ALA - direct inhibitor of retroviral replication

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the vit A protical is suppose to be done with only certain vit A types and is recommended with klaire labs as it was disigned for this purpose

Re: ALA - direct inhibitor of retroviral replication> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ââ,¬Å"Could it be that the chelators work as antiretrovirals by removing mercury? ââ,¬Å"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , that is not the case, that is not how chelators work here. They work by removing ions from cation-binding viral proteins, causing unfolding/loss of protein functionality. For example by opening zinc-finger proteins and similar. There are other mechanisms observed, such as inhibiting viral DNA synthesis through RNA reductase deactivation, see attached> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > btw some of these studies are in vitro, no mercury in sight, so the answer is NO they do not work as antivirals through chelating mercury, at least not exclusively (meaning to say that who knows maybe heavy metals are also directly utilised by some viruses)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And whatever is observed to happen in HIV only is only because HIV is studied lot more than others. There are no studies that show other viral proteins would not be unfolding in the same way when chelators added. Having said that there are studies on herpes/CMV and others that indicate same things going on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The influence of divalent cations on the stability of human rotavirus.> > > > > > > > The influence of divalent cations on the stability of human rotavirus was investigated using the indirect immunofluorescence (FA) technique in LLC-MK2 cells to titrate infectivity. Rotavirus infectivity was stabilized by calcium and strontium ions in solution but not by magnesium ions. Rotavirus isolates were found to be much less stable at 37 degrees C than at + 4 degrees C or 20 degrees. A study of virus morphology at intervals during the course of the experiment and treatment with the chelating agents EDTA and EGTA suggests that loss of infectivity coincides with the removal of the outer capsid layer and that calcium may be required to maintain virus integrity. Arch Virol. 1981;67(1):1- 9. Shirley JA, Beards GM, Thouless ME, Flewett TH> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Biochemical studies of primate retroviruses.> > > > > > > > In the present paper, recent biochemical studies of retroviruses carried out in our laboratory are summarized. Protein compositions, peptide maps of internal structural proteins, neighborhoods of major structural proteins, and serological properties of reverse transcriptases of type D virus isolates from human cells (including Graffi's isolate termed PMFV and also isolates from HeLa- and HEp-2 cells) were compared with those of type D viruses from Old World (Mason-Pfizer virus of rhesus monkeys, langur virus) and New World (squirrel monkey retrovirus) monkeys. The results provide various new informations on, and further demonstrate the diversity of primate type D viruses. Other studies showed that tumor promoting agents (phorbol ester TPA, indole alkaloid teleocidin) are able to considerably increase, in a transient manner, the production of type C and type D primate retroviruses in persistently infected human cells. From experiments demonstrating a disintegrating activity of chelating agents (EDTA, EGTA) and certain psychoactive drugs (including trifluoperazine) on various primate and nonprimate retroviruses it is concluded that divalent cations, probably Ca2+ ions, and possibly also cation-binding proteins are associated with retroviral membranes and that complexing of these components results in loss of viral infectivity. Wunderlich Very, Uckert W, Sydow G Arch Geschwulstforsch. 1983;53(3):267- 78.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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the vit A protical is suppose to be done with only certain vit A types and is recommended with klaire labs as it was disigned for this purpose

