Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Yes the same thing happens to me though I never joined a diet program mostly because I never had the extra money I ws the same way and now I am reading all sorts of books about IE . I find it interesting how many books there are about the subject and I am constantly reading different ones to see how these authors havediffrent ways to do IE. I think its because I want to become better at following IE. Eva Hi everyone! I've made an interesting observation about myself recently and thought I'd share it with you. When I was dieting, I was obsessed about everything diet related. The only diet I really did was Weight Watchers but I was constanly looking for and reading about other diets, reading cookbooks, etc. Constantly searching for something better to help me lose weight. Well, I've noticed that I am still searching for something...the best way to be an intuitive eater. I think I read even more books now about eating than I ever did before! I have read Intuitive Eating at least 3 times and am currently reading The Rules of Normal Eating. I also have bought Overcoming Overeating, The Appetite Awareness Workbook and the Food and Feelings Workbook. I request books about weight issues from my library and am constantly reading stuff online. It's like I am constantly searching for an IE book that will magically make me lose weight instead of a diet. When I am home in the evening and am not reading one of these books I feel guilty! Like I am wasting precious time when I could be reading one of these books and "improving" myself. I have come a long way with some things but in other ways I feel I am still looking for that magic weight loss secret but in an intuitive eating form. Does this make sense?? Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money Finance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 YES!!! Me, too! I have been noticing the same thing about myself. I don't have any IE books, but I've been doing searches for all kinds of 'IE friendly phrases seeing if I can find something...that speaks to me and maybe I will finally 'get' whatever it is I'm not getting. I've been reading the 'thin within' forum, looking at posts on this board from a year ago and I cannot tell you how many times I've watched the Youtube McKenna Videos.. All the while I'm letting things go - missing 'real life' - knowing I'm doing it. I know I know the answers already - but it's as if I'm still not sure about being 'on my own'. Which is just silly...I've been doing it for years perfectly fine. I'm glad you brought this up. > > It's like I am constantly searching for an IE book that will magically make me lose weight instead of a diet. When I am home in the evening and am not reading one of these books I feel guilty! Like I am wasting precious time when I could be reading one of these books and " improving " myself. > > I have come a long way with some things but in other ways I feel I am still looking for that magic weight loss secret but in an intuitive eating form. > > Does this make sense?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Purely as a newcomer (who hasn't gone through much of the process yet), I think you've just described exactly why it seems like this is a group watching their weight as opposed to an intuitive eating group ... just from what I read in the book, this type of thinking goes against the very first principle - reject the diet mentality. If you haven't truly accepted that principle I don't think you can really move on - as I said in my intro I want soooo badly to "get to the next step" so I can start feeling better etc - but I know I'm really not there yet. I have to keep reminding myself (as the book does) to be patient. It seems like the first goal is still to lose weight - which is still diet mentality as far as I can tell.Anyway, I'm sorry if people don't like what I'm saying - I may not be allowed to stay in this group for long but it's just what I've seen in the few days since I've joined... still searching.... Hi everyone! I've made an interesting observation about myself recently and thought I'd share it with you. When I was dieting, I was obsessed about everything diet related. The only diet I really did was Weight Watchers but I was constanly looking for and reading about other diets, reading cookbooks, etc. Constantly searching for something better to help me lose weight. Well, I've noticed that I am still searching for something... the best way to be an intuitive eater. I think I read even more books now about eating than I ever did before! I have read Intuitive Eating at least 3 times and am currently reading The Rules of Normal Eating. I also have bought Overcoming Overeating, The Appetite Awareness Workbook and the Food and Feelings Workbook. I request books about weight issues from my library and am constantly reading stuff online. It's like I am constantly searching for an IE book that will magically make me lose weight instead of a diet. When I am home in the evening and am not reading one of these books I feel guilty! Like I am wasting precious time when I could be reading one of these books and "improving" myself. I have come a long way with some things but in other ways I feel I am still looking for that magic weight loss secret but in an intuitive eating form. Does this make sense?? Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! All new Yahoo! Mail - Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Yes it makes perfect sense. I too have been reading book after book and tyring to emmerse myself in as much IE information as I can. But I see it as the more I emmerse myself in IE the more I will be able to combat all the diet mentality in our society. I see it as a learning process. I certainly am not going to get this down over night, in a week or a month. I've been at this for about a year now and I can look back over the year and see just how far I have come with my beliefs and how I am around food. Certainly not perfect, but dramatic differences from a year ago. Are you sure you are searching for that magic solution or you just working at emmersing yourself in the IE concepts and knowledge? It sounds like you are being pretty hard on yourself. Remember to be gentle with yourself and maybe look back at your successes with IE. --Alana -------------- Original message -------------- Hi everyone! I've made an interesting observation about myself recently and thought I'd share it with you. When I was dieting, I was obsessed about everything diet related. The only diet I really did was Weight Watchers but I was constanly looking for and reading about other diets, reading cookbooks, etc. Constantly searching for something better to help me lose weight. Well, I've noticed that I am still searching for something...the best way to be an intuitive eater. I think I read even more books now about eating than I ever did before! I have read Intuitive Eating at least 3 times and am currently reading The Rules of Normal Eating. I also have bought Overcoming Overeating, The Appetite Awareness Workbook and the Food and Feelings Workbook. I request books about weight issues from my library and am constantly reading stuff online. It's like I am constantly searching for an IE book that will magically make me lose weight instead of a diet. When I am home in the evening and am not reading one of these books I feel guilty! Like I am wasting precious time when I could be reading one of these books and "improving" myself. I have come a long way with some things but in other ways I feel I am still looking for that magic weight loss secret but in an intuitive eating form. Does this make sense?? Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 That's exactly what I was trying to say! It's like I spend all my time obsessed about reading these books instead of living my life. I've just traded a diet obsession with an intuitive eating obsession.iv_adb wrote: All the while I'm letting things go - missing 'real life' - knowing I'm doing it. I know I know the answers already - but it's as if I'm still not sure about being 'on my own'. Which is just silly...I've been doing it for years perfectly fine. . Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Maybe I do need to look at as part of the learning process. I learn something from everything I read about IE. And yes I have come a long way in my relationship with food. But in other ways I haven't. I guess maybe I'm just getting frustrated that I haven't lost weight. I first read the Intuitive Eating book in the summer of 2006 and I've gained about 30-40 pounds since then. I was 254 pounds the last time I weighed myself...just 20 pounds from my highest weight ever! I guess I'm just scared that I'm going to keep gaining and IE will never work for me. ajslinton@... wrote: Yes it makes perfect sense. I too have been reading book after book and tyring to emmerse myself in as much IE information as I can. But I see it as the more I emmerse myself in IE the more I will be able to combat all the diet mentality in our society. I see it as a learning process. I certainly am not going to get this down over night, in a week or a month. I've been at this for about a year now and I can look back over the year and see just how far I have come with my beliefs and how I am around food. Certainly not perfect, but dramatic differences from a year ago. Are you sure you are searching for that magic solution or you just working at emmersing yourself in the IE concepts and knowledge? It sounds like you are being pretty hard on yourself. Remember to be gentle with yourself and maybe look back at your successes with IE. --Alana . Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Boy, I can certainly relate to what you have said. When I started IE about a year ago I was about 225 and know I've gained weight and it has been very scary and it is very frustrating. But I just keep telling myself that I'm doing really well with IE and that I need to keep trusting the process. I know the weight will release when it/my body/my psyche is ready. I am right now doing a lot of journaling around my fears of losing weight vs my fear of keeping the weight on. Also the worst and best things that could happen either way, what I want to happen, what I think will happen, and around my beliefs of what I think "should" happen. And finally, my fear of others expecations and what if I don't meet them. This has been really powerful to work at journaling about these things. One thing I've learned in listing my fears of losing weight are actualy either not true or kinda silly and makes me chuckle at myself.. But the fear of staying overweight is so huge, true and and very realistic. By doing this exercise I think the anxiety of losing weight has disapated and I've been able to get back on track in listening to my hunger/satisfaction levels and not eating mindlessly. --Alana -------------- Original message -------------- I guess maybe I'm just getting frustrated that I haven't lost weight. I first read the Intuitive Eating book in the summer of 2006 and I've gained about 30-40 pounds since then. I was 254 pounds the last time I weighed myself...just 20 pounds from my highest weight ever! I guess I'm just scared that I'm going to keep gaining and IE will never work for me. ajslintoncomcast (DOT) net wrote: .