Re: The Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs About Putting Private Practices Out of Business

[Guest guest]

How can one (the public) ever trust a physician's advice knowing their

decision making is guided by how many bucks they can put in their pocket?

And when are we gonna expose it to everyone other than our own?

Why aren't everyone posting these links to their Facebook pages? Why aren't

each of us blast-forwarding these links to everyone in our address books, so

our accountants see it, out mechanics see it, our dentists see it, our

cousins, neighbors, pediatricians, pastors and priests, pharmacists and PTA

moms & dads?

When are we going to be ready to publicly call it corruption?

When are we going to embrace it all together around something other then the

Superbowl?

When are we going to call orthopedist incompetents in treating, lets say the

LBP?

When are we going to show the world that we are it. That we know it. We own

it and that no one better mess with us.

Are you afraid the physician will refer you one less patient this week?

We need not lay down and let the tank run us over.

If you think this is self serving, DON’T forget the public getting the short

end of the stick and being profited from much more than we are.

For the ones of us that are so fond of " policing " the world of PT: Who is

policing this? Who is going to protect the true and the righteous and

defend the public AND the taxpayer interest?

Are we waiting for the orthopedists to " police themselves " ? Or the newest

crook to encroach us, be it a podiatris, a chiropractor, an ATC or some

NASDQ traded corp for that matter?

When are we gonna call it like it is?

Are we so consumed by our own independent self existence that we are missing

to look at the collective WE that will forever change this physical

therapist landscape for the worst if not for the better?

Or are we waiting for somebody else to do it for us?

Your Senator?

Your Congressman?

Your Association?

They all already showed us what they are willing to do. That's why we are

here right now.

Our memories are too short and we forget very quick. These threads and

postings last one or two days and there we go with our " other " lives.

We - physiotherapists in private practice - sit in the way of " their "

" discretionary " profits. What for us is our livelihood, for " them " is

spending money. Is the new boat, the Country club membership subsidy, or

whatever. Corporate medicine plays with the public's right to chose for

their self-benefit and our professional ( & personal!) demise. And all that

perpetuated by the black sheep amongst our own, and we still shake hands and

play softball together.

Can anybody else, other than me, please, say " ENOUGH " ?

Thank you , for tirelessly posting these!

Shame on all of us for being mere spectators of our own destruction

unfolding.

Sincerely [concerned by our collective lack of back bone]

Armin Loges, PT

Tampa, FL

The Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs

About Putting Private Practices Out of Business

From STOPPOPTS.orgThe Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs About

Putting Private Practices Out of Business

March 9, 2011

Listen to this audio reference for a true understanding of the motives

behind physician owned physical therapy services. Profits before patients.

<http://stoppopts.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bigstock_Smoking_Gun_4399171.jp\

g>

<http://stoppopts.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bigstock_Smoking_Gun_4399171.jp\

g>

Here’s a small excerpt from this 12 minute presentation of how to profit

from your patients.

Reference: Click here to watch the entire

presentation.<http://www.orthosupersite.com/view.aspx?rid=64629>

Kovacek, PT, DPT, MSA

PKovacek@...

Cell (313) 492-4293

Personal Fax

www.PTManager.com

[Guest guest]

We should all get ready.

There will be a lot more coming to POPTS this 2011!

http://www.orthosupersite.com/view.aspx?rid=80220

Armin Loges, PT

Tampa, FL

From: Armin Loges

Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 11:04 AM

To: PTManager

Subject: Re: The Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs

About Putting Private Practices Out of Business

How can one (the public) ever trust a physician's advice knowing their

decision making is guided by how many bucks they can put in their pocket?

And when are we gonna expose it to everyone other than our own?

Why aren't everyone posting these links to their Facebook pages? Why aren't

each of us blast-forwarding these links to everyone in our address books, so

our accountants see it, out mechanics see it, our dentists see it, our

cousins, neighbors, pediatricians, pastors and priests, pharmacists and PTA

moms & dads?

When are we going to be ready to publicly call it corruption?

