RE: Re: A new medicare reg

[Guest guest]

Hi, Barrett -

An old Army expression: " Show me the Reg! "

Happy New Year,

Dick Hillyer, PT, DPT,MBA,MSM

_____

From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf

Of Barrett Dorko

Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 9:51 AM

To: PTManager

Subject: Re: A new medicare reg

I'm being plagued by my current manager to bring in my original license to

display. I'm just a contract guy and my pocket license has always been

sufficient in the past. She says " this is a new Medicare regulation. "

The manager likes to imagine I actually work for her and will say pretty

much anything. I simply don't believe this latest.

Anybody know anything about this?

Barrett L. Dorko P.T.

Cuyahoga Falls Ohio

Barrettdorko.com

Somasimple.com

[Guest guest]

Hi, Barrett -

An old Army expression: " Show me the Reg! "

Happy New Year,

Dick Hillyer, PT, DPT,MBA,MSM

_____

From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf

Of Barrett Dorko

Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 9:51 AM

To: PTManager

Subject: Re: A new medicare reg

I'm being plagued by my current manager to bring in my original license to

display. I'm just a contract guy and my pocket license has always been

sufficient in the past. She says " this is a new Medicare regulation. "

The manager likes to imagine I actually work for her and will say pretty

much anything. I simply don't believe this latest.

Anybody know anything about this?

Barrett L. Dorko P.T.

Cuyahoga Falls Ohio

Barrettdorko.com

Somasimple.com

[Guest guest]

Hi, Barrett -

An old Army expression: " Show me the Reg! "

Happy New Year,

Dick Hillyer, PT, DPT,MBA,MSM

_____

From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf

Of Barrett Dorko

Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 9:51 AM

To: PTManager

Subject: Re: A new medicare reg

I'm being plagued by my current manager to bring in my original license to

display. I'm just a contract guy and my pocket license has always been

sufficient in the past. She says " this is a new Medicare regulation. "

The manager likes to imagine I actually work for her and will say pretty

much anything. I simply don't believe this latest.

Anybody know anything about this?

Barrett L. Dorko P.T.

Cuyahoga Falls Ohio

Barrettdorko.com

Somasimple.com

[Guest guest]

Barret I am unaware of any medicare reg as licensure is a state issue. I know

here in NJ that the state reg does require the original. Do the Ohio Licensure

Regs require it and perhaps she is confused?

Jim Dunleavy PT, MS

Re: A new medicare reg

I'm being plagued by my current manager to bring in my original license to

display. I'm just a contract guy and my pocket license has always been

sufficient in the past. She says " this is a new Medicare regulation. "

The manager likes to imagine I actually work for her and will say pretty

much anything. I simply don't believe this latest.

Anybody know anything about this?

Barrett L. Dorko P.T.

Cuyahoga Falls Ohio

Barrettdorko.com

Somasimple.com

[Guest guest]

Barrett,

We have gotten away with very nice color copies of our licenses.  They look

like the original but if copied show up poorly and with the copy written all

over it.  This gives us a little security should someone take it off the wall

and modify it.  As for a Medicare regualtion I have not seen the documentation,

it is a state law here in MI.

Jill Sedmak, PT, MSPT, ATC

Clinton Twp, MI

Subject: RE: Re: A new medicare reg

To: PTManager

Date: Saturday, January 15, 2011, 12:44 PM

 

Hi, Barrett -

An old Army expression: " Show me the Reg! "

Happy New Year,

Dick Hillyer, PT, DPT,MBA,MSM

_____

From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf

Of Barrett Dorko

Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 9:51 AM

To: PTManager

Subject: Re: A new medicare reg

I'm being plagued by my current manager to bring in my original license to

display. I'm just a contract guy and my pocket license has always been

sufficient in the past. She says " this is a new Medicare regulation. "

The manager likes to imagine I actually work for her and will say pretty

much anything. I simply don't believe this latest.

Anybody know anything about this?

Barrett L. Dorko P.T.

