Guest guest Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 Our PT staff are hourly employees and they receive a 30 minute unpaid lunch break. Therefore, their 8-hour work day is 8 1/2 hours long, and not 8 hours. (i.e. someone who works from 8:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. is paid for 8 hours, with a 30 minute unpaid lunch break Effie Effie Elliott, PT Manager PT/OT KGH Bayhealth Medical Center /6820 Office Number Pager Number Fax Number effie_elliott@... " Next to doing a good job yourself, the greatest joy is in having someone else do a first-class job under your direction. " Feather, American author & publisher From: To: PTManager Date: 05/05/2011 12:32 PM Subject: Re: LUNCH Sent by: PTManager ________________________________ To: diana Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 10:55:07 AM Subject: LUNCH Hi everyone, I have several questions: As a full time therapist do you work 40 hrs a week? and if so is your lunch included in the 40 hrs. Different options I have come across are: 1)The therapist works 37.5 hours and pay them for 30 min lunch break that will equal to 40 hrs. This way really does not allow the therapist to have a real break to eat lunch. 2)The therapist works 40 hours a week and give them 1 hour slot for lunch which will equal to 42.5 hrs a week. This way lit will allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a 30 minute lunch. 3)The therapist will work 40 hrs a week with a full 1 hour lunch break which will equal to a 45 hr work week. We will need to block a hour and a half time slot to allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a full hour lunch. Thanks, Lesniak Office manager JCPT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 Our PT staff are hourly employees and they receive a 30 minute unpaid lunch break. Therefore, their 8-hour work day is 8 1/2 hours long, and not 8 hours. (i.e. someone who works from 8:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. is paid for 8 hours, with a 30 minute unpaid lunch break Effie Effie Elliott, PT Manager PT/OT KGH Bayhealth Medical Center /6820 Office Number Pager Number Fax Number effie_elliott@... " Next to doing a good job yourself, the greatest joy is in having someone else do a first-class job under your direction. " Feather, American author & publisher From: To: PTManager Date: 05/05/2011 12:32 PM Subject: Re: LUNCH Sent by: PTManager ________________________________ To: diana Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 10:55:07 AM Subject: LUNCH Hi everyone, I have several questions: As a full time therapist do you work 40 hrs a week? and if so is your lunch included in the 40 hrs. Different options I have come across are: 1)The therapist works 37.5 hours and pay them for 30 min lunch break that will equal to 40 hrs. This way really does not allow the therapist to have a real break to eat lunch. 2)The therapist works 40 hours a week and give them 1 hour slot for lunch which will equal to 42.5 hrs a week. This way lit will allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a 30 minute lunch. 3)The therapist will work 40 hrs a week with a full 1 hour lunch break which will equal to a 45 hr work week. We will need to block a hour and a half time slot to allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a full hour lunch. Thanks, Lesniak Office manager JCPT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 Our PT staff are hourly employees and they receive a 30 minute unpaid lunch break. Therefore, their 8-hour work day is 8 1/2 hours long, and not 8 hours. (i.e. someone who works from 8:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. is paid for 8 hours, with a 30 minute unpaid lunch break Effie Effie Elliott, PT Manager PT/OT KGH Bayhealth Medical Center /6820 Office Number Pager Number Fax Number effie_elliott@... " Next to doing a good job yourself, the greatest joy is in having someone else do a first-class job under your direction. " Feather, American author & publisher From: To: PTManager Date: 05/05/2011 12:32 PM Subject: Re: LUNCH Sent by: PTManager ________________________________ To: diana Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 10:55:07 AM Subject: LUNCH Hi everyone, I have several questions: As a full time therapist do you work 40 hrs a week? and if so is your lunch included in the 40 hrs. Different options I have come across are: 1)The therapist works 37.5 hours and pay them for 30 min lunch break that will equal to 40 hrs. This way really does not allow the therapist to have a real break to eat lunch. 2)The therapist works 40 hours a week and give them 1 hour slot for lunch which will equal to 42.5 hrs a week. This way lit will allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a 30 minute lunch. 