Guest guest Posted July 22, 2002 Report Share Posted July 22, 2002 Yeah. My personal need for all that kind of stuff went away permanently a few days after I started a sulfur restriction diet. Do you know his plasma cysteine level? Andy . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . > Hi-- off topic, I wanted to ask if anyone has suggestions in terms of > safety of different asthma meds. Ethan is having daily asthma > attacks, which is not a good thing (actually he had TWO today). I am > considering putting him on a daily inhaler of cromolyn sodium or > perhaps a steroid inhaler. Does anyone have any personal experience > they can offer me to help me in my decision? > > M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 , My 4yo son uses Flovent inhaler twice a day and it has helped tremendously. He's been on it since 2 1/2. Before that he was constantly sick and hospitalized twice for bad attacks. Since he's been on Flovent he's rarely sick and has had only one mild attack! --- merrywbee <maryandphilip@...> wrote: > Hi-- off topic, I wanted to ask if anyone has > suggestions in terms of > safety of different asthma meds. Ethan is having > daily asthma > attacks, which is not a good thing (actually he had > TWO today). I am > considering putting him on a daily inhaler of > cromolyn sodium or > perhaps a steroid inhaler. Does anyone have any > personal experience > they can offer me to help me in my decision? > > W > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 In a message dated 23/07/2002 19:11:10 GMT Daylight Time, tavalon@... writes: > Also, I have a theory about asthma, diabetes, autism, and ADD. I think they > may all be part of an environmental toxin problem. I know they all have > autoimmune aspects. Did you know that pediatric asthma is also increasing > at much the same epidemic rate as autism? So is ADD. I haven't research the > diabetes so I can't say on that one. I just lumped it in because it's known > to be an autoimmune disease in childhood. With the asthma, they haven't > been able to correlate it with environmental pollution which you would > think would be the biggest indicator. But what if the pollution is internal > rather than external and actually manifests in the lungs as opposed to the > brain? Just makes me go, hmmmm. > > Terri > Hi Terri Have you had a look at " In Harms Way " - full document availbale on the web this is the link if you haven't seen it - your theory matches theirs http://www.igc.org/psr/ Mandi in UK PS I think we ought to clone you too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 Does your son have a good pediatrician well versed in Asthma? Flovent and Cromolyn are very different and yet each can work well. I personally use flovent. Cromolyn caused me to have a chronic cough. Some people get a chronic cough from flovent and other corticosteroid sprays, so trying different things is good. However, with Flovent and other corticosteroids, it is important to use them for at least a month before deciding if they are helpful. They are not the drugs you use for an actual attack, they are the drugs you use to avoid future attacks. Albuterol is one of the best short acting bronchodilators (things to help open the lungs when the asthma attack is already underway). One of the biggest mistakes I saw when I was an ER nurse was parents only treating the attacks and not using the maintenance meds or using them incorrectly. That's why I think you need to have an MD who specializes in pediatric asthma management helping you to set up your treatment plan and then you really need to stick closely to it. It can make a huge difference. Also, I have a theory about asthma, diabetes, autism, and ADD. I think they may all be part of an environmental toxin problem. I know they all have autoimmune aspects. Did you know that pediatric asthma is also increasing at much the same epidemic rate as autism? So is ADD. I haven't research the diabetes so I can't say on that one. I just lumped it in because it's known to be an autoimmune disease in childhood. With the asthma, they haven't been able to correlate it with environmental pollution which you would think would be the biggest indicator. But what if the pollution is internal rather than external and actually manifests in the lungs as opposed to the brain? Just makes me go, hmmmm. Terri Re: [ ] OT: asthma , My 4yo son uses Flovent inhaler twice a day and it has helped tremendously. He's been on it since 2 1/2. Before that he was constantly sick and hospitalized twice for bad attacks. Since he's been on Flovent he's rarely sick and has had only one mild attack! --- merrywbee <maryandphilip@...> wrote: > Hi-- off topic, I wanted to ask if anyone has > suggestions in terms of > safety of different asthma meds. Ethan is having > daily asthma > attacks, which is not a good thing (actually he had > TWO today). I am > considering putting him on a daily inhaler of > cromolyn sodium or > perhaps a steroid inhaler. Does anyone have any > personal experience > they can offer me to help me in my decision? > > W > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 Terri, You are right on with the environmental link to asthma, ADD, diabetes, autism and many other diseases. I am in the midst of research into the environmental effects of one of the toxins, xylene, and neurological disorders. According to the standard literature there is no direct evidence of this but I think there is a " backdoor " mechanism related to glycine and the conversion