Cuyahoga Falls Ohio

Barrettdorko.com

Somasimple.com

[Guest guest]

Some surveyors still like to see them " hanging up " but there is no

regulation I am aware of. When I am faced with these issues, I simply

ask to see the regulation that backs up the request

Ron Barbato PT

Administrative Director, Rehabilitation Services

Program Director, Cancer Support Services

Ephraim McDowell Health

Voice:

rbarbato@...

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Re: A new medicare reg

I'm being plagued by my current manager to bring in my original license

to

display. I'm just a contract guy and my pocket license has always been

sufficient in the past. She says " this is a new Medicare regulation. "

The manager likes to imagine I actually work for her and will say pretty

much anything. I simply don't believe this latest.

Anybody know anything about this?

Barrett L. Dorko P.T.

Cuyahoga Falls Ohio

Barrettdorko.com

Somasimple.com

[Guest guest]

It had been my experience in the last several clinics that the licenses

even of travelers need to be posted. I am not sure of which regulation

it is but I believe there is one.

Thanks!

~Jen I.

________________________________

From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On

Behalf Of Ron Barbato

Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 7:47 AM

To: PTManager

Subject: RE: Re: A new medicare reg

Some surveyors still like to see them " hanging up " but there is no

regulation I am aware of. When I am faced with these issues, I simply

ask to see the regulation that backs up the request

Ron Barbato PT

Administrative Director, Rehabilitation Services

Program Director, Cancer Support Services

Ephraim McDowell Health

Voice:

rbarbato@... <mailto:rbarbato%40emrmc.org>

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Re: A new medicare reg

I'm being plagued by my current manager to bring in my original license

to

display. I'm just a contract guy and my pocket license has always been

sufficient in the past. She says " this is a new Medicare regulation. "

The manager likes to imagine I actually work for her and will say pretty

much anything. I simply don't believe this latest.

Anybody know anything about this?

Barrett L. Dorko P.T.

Cuyahoga Falls Ohio

Barrettdorko.com

Somasimple.com

[Guest guest]

I know the Alabama Board of PT has made posting of licensure mandatory

beginning January 1, 2011 but did not state it had to be an original. I

have not heard of it being a Medicare Reg just a state reg.

Pam

Pamela J. Harbert, LPTA

Therapy Supervisor

Henry County Health & Rehabilitation

212 Dothan Road

Abbeville, AL 36310

pharbert@...

ext 2029

Fax

" Excellence is not a skill. It is an attitude. "

_____

From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf

Of selenahorner

Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 6:13 PM

To: PTManager

Subject: Re: A new medicare reg

Barrett,

Here's the Medicare Benefit Policy Manual...

https://www.cms.gov/manuals/Downloads/bp102c15.pdf To my knowledge, that

kind of thing hasn't changed in Medicare regulations.

>From a the perspective of a state practice act, I could see a license

needing to be posted for public to see. (Hair dresses have to and they are

" contract " professionals.) I would not see her request as being unusual from

a legal perspective. I would also think, in light of fraud and abuse, it

would be a necessity to actually know you were a physical therapist. She

could probably verify this online though - I know MI has a license

verification online and a way to easily know if the licensee is in good

standing.

Selena Horner, PT

ton, MI

>

> I'm being plagued by my current manager to bring in my original license to

> display. I'm just a contract guy and my pocket license has always been

> sufficient in the past. She says " this is a new Medicare regulation. "

>

>

>

> The manager likes to imagine I actually work for her and will say pretty

> much anything. I simply don't believe this latest.

>

>

>

> Anybody know anything about this?

>

>

>

> Barrett L. Dorko P.T.

>

> Cuyahoga Falls Ohio

>

> Barrettdorko.com

>

> Somasimple.com

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I know the Alabama Board of PT has made posting of licensure mandatory

beginning January 1, 2011 but did not state it had to be an original. I

have not heard of it being a Medicare Reg just a state reg.