3)The therapist will work 40 hrs a week with a full 1 hour lunch break which will equal to a 45 hr work week. We will need to block a hour and a half time slot to allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a full hour lunch. Thanks, Lesniak Office manager JCPT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 In many situations the lunch hour is unpaid time. The employee may work 8 hours (8 to 4:30 e.g.) per work day and 1/2 hour is unpaid for lunch and 8 hours of work time. In many instances an employee has a paid 10 or 15 minute break time for each 4 hours worked. An employee may incorporate that time into the lunch break giving the employee a 50 or 60 minute break for lunch. The reason being, is that an employee in health care cannot take a designated break mid-way in the morning or afternoon due to patient care responsibilities. This scenario can vary depending on type of patient and facility. Slocum PT, MSHA LUNCH Hi everyone, I have several questions: As a full time therapist do you work 40 hrs a week? and if so is your lunch included in the 40 hrs. Different options I have come across are: 1)The therapist works 37.5 hours and pay them for 30 min lunch break that will equal to 40 hrs. This way really does not allow the therapist to have a real break to eat lunch. 2)The therapist works 40 hours a week and give them 1 hour slot for lunch which will equal to 42.5 hrs a week. This way lit will allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a 30 minute lunch. 3)The therapist will work 40 hrs a week with a full 1 hour lunch break which will equal to a 45 hr work week. We will need to block a hour and a half time slot to allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a full hour lunch. Thanks, Lesniak Office manager JCPT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 Plus, you also need to follow state laws (hence, checking with your HR dept is a great idea). The scenario stated by below about incorporating break times into a 50-60 minute break for lunch...while it makes perfect sense....is technically illegal according to the state of California labor law for hourly employees. Cederlind Director of Rehab Services Emanuel Medical Center Turlock, CA ________________________________ From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of paulslocumPT@... Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 2:27 PM To: PTManager Subject: Re: Re: LUNCH In many situations the lunch hour is unpaid time. The employee may work 8 hours (8 to 4:30 e.g.) per work day and 1/2 hour is unpaid for lunch and 8 hours of work time. In many instances an employee has a paid 10 or 15 minute break time for each 4 hours worked. An employee may incorporate that time into the lunch break giving the employee a 50 or 60 minute break for lunch. The reason being, is that an employee in health care cannot take a designated break mid-way in the morning or afternoon due to patient care responsibilities. This scenario can vary depending on type of patient and facility. Slocum PT, MSHA LUNCH Hi everyone, I have several questions: As a full time therapist do you work 40 hrs a week? and if so is your lunch included in the 40 hrs. Different options I have come across are: 1)The therapist works 37.5 hours and pay them for 30 min lunch break that will equal to 40 hrs. This way really does not allow the therapist to have a real break to eat lunch. 2)The therapist works 40 hours a week and give them 1 hour slot for lunch which will equal to 42.5 hrs a week. This way lit will allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a 30 minute lunch. 3)The therapist will work 40 hrs a week with a full 1 hour lunch break which will equal to a 45 hr work week. We will need to block a hour and a half time slot to allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a full hour lunch. Thanks, Lesniak Office manager JCPT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 Plus, you also need to follow state laws (hence, checking with your HR dept is a great idea). The scenario stated by below about incorporating break times into a 50-60 minute break for lunch...while it makes perfect sense....is technically illegal according to the state of California labor law for hourly employees. Cederlind Director of Rehab Services Emanuel Medical Center Turlock, CA ________________________________ From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of paulslocumPT@... Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 2:27 PM To: PTManager Subject: Re: Re: LUNCH In many situations the lunch hour is unpaid time. The employee may work 8 hours (8 to 4:30 e.g.) per work day and 1/2 hour is unpaid for lunch and 8 hours of work time. In many instances an employee has a paid 10 or 15 minute break time for each 4 hours worked. An employee may incorporate that time into the lunch break giving the employee a 50 or 60 minute break for lunch. The reason being, is that an employee in health care cannot take a designated break mid-way in the morning or afternoon due to patient care responsibilities. This scenario can vary depending on type of patient and facility. Slocum PT, MSHA LUNCH Hi everyone, I have several questions: As a full time therapist do you work 40 hrs a week? and if so is your lunch included in the 40 hrs. Different options I have come across are: 1)The therapist works 37.5 hours and pay them for 30 min lunch break that will equal to 40 hrs. This way really does not allow the therapist to have a real break to eat lunch. 2)The therapist works 40 hours a week and give them 1 hour slot for lunch which will equal to 42.5 hrs a week. This way lit will allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a 30 minute lunch. 3)The therapist will work 40 hrs a week with a full 1 hour lunch break which will equal to a 45 hr work week. We will need to block a hour and a half time slot to allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a full hour lunch. Thanks, Lesniak Office manager JCPT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 Check Fair Labor Standards Act for guidance on what options are available. The law is pretty clear on requirements depending on whether staff are " profession " as exempt or " non-professional " as non exempt. With non-exempt there are varying options with hours allowed per day and per 7 day week. Personally, I feel PTs meet the federal FLSA requirements for the professional/exempt category. I recognize the potential financial benefit of hourly staff, but do we really want our colleagues to perceive it is " just a job where they clock in and out " or do we want to facilitate a doctoring profession and expect we will do what needs to be done and not worry about overtime pay or having to clock out. (And yes, I know it is all about balance!) Kerry Therapy Manager FAHC Ip Rehab Colchester, VT Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T LUNCH Hi everyone, I have several questions: As a full time therapist do you work 40 hrs a week? and if so is your lunch included in the 40 hrs. Different options I have come across are: 1)The therapist works 37.5 hours and pay them for 30 min lunch break that will equal to 40 hrs. This way really does not allow the therapist to have a real break to eat lunch. 2)The therapist works 40 hours a week and give them 1 hour slot for lunch which will equal to 42.5 hrs a week. This way lit will allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a 30 minute lunch. 3)The therapist will work 40 hrs a week with a full 1 hour lunch break which will equal to a 45 hr work week. We will need to block a hour and a half time slot to allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a full hour lunch. Thanks, Lesniak Office manager JCPT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 Check Fair Labor Standards Act for guidance on what options are available. The law is pretty clear on requirements depending on whether staff are " profession " as exempt or " non-professional " as non exempt. With non-exempt there are varying options with hours allowed per day and per 7 day week. Personally, I feel PTs meet the federal FLSA requirements for the professional/exempt category. I recognize the potential financial benefit of hourly staff, but do we really want our colleagues to perceive it is " just a job where they clock in and out " or do we want to facilitate a doctoring profession and expect we will do what needs to be done and not worry about overtime pay or having to clock out. (And yes, I know it is all about balance!) Kerry Therapy Manager FAHC Ip Rehab Colchester, VT Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T LUNCH Hi everyone, I have several questions: As a full time therapist do you work 40 hrs a week? and if so is your lunch included in the 40 hrs. Different options I have come across are: 1)The therapist works 37.5 hours and pay them for 30 min lunch break that will equal to 40 hrs. This way really does not allow the therapist to have a real break to eat lunch. 2)The therapist works 40 hours a week and give them 1 hour slot for lunch which will equal to 42.5 hrs a week. This way lit will allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a 30 minute lunch. 