Guest guest Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Hi Friends, Does anyone know if Dry Needling is within scope of practice for PTs in Michigan? Â Warm wishes, Â Â SAILESHÂ SATPATHY, PT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Hi everyone, Still think billing the same way as physicians makes the most sense: different levels of evaluation ranging from brief to extensive, different standard flat rate office visit charges which cover all costs for basic care and then the ability to add procedure codes for things that need separate billing. PT could retain procedure or other E & M codes, and make new ones to accurately reflect the knowledge and training of the PT, that all agree need the specialized skill and training of the PT. The rest would covered in the office visit charge. Dry needling would be one of those " specialized skills " . Plus those specialized skills would be only done by the PT. For those wanting to use support personnel like a physician (incident-to), you could (if the law allowed it) and all those things like monitoring exercise programs, counting reps etc would be covered in the office visit charge. So the basic billing would be a type of office visit (depending on length and category of basic treatment) plus specialized procedures. Would be much simpler and allow the PT to delegate treatment tasks where legal and still get paid at a basic level for all that goes into an " office visit " . Of course this leads to the concern that this would lead to quantity billing of multiple procedures but that list of procedures would be small and finite and the need for those procedures would still have to be justified. This also would only work if quality measures would be used as well to either increase or decrease reimbursement based on whether the clinic doing quality care. Just my opinion. Tom thowell@... This email and any files transmitted with it may contain PRIVILEGED or CONFIDENTIAL information and may be read or used only by the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of the email or any of its attachments, please be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, distribution, forwarding, printing or copying of this email or any attached files is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately purge it and all attachments and notify the sender by reply email. From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of Rick Gawenda Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:16 PM To: ptmanager Subject: Dry Needling This topic has been discussed several times on this list serv and I believe it is an important discussion. Here is a policy from CareFirst BCBS in land stating dry needling is not covered as it is considered experimental/investigational. At least one of the studies reviewed was done by a member of APTA. With that said, would a payment system based on the severity of the condition and intensity of services required and provided be a better form of reimbursement instead of per CPT code or per visit without rationale for why insurances reimburse what they reimburse? Let the therapist decide what interventions are best for their patients and who is best to provide that intervention all while under the responsibility of the evaluating therapist. http://notesnet.carefirst.com/ecommerce/medicalpolicy.nsf/vwwebtablex/60e726 1c3db2eed1852576d9004f7291?OpenDocument Rick Gawenda, PT President Gawenda Seminars & Consulting, Inc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Insurance companies are quite fascinating when they express opinions about issues they clearly are not familiar with. There are indeed several insurance companies with specific policies against dry needling. Since in 1997 I introduced dry needling courses to PTs and other healthcare providers in the USA, I have initiated several discussions with insurance carriers in different states. I have an insurance-free PT-owned practice in Bethesda, MD, but still get involved when my patients are faced with denials of payment. Some of the letters I have prepared are in response to denial letters from insurance carriers, including BC/BS of land, Guardian, and others. Every insurance carrier reversed its opinion and covered all charges for the PT services which included dry needling. I do no plan to start a discussion about the validity of trigger point treatments, dry needling, or myofascial pain, but only want to illustrate that insurance companies are very good at denying anything they want in spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. The BC/BC of land policy about dry needling is pretty standard. Interestingly, not a single insurance carrier has ever consulted me or other specialists in this field. The insurance folks managed to find a few obscure papers to support their probably preconceived notion not to cover dry needling. In my letters to carriers, I present many scientific papers illustrating why denying trigger point treatments will lead to prolonged and ineffective