Pam

Pamela J. Harbert, LPTA

Therapy Supervisor

Henry County Health & Rehabilitation

212 Dothan Road

Abbeville, AL 36310

pharbert@...

ext 2029

Fax

" Excellence is not a skill. It is an attitude. "

_____

From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf

Of selenahorner

Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 6:13 PM

To: PTManager

Subject: Re: A new medicare reg

Barrett,

Here's the Medicare Benefit Policy Manual...

https://www.cms.gov/manuals/Downloads/bp102c15.pdf To my knowledge, that

kind of thing hasn't changed in Medicare regulations.

>From a the perspective of a state practice act, I could see a license

needing to be posted for public to see. (Hair dresses have to and they are

" contract " professionals.) I would not see her request as being unusual from

a legal perspective. I would also think, in light of fraud and abuse, it

would be a necessity to actually know you were a physical therapist. She

could probably verify this online though - I know MI has a license

verification online and a way to easily know if the licensee is in good

standing.

Selena Horner, PT

ton, MI

>

> I'm being plagued by my current manager to bring in my original license to

> display. I'm just a contract guy and my pocket license has always been

> sufficient in the past. She says " this is a new Medicare regulation. "

>

>

>

> The manager likes to imagine I actually work for her and will say pretty

> much anything. I simply don't believe this latest.

>

>

>

> Anybody know anything about this?

>

>

>

> Barrett L. Dorko P.T.

>

> Cuyahoga Falls Ohio

>

> Barrettdorko.com

>

> Somasimple.com

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I know the Alabama Board of PT has made posting of licensure mandatory

beginning January 1, 2011 but did not state it had to be an original. I

have not heard of it being a Medicare Reg just a state reg.

Pam

Pamela J. Harbert, LPTA

Therapy Supervisor

Henry County Health & Rehabilitation

212 Dothan Road

Abbeville, AL 36310

pharbert@...

ext 2029

Fax

" Excellence is not a skill. It is an attitude. "

_____

From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf

Of selenahorner

Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 6:13 PM

To: PTManager

Subject: Re: A new medicare reg

Barrett,

Here's the Medicare Benefit Policy Manual...

https://www.cms.gov/manuals/Downloads/bp102c15.pdf To my knowledge, that

kind of thing hasn't changed in Medicare regulations.

>From a the perspective of a state practice act, I could see a license

needing to be posted for public to see. (Hair dresses have to and they are

" contract " professionals.) I would not see her request as being unusual from

a legal perspective. I would also think, in light of fraud and abuse, it

would be a necessity to actually know you were a physical therapist. She

could probably verify this online though - I know MI has a license

verification online and a way to easily know if the licensee is in good

standing.

Selena Horner, PT

ton, MI

>

> I'm being plagued by my current manager to bring in my original license to

> display. I'm just a contract guy and my pocket license has always been

> sufficient in the past. She says " this is a new Medicare regulation. "

>

>

>

> The manager likes to imagine I actually work for her and will say pretty

> much anything. I simply don't believe this latest.

>

>

>

> Anybody know anything about this?

>

>

>

> Barrett L. Dorko P.T.

>

> Cuyahoga Falls Ohio

>

> Barrettdorko.com

>

> Somasimple.com

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't know what the regulations in other states are but in Arkansas it is

stated in the practice act that you must display your current license in the

place you work. No one that I know of has ever objected to a copy as some

therapists work in more than one location. You are also required to display

the address for the licensing board should any patient wish to send in a

complaint to the Board. Displaying your license accomplishes both of these

requirements.

Becky A. Sewell, MRC, CRC

Rehab Net of AR/ArPTA

P.O. Box 202

Conway, AR 72033

ph/fax

_____

From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf

Of Ron Barbato

Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 8:47 AM

To: PTManager

Subject: RE: Re: A new medicare reg

Some surveyors still like to see them " hanging up " but there is no

regulation I am aware of. When I am faced with these issues, I simply

ask to see the regulation that backs up the request

Ron Barbato PT

Administrative Director, Rehabilitation Services

Program Director, Cancer Support Services

Ephraim McDowell Health

Voice:

rbarbato@... <mailto:rbarbato%40emrmc.org>

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Re: A new medicare reg

I'm being plagued by my current manager to bring in my original license

to

display. I'm just a contract guy and my pocket license has always been

sufficient in the past. She says " this is a new Medicare regulation. "

The manager likes to imagine I actually work for her and will say pretty

much anything. I simply don't believe this latest.