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 I agree...I think it all comes down to I haven't "rejected the diet mentality." wrote: Purely as a newcomer (who hasn't gone through much of the process yet), I think you've just described exactly why it seems like this is a group watching their weight as opposed to an intuitive eating group ... just from what I read in the book, this type of thinking goes against the very first principle - reject the diet mentality. If you haven't truly accepted that principle I don't think you can really move on - as I said in my intro I want soooo badly to "get to the next step" so I can start feeling better etc - but I know I'm really not there yet. I have to keep reminding myself (as the book does) to be patient. It seems like the first goal is still to lose weight - which is still diet mentality as far as I can tell.Anyway, I'm sorry if people don't like what I'm saying - I may not be allowed to stay in this group for long but it's just what I've seen in the few days since I've joined... still searching.... Hi everyone! I've made an interesting observation about myself recently and thought I'd share it with you. When I was dieting, I was obsessed about everything diet related. The only diet I really did was Weight Watchers but I was constanly looking for and reading about other diets, reading cookbooks, etc. Constantly searching for something better to help me lose weight. Well, I've noticed that I am still searching for something... the best way to be an intuitive eater. I think I read even more books now about eating than I ever did before! I have read Intuitive Eating at least 3 times and am currently reading The Rules of Normal Eating. I also have bought Overcoming Overeating, The Appetite Awareness Workbook and the Food and Feelings Workbook. I request books about weight issues from my library and am constantly reading stuff online. It's like I am constantly searching for an IE book that will magically make me lose weight instead of a diet. When I am home in the evening and am not reading one of these books I feel guilty! Like I am wasting precious time when I could be reading one of these books and "improving" myself. I have come a long way with some things but in other ways I feel I am still looking for that magic weight loss secret but in an intuitive eating form. Does this make sense?? Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! All new Yahoo! Mail - Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane. Instant message from any web browser! Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger for the Web BETA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Hmm. Well, is wanting to be our normal, comfortable weight “diet mentality?” I thought the diet mentality involved seeing foods as bad or good, regulating our eating based on outside cues instead of inside, and depriving ourselves of what we want to eat. I haven’t seen anything so far in the IE book that says we should not desire to be at our normal weight. I don’t recall reading anything that said we should either. Wouldn’t that be a personal preference? Dianna www.diannanarciso.com Re: still searching.... I agree...I think it all comes down to I haven't " rejected the diet mentality. " <chelle_mitchell81yahoo (DOT) ca> wrote: Purely as a newcomer (who hasn't gone through much of the process yet), I think you've just described exactly why it seems like this is a group watching their weight as opposed to an intuitive eating group ... just from what I read in the book, this type of thinking goes against the very first principle - reject the diet mentality. If you haven't truly accepted that principle I don't think you can really move on - as I said in my intro I want soooo badly to " get to the next step " so I can start feeling better etc - but I know I'm really not there yet. I have to keep reminding myself (as the book does) to be patient. It seems like the first goal is still to lose weight - which is still diet mentality as far as I can tell. Anyway, I'm sorry if people don't like what I'm saying - I may not be allowed to stay in this group for long but it's just what I've seen in the few days since I've joined... still searching.... Hi everyone! I've made an interesting observation about myself recently and thought I'd share it with you. When I was dieting, I was obsessed about everything diet related. The only diet I really did was Weight Watchers but I was constanly looking for and reading about other diets, reading cookbooks, etc. Constantly searching for something better to help me lose weight. Well, I've noticed that I am still searching for something... the best way to be an intuitive eater. I think I read even more books now about eating than I ever did before! I have read Intuitive Eating at least 3 times and am currently reading The Rules of Normal Eating. I also have bought Overcoming Overeating, The Appetite Awareness Workbook and the Food and Feelings Workbook. I request books about weight issues from my library and am constantly reading stuff online. It's like I am constantly searching for an IE book that will magically make me lose weight instead of a diet. When I am home in the evening and am not reading one of these books I feel guilty! Like I am wasting precious time when I could be reading one of these books and " improving " myself. I have come a long way with some things but in other ways I feel I am still looking for that magic weight loss secret but in an intuitive eating form. Does this make sense?? Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! All new Yahoo! Mail - Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane. Instant message from any web browser! Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger for the Web BETA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Your post makes perfect sense to me, except that I haven't even started IE yet because I am looking for the " perfect " program. No starting just searching. That leaves me to believe that I somehow like being obese. I think the true answer is that I, for some reason, am terrified of letting the fat go, letting the food go. I am scared to let go and yet scared to continue on this path of self- hatred. I have even gained more weight this week with my out of control eating. I don't know if I am a binger or a compulsive overeater but whichever I am eating way more food than my body needs to function. Confusing! Sue > > Hi everyone! I've made an interesting observation about myself recently and thought I'd share it with you. > > When I was dieting, I was obsessed about everything diet related. The only diet I really did was Weight Watchers but I was constanly looking for and reading about other diets, reading cookbooks, etc. Constantly searching for something better to help me lose weight. Well, I've noticed that I am still searching for something...the best way to be an intuitive eater. I think I read even more books now about eating than I ever did before! I have read Intuitive Eating at least 3 times and am currently reading The Rules of Normal Eating. I also have bought Overcoming Overeating, The Appetite Awareness Workbook and the Food and Feelings Workbook. I request books about weight issues from my library and am constantly reading stuff online. > > It's like I am constantly searching for an IE book that will magically make me lose weight instead of a diet. When I am home in the evening and am not reading one of these books I feel guilty! Like I am wasting precious time when I could be reading one of these books and " improving " myself. > > I have come a long way with some things but in other ways I feel I am still looking for that magic weight loss secret but in an intuitive eating form. > > Does this make sense?? > > > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 I'd say that diet mentality rests very heavily on accepting a 'thin' image as THE cornerstone of its foundation! Its not unusual to come to IE with old diet type attitudes and expectations. Switching one's focus from EXternal drives to INternal ones is the hardest step we make on our IE journey. Hope you can find that the 'magic key' you are seeking is IN you and not to be found anywhere else. Weight loss (I say adjustment) needs to be turned over to what YOUR body needs, not to meet an 'standard' set without your body's total assessment/needs in mind. OK, you know the concept backwards and forwards, now you get to try them out on YOURSELF as you can feel comfortable with them. BEST to you and hang in there too - ehugs, Katcha > > Hi everyone! I've made an interesting observation about myself recently and thought I'd share it with you. > > When I was dieting, I was obsessed about everything diet related. The only diet I really did was Weight Watchers but I was constanly looking for and reading about other diets, reading cookbooks, etc. Constantly searching for something better to help me lose weight. Well, I've noticed that I am still searching for something...the best way to be an intuitive eater. I think I read even more books now about eating than I ever did before! I have read Intuitive Eating at least 3 times and am currently reading The Rules of Normal Eating. I also have bought Overcoming Overeating, The Appetite Awareness Workbook and the Food and Feelings Workbook. I request books about weight issues from my library and am constantly reading stuff online. > > It's like I am constantly searching for an IE book that will magically make me lose weight instead of a diet. When I am home in the evening and am not reading one of these books I feel guilty! Like I am wasting precious time when I could be reading one of these books and " improving " myself. > > I have come a long way with some things but in other ways I feel I am still looking for that magic weight loss secret but in an intuitive eating form. > > Does this make sense?? > > > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Me too Alana - the 'emmersion' method has worked for me as well. I wasn't able to 'apply' (read force myself) all the IE guidelines ASAP when taking it up, so I just let myself 'hear' things enough to where they just sort of seeped into my being Its a slower method for sure, but seems to be working alright too. AND it is a more gentle method too. ehugs, Katcha > > Yes it makes perfect sense. > I too have been reading book after book and tyring to emmerse myself in as much IE information as I can. But I see it as the more I emmerse myself in IE the more I will be able to combat all the diet mentality in our society. I see it as a learning process. I certainly am not going to get this down over night, in a week or a month. I've been at this for about a year now and I can look back over the year and see just how far I have come with my beliefs and how I am around food. Certainly not perfect, but dramatic differences from a year ago. Are you sure you are searching for that magic solution or you just working at emmersing yourself in the IE concepts and knowledge? It sounds like you are being pretty hard on yourself. Remember to be gentle with yourself and maybe look back at your successes