3)The therapist will work 40 hrs a week with a full 1 hour lunch break which will equal to a 45 hr work week. We will need to block a hour and a half time slot to allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a full hour lunch. Thanks, Lesniak Office manager JCPT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 Our people come in at 7 or 8--depending on their schedule-- see clients through the morning. If they have a noon lunch, the last client is at 11am. Then they start back at 1pm. Lunch isn't paid. Adam P. Carson, DPT,OCS 3231Main, suite 3 ,AR 72022 (501)847-0500 Carsonphysicaltherapy.com > > In many situations the lunch hour is unpaid time. The employee may work 8 hours (8 to 4:30 e.g.) per work day and 1/2 hour is unpaid for lunch and 8 hours of work time. In many instances an employee has a paid 10 or 15 minute break time for each 4 hours worked. An employee may incorporate that time into the lunch break giving the employee a 50 or 60 minute break for lunch. The reason being, is that an employee in health care cannot take a designated break mid-way in the morning or afternoon due to patient care responsibilities. This scenario can vary depending on type of patient and facility. > Slocum PT, MSHA > > LUNCH > > Hi everyone, > > I have several questions: > > As a full time therapist do you work 40 hrs a week? and if so is your lunch > included in the 40 hrs. > > Different options I have come across are: > > 1)The therapist works 37.5 hours and pay them for 30 min lunch break that will > equal to 40 hrs. This way really does not allow the therapist to have a real > break to eat lunch. > > 2)The therapist works 40 hours a week and give them 1 hour slot for lunch which > will equal to 42.5 hrs a week. This way lit will allow the therapist to finish > with the last patient and have a 30 minute lunch. > > 3)The therapist will work 40 hrs a week with a full 1 hour lunch break which > will equal to a 45 hr work week. We will need to block a hour and a half time > slot to allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a full > hour lunch. > > Thanks, > > Lesniak > Office manager > JCPT > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 Our people come in at 7 or 8--depending on their schedule-- see clients through the morning. If they have a noon lunch, the last client is at 11am. Then they start back at 1pm. Lunch isn't paid. Adam P. Carson, DPT,OCS 3231Main, suite 3 ,AR 72022 (501)847-0500 Carsonphysicaltherapy.com > > In many situations the lunch hour is unpaid time. The employee may work 8 hours (8 to 4:30 e.g.) per work day and 1/2 hour is unpaid for lunch and 8 hours of work time. In many instances an employee has a paid 10 or 15 minute break time for each 4 hours worked. An employee may incorporate that time into the lunch break giving the employee a 50 or 60 minute break for lunch. The reason being, is that an employee in health care cannot take a designated break mid-way in the morning or afternoon due to patient care responsibilities. This scenario can vary depending on type of patient and facility. > Slocum PT, MSHA > > LUNCH > > Hi everyone, > > I have several questions: > > As a full time therapist do you work 40 hrs a week? and if so is your lunch > included in the 40 hrs. > > Different options I have come across are: > > 1)The therapist works 37.5 hours and pay them for 30 min lunch break that will > equal to 40 hrs. This way really does not allow the therapist to have a real > break to eat lunch. > > 2)The therapist works 40 hours a week and give them 1 hour slot for lunch which > will equal to 42.5 hrs a week. This way lit will allow the therapist to finish > with the last patient and have a 30 minute lunch. > > 3)The therapist will work 40 hrs a week with a full 1 hour lunch break which > will equal to a 45 hr work week. We will need to block a hour and a half time > slot to allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a full > hour lunch. > > Thanks, > > Lesniak > Office manager > JCPT > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 We were told that if the 15 minute break is not taken during the am or pm, it is lost and therefore cannot be incorporated into the 1/2 hr lunch period. (or at least that we are not legally bound or obligated to provide that option.) From payroll perspective, only 1/2 hr is deducted for lunch regardless. Carol Rehder, PT Manager, Physical Therapy Genesis Medical Center rehder@... A J.D. Power and Associates Distinguished Hospital for providing " An Outstanding Patient Experience " >>> 5/5/2011 4:26 PM >>> In many situations the lunch hour is unpaid time. The employee may work 8 hours (8 to 4:30 e.g.) per work day and 1/2 hour is unpaid for lunch and 8 hours of work time. In many instances an employee has a paid 10 or 15 minute break time for each 4 hours worked. An employee may incorporate that time into the lunch break giving the employee a 50 or 60 minute break for lunch. The reason being, is that an employee in health care cannot take a designated break mid-way in the morning or afternoon due to patient care responsibilities. This scenario can vary depending on type of patient and facility. Slocum PT, MSHA LUNCH Hi everyone, I have several questions: As a full time therapist do you work 40 hrs a week? and if so is your lunch included in the 40 hrs. Different options I have come across are: 1)The therapist works 37.5 hours and pay them for 30 min lunch break that will equal to 40 hrs. This way really does not allow the therapist to have a real break to eat lunch. 