Anybody know anything about this?

Barrett L. Dorko P.T.

Cuyahoga Falls Ohio

Barrettdorko.com

Somasimple.com

[Guest guest]

I don't know what the regulations in other states are but in Arkansas it is

stated in the practice act that you must display your current license in the

place you work. No one that I know of has ever objected to a copy as some

therapists work in more than one location. You are also required to display

the address for the licensing board should any patient wish to send in a

complaint to the Board. Displaying your license accomplishes both of these

requirements.

Becky A. Sewell, MRC, CRC

Rehab Net of AR/ArPTA

P.O. Box 202

Conway, AR 72033

ph/fax

_____

From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf

Of Ron Barbato

Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 8:47 AM

To: PTManager

Subject: RE: Re: A new medicare reg

Some surveyors still like to see them " hanging up " but there is no

regulation I am aware of. When I am faced with these issues, I simply

ask to see the regulation that backs up the request

Ron Barbato PT

Administrative Director, Rehabilitation Services

Program Director, Cancer Support Services

Ephraim McDowell Health

Voice:

rbarbato@... <mailto:rbarbato%40emrmc.org>

PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL: This transmission may contain information

that is privileged subject to attorney-client privilege or attorney work

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STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please

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Re: A new medicare reg

I'm being plagued by my current manager to bring in my original license

to

display. I'm just a contract guy and my pocket license has always been

sufficient in the past. She says " this is a new Medicare regulation. "

The manager likes to imagine I actually work for her and will say pretty

much anything. I simply don't believe this latest.

Anybody know anything about this?

Barrett L. Dorko P.T.

Cuyahoga Falls Ohio

Barrettdorko.com

Somasimple.com

[Guest guest]

I don't know what the regulations in other states are but in Arkansas it is

stated in the practice act that you must display your current license in the

place you work. No one that I know of has ever objected to a copy as some

therapists work in more than one location. You are also required to display

the address for the licensing board should any patient wish to send in a

complaint to the Board. Displaying your license accomplishes both of these

requirements.

Becky A. Sewell, MRC, CRC

Rehab Net of AR/ArPTA

P.O. Box 202

Conway, AR 72033

ph/fax

_____

From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf

Of Ron Barbato

Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 8:47 AM

To: PTManager

Subject: RE: Re: A new medicare reg

Some surveyors still like to see them " hanging up " but there is no

regulation I am aware of. When I am faced with these issues, I simply

ask to see the regulation that backs up the request

Ron Barbato PT

Administrative Director, Rehabilitation Services

Program Director, Cancer Support Services

Ephraim McDowell Health

Voice:

rbarbato@... <mailto:rbarbato%40emrmc.org>

PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL: This transmission may contain information

that is privileged subject to attorney-client privilege or attorney work

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law. If you are not the intended recipient, then please do not read it

and be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the

information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is

STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please

immediately advise me, by reply e-mail, and delete this message and any

attachments without retaining a copy in any form. Thank you.

Re: A new medicare reg

I'm being plagued by my current manager to bring in my original license

to

display. I'm just a contract guy and my pocket license has always been

sufficient in the past. She says " this is a new Medicare regulation. "

The manager likes to imagine I actually work for her and will say pretty

much anything. I simply don't believe this latest.

Anybody know anything about this?

Barrett L. Dorko P.T.

Cuyahoga Falls Ohio

Barrettdorko.com

Somasimple.com

[Guest guest]

Barrett-

Greetings from a fellow Ohioan.