with IE. > > -- > Alana > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 No sweat , I haven't found anything you have posted to be of offense at all! The only bouncing of members is done to those who spam instead of particpate so you are 'safe'. The truth often hurts and for us emotional eaters, it can also be a source of overeating triggers too. It truly is difficult to just 'dump' diet mentality which is of course a BIG step in the right direction! Not only are we trying to avoid input from media but re-educating our health care people AND ourselves too. Please do hang in with us if you are comfortable doing so. We benefit from your input/insights and I think you may be able to 'adjust' to IE thinking easier if you keep your own needs in focus and do your best to try and cultivate a more tolerant/sympathic attitude towards others who aren't 'getting' IE (yet). It seems that perfection tendencies do creep up on us as we take on new practices - IE too! ehugs, Katcha > > Purely as a newcomer (who hasn't gone through much of the process yet), I think you've just described exactly why it seems like this is a group watching their weight as opposed to an intuitive eating group .... just from what I read in the book, this type of thinking goes against the very first principle - reject the diet mentality. If you haven't truly accepted that principle I don't think you can really move on - as I said in my intro I want soooo badly to " get to the next step " so I can start feeling better etc - but I know I'm really not there yet. I have to keep reminding myself (as the book does) to be patient. > > It seems like the first goal is still to lose weight - which is still diet mentality as far as I can tell. > > Anyway, I'm sorry if people don't like what I'm saying - I may not be allowed to stay in this group for long but it's just what I've seen in the few days since I've joined... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 I know that I have some kind of deep connection with food. I have never really been a dieter, because all I have to do is consider limiting my intake of sweets and I’m off on a two-week binge. So, in my humble opinion, you should embrace this idea that you have something going on with food. Allow yourself to understand that you are using food for something. You may not know what it is and maybe you will never know. Just accept it, though. And then maybe just start pampering yourself with nice words and hugs and pats. Tell yourself that you’re okay. I had a lot of problems many years ago and there was this guy on Oprah and he said to close your eyes and go back to your childhood and see yourself there. And then take yourself by the hand and take yourself away. Tell yourself that YOU are your parent now. You are going to take care of you. This was a ground breaking exercise for me. It still has taken me a long time to begin believing I was worth nurturing, but I have grown so much since. I guess what I’m trying to say is that there is no perfect plan. Just like there is no perfect you or me. Intuitive eating is more than just a way to eat, in my opinion. It’s taking ourselves back to a time before we had all the baggage thrown at us. Back then, we ate when we were hungry and we ate what we wanted to eat and we stopped when we were satisfied. All this plan is asking us to do at first is to start paying attention. Look for hunger. If you eat anyway, just be conscious of it. While you’re eating, pay attention. Is it good? Are you getting full? And if you don’t stop, that’s okay, as long as you’re aware of it. But sooner or later, you’re going to let yourself become hungry and you’ll find that eating when you’re hungry is so much more satisfying. And gradually, over time, you’ll do that more and more often. It’s a process. Sorry, I’ve babbled. But writing this to you has really helped me. J They have these new Reese’s peanut butter bunnies for Easter. Oh, man. I am so happy I have allowed myself to have one. I can hardly wait to get hungry again to eat more. Dianna www.diannanarciso.com Re: still searching.... Your post makes perfect sense to me, except that I haven't even started IE yet because I am looking for the " perfect " program. No starting just searching. That leaves me to believe that I somehow like being obese. I think the true answer is that I, for some reason, am terrified of letting the fat go, letting the food go. I am scared to let go and yet scared to continue on this path of self- hatred. I have even gained more weight this week with my out of control eating. I don't know if I am a binger or a compulsive overeater but whichever I am eating way more food than my body needs to function. Confusing! Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Deb I agree and I also have your secret goal and I have been able to realize that goal with some of my family but they laugh or snicker like I used to when I first heard about IE. I also agree that my main goal is to be at a good weight for me where it is easier for me to move more easily. Eva Deb,I can very much relate to your 'secret goal' - ohhh would I LOVE to beable to RUB IE into the faces of my medical people as well as fewother people I know who seem to snicker when I talk aboutnon/un-dieting (aka IE or Normal eating). However, I do know that thatis as false a guide as weighing myself so I try to re-focus mythoughts and efforts towards IE for ME instead of what the rest of theworld thinks and does. Yes, healthy at any size is what I want and I believe so does mostpeople at this site. Part of that may require some 'fat acceptance' asa tool to go forth with the other steps of reacquainting with one'sself with body hunger etc. What I have found too is that when I readsomething and it really gets to me, its usually because its what Ineed to work on myself!Glad to hear that you are hanging in with us as well as sharing yourtrue feelings too. That is very excellent work on your part!Katcha>> Dear Group,> I am not totally sure where this topic started but it hits home forme as my own "secret goal" is to have people notice that I have lostweight and when they ask how, I will say "by not dieting"! Especiallywhen I can say this to the chronic dieters that I know.