2)The therapist works 40 hours a week and give them 1 hour slot for lunch which will equal to 42.5 hrs a week. This way lit will allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a 30 minute lunch. 3)The therapist will work 40 hrs a week with a full 1 hour lunch break which will equal to a 45 hr work week. We will need to block a hour and a half time slot to allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a full hour lunch. Thanks, Lesniak Office manager JCPT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 We were told that if the 15 minute break is not taken during the am or pm, it is lost and therefore cannot be incorporated into the 1/2 hr lunch period. (or at least that we are not legally bound or obligated to provide that option.) From payroll perspective, only 1/2 hr is deducted for lunch regardless. Carol Rehder, PT Manager, Physical Therapy Genesis Medical Center rehder@... A J.D. Power and Associates Distinguished Hospital for providing " An Outstanding Patient Experience " >>> 5/5/2011 4:26 PM >>> In many situations the lunch hour is unpaid time. The employee may work 8 hours (8 to 4:30 e.g.) per work day and 1/2 hour is unpaid for lunch and 8 hours of work time. In many instances an employee has a paid 10 or 15 minute break time for each 4 hours worked. An employee may incorporate that time into the lunch break giving the employee a 50 or 60 minute break for lunch. The reason being, is that an employee in health care cannot take a designated break mid-way in the morning or afternoon due to patient care responsibilities. This scenario can vary depending on type of patient and facility. Slocum PT, MSHA LUNCH Hi everyone, I have several questions: As a full time therapist do you work 40 hrs a week? and if so is your lunch included in the 40 hrs. Different options I have come across are: 1)The therapist works 37.5 hours and pay them for 30 min lunch break that will equal to 40 hrs. This way really does not allow the therapist to have a real break to eat lunch. 2)The therapist works 40 hours a week and give them 1 hour slot for lunch which will equal to 42.5 hrs a week. This way lit will allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a 30 minute lunch. 3)The therapist will work 40 hrs a week with a full 1 hour lunch break which will equal to a 45 hr work week. We will need to block a hour and a half time slot to allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a full hour lunch. Thanks, Lesniak Office manager JCPT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 Check also with State standards, which your HR Dept, should reference , as there are State Wage and Labor laws as well. E. Lynn MS PT Director of Rehabilitation Marlton Rehabilitation Hospital 92 Brick Rd. Marlton, NJ 08055 ext 4204 From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of Leonor Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:06 PM To: PTManager Subject: Re: LUNCH Check with your HR dept, there are several issues implied on required rest breaks as well as meal breaks. L. >>> <driveramedical@...<mailto:driveramedical%40yahoo.com>> 5/5/2011 8:56 AM >>> ________________________________ From: <driveramedical@...<mailto:driveramedical%40yahoo.com>> To: diana <driveramedical@...<mailto:driveramedical%40yahoo.com>> Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 10:55:07 AM Subject: LUNCH Hi everyone, I have several questions: As a full time therapist do you work 40 hrs a week? and if so is your lunch included in the 40 hrs. Different options I have come across are: 1)The therapist works 37.5 hours and pay them for 30 min lunch break that will equal to 40 hrs. This way really does not allow the therapist to have a real break to eat lunch. 2)The therapist works 40 hours a week and give them 1 hour slot for lunch which will equal to 42.5 hrs a week. This way lit will allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a 30 minute lunch. 