When are we going to embrace it all together around something other then the

Superbowl?

When are we going to call orthopedist incompetents in treating, lets say the

LBP?

When are we going to show the world that we are it. That we know it. We own

it and that no one better mess with us.

Are you afraid the physician will refer you one less patient this week?

We need not lay down and let the tank run us over.

If you think this is self serving, DON’T forget the public getting the short

end of the stick and being profited from much more than we are.

For the ones of us that are so fond of " policing " the world of PT: Who is

policing this? Who is going to protect the true and the righteous and

defend the public AND the taxpayer interest?

Are we waiting for the orthopedists to " police themselves " ? Or the newest

crook to encroach us, be it a podiatris, a chiropractor, an ATC or some

NASDQ traded corp for that matter?

When are we gonna call it like it is?

Are we so consumed by our own independent self existence that we are missing

to look at the collective WE that will forever change this physical

therapist landscape for the worst if not for the better?

Or are we waiting for somebody else to do it for us?

Your Senator?

Your Congressman?

Your Association?

They all already showed us what they are willing to do. That's why we are

here right now.

Our memories are too short and we forget very quick. These threads and

postings last one or two days and there we go with our " other " lives.

We - physiotherapists in private practice - sit in the way of " their "

" discretionary " profits. What for us is our livelihood, for " them " is

spending money. Is the new boat, the Country club membership subsidy, or

whatever. Corporate medicine plays with the public's right to chose for

their self-benefit and our professional ( & personal!) demise. And all that

perpetuated by the black sheep amongst our own, and we still shake hands and

play softball together.

Can anybody else, other than me, please, say " ENOUGH " ?

Thank you , for tirelessly posting these!

Shame on all of us for being mere spectators of our own destruction

unfolding.

Sincerely [concerned by our collective lack of back bone]

Armin Loges, PT

Tampa, FL

The Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs

About Putting Private Practices Out of Business

From STOPPOPTS.orgThe Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs About

Putting Private Practices Out of Business

March 9, 2011

Listen to this audio reference for a true understanding of the motives

behind physician owned physical therapy services. Profits before patients.

<http://stoppopts.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bigstock_Smoking_Gun_4399171.jp\

g>

<http://stoppopts.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bigstock_Smoking_Gun_4399171.jp\

g>

Here’s a small excerpt from this 12 minute presentation of how to profit

from your patients.

Reference: Click here to watch the entire

presentation.<http://www.orthosupersite.com/view.aspx?rid=64629>

Kovacek, PT, DPT, MSA

mailto:PKovacek%40PTManager.com

Cell

Personal Fax

www.PTManager.com

[Guest guest]

We should all get ready.

There will be a lot more coming to POPTS this 2011!

http://www.orthosupersite.com/view.aspx?rid=80220

Armin Loges, PT

Tampa, FL

From: Armin Loges

Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 11:04 AM

To: PTManager

Subject: Re: The Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs

About Putting Private Practices Out of Business

How can one (the public) ever trust a physician's advice knowing their

decision making is guided by how many bucks they can put in their pocket?

And when are we gonna expose it to everyone other than our own?

Why aren't everyone posting these links to their Facebook pages? Why aren't

each of us blast-forwarding these links to everyone in our address books, so

our accountants see it, out mechanics see it, our dentists see it, our

cousins, neighbors, pediatricians, pastors and priests, pharmacists and PTA

moms & dads?

When are we going to be ready to publicly call it corruption?

When are we going to embrace it all together around something other then the

Superbowl?

When are we going to call orthopedist incompetents in treating, lets say the

LBP?

When are we going to show the world that we are it. That we know it. We own

it and that no one better mess with us.

Are you afraid the physician will refer you one less patient this week?

We need not lay down and let the tank run us over.

If you think this is self serving, DON’T forget the public getting the short

end of the stick and being profited from much more than we are.

For the ones of us that are so fond of " policing " the world of PT: Who is

policing this? Who is going to protect the true and the righteous and

defend the public AND the taxpayer interest?