of glycine to serine. It is a long and convoluted pathway but the evidence is clear. Asthma is tied in very neatly to this problem also. In health, Mark Schauss www.carbonbased.com Re: [ ] OT: asthma Does your son have a good pediatrician well versed in Asthma? Flovent and Cromolyn are very different and yet each can work well. I personally use flovent. Cromolyn caused me to have a chronic cough. Some people get a chronic cough from flovent and other corticosteroid sprays, so trying different things is good. However, with Flovent and other corticosteroids, it is important to use them for at least a month before deciding if they are helpful. They are not the drugs you use for an actual attack, they are the drugs you use to avoid future attacks. Albuterol is one of the best short acting bronchodilators (things to help open the lungs when the asthma attack is already underway). One of the biggest mistakes I saw when I was an ER nurse was parents only treating the attacks and not using the maintenance meds or using them incorrectly. That's why I think you need to have an MD who specializes in pediatric asthma management helping you to set up your treatment plan and then you really need to stick closely to it. It can make a huge difference. Also, I have a theory about asthma, diabetes, autism, and ADD. I think they may all be part of an environmental toxin problem. I know they all have autoimmune aspects. Did you know that pediatric asthma is also increasing at much the same epidemic rate as autism? So is ADD. I haven't research the diabetes so I can't say on that one. I just lumped it in because it's known to be an autoimmune disease in childhood. With the asthma, they haven't been able to correlate it with environmental pollution which you would think would be the biggest indicator. But what if the pollution is internal rather than external and actually manifests in the lungs as opposed to the brain? Just makes me go, hmmmm. Terri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 Wow, I'd like to hear more about this, privately, if you would rather not clutter up the list. Terri Re: [ ] OT: asthma Does your son have a good pediatrician well versed in Asthma? Flovent and Cromolyn are very different and yet each can work well. I personally use flovent. Cromolyn caused me to have a chronic cough. Some people get a chronic cough from flovent and other corticosteroid sprays, so trying different things is good. However, with Flovent and other corticosteroids, it is important to use them for at least a month before deciding if they are helpful. They are not the drugs you use for an actual attack, they are the drugs you use to avoid future attacks. Albuterol is one of the best short acting bronchodilators (things to help open the lungs when the asthma attack is already underway). One of the biggest mistakes I saw when I was an ER nurse was parents only treating the attacks and not using the maintenance meds or using them incorrectly. That's why I think you need to have an MD who specializes in pediatric asthma management helping you to set up your treatment plan and then you really need to stick closely to it. It can make a huge difference. Also, I have a theory about asthma, diabetes, autism, and ADD. I think they may all be part of an environmental toxin problem. I know they all have autoimmune aspects. Did you know that pediatric asthma is also increasing at much the same epidemic rate as autism? So is ADD. I haven't research the diabetes so I can't say on that one. I just lumped it in because it's known to be an autoimmune disease in childhood. With the asthma, they haven't been able to correlate it with environmental pollution which you would think would be the biggest indicator. But what if the pollution is internal rather than external and actually manifests in the lungs as opposed to the brain? Just makes me go, hmmmm. Terri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 Terri --Oh I definitely think the pollution is internal as well as external... I have been told that the lungs is one of the body's detoxification systems, and so it makes sense that if the other detox systems are not working well, the lungs cannot do their job, get inflamed, etc. Our doc also explained that the gut lining, lung, and skin all came from the same epithelial (?) cell structures in the embryonic stage, and so that is why kids with gut problems tend to get asthma, and then may eventually get eczema too. One thing affects the other. Yes, I was aware that asthma rates are skyrocketing, so is add/adhd, and diabetes--well, a little boy we know just got diagnosed and it scares me to think that it is increasing, too. My folks are just getting back from a trip to vietnam and I was just at the grocery store buying some food to stock their fridge... and I was depressed thinking about our food supply here in the u.s. They are coming from eating fresh fruits and veggies and meats, etc.