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>I'm No. 27 on this list - only because you created the group while I was in

The Bahamas.

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>I'm Joyce (35) married to Phil (37). I have four children (8),

Alistair (6) (note the ish names), >Chloe (3) and Hannah (9 months

today). The last three were homebirths.

My DBs middle name is Alasdair....he is *always* having to spell it!

left to me our 2 would have been some combination of Fiona, Iona, Aidan,

Alasdair, .. you get the pic!!

but DH not keen on Celtic names (pure bred Sassenach that he is)

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My name is Kim and I am Experiences Register keeper and soon-to-be Branch

Librarian for Wallingford, Didcot and District Branch. I have two sons,

(who is 4 next month) and (who is 2.5 years old). DH is Colin, who

works at Didcot Power Station!

- Aha!! I did wonder on seeing the odd mention of Didcot whether anyone onlist

was associated with the Electricity Industry. I worked for 7 years for

CEGB/National Grid Company and still have withdrawal symptoms when looking at

high voltage tower lines (not pylons, please, we never called them that). One

member of my old office even went so far as to write an ode to a particular

design of transmission tower, acclaiming its beauty - sad or what?

Lesley Moor

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I noticed you were up late, too! I was about to see if you wanted to go to

'Chat' but thought you had gone to bed. I was up until about 3, I think,

trying to register with Freeserve's new free internet offers. yet, though.

Lesley

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what I like about it is the fact that I'm not the only one

playing puters in the middle of the night :-)))))

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I noticed you were up late, too! I was about to see if you wanted to go to

'Chat' but thought you had gone to bed. I was up until about 3, I think,

trying to register with Freeserve's new free internet offers. yet, though.

Lesley

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what I like about it is the fact that I'm not the only one

playing puters in the middle of the night :-)))))

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Lesley,

> I noticed you were up late, too! I was about to see if you

wanted to go to

> 'Chat' but thought you had gone to bed

I did....well, heard squeakings from the monitor so went up to

feed Verity before collapsing with extremely tired eyes from

staring at a screen for hours!!

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Lesley,

> I noticed you were up late, too! I was about to see if you

wanted to go to

> 'Chat' but thought you had gone to bed

I did....well, heard squeakings from the monitor so went up to

feed Verity before collapsing with extremely tired eyes from

staring at a screen for hours!!

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Lesley,

> I noticed you were up late, too! I was about to see if you

wanted to go to

> 'Chat' but thought you had gone to bed

I did....well, heard squeakings from the monitor so went up to

feed Verity before collapsing with extremely tired eyes from

staring at a screen for hours!!

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> I'm No. 27 on this list - only because you created the group while I was in

The Bahamas.

Oooh, lovely Joyce, where did you go? We went to the Bahamas for our honeymoon.

It was lovely!

> which has just arrived in the post) but live in Cincinnati, Ohio. I can only

attend virtual coffee mornings,

I should be joining you in a few months time when we move to Florida...yes the

move is back on due to the recent very unfortunate circumstances. So, any tips

for living in the US would be gratefully appreicated!

--

Mum to (aged 4, born a whopping 11lbs 6oz) and 2 angels 20/10/98 and

24/3/00

Farnborough, Hants

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> I'm No. 27 on this list - only because you created the group while I was in

The Bahamas.

Oooh, lovely Joyce, where did you go? We went to the Bahamas for our honeymoon.

It was lovely!

> which has just arrived in the post) but live in Cincinnati, Ohio. I can only

attend virtual coffee mornings,

I should be joining you in a few months time when we move to Florida...yes the

move is back on due to the recent very unfortunate circumstances. So, any tips

for living in the US would be gratefully appreicated!

--

Mum to (aged 4, born a whopping 11lbs 6oz) and 2 angels 20/10/98 and

24/3/00

Farnborough, Hants

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> I'm No. 27 on this list - only because you created the group while I was in

The Bahamas.

Oooh, lovely Joyce, where did you go? We went to the Bahamas for our honeymoon.

It was lovely!

> which has just arrived in the post) but live in Cincinnati, Ohio. I can only

attend virtual coffee mornings,

I should be joining you in a few months time when we move to Florida...yes the

move is back on due to the recent very unfortunate circumstances. So, any tips

for living in the US would be gratefully appreicated!

--

Mum to (aged 4, born a whopping 11lbs 6oz) and 2 angels 20/10/98 and

24/3/00

Farnborough, Hants

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We went to Cable Beach just outside Nassau. It was really lovely, although

very expensive!