Are we waiting for the orthopedists to " police themselves " ? Or the newest

crook to encroach us, be it a podiatris, a chiropractor, an ATC or some

NASDQ traded corp for that matter?

When are we gonna call it like it is?

Are we so consumed by our own independent self existence that we are missing

to look at the collective WE that will forever change this physical

therapist landscape for the worst if not for the better?

Or are we waiting for somebody else to do it for us?

Your Senator?

Your Congressman?

Your Association?

They all already showed us what they are willing to do. That's why we are

here right now.

Our memories are too short and we forget very quick. These threads and

postings last one or two days and there we go with our " other " lives.

We - physiotherapists in private practice - sit in the way of " their "

" discretionary " profits. What for us is our livelihood, for " them " is

spending money. Is the new boat, the Country club membership subsidy, or

whatever. Corporate medicine plays with the public's right to chose for

their self-benefit and our professional ( & personal!) demise. And all that

perpetuated by the black sheep amongst our own, and we still shake hands and

play softball together.

Can anybody else, other than me, please, say " ENOUGH " ?

Thank you , for tirelessly posting these!

Shame on all of us for being mere spectators of our own destruction

unfolding.

Sincerely [concerned by our collective lack of back bone]

Armin Loges, PT

Tampa, FL

The Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs

About Putting Private Practices Out of Business

From STOPPOPTS.orgThe Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs About

Putting Private Practices Out of Business

March 9, 2011

Listen to this audio reference for a true understanding of the motives

behind physician owned physical therapy services. Profits before patients.

<http://stoppopts.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bigstock_Smoking_Gun_4399171.jp\

g>

<http://stoppopts.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bigstock_Smoking_Gun_4399171.jp\

g>

Here’s a small excerpt from this 12 minute presentation of how to profit

from your patients.

Reference: Click here to watch the entire

presentation.<http://www.orthosupersite.com/view.aspx?rid=64629>

Kovacek, PT, DPT, MSA

mailto:PKovacek%40PTManager.com

Cell

Personal Fax

www.PTManager.com

[Guest guest]

We will continue to dance around for a long time since we as PTs can't agree!

The hospital therapists in my region don't even care when the newspaper writes

up an article of a ATC and states he showing a patient Physical Therapy

exercises. When called on it was told dont be so touchy......... facility has

over 30 PTs working and only 5 are APTA members . The department head states

their is not need to be a member.......

I will be loosing my main clinic in may due to the ortho guys I have worked with

for 25 years hire 5 of my therapists away by stating that if they dont come they

will get someone else and you will not have any job.

Russ Nieland, PT,CHT

Duluth, MN

The Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs

About Putting Private Practices Out of Business

From STOPPOPTS.orgThe Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs About

Putting Private Practices Out of Business

March 9, 2011

Listen to this audio reference for a true understanding of the motives

behind physician owned physical therapy services. Profits before patients.

<

http://stoppopts.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bigstock_Smoking_Gun_4399171.jpg\

>

<

http://stoppopts.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bigstock_Smoking_Gun_4399171.jpg\

>

Here’s a small excerpt from this 12 minute presentation of how to profit

from your patients.

Reference: Click here to watch the entire

presentation.< http://www.orthosupersite.com/view.aspx?rid=64629>

Kovacek, PT, DPT, MSA

mailto:PKovacek%40PTManager.com

Cell

Personal Fax

www.PTManager.com

[Guest guest]

We will continue to dance around for a long time since we as PTs can't agree!

The hospital therapists in my region don't even care when the newspaper writes

up an article of a ATC and states he showing a patient Physical Therapy

exercises. When called on it was told dont be so touchy......... facility has

over 30 PTs working and only 5 are APTA members . The department head states

their is not need to be a member.......

I will be loosing my main clinic in may due to the ortho guys I have worked with

for 25 years hire 5 of my therapists away by stating that if they dont come they

will get someone else and you will not have any job.

