Re: IV DMPS & IV Glutathione - Andy

[Guest guest]

Andy - Thanks for your response. I went to the address you posted and it

sounded like she recommends mainly natural detox methods but she didn't

mention what those were. Are there any natural methods that you feel are

effective enough to chelate metals or do you feel that DMSA/ALA is the best

way to go? Also, you said both IV DMPS and IV Glutathione should never be

used, why not the IV Glutathione? Thanks so much for your help.

Tana

In a message dated 9/20/02 1:01:05 PM, writes:

<<Subject: Re: IV DMPS & IV Glutathione

> I have an appointment for my daughter with a DAN! doc soon and have

a few questions for those of you who are veterans at this. I talked

to some other people who see the same doctor and they are doing IV

DMPS and IV Glutathione.

Neither of these should ever be done.

>I don't know if the DMPS is necessarily his treatment of choice or

not,

It can be OK if used orally, but should never be used by injection.

See www.dmpsbackfire.com.

>I just know that these other people are using it and are pleased with

the results.

Many people take unnecessary risks, get lucky, and think that it is

somehow due to it having been a good idea to do it in the first place.

You can get a lot more benefit with much less risk using other

methods.

>So I'm just trying to gather as much information about different

treatments before I see the doctor. If anyone has any experience or

opinions about IV DMPS or IV Glutathione that they would like to share

I would really really really appreciate it. Thanks so muc>>

[Guest guest]

> Andy - Thanks for your response. I went to the address you posted

and it

> sounded like she recommends mainly natural detox methods but she

didn't

> mention what those were. Are there any natural methods that you

feel are

> effective enough to chelate metals

no.

> or do you feel that DMSA/ALA is the best

> way to go?

Yes, or ALA only, or DMPS/ALA. It depends a bit on which metal you

have.

>Also, you said both IV DMPS and IV Glutathione should never be

> used, why not the IV Glutathione?

It also has a high rate of causing serious problems and there are

other ways to provide the beneficial effects.

> Thanks so much for your help.

> Tana

> In a message dated 9/20/02 1:01:05 PM, @y... writes:

>

> <<Subject: Re: IV DMPS & IV Glutathione

>

> > I have an appointment for my daughter with a DAN! doc soon and

have

> a few questions for those of you who are veterans at this. I

talked

> to some other people who see the same doctor and they are doing IV

> DMPS and IV Glutathione.

>

> Neither of these should ever be done.

>

> >I don't know if the DMPS is necessarily his treatment of choice or

> not,

>

> It can be OK if used orally, but should never be used by injection.

> See www.dmpsbackfire.com.

>

> >I just know that these other people are using it and are pleased

with

> the results.

>

> Many people take unnecessary risks, get lucky, and think that it is

> somehow due to it having been a good idea to do it in the first

place.

> You can get a lot more benefit with much less risk using other

> methods.

>

> >So I'm just trying to gather as much information about different

> treatments before I see the doctor. If anyone has any experience or

> opinions about IV DMPS or IV Glutathione that they would like to

share

> I would really really really appreciate it. Thank

[Guest guest]

What are the serious problems you refer to in doing IV glutathione? My doctor,

(Dr. Berger, a DAN doctor in North Miami) really supports it and says he's

seen great results in hundreds of cases. We have had 2 infusions and my son has

shown significant improvement with no downside or bad side effects. I'm really

worried we might be doing something bad that we don't see yet.

I really appreciate your help. This list is a Godsend.

In @y..., tmevoy@a... wrote:

> Andy - Thanks for your response. I went to the address you posted

and it

> sounded like she recommends mainly natural detox methods but she

didn't

> mention what those were. Are there any natural methods that you

feel are

> effective enough to chelate metals

no.

> or do you feel that DMSA/ALA is the best

> way to go?

Yes, or ALA only, or DMPS/ALA. It depends a bit on which metal you

have.

>Also, you said both IV DMPS and IV Glutathione should never be

> used, why not the IV Glutathione?

It also has a high rate of causing serious problems and there are

other ways to provide the beneficial effects.

> Thanks so much for your help.

> Tana

> In a message dated 9/20/02 1:01:05 PM, @y... writes:

>

> <<Subject: Re: IV DMPS & IV Glutathione

>

> > I have an appointment for my daughter with a DAN! doc soon and

have

> a few questions for those of you who are veterans at this. I

talked

> to some other people who see the same doctor and they are doing IV

> DMPS and IV Glutathione.

>

> Neither of these should ever be done.

>

> >I don't know if the DMPS is necessarily his treatment of choice or

> not,

>

> It can be OK if used orally, but should never be used by injection.

> See www.dmpsbackfire.com.

>

> >I just know that these other people are using it and are pleased

with

> the results.

>

> Many people take unnecessary risks, get lucky, and think that it is

> somehow due to it having been a good idea to do it in the first

place.

> You can get a lot more benefit with much less risk using other

> methods.