Here is the citation from the Ohio PT Practice Act Rules and Regs.

" ( Licensees shall display the original license certificate at their principal

place of business and shall have available at all locations of service delivery

a copy of their current license information from the Ohio e-license center

verification page. " (https://license.ohio.gov/lookup/).

As long as I have lived in Ohio (23 + years) this has been the case.

Ohio just recently eliminated the pocket license in 2010 so now if you want to

carry something in your wallet, you can print out a verification and fold it up.

Joint Commission does require that I check and verify the licenses of all my

staff ( PT, OT , ST etc) and have those verifications readily available at

their bequest.

PS- I miss the pocket license, too. Now it's just my APTA card.

Marcy Stalvey, PT, NCS

Kent OH

>

> I'm being plagued by my current manager to bring in my original license to

> display. I'm just a contract guy and my pocket license has always been

> sufficient in the past. She says " this is a new Medicare regulation. "

>

>

>

> The manager likes to imagine I actually work for her and will say pretty

> much anything. I simply don't believe this latest.

>

>

>

> Anybody know anything about this?

>

>

>

> Barrett L. Dorko P.T.

>

> Cuyahoga Falls Ohio

>

> Barrettdorko.com

>

> Somasimple.com

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Barrett-

Greetings from a fellow Ohioan.

Here is the citation from the Ohio PT Practice Act Rules and Regs.

" ( Licensees shall display the original license certificate at their principal

place of business and shall have available at all locations of service delivery

a copy of their current license information from the Ohio e-license center

verification page. " (https://license.ohio.gov/lookup/).

As long as I have lived in Ohio (23 + years) this has been the case.

Ohio just recently eliminated the pocket license in 2010 so now if you want to

carry something in your wallet, you can print out a verification and fold it up.

Joint Commission does require that I check and verify the licenses of all my

staff ( PT, OT , ST etc) and have those verifications readily available at

their bequest.

PS- I miss the pocket license, too. Now it's just my APTA card.

Marcy Stalvey, PT, NCS

Kent OH

>

> I'm being plagued by my current manager to bring in my original license to

> display. I'm just a contract guy and my pocket license has always been

> sufficient in the past. She says " this is a new Medicare regulation. "

>

>

>

> The manager likes to imagine I actually work for her and will say pretty

> much anything. I simply don't believe this latest.

>

>

>

> Anybody know anything about this?

>

>

>

> Barrett L. Dorko P.T.

>

> Cuyahoga Falls Ohio

>

> Barrettdorko.com

>

> Somasimple.com

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Barrett-

Greetings from a fellow Ohioan.

Here is the citation from the Ohio PT Practice Act Rules and Regs.

" ( Licensees shall display the original license certificate at their principal

place of business and shall have available at all locations of service delivery

a copy of their current license information from the Ohio e-license center

verification page. " (https://license.ohio.gov/lookup/).

As long as I have lived in Ohio (23 + years) this has been the case.

Ohio just recently eliminated the pocket license in 2010 so now if you want to

carry something in your wallet, you can print out a verification and fold it up.

Joint Commission does require that I check and verify the licenses of all my

staff ( PT, OT , ST etc) and have those verifications readily available at

their bequest.

PS- I miss the pocket license, too. Now it's just my APTA card.

Marcy Stalvey, PT, NCS

Kent OH

>

> I'm being plagued by my current manager to bring in my original license to

> display. I'm just a contract guy and my pocket license has always been

> sufficient in the past. She says " this is a new Medicare regulation. "

>

>

>

> The manager likes to imagine I actually work for her and will say pretty

> much anything. I simply don't believe this latest.

>

>

>

> Anybody know anything about this?

>

>

>

> Barrett L. Dorko P.T.

>

> Cuyahoga Falls Ohio

>

> Barrettdorko.com

>

> Somasimple.com

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In each of the states i've ever been licensed in, an initial certificate

suitable for framing is issued (the " original " license) and then, with every

renewal, a ~ 4 " x 6 " is issued, accompanied by one or two " pocket-sized "

licenses, the size of a credit card, so the therapist may always have it on

his or her person.