Russ Nieland, PT,CHT

Duluth, MN

The Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs

About Putting Private Practices Out of Business

From STOPPOPTS.orgThe Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs About

Putting Private Practices Out of Business

March 9, 2011

Listen to this audio reference for a true understanding of the motives

behind physician owned physical therapy services. Profits before patients.

<

http://stoppopts.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bigstock_Smoking_Gun_4399171.jpg\

>

<

http://stoppopts.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bigstock_Smoking_Gun_4399171.jpg\

>

Here’s a small excerpt from this 12 minute presentation of how to profit

from your patients.

Reference: Click here to watch the entire

presentation.< http://www.orthosupersite.com/view.aspx?rid=64629>

Kovacek, PT, DPT, MSA

mailto:PKovacek%40PTManager.com

Cell

Personal Fax

www.PTManager.com

[Guest guest]

We will continue to dance around for a long time since we as PTs can't agree!

The hospital therapists in my region don't even care when the newspaper writes

up an article of a ATC and states he showing a patient Physical Therapy

exercises. When called on it was told dont be so touchy......... facility has

over 30 PTs working and only 5 are APTA members . The department head states

their is not need to be a member.......

I will be loosing my main clinic in may due to the ortho guys I have worked with

for 25 years hire 5 of my therapists away by stating that if they dont come they

will get someone else and you will not have any job.

Russ Nieland, PT,CHT

Duluth, MN

The Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs

About Putting Private Practices Out of Business

From STOPPOPTS.orgThe Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs About

Putting Private Practices Out of Business

March 9, 2011

Listen to this audio reference for a true understanding of the motives

behind physician owned physical therapy services. Profits before patients.

<

http://stoppopts.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bigstock_Smoking_Gun_4399171.jpg\

>

<

http://stoppopts.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bigstock_Smoking_Gun_4399171.jpg\

>

Here’s a small excerpt from this 12 minute presentation of how to profit

from your patients.

Reference: Click here to watch the entire

presentation.< http://www.orthosupersite.com/view.aspx?rid=64629>

Kovacek, PT, DPT, MSA

mailto:PKovacek%40PTManager.com

Cell

Personal Fax

www.PTManager.com

[Guest guest]

I am sorry to hear about your situation, but this will be the situation of most

of us in the very near future.

Lack of foresight is what affects the PT community.

When we close our clinics, we will seek jobs in hospitals.

Salaries will drop. But even if they didn’t, when ATC’s start billing MCB,

which they will eventually achieve by ways of orthopedist lobbying, who do you

think the hospital will hire?

Money talks. Follow the money.

Many of us talk about quality of our services, research based practices etc like

it was of any importance to any CFO anywhere, or the POPT office manager, or

Corporate insurance.

When we wake up to realize that is not the decision maker factor on any of the

issues that affect us, we will be better off.

We have acted like children for the last 50 years. We either need to group, take

a good real look of the world around us or we are going to be placed in time out

on the corner, because the bigger boys want the playground and they are gonna

bully us out of the park. They own the ball and they want us to pay if want to

play.

I used to think this was a private practice battle, but things are about to

change. All PTs are going to feel it.

Armin Loges, PT

Tampa, FL

From: Russ Nieland

Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:03 PM

To: PTManager

Subject: RE: The Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs

About Putting Private Practices Out of Business

We will continue to dance around for a long time since we as PTs can't agree!

The hospital therapists in my region don't even care when the newspaper writes

up an article of a ATC and states he showing a patient Physical Therapy

exercises. When called on it was told dont be so touchy......... facility has

over 30 PTs working and only 5 are APTA members . The department head states

their is not need to be a member.......

I will be loosing my main clinic in may due to the ortho guys I have worked with

for 25 years hire 5 of my therapists away by stating that if they dont come they

will get someone else and you will not have any job.

Russ Nieland, PT,CHT

Duluth, MN

The Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs

About Putting Private Practices Out of Business

From STOPPOPTS.orgThe Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs About

Putting Private Practices Out of Business

March 9, 2011

Listen to this audio reference for a true understanding of the motives

behind physician owned physical therapy services. Profits before patients.

