always been heavier than a normal

(whoever

>that is)person. Not huge just " big boned " Why don't I feel like I should

be

>able to do this for me? I am on a rollercoaster of emotion and hope and

>fright!

>I really admire you all making your desicions, whatever they were. I just

>feel like someone is dangling a $100 bill out there and going to tug it

away

>at any moment.

>Keep me on earth you guys!! :)

>Marie

>

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Aren't we all going through that same dilemma? Be it a week, a month, or a

year...we wonder " do I try the old way AGAIN? Have I done all I can do?

Maybe I'm just not trying hard enough. Maybe I don't have enough

willpower. " How many times have we played out this scenario, done the

diet/exercise/pill routine, and wound up worse off in the long run? I think

to myself, what if I was looking at at least a year definitely before I

could have this surgery, what would I do? I would probably live the way

I've been living, and if I made any changes it would be to incorporate

exercise into my lifestyle and try to cut out foods that are really bad for

my health (i.e. junk foods). If I lose weight doing this, great, I'll feel

better at least for the time being and I don't have the danger of undergoing

the surgery. If I regain it somewhere down the line, at least, hopefully, I

wouldn't have to wait another year before being able to have the surgery.

My feeling is, we have to draw the line somewhere. Of course there's that

scarce possibility that my body will change when I turn 30 (or 40), and I'll

lose weight. But what damage will I have caused my health in the meantime?

It's a very tough decision. Do I have the surgery or not? Maybe this new

eating plan will work this time. Maybe this and maybe that. For me,

personally, I've had enough. I've spent 22 of my 27 years being fat and not

myself. I've spent 19 of my 27 years trying every way possible to lose

weight and keep it off. I cannot begin to add up the physical and emotional

costs I have endured directly caused by my weight. I've spent most of my

life fighting against the words of my 3rd grade PE coach (a man) who told me

" that fat body makes such a pretty face go to waste, when are you going to

do something about it. " I'm tired of crying myself to sleep and wondering

" why me? " I'm tired of it all!

Hon, only you can make the decision that you can live with. But once you

make that decision, stick with it all the way through! We've got to reach

the other side, one way or the other...surgery or no surgery. Let's not

let society tell us we just aren't good enough!

Re: question...

>From: HotENuf1@...

>

>

> 0

> : :

> : :

> : :

> loose skin Fat

>

> ---------------

> (scale)

>

>hmmm....I don't know, for some reason I am being vain! I see my mom, she

>says she looks like an anorexic plucked chicken! LOL, we roll laughing-she

>has a great sense of humor of herself. But health wise I KNOW you all are

>right about the skin thing. ;)

>You know, I have this other delima, I know it will be at least a year

before

>I can really do this. I am currantly fighting a blood clot in my leg from

>inactivity due to my re-ruptured disk....so as I lay in bed this morning I

>think. Ok, I have a year...do I try (really, honestly try) to do some

>heallthy eating, and mild excersize, and lets say that works I lose 40 to

>50lbs. and then in 5 yrs. I gain it back..then I will be 37 and have my

>weight back plus more most likely and back where I started-I almost want to

>just wait and go for this :) I look in the mirror and wonder that my size

22

>is morbidly obese (by medical standards) I don't think I eat out of control

>on a regular bases, and yet I have always been heavier than a normal

(whoever

>that is)person. Not huge just " big boned " Why don't I feel like I should

be

>able to do this for me? I am on a rollercoaster of emotion and hope and

>fright!

>I really admire you all making your desicions, whatever they were. I just

>feel like someone is dangling a $100 bill out there and going to tug it

away

>at any moment.

>Keep me on earth you guys!! :)

>Marie

>

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Aren't we all going through that same dilemma? Be it a week, a month, or a

year...we wonder " do I try the old way AGAIN? Have I done all I can do?