treatments and therefore, to greater financial liabilities. I make the argument that dry needling is in fact the most specific and effective treatment option currently available within the context of manual physical therapy. I am the author of nearly 40 chapters in medical textbooks, including the prestigious Bonica's Management of Pain. Be assured that the editors of the Bonica textbook would not have included a chapter about myofascial pain, trigger points and indeed, dry needling, if there were no scientific evidence of the concept and the interventions. In addition, I prepare a quarterly review article on myofascial pain for the Journal of Musculoskeletal Pain. It is interesting that pain management experts in different countries do acknowledge the value of myofascial pain and indeed of the most specific treatment option currently available. Clinicians agree. Just today, I received an email from one of my course participants: I wanted to express my sincere thanks for the amazing information and techniques that were shared by you at the AAOP (American Academy of Orofacial Pain - JD) pre conference course in Las Vegas. Career changing and epiphany would be descriptors of how it has changed my practice even after just one course! At first a little skeptical, I now use intramuscular manual therapy in lieu of any modalities, prior to stretching, MFR or manipulative techniques. In just the last 3 months my practice has evolved to the point where requests from patients for Dry Needling has exceeded the time I have to help all those seeking to benefit from this amazingly powerful therapeutic intervention. I understand that such anecdotal testimonials do not carry any weight with folks who already know that they are not going to pay for a new and innovative technique, which is better supported by scientific evidence than most other techniques PTs use in their practices. There are many problems with how insurance companies make their arbitrary decisions. Dry needling is just a technique used within the context of manual physical therapy. There is an overwhelming amount of literature demonstrating that trigger points are associated with all pain diagnoses. Recent studies even show that treatment of trigger points in patients with fibromyalgia decreased not only the patients' local pain, but also reduced their overall pain levels. If anyone would like to get some of these references, please contact me directly and I will be happy to provide these. Many PTs use manual trigger point release techniques and not a single carrier has expressed that they will not cover such soft tissue techniques. These services are likely billed under the 97140 CPT code. Manual trigger point therapies are time-consuming compared to dry needling, which because of its high point specificity, can accomplish the same release in significantly less time. There are numerous scientific studies in support of manual trigger point release. Insurance carriers are very good in excluding relevant papers. They may quote papers on injection techniques, but select very specific sections of these papers. Commonly quoted papers (such as Hong CZ: Lidocaine injection versus dry needling to myofascial trigger point. The importance of the local twitch response. Am. J. Phys. Med. Rehabil. 73(4): 256-63, 1994, or Kamanli A, Kaya A, Ardicoglu O, Ozgocmen S, Zengin FO,Bayik Y: Comparison of lidocaine injection, botulinum toxin injection, and dry needling to trigger points in myofascial pain syndrome. Rheumatol. Int. 25(8): 604-11, 2005) are often quoted to deny dry needling, but both these papers state very clearly that dry needling was very effective. A Cochrane Review specifically stated that dry needling appears to be a useful adjunct to other therapies for chronic low back pain. It is quite amazing that in a recent " discussion " with a carrier, they mentioned a study by DiLorenzo et al (Dilorenzo L, Traballesi M, Morelli D, Pompa A, Brunelli S, Buzzi MG,Formisano R: Hemiparetic shoulder pain syndrome treated with deep dry needling during early rehabilitation: a prospective, open-label, randomized investigation. J Musculoskeletal Pain 12(2): 25-34, 2004). In this study, the only variable was dry needling and the results speak for themselves. CVA patients with a painful shoulder were divided into two groups. All subjects had the same rehabilitation program. Half got dry needling in addition. The study showed that dry needling reduced analgesic medication use, improved sleep and mood and prepared patients better for their rehabilitation program. A meta-analysis (Cummings TM, White AR, Needling therapies in the management of myofascial trigger point pain: a systematic review. Arch Phys Med Rehabil 82(7): 986-92, 2001) concluded that “direct needling of myofascial trigger points appears to be an effective treatment. " A comparative study of the effectiveness of trigger point injections with lidocaine and dry needling with solid filament needles showed that the techniques are