<

http://stoppopts.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bigstock_Smoking_Gun_4399171.jpg\

>

<

http://stoppopts.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bigstock_Smoking_Gun_4399171.jpg\

>

Here’s a small excerpt from this 12 minute presentation of how to profit

from your patients.

Reference: Click here to watch the entire

presentation.< http://www.orthosupersite.com/view.aspx?rid=64629>

Kovacek, PT, DPT, MSA

mailto:PKovacek%40PTManager.com

Cell

Personal Fax

www.PTManager.com

[Guest guest]

I am sorry to hear about your situation, but this will be the situation of most

of us in the very near future.

Lack of foresight is what affects the PT community.

When we close our clinics, we will seek jobs in hospitals.

Salaries will drop. But even if they didn’t, when ATC’s start billing MCB,

which they will eventually achieve by ways of orthopedist lobbying, who do you

think the hospital will hire?

Money talks. Follow the money.

Many of us talk about quality of our services, research based practices etc like

it was of any importance to any CFO anywhere, or the POPT office manager, or

Corporate insurance.

When we wake up to realize that is not the decision maker factor on any of the

issues that affect us, we will be better off.

We have acted like children for the last 50 years. We either need to group, take

a good real look of the world around us or we are going to be placed in time out

on the corner, because the bigger boys want the playground and they are gonna

bully us out of the park. They own the ball and they want us to pay if want to

play.

I used to think this was a private practice battle, but things are about to

change. All PTs are going to feel it.

Armin Loges, PT

Tampa, FL

From: Russ Nieland

Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:03 PM

To: PTManager

Subject: RE: The Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs

About Putting Private Practices Out of Business

We will continue to dance around for a long time since we as PTs can't agree!

The hospital therapists in my region don't even care when the newspaper writes

up an article of a ATC and states he showing a patient Physical Therapy

exercises. When called on it was told dont be so touchy......... facility has

over 30 PTs working and only 5 are APTA members . The department head states

their is not need to be a member.......

I will be loosing my main clinic in may due to the ortho guys I have worked with

for 25 years hire 5 of my therapists away by stating that if they dont come they

will get someone else and you will not have any job.

Russ Nieland, PT,CHT

Duluth, MN

The Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs

About Putting Private Practices Out of Business

From STOPPOPTS.orgThe Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs About

Putting Private Practices Out of Business

March 9, 2011

Listen to this audio reference for a true understanding of the motives

behind physician owned physical therapy services. Profits before patients.

<

http://stoppopts.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bigstock_Smoking_Gun_4399171.jpg\

>

<

http://stoppopts.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bigstock_Smoking_Gun_4399171.jpg\

>

Here’s a small excerpt from this 12 minute presentation of how to profit

from your patients.

Reference: Click here to watch the entire

presentation.< http://www.orthosupersite.com/view.aspx?rid=64629>

Kovacek, PT, DPT, MSA

mailto:PKovacek%40PTManager.com

Cell

Personal Fax

www.PTManager.com

[Guest guest]

I am sorry to hear about your situation, but this will be the situation of most

of us in the very near future.

Lack of foresight is what affects the PT community.

When we close our clinics, we will seek jobs in hospitals.

Salaries will drop. But even if they didn’t, when ATC’s start billing MCB,

which they will eventually achieve by ways of orthopedist lobbying, who do you

think the hospital will hire?

Money talks. Follow the money.

Many of us talk about quality of our services, research based practices etc like

it was of any importance to any CFO anywhere, or the POPT office manager, or

Corporate insurance.

When we wake up to realize that is not the decision maker factor on any of the

issues that affect us, we will be better off.

We have acted like children for the last 50 years. We either need to group, take

a good real look of the world around us or we are going to be placed in time out

on the corner, because the bigger boys want the playground and they are gonna

bully us out of the park. They own the ball and they want us to pay if want to

play.