>

> >So I'm just trying to gather as much information about different

> treatments before I see the doctor. If anyone has any experience or

> opinions about IV DMPS or IV Glutathione that they would like to

share

> I would really really really appreciate it. Thank

[Guest guest]

We also have seen good effects from our R-G infusions. I would also

like to know what the serious problems are. We were planning to do

another one but I am concerned with the risks you mention. COuld you

please elaborate. Thanks

> > Andy - Thanks for your response. I went to the address you

posted

> and it

> > sounded like she recommends mainly natural detox methods but she

> didn't

> > mention what those were. Are there any natural methods that you

> feel are

> > effective enough to chelate metals

>

> no.

>

> > or do you feel that DMSA/ALA is the best

> > way to go?

>

> Yes, or ALA only, or DMPS/ALA. It depends a bit on which metal you

> have.

>

> >Also, you said both IV DMPS and IV Glutathione should never be

> > used, why not the IV Glutathione?

>

> It also has a high rate of causing serious problems and there are

> other ways to provide the beneficial effects.

>

> > Thanks so much for your help.

> > Tana

> > In a message dated 9/20/02 1:01:05 PM, @y... writes:

> >

> > <<Subject: Re: IV DMPS & IV Glutathione

> >

> > > I have an appointment for my daughter with a DAN! doc soon and

> have

> > a few questions for those of you who are veterans at this. I

> talked

> > to some other people who see the same doctor and they are doing

IV

> > DMPS and IV Glutathione.

> >

> > Neither of these should ever be done.

> >

> > >I don't know if the DMPS is necessarily his treatment of choice

or

> > not,

> >

> > It can be OK if used orally, but should never be used by

injection.

> > See www.dmpsbackfire.com.

> >

> > >I just know that these other people are using it and are pleased

> with

> > the results.

> >

> > Many people take unnecessary risks, get lucky, and think that it

is

> > somehow due to it having been a good idea to do it in the first

> place.

> > You can get a lot more benefit with much less risk using other

> > methods.

> >

> > >So I'm just trying to gather as much information about different

> > treatments before I see the doctor. If anyone has any experience

or

> > opinions about IV DMPS or IV Glutathione that they would like to

> share

> > I would really really really appreciate it. Thank

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> > What are the serious problems you refer to in doing IV

> glutathione? My doctor, (Dr. Berger, a DAN doctor in North

> Miami) really supports it and says he's seen great results in

> hundreds of cases.

And overlooked the problems in hundreds more.

Basically it is a 50-50 thing. It helps about half, is bad for the

other half.

Not everyone has problems immediately. For example, you might have a

few iv's followed by improvement and then suddenly have OCD behavior

appear, or severe anxiety, or a worsening of coordination. In these

kinds of cases the problem that suddenly appears is usually permanent.

Also the first thing that happens in most of the people who are going

to have problems with it is they feel better, euphoric, energized, for

a couple of hours. Then the problems set in. All the doc sees in his

office is everyone getting better. If the doc isn't asking about what

happened later in enough detail he can be pretty confused about what

the stuff does.

> We have had 2 infusions and my son has shown

> significant improvement with no downside or bad side effects. I'm

> really worried we might be doing something bad that we don't see

yet.

> >

> > I really appreciate your help. This list is

[Guest guest]

Andy, Why does IV Glutathione effect about 50% of the people like this? Why do

they get better initially and then get worse? Why does the other 50% get

better? Do we know these answers yet or is this just a big mystery? Thanks,

Tana

> > > What are the serious problems you refer to in doing IV

> > glutathione? My doctor, (Dr. Berger, a DAN doctor in North

> > Miami) really supports it and says he's seen great results in

> > hundreds of cases.

>

> And overlooked the problems in hundreds more.

>

> Basically it is a 50-50 thing. It helps about half, is bad for the

> other half.

>

> Not everyone has problems immediately. For example, you might have a

> few iv's followed by improvement and then suddenly have OCD behavior

> appear, or severe anxiety, or a worsening of coordination. In these

> kinds of cases the problem that suddenly appears is usually permanent.

>

> Also the first thing that happens in most of the people who are going

> to have problems with it is they feel better, euphoric, energized, for

> a couple of hours. Then the problems set in. All the doc sees in his

> office is everyone getting better. If the doc isn't asking about what

> happened later in enough detail he can be pretty confused about what

> the stuff does.

>

> > We have had 2 infusions and my son has shown

> > significant improvement with no downside or bad side effects. I'm

> > really worried we might be doing something bad that we don't see

> yet.

> > >

> > > I really appreciate your help. This list is

[Guest guest]

>

> " Not everyone has problems immediately. For example, you might have

a

> few iv's followed by improvement and then suddenly have OCD behavior

> appear, or severe anxiety, or a worsening of coordination. In these

> kinds of cases the problem that suddenly appears is usually

permanent. "

>

> Andy,

>

> Does the potential for these problems also exist with the use of

oral glutathione and glutathione suppositories?

Much less so. Generally it will be clear if someone is not tolerating

these without a long lasting problem, but if they are very, very

sensitive it might happen. It is far less risky than intravenous

administration. I think it is OK to try these if you want to.. . . . .

.. . .

>

> Sheryl

>

>

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