Re: Re: California IRF criteria

[Guest guest]

The IRF criteria are NOT based on level of assist needed-I wonder if this is

specific to the particular facility? CMS criteria is that People need to be

able to actively participate in and tolerate 3 hours of skilled OT/PT (and SLP

if indicated) 5 out of 7 days a week and make measurable gains of practical

value. We accept patients who require max assist for mobility on a regular

basis-they often are the ones who need our services the most!

Kerry

Kerry Wood PT, DPT

Therapy Manager

IP Rehab

Fletcher Health Care

Colchester, VT

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Re: California IRF criteria

Hi All

This is a question, generated by a friend of mine. We live in MA, her father

was visiting a daughter in CA when he had a massive stroke. By my neighbor's

understanding, her dad will not be eligible for IRF until he can transfer with

moderate assist x 1. So, because he is max assist (R HP, recently had pacemaker

placed so has restrictions using L arm) he is to transfer from LTAC to SNF level

of care. Once he is better at transfers, he will be able to go to the IRF.

Is this a common scenario across the USA? I am familiar with transfers from IRF

going to SNF but not vice a versa. Could my neighbor have the information wrong?

Or am I out of touch with recent changes.

Aileen Ledingham PT MS

Waltham, MA

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The IRF criteria are NOT based on level of assist needed-I wonder if this is

specific to the particular facility? CMS criteria is that People need to be

able to actively participate in and tolerate 3 hours of skilled OT/PT (and SLP

if indicated) 5 out of 7 days a week and make measurable gains of practical

value. We accept patients who require max assist for mobility on a regular

basis-they often are the ones who need our services the most!

Kerry

Kerry Wood PT, DPT

Therapy Manager

IP Rehab

Fletcher Health Care

Colchester, VT

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Re: California IRF criteria

Hi All

This is a question, generated by a friend of mine. We live in MA, her father

was visiting a daughter in CA when he had a massive stroke. By my neighbor's

understanding, her dad will not be eligible for IRF until he can transfer with

moderate assist x 1. So, because he is max assist (R HP, recently had pacemaker

placed so has restrictions using L arm) he is to transfer from LTAC to SNF level

of care. Once he is better at transfers, he will be able to go to the IRF.

Is this a common scenario across the USA? I am familiar with transfers from IRF

going to SNF but not vice a versa. Could my neighbor have the information wrong?

Or am I out of touch with recent changes.

Aileen Ledingham PT MS

Waltham, MA

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your location or else your message will not be approved to send to the full

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description of PTManager group includes the following:

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[Guest guest]

The IRF criteria are NOT based on level of assist needed-I wonder if this is

specific to the particular facility? CMS criteria is that People need to be

able to actively participate in and tolerate 3 hours of skilled OT/PT (and SLP

if indicated) 5 out of 7 days a week and make measurable gains of practical

value. We accept patients who require max assist for mobility on a regular

basis-they often are the ones who need our services the most!

Kerry

Kerry Wood PT, DPT

Therapy Manager

IP Rehab

Fletcher Health Care

Colchester, VT

Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

Re: California IRF criteria

Hi All

This is a question, generated by a friend of mine. We live in MA, her father

was visiting a daughter in CA when he had a massive stroke. By my neighbor's

understanding, her dad will not be eligible for IRF until he can transfer with

moderate assist x 1. So, because he is max assist (R HP, recently had pacemaker

placed so has restrictions using L arm) he is to transfer from LTAC to SNF level

of care. Once he is better at transfers, he will be able to go to the IRF.

Is this a common scenario across the USA? I am familiar with transfers from IRF

going to SNF but not vice a versa. Could my neighbor have the information wrong?

Or am I out of touch with recent changes.

Aileen Ledingham PT MS

Waltham, MA

------------------------------------

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your location or else your message will not be approved to send to the full

group.

Physician Self Referal/Referral for Profit {POPTS} is a serious threat to our

professions. PTManager is not available to support POPTS-model practices. The

description of PTManager group includes the following:

" PTManager believes in and supports Therapist-owned Therapy Practices ONLY "

Messages relating to " how to set up a POPTS " will not be approved

PTManager encourages participation in your professional association. Join APTA,

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[Guest guest]

>

> Hi All

>

> This is a question, generated by a friend of mine. We live in MA, her

father was visiting a daughter in CA when he had a massive stroke. By my

neighbor's understanding, her dad will not be eligible for IRF until he can

transfer with moderate assist x 1. So, because he is max assist (R HP,

recently had pacemaker placed so has restrictions using L arm) he is to

transfer from LTAC to SNF level of care. Once he is better at transfers, he

will be able to go to the IRF.

>

> Is this a common scenario across the USA? I am familiar with transfers

from IRF going to SNF but not vice a versa. Could my neighbor have the

information wrong? Or am I out of touch with recent changes.

>

> Aileen Ledingham PT MS

> Waltham, MA

>

>

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