I used to think this was a private practice battle, but things are about to

change. All PTs are going to feel it.

Armin Loges, PT

Tampa, FL

From: Russ Nieland

Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:03 PM

To: PTManager

Subject: RE: The Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs

About Putting Private Practices Out of Business

We will continue to dance around for a long time since we as PTs can't agree!

The hospital therapists in my region don't even care when the newspaper writes

up an article of a ATC and states he showing a patient Physical Therapy

exercises. When called on it was told dont be so touchy......... facility has

over 30 PTs working and only 5 are APTA members . The department head states

their is not need to be a member.......

I will be loosing my main clinic in may due to the ortho guys I have worked with

for 25 years hire 5 of my therapists away by stating that if they dont come they

will get someone else and you will not have any job.

Russ Nieland, PT,CHT

Duluth, MN

The Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs

About Putting Private Practices Out of Business

From STOPPOPTS.orgThe Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs About

Putting Private Practices Out of Business

March 9, 2011

Listen to this audio reference for a true understanding of the motives

behind physician owned physical therapy services. Profits before patients.

<

http://stoppopts.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bigstock_Smoking_Gun_4399171.jpg\

>

<

http://stoppopts.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bigstock_Smoking_Gun_4399171.jpg\

>

Here’s a small excerpt from this 12 minute presentation of how to profit

from your patients.

Reference: Click here to watch the entire

presentation.< http://www.orthosupersite.com/view.aspx?rid=64629>

Kovacek, PT, DPT, MSA

mailto:PKovacek%40PTManager.com

Cell

Personal Fax

www.PTManager.com

[Guest guest]

I posted my response as have many other PT's. Speak out on this issue and sign

your name proudly--don't hide. This is utterly ridiculous and Dr. Bert's

response to the postings is even more amusing. Speak out--we have to stop this

proliferation of our profession!

Working. Better. Together.

Ric A. Baird, MS, PT, ATC

Interactive Physical Therapy & Fitness Center

4745 NW Hunters Ridge Circle

Suite D

Topeka, KS 66618

(785)246-2300 (P)

(785)246-2301 (F)

Interactive Physical Therapy

2018 SE 28th Street

Topeka, KS 66605

(P)

(F)

www.interactiveptandfitness.com

The Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs

About Putting Private Practices Out of Business

From STOPPOPTS.orgThe Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs About

Putting Private Practices Out of Business

March 9, 2011

Listen to this audio reference for a true understanding of the motives

behind physician owned physical therapy services. Profits before patients.

<http://stoppopts.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bigstock_Smoking_Gun_4399171.jp\

g>

<http://stoppopts.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bigstock_Smoking_Gun_4399171.jp\

g>

Here’s a small excerpt from this 12 minute presentation of how to profit

from your patients.

Reference: Click here to watch the entire

presentation.<http://www.orthosupersite.com/view.aspx?rid=64629>

Kovacek, PT, DPT, MSA

PKovacek@...

Cell

Personal Fax

www.PTManager.com

[Guest guest]

Did he think we were " physician extenders " ?

I wonder how physicians feel about the use of " Physician Extenders " . I am

referring to Advanced Nurse Practitioners & Physician Assistants. I see

their widespread use in MD practices but locally we also see them able to

practice in essentially indep. practice. Even within MD practices their

power is expanding, my wife was referred by a indep ANP last year to see a

specialist.. The specialist was called out for emergency and she was seen by

his ANP. On her second visit the problem remained and the ANP again saw her

with no pretense of referring to the specialist. I totally agree that the

ANP/PA can see routine issues and do routine follow up but really..

Only good thing is the wait times in MD offices have been reduced

dramatically.

BTW, I graduated in 1977 and never considered myself to be a physician

extender.

Steve Passmore PT, MS

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The Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs

About Putting Private Practices Out of Business

From STOPPOPTS.orgThe Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs About

Putting Private Practices Out of Business

March 9, 2011

Listen to this audio reference for a true understanding of the motives

behind physician owned physical therapy services. Profits before patients.