I'd be happy to give you tips for moving here. Let me know if you have any

specific questions. I'm on another list with a girl from the Tampa Bay area

who is moving to Virus City, Hampshire, as it happens - so may be able to

get you really accurate info.

Joyce

New! Bahamas photos:

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=170356 & a=5021598

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We went to Cable Beach just outside Nassau. It was really lovely, although

very expensive!

I'd be happy to give you tips for moving here. Let me know if you have any

specific questions. I'm on another list with a girl from the Tampa Bay area

who is moving to Virus City, Hampshire, as it happens - so may be able to

get you really accurate info.

Joyce

New! Bahamas photos:

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=170356 & a=5021598

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Clearwater!......can't wait! We have just ordered our 4x4 Ford Explorer for

when we get there!

Don't worry I will definitely be staying on onelist!

Love

ps...it's nice to be back in the world of the lists....I've missed you all!

> > I should be joining you in a few months time when we move to Florida

>

> Whereabouts in Florida? I've got relatives there.

>

>

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24/3/00

Farnborough, Hants

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Lesley, my BIL worked for CEGB man and boy, and only left when offered

voluntary redundancy. He now works for PowerGen (if they are still called

that) and I'm sure he has worked at Didcot Power Station from time to time.

Alison

Chair, Maidstone branch and PNDL trainee

>

> - Aha!! I did wonder on seeing the odd mention of Didcot whether anyone

onlist

> was associated with the Electricity Industry. I worked for 7 years for

> CEGB/National Grid Company and still have withdrawal symptoms when looking

at

> high voltage tower lines (not pylons, please, we never called them that).

One

> member of my old office even went so far as to write an ode to a

particular

> design of transmission tower, acclaiming its beauty - sad or what?

>

> Lesley Moor

>

>

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> trying to register with Freeserve's new free internet offers. yet,

though.

B*****, no-one has any internet deals that are any use if you are in this

neck of the woods, and use cable. Damn, blast and hell!

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Alison said..........., 23 months old today, who will probably stilled

be called Baby when he is 18 years old

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IKWYM! DD2 will probably be Baby Bea for ever and ever.

Lesley

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I was known as " The Bairn " until I was 19 years old - that's when my newborn

nephew took over.

Joyce

New! Bahamas photos:

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=170356 & a=5021598

> Alison said..........., 23 months old today, who will probably

stilled

> be called Baby when he is 18 years old

> --------

>

> IKWYM! DD2 will probably be Baby Bea for ever and ever.

> Lesley

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> - Aha!! I did wonder on seeing the odd mention of Didcot whether anyone

onlist

> was associated with the Electricity Industry. I worked for 7 years for

> CEGB/National Grid Company and still have withdrawal symptoms when looking

at

> high voltage tower lines (not pylons, please, we never called them that).

One

> member of my old office even went so far as to write an ode to a

particular

> design of transmission tower, acclaiming its beauty - sad or what?

>

> Lesley Moor

would you like to come up to Selby then, we have three power stations within

minutes of each other, as well as enough high voltage power lines (always

called pylons to us non elecies) to make anybody happy. I'm currently have a

nice protracted discussion with Nat Grid as they have one of their power

lines in the wrong place !

Curran

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> would you like to come up to Selby then, we have three power stations within

> minutes of each other, as well as enough high voltage power lines (always

> called pylons to us non elecies) to make anybody happy. I'm currently have a

> nice protracted discussion with Nat Grid as they have one of their power

> lines in the wrong place !

No thanks , I've got Littlebrook, Northfleet, Kingsnorth, Grain, West

Thurrock Power Stations, etc, etc near me with NGC and Area Board substations

next to the A2 at Northfleet with power lines converging from all over the

place. We've also got the tallest transmission towers in the country where a

line corsses the Thames from Northfleet (right next to DH's work) over to West

Thurrock(near Lakeside). Unfortunately, we're so well provided for re power

lines in this area, I don't think I'll ever see the L12 towers (those written

about in that ode) used here!

I'll just have to get back into the electricity industry again when I have more

time on my hands.

Lesley Moor

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IKWYM too - " Baby Tim " just sounds so right! Will it be " Toddler Tim " in a

year, I wonder?

Anneliese and Baby Tim

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Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 07:45:24 -0400

Subject: Re: Intro

I was known as " The Bairn " until I was 19 years old - that's when my newborn

nephew took over.