Most states require the display of a current (not the original certificate

from back when we had to be under the direction of an MD in Connecticut 8^))

so either the 4 " x6 " or the " pocket-sized " would be appropriate to meet the

state requirement.

I believe that the question at hand is the validity of the " pocket-sized "

license for the employer's purposes.

However, if the employer has a local policy mandating the presence of the

original license to hang on the wall for appearance purposes (in addition to

a legal current license), they may make any policy they wish. They can say

" My way or the highway! " and a therapist may choose, based upon whether

they believe that they can get a comparable job in 15 minutes like they

could in the old days...

Dick Hillyer, PT, DPT, MBA, MSM

_____

From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf

Of Becky Sewell

Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 2:22 PM

To: PTManager

Subject: RE: Re: A new medicare reg

I don't know what the regulations in other states are but in Arkansas it is

stated in the practice act that you must display your current license in the

place you work. No one that I know of has ever objected to a copy as some

therapists work in more than one location. You are also required to display

the address for the licensing board should any patient wish to send in a

complaint to the Board. Displaying your license accomplishes both of these

requirements.

Becky A. Sewell, MRC, CRC

Rehab Net of AR/ArPTA

P.O. Box 202

Conway, AR 72033

ph/fax

_____

From: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> ] On

Behalf

Of Ron Barbato

Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 8:47 AM

To: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com>

Subject: RE: Re: A new medicare reg

Some surveyors still like to see them " hanging up " but there is no

regulation I am aware of. When I am faced with these issues, I simply

ask to see the regulation that backs up the request

Ron Barbato PT

Administrative Director, Rehabilitation Services

Program Director, Cancer Support Services

Ephraim McDowell Health

Voice:

rbarbato@... <mailto:rbarbato%40emrmc.org>

<mailto:rbarbato%40emrmc.org>

PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL: This transmission may contain information

that is privileged subject to attorney-client privilege or attorney work

product, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable

law. If you are not the intended recipient, then please do not read it

and be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the

information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is

STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please

immediately advise me, by reply e-mail, and delete this message and any

attachments without retaining a copy in any form. Thank you.

Re: A new medicare reg

I'm being plagued by my current manager to bring in my original license

to

display. I'm just a contract guy and my pocket license has always been

sufficient in the past. She says " this is a new Medicare regulation. "

The manager likes to imagine I actually work for her and will say pretty

much anything. I simply don't believe this latest.

Anybody know anything about this?

Barrett L. Dorko P.T.

Cuyahoga Falls Ohio

Barrettdorko.com

Somasimple.com

[Guest guest]

In each of the states i've ever been licensed in, an initial certificate

suitable for framing is issued (the " original " license) and then, with every

renewal, a ~ 4 " x 6 " is issued, accompanied by one or two " pocket-sized "

licenses, the size of a credit card, so the therapist may always have it on

his or her person.

Most states require the display of a current (not the original certificate

from back when we had to be under the direction of an MD in Connecticut 8^))

so either the 4 " x6 " or the " pocket-sized " would be appropriate to meet the

state requirement.

I believe that the question at hand is the validity of the " pocket-sized "

license for the employer's purposes.

However, if the employer has a local policy mandating the presence of the

original license to hang on the wall for appearance purposes (in addition to

a legal current license), they may make any policy they wish. They can say

" My way or the highway! " and a therapist may choose, based upon whether

they believe that they can get a comparable job in 15 minutes like they

could in the old days...

Dick Hillyer, PT, DPT, MBA, MSM

_____

From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf

Of Becky Sewell

Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 2:22 PM

To: PTManager

Subject: RE: Re: A new medicare reg

I don't know what the regulations in other states are but in Arkansas it is

stated in the practice act that you must display your current license in the

place you work. No one that I know of has ever objected to a copy as some

therapists work in more than one location. You are also required to display

the address for the licensing board should any patient wish to send in a

complaint to the Board. Displaying your license accomplishes both of these

requirements.