Maybe I'm just not trying hard enough. Maybe I don't have enough

willpower. " How many times have we played out this scenario, done the

diet/exercise/pill routine, and wound up worse off in the long run? I think

to myself, what if I was looking at at least a year definitely before I

could have this surgery, what would I do? I would probably live the way

I've been living, and if I made any changes it would be to incorporate

exercise into my lifestyle and try to cut out foods that are really bad for

my health (i.e. junk foods). If I lose weight doing this, great, I'll feel

better at least for the time being and I don't have the danger of undergoing

the surgery. If I regain it somewhere down the line, at least, hopefully, I

wouldn't have to wait another year before being able to have the surgery.

My feeling is, we have to draw the line somewhere. Of course there's that

scarce possibility that my body will change when I turn 30 (or 40), and I'll

lose weight. But what damage will I have caused my health in the meantime?

It's a very tough decision. Do I have the surgery or not? Maybe this new

eating plan will work this time. Maybe this and maybe that. For me,

personally, I've had enough. I've spent 22 of my 27 years being fat and not

myself. I've spent 19 of my 27 years trying every way possible to lose

weight and keep it off. I cannot begin to add up the physical and emotional

costs I have endured directly caused by my weight. I've spent most of my

life fighting against the words of my 3rd grade PE coach (a man) who told me

" that fat body makes such a pretty face go to waste, when are you going to

do something about it. " I'm tired of crying myself to sleep and wondering

" why me? " I'm tired of it all!

Hon, only you can make the decision that you can live with. But once you

make that decision, stick with it all the way through! We've got to reach

the other side, one way or the other...surgery or no surgery. Let's not

let society tell us we just aren't good enough!

Re: question...

>From: HotENuf1@...

>

>

> 0

> : :

> : :

> : :

> loose skin Fat

>

> ---------------

> (scale)

>

>hmmm....I don't know, for some reason I am being vain! I see my mom, she

>says she looks like an anorexic plucked chicken! LOL, we roll laughing-she

>has a great sense of humor of herself. But health wise I KNOW you all are

>right about the skin thing. ;)

>You know, I have this other delima, I know it will be at least a year

before

>I can really do this. I am currantly fighting a blood clot in my leg from

>inactivity due to my re-ruptured disk....so as I lay in bed this morning I

>think. Ok, I have a year...do I try (really, honestly try) to do some

>heallthy eating, and mild excersize, and lets say that works I lose 40 to

>50lbs. and then in 5 yrs. I gain it back..then I will be 37 and have my

>weight back plus more most likely and back where I started-I almost want to

>just wait and go for this :) I look in the mirror and wonder that my size

22

>is morbidly obese (by medical standards) I don't think I eat out of control

>on a regular bases, and yet I have always been heavier than a normal

(whoever

>that is)person. Not huge just " big boned " Why don't I feel like I should

be

>able to do this for me? I am on a rollercoaster of emotion and hope and

>fright!

>I really admire you all making your desicions, whatever they were. I just

>feel like someone is dangling a $100 bill out there and going to tug it

away

>at any moment.

>Keep me on earth you guys!! :)

>Marie

>

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Katy,

Thanks so much for your " strong " words. I know it is all true! :) I printed

this so I could read it when I was doubtful ! To keep me on track.

Marie

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Katy,

Thanks so much for your " strong " words. I know it is all true! :) I printed

this so I could read it when I was doubtful ! To keep me on track.

Marie

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> I have read where as a bunch of you have seen a RE to have your

> septum taken care of. Are they recommended? Or can a gyn. do the

> surgery?

A regular OB-GYN can do the surgery, but nobody really recommends it.

My own OB-GYN told me to find someone and gave me a referral to his

own teacher, an RE. The OB did not want to attempt resecting my

septum, which ran the full length of the uterus.

I don' think you really need referrals to reproductive docs half the

time, even with HMOs. You cuold always interview some likely

candidates . . . ask them how many resections they've done,

whatmethods, what results, etc.

Good luck!

Beth

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