Joyce

New! Bahamas photos:

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=170356 & a=5021598

> Alison said..........., 23 months old today, who will probably

stilled

> be called Baby when he is 18 years old

> --------

>

> IKWYM! DD2 will probably be Baby Bea for ever and ever.

> Lesley

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Annie,Welcome to the group and thank you for being so willing to share your story and what you have been through. I don't think you could have said it better when you said the bypass didn't help with the heart hunger. That's what I have seen with pretty much everyone who has gone through the surgery. But I believe it has a place, and as you said it saved your life. But I applaud you for understanding there is so much more to this process than just the surgery.I know a physician that had the surgery and discovered the same thing, the emotional stuff isn't taken care of with surgery. I wish this was addressed more ahead of time, but maybe it will as we see patients gaining weight post-surgery because of the emotional stuff.Anyway, welcome! I would love to share this article with you and everyone here. It was written by the physician who had the surgery and I love the title, "They Didn't Staple My Brain". What a perfect title! http://www.bariatrictimes.com/displayArticle.cfm?articleID=030730-31_Patient

Thanks!

Gillian

Gillian Hood-son, MS,

ACSM

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>> Hi everyone.> > I just wanted to introduce myself.> > I have been heavy almost all my life. But looking back at those> pictures when I was a teen I sure don't look like the enormous slob I> thought I was or my family was telling me I was. I was afraid to ride> a horse when I was 16 because I thought at 150 pounds I would surely> hurt it. I had no idea then that at 5 ft 4" I was a average sized> woman. Living in a family obsessed with being thin which used shame> and manipulation to try and get me to loose weight really did a number> on my head for years. I tried a number of diets which I could stay on> for only 1-2 days because of the gigantic "FEED ME!" voice. Yeah, I> did fat camps too.> > I continued to gain weight, approximately 10 pounds a year for 20> years or so. A bad breakup followed by depression and hurting my back> eventually brought me up to 350 some pounds. In desperation, because> of some significant health problems like sleep apnea, really high> blood pressure, not being able to walk a few steps because of> crippling back pain and being short of breath led me to have gastric> bypass. Over a year I lost 120 pounds due to living on less than 500> calories a day. (BTW, I am not a math whiz so the numbers are not> precise.)> > Seven years later, still at 230 pounds. I don't have high blood> pressure, sleep apnea, or back pain (unless I sleep on a crappy> mattress) and the shortness of breath comes from walking up hill. > > I think the gastric bypass at the time saved my life. I don't regret> it because I was desperate and didn't know what to do. But, I have> paid for being starved for a year. My hair has thinned out. For a long> time I was in a weakened state, too weak to even go for a walk. I> still have a malabsorption problem so I must take supplements. I am> fortunate, though, in that in my surgery the surgeon was very> conservative and only bypassed the first portion of my intestines so I> have no where near the severity of problems or difficulties that other> people with weight loss surgery have had. My stomach can hold about a> cup of soft food.> > I have learned to eat frequent small meals to keep from falling into> that starvation mode again. I don't want to be in that place again. It> is not good for people be on such severe, calorie restriction. Or at> least it wasn't a good thing for me. I could have the surgery> reversed but I do not want to have major surgery again. If I try to> eat a regular portioned sized meal I feel like I have eaten a> humongous, thanksgiving meal. I can't eat and drink at the same meal.> I can only do one or the other because there is only so much room in> my stomach.> > > What the surgery didn't fix was the heart hunger. I am still an> emotional eater. In going to the post op support classes I could hear> some of the same old prejudices and reinforcement of bad habits to> keep people on the thin path. I didn't stick around for very long. I> just am not the kind of person. I think eating whole, real foods is a> good thing.> > I knew I still didn't have an answer. Now I am ready to try the IE> approach. I want food to be something I enjoy instead of have a> fearful, adversarial relationship. I don't want to have food occupy my> mind like an addict looking for a fix. I hate that!> > I hate that for almost 40 years of my life I have bought into that> food choice is a moral issue or my self worth is based on how small I> can be. > > It can be difficult to do IE because I get that feeling of fullness> artificially fast. Some may say, like my mother still does, that's a> good thing but like I said, starvation is not healthy for my body.> Most of the time I absolutely hate the idea of eating, food prep,> going out to eat, etc. I don't enjoy much about food and eating at all> and sometimes wish it would all go away.> > Sigh. I am ready for life to be different.> > Annie>