Becky A. Sewell, MRC, CRC

Rehab Net of AR/ArPTA

P.O. Box 202

Conway, AR 72033

ph/fax

_____

From: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> ] On

Behalf

Of Ron Barbato

Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 8:47 AM

To: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com>

Subject: RE: Re: A new medicare reg

Some surveyors still like to see them " hanging up " but there is no

regulation I am aware of. When I am faced with these issues, I simply

ask to see the regulation that backs up the request

Ron Barbato PT

Administrative Director, Rehabilitation Services

Program Director, Cancer Support Services

Ephraim McDowell Health

Voice:

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Re: A new medicare reg

I'm being plagued by my current manager to bring in my original license

to

display. I'm just a contract guy and my pocket license has always been

sufficient in the past. She says " this is a new Medicare regulation. "

The manager likes to imagine I actually work for her and will say pretty

much anything. I simply don't believe this latest.

Anybody know anything about this?

Barrett L. Dorko P.T.

Cuyahoga Falls Ohio

Barrettdorko.com

Somasimple.com

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In each of the states i've ever been licensed in, an initial certificate

suitable for framing is issued (the " original " license) and then, with every

renewal, a ~ 4 " x 6 " is issued, accompanied by one or two " pocket-sized "

licenses, the size of a credit card, so the therapist may always have it on

his or her person.

Most states require the display of a current (not the original certificate

from back when we had to be under the direction of an MD in Connecticut 8^))

so either the 4 " x6 " or the " pocket-sized " would be appropriate to meet the

state requirement.

I believe that the question at hand is the validity of the " pocket-sized "

license for the employer's purposes.

However, if the employer has a local policy mandating the presence of the

original license to hang on the wall for appearance purposes (in addition to

a legal current license), they may make any policy they wish. They can say

" My way or the highway! " and a therapist may choose, based upon whether

they believe that they can get a comparable job in 15 minutes like they

could in the old days...

Dick Hillyer, PT, DPT, MBA, MSM

_____

From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf

Of Becky Sewell

Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 2:22 PM

To: PTManager

Subject: RE: Re: A new medicare reg

I don't know what the regulations in other states are but in Arkansas it is

stated in the practice act that you must display your current license in the

place you work. No one that I know of has ever objected to a copy as some

therapists work in more than one location. You are also required to display

the address for the licensing board should any patient wish to send in a

complaint to the Board. Displaying your license accomplishes both of these

requirements.

Becky A. Sewell, MRC, CRC

Rehab Net of AR/ArPTA

P.O. Box 202

Conway, AR 72033

ph/fax

_____

From: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> ] On

Behalf

Of Ron Barbato

Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 8:47 AM

To: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com>

Subject: RE: Re: A new medicare reg

Some surveyors still like to see them " hanging up " but there is no

regulation I am aware of. When I am faced with these issues, I simply

ask to see the regulation that backs up the request

Ron Barbato PT

Administrative Director, Rehabilitation Services

Program Director, Cancer Support Services

Ephraim McDowell Health

Voice:

rbarbato@... <mailto:rbarbato%40emrmc.org>

<mailto:rbarbato%40emrmc.org>

PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL: This transmission may contain information

that is privileged subject to attorney-client privilege or attorney work

product, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable

law. If you are not the intended recipient, then please do not read it

and be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the

information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is

STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please

immediately advise me, by reply e-mail, and delete this message and any

attachments without retaining a copy in any form. Thank you.

Re: A new medicare reg

I'm being plagued by my current manager to bring in my original license

to

display. I'm just a contract guy and my pocket license has always been

sufficient in the past. She says " this is a new Medicare regulation. "

The manager likes to imagine I actually work for her and will say pretty

much anything. I simply don't believe this latest.

Anybody know anything about this?

Barrett L. Dorko P.T.

Cuyahoga Falls Ohio

Barrettdorko.com

Somasimple.com