equally effective, but the effects of dry needling lasted longer (Ga H, Choi JH, Park CH, Yoon HJ, Acupuncture needling versus lidocaine injection of trigger points in myofascial pain syndrome in elderly patients--a randomised trial. Acupuncture in Medicine: 25(4): 130-6, 2007). Wet needling or injections are always more expensive than dry needling as physicians will consider wet needling as a separate CPT code. Dry needling on the other hand is always part of other manual therapy interventions and do not increase the costs per treatment session. In other words, dry needling is budget-neutral! None of the papers that insurance quote include studies, that do demonstrate that dry needling has very specific effects, including: 1. Shah J, T, Danoff JV, Gerber LH, A novel microanalytical technique for assaying soft tissue demonstrates significant quantitative biomechanical differences in 3 clinically distinct groups: normal, latent and active. Arch Phys Med Rehabil 84: A4, 2003. 2. Shah JP, Danoff JV, Desai MJ, Parikh S, Nakamura LY, TM, Gerber LH, Biochemicals associated with pain and inflammation are elevated in sites near to and remote from active myofascial trigger points. Arch Phys Med Rehabil 89(1): 16-23, 2008. 3. Shah JP, TM, Danoff JV, Gerber LH, An in-vivo microanalytical technique for measuring the local biochemical milieu of human skeletal muscle. J Appl Physiol 99: 1977-1984, 2005. Shah and colleagues are researchers at the US National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, MD, and through their outstanding micro-dialysis studies they demonstrated that eliciting a local twitch response via dry needling immediately normalized the chemical environment of active trigger points. Clinically, these studies are very relevant. Active - or pain-producing - trigger points are characterized by the presence of multiple pain-generating chemical substances, including substance P, calcitonin-gene-related peptide, multiple interleukins, tumor-necrosing factor alpha, serotonin, and norepinephrine, among others. Dry needling is the only known remedy in addition to wet needling, which can effectively correct the chemical environment of trigger points. Meta-analyses of the effectiveness of dry needling always fail to include such high-level studies, but that does not make this NIH research irrelevant. Lucas and colleagues demonstrated eloquently that latent trigger points have immediate negative implications for movement patterns. Release of trigger points via dry needling immediately corrected the movement dysfunction. Physical therapists are concerned about correcting movement dysfunction. Dry needling is a very effective treatment technique (see for example Lucas KR, Polus BI, Rich PS, Latent myofascial trigger points: their effects on muscle activation and movement efficiency. J Bodyw Mov Ther 8: 160-166, 2004; Lucas KR, Rich PA, Polus BI, Muscle activation patterns in the scapular positioning muscles during loaded scapular plane elevation: the effects of latent myofascial trigger points. Clinical Biomechanics 25(8): 765-770, 2010). Latent trigger points are not only important for motor dysfunction, but they also contribute to central sensitization as has been demonstrated by numerous recent studies. In other words, when physical therapists use dry needling as part of their treatment regimen, they not only correct movement dysfunctions, but they also contribute to a sharp and immediate reduction of pain. Central sensitization is one of the most intriguing aspects of myofascial trigger points. In summary, I believe there is ample literature supporting the use of dry needling in the physical therapy treatment of patients with pain and movement dysfunction. It is important to realize that dry needing is never a stand-alone therapy, but is always a relatively small part of the manual physical therapy treatment. I believe that dry needling is a budget-neutral manual therapy technique. Insurance carriers assume that physical therapists who include dry needling will increase costs. Quite to the contrary, considering the long (but still incomplete) list of references, it is important to realize that dry needling increases the specificity of the treatments and as such will likely reduce the total number of treatments required. Lessons to be learned: 1. When an insurance carriers denies a treatment technique, carefully read their arguments and reply with excellent scientific research. 2. PTs who want to be autonomous should stand up for our profession. Irrespective of whether a PT has experience with dry needling or any other technique, let the science do the talking. 3. I agree with Rick to " Let the therapist decide what interventions are best for their patients and who is best to provide that intervention all while under the responsibility of the evaluating therapist. " Jan Dommerholt, PT, DPT, MPS Myopain Seminars, LLC + (voice) + (fax) www.myopainseminars.com dommerholt@... 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