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Annie,Welcome to the group and thank you for being so willing to share your story and what you have been through. I don't think you could have said it better when you said the bypass didn't help with the heart hunger. That's what I have seen with pretty much everyone who has gone through the surgery. But I believe it has a place, and as you said it saved your life. But I applaud you for understanding there is so much more to this process than just the surgery.I know a physician that had the surgery and discovered the same thing, the emotional stuff isn't taken care of with surgery. I wish this was addressed more ahead of time, but maybe it will as we see patients gaining weight post-surgery because of the emotional stuff.Anyway, welcome! I would love to share this article with you and everyone here. It was written by the physician who had the surgery and I love the title, "They Didn't Staple My Brain". What a perfect title! http://www.bariatrictimes.com/displayArticle.cfm?articleID=030730-31_Patient

Thanks!

Gillian

Gillian Hood-son, MS,

ACSM

http://www.HealthierOutcomes.com

Want to eat your

favorite foods without gaining weight?

Check out our upcoming Am I Hungry? seminars beginning March 6th and April

1st: http://www.BreakOutofDietPrison.com

Find out how you can win your registration

- scroll down to the bottom of the Diet Prison page

>> Hi everyone.> > I just wanted to introduce myself.> > I have been heavy almost all my life. But looking back at those> pictures when I was a teen I sure don't look like the enormous slob I> thought I was or my family was telling me I was. I was afraid to ride> a horse when I was 16 because I thought at 150 pounds I would surely> hurt it. I had no idea then that at 5 ft 4" I was a average sized> woman. Living in a family obsessed with being thin which used shame> and manipulation to try and get me to loose weight really did a number> on my head for years. I tried a number of diets which I could stay on> for only 1-2 days because of the gigantic "FEED ME!" voice. Yeah, I> did fat camps too.> > I continued to gain weight, approximately 10 pounds a year for 20> years or so. A bad breakup followed by depression and hurting my back> eventually brought me up to 350 some pounds. In desperation, because> of some significant health problems like sleep apnea, really high> blood pressure, not being able to walk a few steps because of> crippling back pain and being short of breath led me to have gastric> bypass. Over a year I lost 120 pounds due to living on less than 500> calories a day. (BTW, I am not a math whiz so the numbers are not> precise.)> > Seven years later, still at 230 pounds. I don't have high blood> pressure, sleep apnea, or back pain (unless I sleep on a crappy> mattress) and the shortness of breath comes from walking up hill. > > I think the gastric bypass at the time saved my life. I don't regret> it because I was desperate and didn't know what to do. But, I have> paid for being starved for a year. My hair has thinned out. For a long> time I was in a weakened state, too weak to even go for a walk. I> still have a malabsorption problem so I must take supplements. I am> fortunate, though, in that in my surgery the surgeon was very> conservative and only bypassed the first portion of my intestines so I> have no where near the severity of problems or difficulties that other> people with weight loss surgery have had. My stomach can hold about a> cup of soft food.> > I have learned to eat frequent small meals to keep from falling into> that starvation mode again. I don't want to be in that place again. It> is not good for people be on such severe, calorie restriction. Or at> least it wasn't a good thing for me. I could have the surgery> reversed but I do not want to have major surgery again. If I try to> eat a regular portioned sized meal I feel like I have eaten a> humongous, thanksgiving meal. I can't eat and drink at the same meal.> I can only do one or the other because there is only so much room in> my stomach.> > > What the surgery didn't fix was the heart hunger. I am still an> emotional eater. In going to the post op support classes I could hear> some of the same old prejudices and reinforcement of bad habits to> keep people on the thin path. I didn't stick around for very long. I> just am not the kind of person. I think eating whole, real foods is a> good thing.> > I knew I still didn't have an answer. Now I am ready to try the IE> approach. I want food to be something I enjoy instead of have a> fearful, adversarial relationship. I don't want to have food occupy my> mind like an addict looking for a fix. I hate that!> > I hate that for almost 40 years of my life I have bought into that> food choice is a moral issue or my self worth is based on how small I> can be. > > It can be difficult to do IE because I get that feeling of fullness> artificially fast. Some may say, like my mother still does, that's a> good thing but like I said, starvation is not healthy for my body.> Most of the time I absolutely hate the idea of eating, food prep,> going out to eat, etc. I don't enjoy much about food and eating at all> and sometimes wish it would all go away.> > Sigh. I am ready for life to be different.> > Annie>

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