Re: ALA - direct inhibitor of retroviral replication> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ââ,¬Å"Could it be that the chelators work as antiretrovirals by removing mercury? ââ,¬Å"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , that is not the case, that is not how chelators work here. They work by removing ions from cation-binding viral proteins, causing unfolding/loss of protein functionality. For example by opening zinc-finger proteins and similar. There are other mechanisms observed, such as inhibiting viral DNA synthesis through RNA reductase deactivation, see attached> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > btw some of these studies are in vitro, no mercury in sight, so the answer is NO they do not work as antivirals through chelating mercury, at least not exclusively (meaning to say that who knows maybe heavy metals are also directly utilised by some viruses)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And whatever is observed to happen in HIV only is only because HIV is studied lot more than others. There are no studies that show other viral proteins would not be unfolding in the same way when chelators added. Having said that there are studies on herpes/CMV and others that indicate same things going on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The influence of divalent cations on the stability of human rotavirus.> > > > > > > > The influence of divalent cations on the stability of human rotavirus was investigated using the indirect immunofluorescence (FA) technique in LLC-MK2 cells to titrate infectivity. Rotavirus infectivity was stabilized by calcium and strontium ions in solution but not by magnesium ions. Rotavirus isolates were found to be much less stable at 37 degrees C than at + 4 degrees C or 20 degrees. A study of virus morphology at intervals during the course of the experiment and treatment with the chelating agents EDTA and EGTA suggests that loss of infectivity coincides with the removal of the outer capsid layer and that calcium may be required to maintain virus integrity. Arch Virol. 1981;67(1):1- 9. Shirley JA, Beards GM, Thouless ME, Flewett TH> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Biochemical studies of primate retroviruses.> > > > > > > > In the present paper, recent biochemical studies of retroviruses carried out in our laboratory are summarized. Protein compositions, peptide maps of internal structural proteins, neighborhoods of major structural proteins, and serological properties of reverse transcriptases of type D virus isolates from human cells (including Graffi's isolate termed PMFV and also isolates from HeLa- and HEp-2 cells) were compared with those of type D viruses from Old World (Mason-Pfizer virus of rhesus monkeys, langur virus) and New World (squirrel monkey retrovirus) monkeys. The results provide various new informations on, and further demonstrate the diversity of primate type D viruses. Other studies showed that tumor promoting agents (phorbol ester TPA, indole alkaloid teleocidin) are able to considerably increase, in a transient manner, the production of type C and type D primate retroviruses in persistently infected human cells. From experiments demonstrating a disintegrating activity of chelating agents (EDTA, EGTA) and certain psychoactive drugs (including trifluoperazine) on various primate and nonprimate retroviruses it is concluded that divalent cations, probably Ca2+ ions, and possibly also cation-binding proteins are associated with retroviral membranes and that complexing of these components results in loss of viral infectivity. Wunderlich Very, Uckert W, Sydow G Arch Geschwulstforsch. 1983;53(3):267- 78.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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yes my sons titers were very high off the charts which is why we tried this protical. it was suppressing his immune system. we also only did one MMR and it was the one that triggered his regression in less then a day

Re: ALA - direct inhibitor of retroviral replication> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ââ,¬Å"Could it be that the chelators work as antiretrovirals by removing mercury? ââ,¬Å"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > , that is not the case, that is not how chelators work here. They work by removing ions from cation-binding viral proteins, causing unfolding/loss of protein functionality. For example by opening zinc-finger proteins and similar. There are other mechanisms observed, such as inhibiting viral DNA synthesis through RNA reductase deactivation, see attached> > > > > > > > > > > > > > btw some of these studies are in vitro, no mercury in sight, so the answer is NO they do not work as antivirals through chelating mercury, at least not exclusively (meaning to say that who knows maybe heavy metals are also directly utilised by some viruses)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And whatever is observed to happen in HIV only is only because HIV is studied lot more than others. There are no studies that show other viral proteins would not be unfolding in the same way when chelators added. Having said that there are studies on herpes/CMV and others that indicate same things going on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The influence of divalent cations on the stability of human rotavirus.> > > > > > > The influence of divalent cations on the stability of human rotavirus was investigated using the indirect immunofluorescence (FA) technique in LLC-MK2 cells to titrate infectivity. Rotavirus infectivity was stabilized by calcium and strontium ions in solution but not by magnesium ions. Rotavirus isolates were found to be much less stable at 37 degrees C than at + 4 degrees C or 20 degrees. A study of virus morphology at intervals during the course of the experiment and treatment with the chelating agents EDTA and EGTA suggests that loss of infectivity coincides with the removal of the outer capsid layer and that calcium may be required to maintain virus integrity. Arch Virol. 1981;67(1):1- 9. Shirley JA, Beards GM, Thouless ME, Flewett TH> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Biochemical studies of primate retroviruses.> > > > > > > In the present paper, recent biochemical studies of retroviruses carried out in our laboratory are summarized. Protein compositions, peptide maps of internal structural proteins, neighborhoods of major structural proteins, and serological properties of reverse transcriptases of type D virus isolates from human cells (including Graffi's isolate termed PMFV and also isolates from HeLa- and HEp-2 cells) were compared with those of type D viruses from Old World (Mason-Pfizer virus of rhesus monkeys, langur virus) and New World (squirrel monkey retrovirus) monkeys. The results provide various new informations on, and further demonstrate the diversity of primate type D viruses. Other studies showed that tumor promoting agents (phorbol ester TPA, indole alkaloid teleocidin) are able to considerably increase, in a transient manner, the production of type C and type D primate retroviruses in persistently infected human cells. From experiments demonstrating a disintegrating activity of chelating agents (EDTA, EGTA) and certain psychoactive drugs (including trifluoperazine) on various primate and nonprimate retroviruses it is concluded that divalent cations, probably Ca2+ ions, and possibly also cation-binding proteins are associated with retroviral membranes and that complexing of these components results in loss of viral infectivity. Wunderlich Very, Uckert W, Sydow G Arch Geschwulstforsch. 1983;53(3):267- 78.> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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yes my sons titers were very high off the charts which is why we tried this protical. it was suppressing his immune system. we also only did one MMR and it was the one that triggered his regression in less then a day