-- whole foods, and we eat such junk here. Boxes of " dead " food. Is it any wonder that we are so sick. Thanks for your info on the cromolyn/flovent... we have an appt tomorrow... I don't know if he specializes in it, but he does seem knowledgeable. I will talk things over with him. W > Does your son have a good pediatrician well versed in Asthma? Flovent and Cromolyn are very different and yet each can work well. I personally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 Mark-- what is xylene found in? > Terri, > > You are right on with the environmental link to asthma, ADD, diabetes, > autism and many other diseases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 No, I hadn't. But I will. Thanks. Terri Hi Terri Have you had a look at " In Harms Way " - full document availbale on the web this is the link if you haven't seen it - your theory matches theirs http://www.igc.org/psr/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 W I read that asthma will go away completely on a paleo diet. See www.paleodiet.com Hope that helps see also neanderthin.com > Ethan is having daily asthma >attacks, which is not a good thing (actually he had TWO today). I am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 > Also, I have a theory about asthma, diabetes, autism, and ADD. I think they may all be part of an environmental toxin problem. I know they all have autoimmune aspects. Did you know that pediatric asthma is also increasing at much the same epidemic rate as autism? So is ADD. I haven't research the diabetes so I can't say on that one. I just lumped it in because it's known to be an autoimmune disease in childhood. With the asthma, they haven't been able to correlate it with environmental pollution which you would think would be the biggest indicator. But what if the pollution is internal rather than external and actually manifests in the lungs as opposed to the brain? Just makes me go, hmmmm. > > Terri Hi Terri, I think you would really enjoy reading Cave's book: What Your Doctor May NOT Tell You About Children's Vaccinations. There is a chapter about autoimmune issues--- not sure what to say about it --- interesting? horrifying? Well, definatly more info to add to your theory! /files/Books_about_autism best wishes, Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 I don't know of a group, but two of my children have it. We have the plastic covers for the mattress, wash ALL bedding once a week in hot water for dust mites. We even yanked out our carpets and put in wood floors. ( I know that is drastic) There are allergy shots. And not all allergists/ pulmonologisrs are the same. Ask around and get to the best. Use a spirometer. And at the first sniff of a cold, start the inhalers or prednisone. One sniff and begin. No delay. Sent from my iPod On Apr 27, 2010, at 8:23 PM, ajaomom@... wrote: > Looking for a good support group for kids with asthma and allergies > any > suggestions? Although Holly has asthma too, its actually that I > am > needing support for. Found out today when we took him to the > pulmonologist in > Feb, he was breathing like a 50 year old smoker, at 14 and a non > smoker > ever, its not a good thing. Also found out today he is severely > allergic to > dust. Help friends!!!! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 I also joined the group that Beth is mentioning (thanks, Beth!) and it's a great one to find resources and crucial advice on treating asthma. My son has moderate persistant since he was 19 months old and it's a daily issue around here to figure out meds and especially during pollen season . -Hadley > > There is an awesome group for this: I am very active in that group as well.  It's called Families_ Dealing_With_ Asthma. They discuss both allergies and asthma and have been extremely helpful to me over the years. >  Beth > " We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust our sails " > > > > > ________________________________ > From: " ajaomom@... " <ajaomom@...> > > Sent: Tue, April 27, 2010 10:23:20 PM > Subject: OT: Asthma > >  > Looking for a good support group for kids with asthma and allergies any > suggestions? Although Holly has asthma too, its actually that I am > needing support for. Found out today when we took him to the pulmonologist in > Feb, he was breathing like a 50 year old smoker, at 14 and a non smoker > ever, its not a good thing. Also found out today he is severely allergic to > dust. Help friends!!!! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Hey Hadey; I was wondering how things were going with . I was hoping no news is good news.  Beth " We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust our sails " ________________________________ From: hadley_messner <hmessner@...> Sent: Wed, April 28, 2010 10:40:51 AM Subject: Re: OT: Asthma  I also joined the group that Beth is mentioning (thanks, Beth!) and it's a great one to find resources and crucial advice on treating asthma. My son has moderate persistant since he was 19 months old and it's a daily issue around here to figure out meds and especially during pollen season . -Hadley > > There is an awesome group for this: I am very active in that group as well.  It's called Families_ Dealing_With_ Asthma. They discuss both allergies and asthma and have been extremely helpful to me over the years. >  Beth > " We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust our sails " > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: " ajaomom@... " <ajaomom@... > > @group s.com > Sent: Tue, April 27, 2010 10:23:20 PM > Subject: OT: Asthma > >  > Looking for a good support group for kids with asthma and allergies any > suggestions? Although Holly has asthma too, its actually that I am > needing support for. Found out today when we took him to the pulmonologist in > Feb, he was breathing like a 50 year old smoker, at 14 and a non smoker > ever, its not a good thing. Also found out today he is severely allergic to > dust. Help friends!!!! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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