3)The therapist will work 40 hrs a week with a full 1 hour lunch break which will equal to a 45 hr work week. We will need to block a hour and a half time slot to allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a full hour lunch. Thanks, Lesniak Office manager JCPT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Keeping in mind that these wage and hour requirements only apply to non-exempt employees... I manage a rehab department where the therapists are non-exempt, and frankly, I wish that therapists were salaried, again. As a doctoring profession, I find it curious that we do not have a movement afoot to return to salaried positions. Most therapists I know, regardless of the time that is scheduled or allotted for lunch, do whatever it takes to treat the patient before lunch, see the first patient after lunch on time, then they are usually catching up on documentation during lunch (despite my efforts to not have them do that). The problem with hourly therapists that I see, is they don't take (or have) time for program development, researching evidence based treatments, and other essential professional activities, because they, and their manager, are being held to a productivity expectation that is difficult to meet. With all the documentation requirements that are needed, therapists are tending to burn the candle at both ends. So the question about lunch (and it only applies to the non-exempt)...not sure if the real question is " how " we pay for lunch, but how do we give the therapists their much needed lunch break, and pay them fairly for the time they have worked. My recommendation is to treat therapists as professionals. Pay them a salary, set their productivity target based on a forty hour week, and let them work out the whole lunch schedule thing based on what the patients/ facility/ team needs. Gail Altekruse, PT, MSBA Fort Wayne, IN LUNCH Hi everyone, I have several questions: As a full time therapist do you work 40 hrs a week? and if so is your lunch included in the 40 hrs. Different options I have come across are: 1)The therapist works 37.5 hours and pay them for 30 min lunch break that will equal to 40 hrs. This way really does not allow the therapist to have a real break to eat lunch. 2)The therapist works 40 hours a week and give them 1 hour slot for lunch which will equal to 42.5 hrs a week. This way lit will allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a 30 minute lunch. 3)The therapist will work 40 hrs a week with a full 1 hour lunch break which will equal to a 45 hr work week. We will need to block a hour and a half time slot to allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a full hour lunch. Thanks, Lesniak Office manager JCPT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Keeping in mind that these wage and hour requirements only apply to non-exempt employees... I manage a rehab department where the therapists are non-exempt, and frankly, I wish that therapists were salaried, again. As a doctoring profession, I find it curious that we do not have a movement afoot to return to salaried positions. Most therapists I know, regardless of the time that is scheduled or allotted for lunch, do whatever it takes to treat the patient before lunch, see the first patient after lunch on time, then they are usually catching up on documentation during lunch (despite my efforts to not have them do that). The problem with hourly therapists that I see, is they don't take (or have) time for program development, researching evidence based treatments, and other essential professional activities, because they, and their manager, are being held to a productivity expectation that is difficult to meet. With all the documentation requirements that are needed, therapists are tending to burn the candle at both ends. So the question about lunch (and it only applies to the non-exempt)...not sure if the real question is " how " we pay for lunch, but how do we give the therapists their much needed lunch break, and pay them fairly for the time they have worked. My recommendation is to treat therapists as professionals. Pay them a salary, set their productivity target based on a forty hour week, and let them work out the whole lunch schedule thing based on what the patients/ facility/ team needs. Gail Altekruse, PT, MSBA Fort Wayne, IN LUNCH Hi everyone, I have several questions: As a full time therapist do you work 40 hrs a week? and if so is your lunch included in the 40 hrs. Different options I have come across are: 1)The therapist works 37.5 hours and pay them for 30 min lunch break that will equal to 40 hrs. This way really does not allow the therapist to have a real break to eat lunch. 2)The therapist works 40 hours a week and give them 1 hour slot for lunch which will equal to 42.5 hrs a week. This way lit will allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a 30 minute lunch. 