Re: ALA - direct inhibitor of retroviral replication> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ââ,¬Å"Could it be that the chelators work as antiretrovirals by removing mercury? ââ,¬Å"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > , that is not the case, that is not how chelators work here. They work by removing ions from cation-binding viral proteins, causing unfolding/loss of protein functionality. For example by opening zinc-finger proteins and similar. There are other mechanisms observed, such as inhibiting viral DNA synthesis through RNA reductase deactivation, see attached> > > > > > > > > > > > > > btw some of these studies are in vitro, no mercury in sight, so the answer is NO they do not work as antivirals through chelating mercury, at least not exclusively (meaning to say that who knows maybe heavy metals are also directly utilised by some viruses)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And whatever is observed to happen in HIV only is only because HIV is studied lot more than others. There are no studies that show other viral proteins would not be unfolding in the same way when chelators added. Having said that there are studies on herpes/CMV and others that indicate same things going on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The influence of divalent cations on the stability of human rotavirus.> > > > > > > The influence of divalent cations on the stability of human rotavirus was investigated using the indirect immunofluorescence (FA) technique in LLC-MK2 cells to titrate infectivity. Rotavirus infectivity was stabilized by calcium and strontium ions in solution but not by magnesium ions. Rotavirus isolates were found to be much less stable at 37 degrees C than at + 4 degrees C or 20 degrees. A study of virus morphology at intervals during the course of the experiment and treatment with the chelating agents EDTA and EGTA suggests that loss of infectivity coincides with the removal of the outer capsid layer and that calcium may be required to maintain virus integrity. Arch Virol. 1981;67(1):1- 9. Shirley JA, Beards GM, Thouless ME, Flewett TH> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Biochemical studies of primate retroviruses.> > > > > > > In the present paper, recent biochemical studies of retroviruses carried out in our laboratory are summarized. Protein compositions, peptide maps of internal structural proteins, neighborhoods of major structural proteins, and serological properties of reverse transcriptases of type D virus isolates from human cells (including Graffi's isolate termed PMFV and also isolates from HeLa- and HEp-2 cells) were compared with those of type D viruses from Old World (Mason-Pfizer virus of rhesus monkeys, langur virus) and New World (squirrel monkey retrovirus) monkeys. The results provide various new informations on, and further demonstrate the diversity of primate type D viruses. Other studies showed that tumor promoting agents (phorbol ester TPA, indole alkaloid teleocidin) are able to considerably increase, in a transient manner, the production of type C and type D primate retroviruses in persistently infected human cells. From experiments demonstrating a disintegrating activity of chelating agents (EDTA, EGTA) and certain psychoactive drugs (including trifluoperazine) on various primate and nonprimate retroviruses it is concluded that divalent cations, probably Ca2+ ions, and possibly also cation-binding proteins are associated with retroviral membranes and that complexing of these components results in loss of viral infectivity. Wunderlich Very, Uckert W, Sydow G Arch Geschwulstforsch. 1983;53(3):267- 78.> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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no we only did the low dose 5 drops a day, but again my son ate LARGE amount of carrots (a pound a day) and had clo while doing it so I was scared to do high dose

