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Just curious. With the right to treat joints and perform rehabilitative

exercises and with having massage therapists in their offices to cover the soft

tissue portion of manual therapy, it sounds like they have a substantial portion

of physical therapy covered. Exactly what is the " physical therapy " that

they're not permitted to do? Other than modalities (which many chiropractors

utilize as well), I'm hard pressed to think of any portion of physical therapy

that hasn't been co-opted by some other group. ly, I'm getting a bit tired

of cleaning up the messes left by personal trainers, massage therapists, and

especially, the growing group of assorted whackadoodle chicken blood dispensers

when patients are mismanaged by these personnel. I lectured around the country

for many years on integrating effective elements of

alternative/complementary/holistic approaches with conventional manual and

movement therapy aspects of physical therapy so I'm open and supportive of

non-traditional viewpoints which can enhance patient care but the situation is

just getting to be over the top. The classic one was a massage therapist who

approached me marketing her services. I asked her 3 simple clinical questions

and she didn't have a clue. When asked about her anatomy education, she proudly

informed me her " textbook " in her education was The Coloring Book of Anatomy! I

brought out my old classic 35th British edition of Gray's Anatomy and the newer

Primal 3D Interactive Series and politely suggested she may want to beef up her

education a bit.

, PT, OCS

Marquette, MI

Chrio providing " PT " in Michigan

Hi Group,

Evaluated a pt last week who had been seeing a chiropractor for the past 3-4

months after an auto accident. Pt said that the chiro had also been doing " PT "

which consisted of horiffic resisted neck exercises, hanging head off table,

etc. Pt said chiro told her he had " taken some classes " in PT. Any suggestions

on how to address this? Contact the chiro directly, Mich. State Board?

Thanks!

Chris

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If I am following correctly, I feel this goes back to the state practice act to

determine if it is written that a chiro cannot advertise " physical therapy " . If

it is not stated in the practice act then we are letting them get away with it.

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> Just curious. With the right to treat joints and perform rehabilitative

exercises and with having massage therapists in their offices to cover the soft

tissue portion of manual therapy, it sounds like they have a substantial portion

of physical therapy covered. Exactly what is the " physical therapy " that they're

not permitted to do? Other than modalities (which many chiropractors utilize as

well), I'm hard pressed to think of any portion of physical therapy that hasn't

been co-opted by some other group. ly, I'm getting a bit tired of cleaning

up the messes left by personal trainers, massage therapists, and especially, the

growing group of assorted whackadoodle chicken blood dispensers when patients

are mismanaged by these personnel. I lectured around the country for many years

on integrating effective elements of alternative/complementary/holistic

approaches with conventional manual and movement therapy aspects of physical

therapy so I'm open and supportive of non-traditional viewpoints which can

enhance patient care but the situation is just getting to be over the top. The

classic one was a massage therapist who approached me marketing her services. I

asked her 3 simple clinical questions and she didn't have a clue. When asked

about her anatomy education, she proudly informed me her " textbook " in her

education was The Coloring Book of Anatomy! I brought out my old classic 35th

British edition of Gray's Anatomy and the newer Primal 3D Interactive Series and

politely suggested she may want to beef up her education a bit.

>

> , PT, OCS

> Marquette, MI

>

> Chrio providing " PT " in Michigan

>

> Hi Group,

>

> Evaluated a pt last week who had been seeing a chiropractor for the past 3-4

> months after an auto accident. Pt said that the chiro had also been doing " PT "

> which consisted of horiffic resisted neck exercises, hanging head off table,

> etc. Pt said chiro told her he had " taken some classes " in PT. Any suggestions

> on how to address this? Contact the chiro directly, Mich. State Board?

>

> Thanks!

>

> Chris

>

>

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If I am following correctly, I feel this goes back to the state practice act to

determine if it is written that a chiro cannot advertise " physical therapy " . If

it is not stated in the practice act then we are letting them get away with it.

Sent from my iPhone

> ,

> Just curious. With the right to treat joints and perform rehabilitative

exercises and with having massage therapists in their offices to cover the soft

tissue portion of manual therapy, it sounds like they have a substantial portion

of physical therapy covered. Exactly what is the " physical therapy " that they're

not permitted to do? Other than modalities (which many chiropractors utilize as

well), I'm hard pressed to think of any portion of physical therapy that hasn't

been co-opted by some other group. ly, I'm getting a bit tired of cleaning

up the messes left by personal trainers, massage therapists, and especially, the

growing group of assorted whackadoodle chicken blood dispensers when patients

are mismanaged by these personnel. I lectured around the country for many years

on integrating effective elements of alternative/complementary/holistic

approaches with conventional manual and movement therapy aspects of physical

therapy so I'm open and supportive of non-traditional viewpoints which can

enhance patient care but the situation is just getting to be over the top. The

classic one was a massage therapist who approached me marketing her services. I

asked her 3 simple clinical questions and she didn't have a clue. When asked

about her anatomy education, she proudly informed me her " textbook " in her

education was The Coloring Book of Anatomy! I brought out my old classic 35th

British edition of Gray's Anatomy and the newer Primal 3D Interactive Series and

politely suggested she may want to beef up her education a bit.

>

> , PT, OCS

> Marquette, MI

>

> Chrio providing " PT " in Michigan

>

> Hi Group,

>

> Evaluated a pt last week who had been seeing a chiropractor for the past 3-4

> months after an auto accident. Pt said that the chiro had also been doing " PT "

> which consisted of horiffic resisted neck exercises, hanging head off table,

> etc. Pt said chiro told her he had " taken some classes " in PT. Any suggestions

> on how to address this? Contact the chiro directly, Mich. State Board?

>

> Thanks!

>

> Chris

>

>

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