Re: Cold Compression/ Cryo cuff Units

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Nat-

We have had 2 of the Game Ready units for 7+ years and have had great results

and reimbursement with them. Mcare is reimbursing aroun $12-13 per use. Our

initial ROI was less than a year. You will have to periodically update the wraps

( q 4 years) due to velcro wearing out.

FYI- check with other vendors for the Game Ready. Sammons preston often will

have higher prices

Gwilliam, PT, CWS

Dir. of Rehab

Bowie Memorial Hospital

>

> Hello all

>

> We are a hospital based outpatient clinic. I am doing a investment/recovery

analysis for a cold compression/cryo cuff unit.

>

> I am requesting help from members regarding information about reimbursement

rates for different insurance companies for using cryo cuff for managing post

operative swelling and pain.

>

> I am aware cryo cuff is an untimed modality but I don't know anything else. I

will appreciate information regarding which insurance companies pay for it which

don't.

>

> Also, I am looking at the Game ready system by sammons preston. If I can get

any reviews about this system used in a rehab set-up or if there are any other

similar systems.

>

>

> Thanks in advance

> Nat

> MI

>

[Guest guest]

,

What procedure code are you billing this under?

Engelberg, PT

Manager, Outpatient Rehabilitation

Orlando Health

321 841-6581

stephanie.engelberg@...

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Subject: Re: Cold Compression/ Cryo cuff Units

Nat-

We have had 2 of the Game Ready units for 7+ years and have had great results

and reimbursement with them. Mcare is reimbursing aroun $12-13 per use. Our

initial ROI was less than a year. You will have to periodically update the wraps

( q 4 years) due to velcro wearing out.

FYI- check with other vendors for the Game Ready. Sammons preston often will

have higher prices

Gwilliam, PT, CWS

Dir. of Rehab

Bowie Memorial Hospital

>

> Hello all

>

> We are a hospital based outpatient clinic. I am doing a investment/recovery

analysis for a cold compression/cryo cuff unit.

>

> I am requesting help from members regarding information about reimbursement

rates for different insurance companies for using cryo cuff for managing post

operative swelling and pain.

>

> I am aware cryo cuff is an untimed modality but I don't know anything else. I

will appreciate information regarding which insurance companies pay for it which

don't.

>

> Also, I am looking at the Game ready system by sammons preston. If I can get

any reviews about this system used in a rehab set-up or if there are any other

similar systems.

>

>

> Thanks in advance

> Nat

> MI

>

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?Hey ,

What are you billing it as?

What code are you using?

Thanks,

Re: Cold Compression/ Cryo cuff Units

Nat-

We have had 2 of the Game Ready units for 7+ years and have had great results

and reimbursement with them. Mcare is reimbursing aroun $12-13 per use. Our

initial ROI was less than a year. You will have to periodically update the wraps

( q 4 years) due to velcro wearing out.

FYI- check with other vendors for the Game Ready. Sammons preston often will

have higher prices

Gwilliam, PT, CWS

Dir. of Rehab

Bowie Memorial Hospital

>

> Hello all

>

> We are a hospital based outpatient clinic. I am doing a investment/recovery

analysis for a cold compression/cryo cuff unit.

>

> I am requesting help from members regarding information about reimbursement

rates for different insurance companies for using cryo cuff for managing post

operative swelling and pain.

>

> I am aware cryo cuff is an untimed modality but I don't know anything else.

I will appreciate information regarding which insurance companies pay for it

which don't.

>

> Also, I am looking at the Game ready system by sammons preston. If I can get

any reviews about this system used in a rehab set-up or if there are any other

similar systems.

>

>

> Thanks in advance

> Nat

> MI

>

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:

With what code and what MC carrier are you receiving reimbursement on the game

ready. Are you billing cryotherapy, compression, etc.,,

Thanks

Ric Baird, MS, PT, ATC

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> Nat-

>

> We have had 2 of the Game Ready units for 7+ years and have had great results

and reimbursement with them. Mcare is reimbursing aroun $12-13 per use. Our

initial ROI was less than a year. You will have to periodically update the wraps

( q 4 years) due to velcro wearing out.

>

> FYI- check with other vendors for the Game Ready. Sammons preston often will

have higher prices

>

> Gwilliam, PT, CWS

> Dir. of Rehab

> Bowie Memorial Hospital

>

>

> >

> > Hello all

> >

> > We are a hospital based outpatient clinic. I am doing a investment/recovery

analysis for a cold compression/cryo cuff unit.

> >

> > I am requesting help from members regarding information about reimbursement

rates for different insurance companies for using cryo cuff for managing post

operative swelling and pain.

> >

> > I am aware cryo cuff is an untimed modality but I don't know anything else.

I will appreciate information regarding which insurance companies pay for it

which don't.

> >

> > Also, I am looking at the Game ready system by sammons preston. If I can get

any reviews about this system used in a rehab set-up or if there are any other

similar systems.

> >

> >

> > Thanks in advance

> > Nat

> > MI

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

We bill under 97016 (vasopneumatic compression). Average reimbursement is $12

per use.

> >

> > Hello all

> >

> > We are a hospital based outpatient clinic. I am doing a investment/recovery

analysis for a cold compression/cryo cuff unit.

> >

> > I am requesting help from members regarding information about reimbursement

rates for different insurance companies for using cryo cuff for managing post

operative swelling and pain.

> >

> > I am aware cryo cuff is an untimed modality but I don't know anything else.

I will appreciate information regarding which insurance companies pay for it

which don't.

> >

> > Also, I am looking at the Game ready system by sammons preston. If I can get

any reviews about this system used in a rehab set-up or if there are any other

similar systems.

> >

> >

> > Thanks in advance

> > Nat

> > MI

> >

>

>

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[Guest guest]

We also use the Game Ready system in our outpatient clinics and bill under

" vasopneumatic compression " . This system provides cold along with

vasopneumatic compression and is useful for reducing swelling/edema in a

joint. It works well in this regard and patients love it. Be aware that

Insurance companies will deny the charges if there is no documentation

identifying the presence of swelling/edema by circumferential or volumetric

measurements for each session it is used.

Bob Lueke, PT

Madonna TherapyPlus

Lincoln, NE

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Check out: www.vitalwear.com . It works the same with much reasonable cost to

buy the unit.

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Re: Cold Compression/ Cryo cuff Units

We bill under 97016 (vasopneumatic compression). Average reimbursement

is $12 per use.

> >

> > Hello all

> >

> > We are a hospital based outpatient clinic. I am doing a

investment/recovery analysis for a cold compression/cryo cuff unit.

> >

> > I am requesting help from members regarding information about

reimbursement rates for different insurance companies for using cryo

cuff for managing post operative swelling and pain.

> >

> > I am aware cryo cuff is an untimed modality but I don't know

anything else. I will appreciate information regarding which insurance

companies pay for it which don't.

> >

> > Also, I am looking at the Game ready system by sammons preston. If I

can get any reviews about this system used in a rehab set-up or if there

are any other similar systems.

> >

> >

> > Thanks in advance

> > Nat

> > MI

> >

>

>

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