Re: ALA - direct inhibitor of retroviral replication

Christel,Did you do a higher vitamin A dosage for 2 months to get the measles out? That is great you got such good results on language.> >> > for us after 2 months we broke out in measels from head to toe confirmed by 4 drs' so we pushed it through a week of break out and then dropped it and it took 2 weeks for it disappear and then lang took off> >

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no we only did the low dose 5 drops a day, but again my son ate LARGE amount of carrots (a pound a day) and had clo while doing it so I was scared to do high dose

Re: ALA - direct inhibitor of retroviral replication

Christel,Did you do a higher vitamin A dosage for 2 months to get the measles out? That is great you got such good results on language.> >> > for us after 2 months we broke out in measels from head to toe confirmed by 4 drs' so we pushed it through a week of break out and then dropped it and it took 2 weeks for it disappear and then lang took off> >

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I believe carrots don't actually contain Vitamin A, but the beta carotene in

them is made into vitamin A if the body doesn't have a carotene conversion

problem. Fish oil is really the best source.

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> > > for us after 2 months we broke out in measels from head to toe confirmed

by 4 drs' so we pushed it through a week of break out and then dropped it and it

took 2 weeks for it disappear and then lang took off

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I used Solgar (Vit A from fish oil, no allergens), yes, but the dose I used was

only 10,000 IU. I chose not to do a loading dose because this is already a high

daily dose. I have been giving 10,000 IU for a couple months now, haven't ever

done more than that.

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> > > > > > > > > From: Christel King <christelking1@ >

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retroviral replication

> > > > > > > > > To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > > > > > Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 8:59 AM

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> > > > > > > > > then I guess we don't have mercury in the brain because our

son isn't autistic anymore....and we didn't chelate! not ALL autistic kids have

mercury issues! my son didn't become autistic because he had metals, he became

autistic when he got an MMR....in HOURS after it!n we had tested 2 weeks prior

developmental testing and he was 6 months advanced. after 7 hours after his MMR

he became autistic, lost lang, no eye contact, started seizering, ect. we tested

him 2 weeks after this because I had no idea what had happened to my son, he

then had the develeopment of a 2-4 month old. we LITERIALLY lost 14-16 months

development from the MMR.....NOT EVERYTHING IS METALS~! if it was he would have

become autistic when the thermitor exploded at 6 months old in our dishwasher

and he didn't then!!!! it would also mean that my son would STILL be autistic

since we haven't chelated with your therory and he is not!

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retroviral replication

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> > > > > > > > > ââ,¬Å " Could it be that the chelators work as

antiretrovirals by removing mercury? ââ,¬Å "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , that is not the case, that is not how chelators work

here. They work by removing ions from cation-binding viral proteins, causing

unfolding/loss of protein functionality. For example by opening zinc-finger

proteins and similar. There are other mechanisms observed, such as inhibiting

viral DNA synthesis through RNA reductase deactivation, see attached

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > btw some of these studies are in vitro, no mercury in sight,

so the answer is NO they do not work as antivirals through chelating mercury, at

least not exclusively (meaning to say that who knows maybe heavy metals are also

directly utilised by some viruses)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > And whatever is observed to happen in HIV only is only because

HIV is studied lot more than others. There are no studies that show other viral

proteins would not be unfolding in the same way when chelators added. Having

said that there are studies on herpes/CMV and others that indicate same things

going on.