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1.jpg>

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Here's a small excerpt from this 12 minute presentation of how to profit

from your patients.

Reference: Click here to watch the entire

presentation.<http://www.orthosupersite.com/view.aspx?rid=64629>

Kovacek, PT, DPT, MSA

PKovacek@...

Cell (313) 492-4293

Personal Fax

www.PTManager.com

[Guest guest]

Did he think we were " physician extenders " ?

I wonder how physicians feel about the use of " Physician Extenders " . I am

referring to Advanced Nurse Practitioners & Physician Assistants. I see

their widespread use in MD practices but locally we also see them able to

practice in essentially indep. practice. Even within MD practices their

power is expanding, my wife was referred by a indep ANP last year to see a

specialist.. The specialist was called out for emergency and she was seen by

his ANP. On her second visit the problem remained and the ANP again saw her

with no pretense of referring to the specialist. I totally agree that the

ANP/PA can see routine issues and do routine follow up but really..

Only good thing is the wait times in MD offices have been reduced

dramatically.

BTW, I graduated in 1977 and never considered myself to be a physician

extender.

Steve Passmore PT, MS

Healthy Recruiting Tools

spass@...

Phone:

Fax:

" What We Did For You Yesterday Is History. What Can We Do For You Today "

Recruiting Tools: Cold Calls ~ List Enhancement ~ Direct Mailers ~ Card

Design ~ Recruiting Software

The Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs

About Putting Private Practices Out of Business

From STOPPOPTS.orgThe Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs About

Putting Private Practices Out of Business

March 9, 2011

Listen to this audio reference for a true understanding of the motives

behind physician owned physical therapy services. Profits before patients.

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<http://stoppopts.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bigstock_Smoking_Gun_439917

1.jpg>

Here's a small excerpt from this 12 minute presentation of how to profit

from your patients.

Reference: Click here to watch the entire

presentation.<http://www.orthosupersite.com/view.aspx?rid=64629>

Kovacek, PT, DPT, MSA

PKovacek@...

Cell (313) 492-4293

Personal Fax

www.PTManager.com

[Guest guest]

Did he think we were " physician extenders " ?

I wonder how physicians feel about the use of " Physician Extenders " . I am

referring to Advanced Nurse Practitioners & Physician Assistants. I see

their widespread use in MD practices but locally we also see them able to

practice in essentially indep. practice. Even within MD practices their

power is expanding, my wife was referred by a indep ANP last year to see a

specialist.. The specialist was called out for emergency and she was seen by

his ANP. On her second visit the problem remained and the ANP again saw her

with no pretense of referring to the specialist. I totally agree that the

ANP/PA can see routine issues and do routine follow up but really..

Only good thing is the wait times in MD offices have been reduced

dramatically.

BTW, I graduated in 1977 and never considered myself to be a physician

extender.

Steve Passmore PT, MS

Healthy Recruiting Tools

spass@...

Phone:

Fax:

" What We Did For You Yesterday Is History. What Can We Do For You Today "

Recruiting Tools: Cold Calls ~ List Enhancement ~ Direct Mailers ~ Card

Design ~ Recruiting Software

The Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs

About Putting Private Practices Out of Business

From STOPPOPTS.orgThe Smoking Gun-Orthopedic Doctor Consultant Laughs About

Putting Private Practices Out of Business

March 9, 2011

Listen to this audio reference for a true understanding of the motives

behind physician owned physical therapy services. Profits before patients.

<http://stoppopts.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bigstock_Smoking_Gun_439917

1.jpg>

<http://stoppopts.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bigstock_Smoking_Gun_439917

1.jpg>

Here's a small excerpt from this 12 minute presentation of how to profit

from your patients.

Reference: Click here to watch the entire

presentation.<http://www.orthosupersite.com/view.aspx?rid=64629>

Kovacek, PT, DPT, MSA

PKovacek@...

Cell (313) 492-4293

Personal Fax

www.PTManager.com