3)The therapist will work 40 hrs a week with a full 1 hour lunch break which will equal to a 45 hr work week. We will need to block a hour and a half time slot to allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a full hour lunch. Thanks, Lesniak Office manager JCPT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 I agree keep the therapist salaried. Every year, I have this fight with our HR department and so far have won every year to keep them salaried. It solves a lot of your issues by not being hourly. Our PTA and COTA are hourly. Morrow, MS, ATC, LAT Director of Consulting and Outpatient Services Monroe Clinic 515 22nd Avenue Monroe, WI 53566 (O) (F) (P) © LUNCH Hi everyone, I have several questions: As a full time therapist do you work 40 hrs a week? and if so is your lunch included in the 40 hrs. Different options I have come across are: 1)The therapist works 37.5 hours and pay them for 30 min lunch break that will equal to 40 hrs. This way really does not allow the therapist to have a real break to eat lunch. 2)The therapist works 40 hours a week and give them 1 hour slot for lunch which will equal to 42.5 hrs a week. This way lit will allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a 30 minute lunch. 3)The therapist will work 40 hrs a week with a full 1 hour lunch break which will equal to a 45 hr work week. We will need to block a hour and a half time slot to allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a full hour lunch. Thanks, Lesniak Office manager JCPT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 I agree keep the therapist salaried. Every year, I have this fight with our HR department and so far have won every year to keep them salaried. It solves a lot of your issues by not being hourly. Our PTA and COTA are hourly. Morrow, MS, ATC, LAT Director of Consulting and Outpatient Services Monroe Clinic 515 22nd Avenue Monroe, WI 53566 (O) (F) (P) © LUNCH Hi everyone, I have several questions: As a full time therapist do you work 40 hrs a week? and if so is your lunch included in the 40 hrs. Different options I have come across are: 1)The therapist works 37.5 hours and pay them for 30 min lunch break that will equal to 40 hrs. This way really does not allow the therapist to have a real break to eat lunch. 2)The therapist works 40 hours a week and give them 1 hour slot for lunch which will equal to 42.5 hrs a week. This way lit will allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a 30 minute lunch. 3)The therapist will work 40 hrs a week with a full 1 hour lunch break which will equal to a 45 hr work week. We will need to block a hour and a half time slot to allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a full hour lunch. Thanks, Lesniak Office manager JCPT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 I too, agree that salaried would be less stressful for our staff. But I aslo find that from a productivity standpoint, we are again comparing apples and oranges, when having hourly staff and being compared to a department with a higher percentage of salaried staff, who's submitted data is based on the assumption of an 8 hr day, when in fact they may be more routinely working in excess of that, making their productivity look much better than those departments who's hours are based on what was actually worked. Carol Rehder, PT Manager, Physical Therapy Genesis Medical Center rehder@... A J.D. Power and Associates Distinguished Hospital for providing " An Outstanding Patient Experience " >>> Morrow 5/9/2011 8:55 AM >>> I agree keep the therapist salaried. Every year, I have this fight with our HR department and so far have won every year to keep them salaried. It solves a lot of your issues by not being hourly. Our PTA and COTA are hourly. Morrow, MS, ATC, LAT Director of Consulting and Outpatient Services Monroe Clinic 515 22nd Avenue Monroe, WI 53566 (O) (F) (P) © LUNCH Hi everyone, I have several questions: As a full time therapist do you work 40 hrs a week? and if so is your lunch included in the 40 hrs. Different options I have come across are: 1)The therapist works 37.5 hours and pay them for 30 min lunch break that will equal to 40 hrs. This way really does not allow the therapist to have a real break to eat lunch. 2)The therapist works 40 hours a week and give them 1 hour slot for lunch which will equal to 42.5 hrs a week. This way lit will allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a 30 minute lunch. 3)The therapist will work 40 hrs a week with a full 1 hour lunch break which will equal to a 45 hr work week. We will need to block a hour and a half time slot to allow the therapist to finish with the last patient and have a full hour lunch. Thanks, Lesniak Office manager JCPT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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