> > Although I perceived this to be intuitive eating and rejecting thediet mentality, is it really? Isn't it just the same thing that Ihave always worked toward-being slimmer and other noticing that I amslimmer.> Jeez this is frustrating to me. > > As I read messages from everyone on the daily digest what I tend topick up more is almost a 'fat acceptance' mentality and don't thinkthat is where we want to be either. > > I think each of us has a healthy weight that relates more to bloodpressure, cholesterol, heart issues and mobility rather than size andI hope we can all strive for that goal together.> Highest Regards to All,> Deb>========================================================================Groups related to IntuitiveEating_Support ========================================================================FlyLadyMentors (82 common members) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FlyLadyMentors?v=1 & t=ipt & ch=email & pub=groups & slk=aftr0 & sec=recg Home and Garden/Homemaking: Are YOU living in CHAOS (Can't Have Anyone Over Sy...Serious-Weight-Watchers (19 common members) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Serious-Weight-Watchers?v=1 & t=ipt & ch=email & pub=groups & slk=aftr1 & sec=recg Weight Issues/Weight Loss: Join us if you're seriously following Weight Watch...bodyforlifewomensclub2 (14 common members) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bodyforlifewomensclub2?v=1 & t=ipt & ch=email & pub=groups & slk=aftr2 & sec=recg Fitness and Nutrition/Body For Life: Welcome to BFL Women. This group is based on the b...------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Dear Group, I am not totally sure where this topic started but it hits home for me as my own "secret goal" is to have people notice that I have lost weight and when they ask how, I will say "by not dieting"! Especially when I can say this to the chronic dieters that I know. Although I perceived this to be intuitive eating and rejecting the diet mentality, is it really? Isn't it just the same thing that I have always worked toward-being slimmer and other noticing that I am slimmer. Jeez this is frustrating to me. As I read messages from everyone on the daily digest what I tend to pick up more is almost a 'fat acceptance' mentality and don't think that is where we want to be either. I think each of us has a healthy weight that relates more to blood pressure, cholesterol, heart issues and mobility rather than size and I hope we can all strive for that goal together. Highest Regards to All, Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Deb, I can very much relate to your 'secret goal' - ohhh would I LOVE to be able to RUB IE into the faces of my medical people as well as few other people I know who seem to snicker when I talk about non/un-dieting (aka IE or Normal eating). However, I do know that that is as false a guide as weighing myself so I try to re-focus my thoughts and efforts towards IE for ME instead of what the rest of the world thinks and does. Yes, healthy at any size is what I want and I believe so does most people at this site. Part of that may require some 'fat acceptance' as a tool to go forth with the other steps of reacquainting with one's self with body hunger etc. What I have found too is that when I read something and it really gets to me, its usually because its what I need to work on myself! Glad to hear that you are hanging in with us as well as sharing your true feelings too. That is very excellent work on your part! Katcha > > Dear Group, > I am not totally sure where this topic started but it hits home for me as my own " secret goal " is to have people notice that I have lost weight and when they ask how, I will say " by not dieting " ! Especially when I can say this to the chronic dieters that I know. > > Although I perceived this to be intuitive eating and rejecting the diet mentality, is it really? Isn't it just the same thing that I have always worked toward-being slimmer and other noticing that I am slimmer. > Jeez this is frustrating to me. > > As I read messages from everyone on the daily digest what I tend to pick up more is almost a 'fat acceptance' mentality and don't think that is where we want to be either. > > I think each of us has a healthy weight that relates more to blood pressure, cholesterol, heart issues and mobility rather than size and I hope we can all strive for that goal together. > Highest Regards to All, > Deb > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Very well said Deb. --Alana -------------- Original message -------------- Dear Group, I am not totally sure where this topic started but it hits home for me as my own "secret goal" is to have people notice that I have lost weight and when they ask how, I will say "by not dieting"! Especially when I can say this to the chronic dieters that I know. Although I perceived this to be intuitive eating and rejecting the diet mentality, is it really? Isn't it just the same thing that I have always worked toward-being slimmer and other noticing that I am slimmer. Jeez this is frustrating to me. As I read messages from everyone on the daily digest what I tend to pick up more is almost a 'fat acceptance' mentality and don't think that is where we want to be either. I think each of us has a healthy weight that relates more to blood pressure, cholesterol, heart issues and mobility rather than size and I hope we can all strive for that goal together. Highest Regards to All, Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Oh, my gosh. <blush> I thought I was the only one to have such 'horrible' thoughts > I can very much relate to your 'secret goal' - ohhh would I LOVE to be > able to RUB IE into the faces of my medical people as well as few > other people I know who seem to snicker when I talk about > non/un-dieting (aka IE or Normal eating). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Oh, my gosh. <blush> I thought I was the only one to have such 'horrible' thoughts > I can very much relate to your 'secret goal' - ohhh would I LOVE to be > able to RUB IE into the faces of my medical people as well as few > other people I know who seem to snicker when I talk about > non/un-dieting (aka IE or Normal eating). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Nah... it'd be nice if people could finally acknowledge that normal eating " works " , and that looking for magical weight loss quick fixes doesn't make them any healthier or better than anyone else. Of course, people who are very caught in the dieting mindset likely have their own issues to work out, and hopefully someday they WILL see the light of intuitive/normal eating. Until then, though, we can be secure in the knowledge that we are doing our best to treat our bodies and ourselves well, and let go of the diet mentality that has damaged and controlled us in the past. Carolyn > > > I can very much relate to your 'secret goal' - ohhh would I LOVE to be > > able to RUB IE into the faces of my medical people as well as few > > other people I know who seem to snicker when I talk about > > non/un-dieting (aka IE or Normal eating). > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Nah... it'd be nice if people could finally acknowledge that normal eating " works " , and that looking for magical weight loss quick fixes doesn't make them any healthier or better than anyone else. Of course, people who are very caught in the dieting mindset likely have their own issues to work out, and hopefully someday they WILL see the light of intuitive/normal eating. Until then, though, we can be secure in the knowledge that we are doing our best to treat our bodies and ourselves well, and let go of the diet mentality that has damaged and controlled us in the past. Carolyn > > > I can very much relate to your 'secret goal' - ohhh would I LOVE to be > > able to RUB IE into the faces of my medical people as well as few > > other people I know who seem to snicker when I talk about > > non/un-dieting (aka IE or Normal eating). > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 I'd say we were simply bluntly honest!! (unlike those who snicker ;-) LOL!! > > > I can very much relate to your 'secret goal' - ohhh would I LOVE to be > > able to RUB IE into the faces of my medical people as well as few > > other people I know who seem to snicker when I talk about > > non/un-dieting (aka IE or Normal eating). > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 I'd say we were simply bluntly honest!! (unlike those who snicker ;-) LOL!! > > > I can very much relate to your 'secret goal' - ohhh would I LOVE to be > > able to RUB IE into the faces of my medical people as well as few > > other people I know who seem to snicker when I talk about > > non/un-dieting (aka IE or Normal eating). > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 I can't help but wonder, because I'm working on my issues about not wanting to lose more, if maybe it's because once I get to my goal weight that I'll not have ALL THIS to occupy my mind when I have nothing else to think about. I notice when I'm busy with a hobby. Then I finish it for the time being, or whatever, that I then go back to organizing diet stuff or just healthy-eating stuff, etc. It's like it's just one of my hobbies and comes and goes as I need it to. It's either foremost in my mind or 5th in line but always reliably there to give me something big to 'work on' when I'm out of ideas. Do any of you feel this way? Like you are literally going to lose a good friend if your heavy self goes away, all this that we are doing to become 'thin' or at goal or whatever, it will all just stop when we hit goal. (Not literally because you must maintain which means a whole new set of rules, calories, etc. Yes, I know IE has no calorie limit. Please be patient with me, I haven't read the book yet. But planning to do that very soon!) I just know I'll miss talking about all this with the friends I have who have this in common with me (not so much miss it but just will be lost without it being so prevalent), I'm also afraid of making new friends who do not understand weight issues so therefore can't understand the real ME. It's just a strange thing to go from this ruling my life to realizing one day it won't. And then I have to learn new rules, like moving to another country with different laws that govern my every day existence. It's just strange. Thanks for listening, although it may not be true IE discussion, SelinaIt's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money Finance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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