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> > > > > > > > > The influence of divalent cations on the stability of human

rotavirus.

> > > > > > > > > The influence of divalent cations on the stability of human

rotavirus was investigated using the indirect immunofluorescence (FA) technique

in LLC-MK2 cells to titrate infectivity. Rotavirus infectivity was stabilized by

calcium and strontium ions in solution but not by magnesium ions. Rotavirus

isolates were found to be much less stable at 37 degrees C than at + 4 degrees C

or 20 degrees. A study of virus morphology at intervals during the course of the

experiment and treatment with the chelating agents EDTA and EGTA suggests that

loss of infectivity coincides with the removal of the outer capsid layer and

that calcium may be required to maintain virus integrity. Arch Virol.

1981;67(1):1- 9. Shirley JA, Beards GM, Thouless ME, Flewett TH

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> > > > > > > > > In the present paper, recent biochemical studies of

retroviruses carried out in our laboratory are summarized. Protein compositions,

peptide maps of internal structural proteins, neighborhoods of major structural

proteins, and serological properties of reverse transcriptases of type D virus

isolates from human cells (including Graffi's isolate termed PMFV and also

isolates from HeLa- and HEp-2 cells) were compared with those of type D viruses

from Old World (Mason-Pfizer virus of rhesus monkeys, langur virus) and New

World (squirrel monkey retrovirus) monkeys. The results provide various new

informations on, and further demonstrate the diversity of primate type D

viruses. Other studies showed that tumor promoting agents (phorbol ester TPA,

indole alkaloid teleocidin) are able to considerably increase, in a transient

manner, the production of type C and type D primate retroviruses in persistently

infected human cells. From experiments

> demonstrating a disintegrating activity of chelating agents (EDTA, EGTA) and

certain psychoactive drugs (including trifluoperazine) on various primate and

nonprimate retroviruses it is concluded that divalent cations, probably Ca2+

ions, and possibly also cation-binding proteins are associated with retroviral

membranes and that complexing of these components results in loss of viral

infectivity. Wunderlich Very, Uckert W, Sydow G Arch Geschwulstforsch.

1983;53(3):267- 78.

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not for the vit A protical it would not be, the vit D to get to that level would be toxic, mention BY the dr that created it

1 cup of raw carrots provides 428% of the vit A for a day.....according to the USDA list

Re: ALA - direct inhibitor of retroviral replication

I believe carrots don't actually contain Vitamin A, but the beta carotene in them is made into vitamin A if the body doesn't have a carotene conversion problem. Fish oil is really the best source.> > >> > > for us after 2 months we broke out in measels from head to toe confirmed by 4 drs' so we pushed it through a week of break out and then dropped it and it took 2 weeks for it disappear and then lang took off> > >>

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can you please tell me what did your son gain developmentaly after Vit A protocol, we have to do it but I have to know what to expect from it,

my son did NOT regress after MMR but his Titer is very high so we have to address that,

Thanks L

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Fri, November 27, 2009 11:21:30 AMSubject: Re: Re: ALA - direct inhibitor of retroviral replication

no we only did the low dose 5 drops a day, but again my son ate LARGE amount of carrots (a pound a day) and had clo while doing it so I was scared to do high dose

Re: ALA - direct inhibitor of retroviral replication

Christel,Did you do a higher vitamin A dosage for 2 months to get the measles out? That is great you got such good results on language.> >> > for us after 2 months we broke out in measels from

head to toe confirmed by 4 drs' so we pushed it through a week of break out and then dropped it and it took 2 weeks for it disappear and then lang took off> >

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for our son he gained lang very quickly, ability to spell, letters, colors, memorization, gains of skills quickly.

Re: ALA - direct inhibitor of retroviral replication

Christel,Did you do a higher vitamin A dosage for 2 months to get the measles out? That is great you got such good results on language.> >> > for us after 2 months we broke out in measels from head to toe confirmed by 4 drs' so we pushed it through a week of break out and then dropped it and it took 2 weeks for it disappear and then lang took off> >