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Hi Everyone,

We are again looking at our scheduling processes and practices to gain more

efficiency and to better meet the needs of the patients and of course, to meet

the 3 hour rule.

Like many facilities, we struggle with patients being " ready " for their therapy

appointments and especially for the first appointment of the day. Some

facilities have appointments as early as 8:00 a.m. (not including OT ADL). I

found that most start at 8:30 a.m. (out of the room appointments). Not

including OT ADL at bedside, our first appointments are 9:30 a.m.

Years ago, we started at 8:30 a.m. but decided to push it down to 9:30 to give

the patients more time to get ready and in a functional manner. Also, to reduce

the need to wake them up so early.

What we found is that the same reasons that patients weren't ready at 8:30 a.m.

are happening at 9:30. We want to move back to 8:30 a.m. but before we do so we

need to redesign some processes related to the nursing staff's morning routine

and be sure we individualize the schedules according to the patients needs and

preferences. The nursing staff is very stressed out about the idea of therapy

going back to 8:30. They are having a hard time getting everything done (pass

meds, assessments, attend team rounds, wound care, self-care, etc.) for the 9:30

appointments. The patients have a lot of medical needs and some impairments

really add to the time it takes for all activities to be completed (eating,

self-care, 2 person assist transfer, etc.).

My questions to the group:

1. do you follow any criteria for which patients have the earliest appointments

(whatever that is for your facility). Currently, we do not. We will reschedule

if we find that the patient cannot be ready that early. Our nurses will

sometimes put a hold on the patients schedule ( " nursing time " in our scheduling

system).

2. do your therapists select their appointment times for patients? Ours do but

they frequently make changes based on patients needs/tolerance/preference. Or

is it a clerical function? Or a team decision after your evaluations?

3. Do the disciplines (specifically OT and PT) coordinate their appointments?

We do not on the front end but will do so as needed to meet the needs of the

patient. If yes, what criteria do they use? What is it they are trying

accomplish by coordinating them? Typically, our driving force for coordinating

is to reduce the back and forth of patients to the unit and the gym (the

transportation).

4. Typically, what is the most time (duration) a patient attends appointments?

It's not unusual for us to schedule patients for 3 straight hours of therapy. If

they can't tolerate it, we change it. Do they have back to back appts? We do.

Our usual schedule is PT b.id. (60 min in a.m. and 60 min in p.m.) and OT one

hour.

5. Do you have limits on the duration of time a patient attends appts? Only if

needed, based on patient's tolerance and preference.

6. As a rule, does your nursing staff have patient's ready for their first

appointment of the day? Please define the term " ready " . Does " ready " mean they

are bathed, dressed and sitting in the wheelchair ready for transport? Or do

the therapists take them as they are?

7. What percent of your OT and PT appts are done at bedside or on the nursing

unit? Primarily, only our OT ADL in the morning. As a rule, our patients are

transported to the PT/OT department for treatments.

Can you share processes and practices that you find helpful with having patients

ready for their first appointment of the day.

e.g. Nursing schedules, therapy schedules, the role of all staff in contributing

to the readiness of patients for appts, does PT staff help with self-care if

it's not already completed, how many ADL's are done by OT, etc?

We are looking at throwing out our whole scheduling process and starting over!!

Not sure what it will look like but we need to do something very different to

stop the madness! We can't keep jumping through burning hoops to ensure

patients receive 3 hours of therapy, in the most quality manner. And, let's not

forget, achieve patient and employee satisfaction too!

Sorry, lots of questions--I really value your input and appreciate the time you

take to reply to these posts!

Lori Stoddart, OTR/L

Inpatient Therapy Manager

Physical Rehabilitation Services

Henry Ford Wyandotte Hospital

2333 Biddle Avenue

Wyandotte, MI 48192

734/246-8963

lstodda1@...

Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of

battle

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Good morning!

We do start as early as 7:30, every evening we provide the nursing staff with

next day's schedule, with notes referring to wether the patient will have a

feeding session or ADL session, nursing staff (night shift) copy the schedule

in each patient's room so they know night before what to expect, patients are

consulted on how early they want to have their therapy session, if for any

reason a change needs to happen, they are made before 8:00 a.m, and changes are

communicated verbally to patients and changes are made on room boards.

If we have patients that required to be fed or are low levels, nursing will

communicate that during daily rounds and/ or Team conference, so therapists will

accommodate for a later appt. We implemented this about 18 months ago, and made

a great difference .

Hope this information is helpful!!

Leonor , R.P.T

Manager, Inpatient Rehabilitation Services

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>>> " Stoddart, Lori " 5/4/2011 9:07 AM >>>

Hi Everyone,

We are again looking at our scheduling processes and practices to gain more

efficiency and to better meet the needs of the patients and of course, to meet

the 3 hour rule.

Like many facilities, we struggle with patients being " ready " for their therapy

appointments and especially for the first appointment of the day. Some

facilities have appointments as early as 8:00 a.m. (not including OT ADL). I

found that most start at 8:30 a.m. (out of the room appointments). Not including

OT ADL at bedside, our first appointments are 9:30 a.m.

Years ago, we started at 8:30 a.m. but decided to push it down to 9:30 to give

the patients more time to get ready and in a functional manner. Also, to reduce

the need to wake them up so early.

What we found is that the same reasons that patients weren't ready at 8:30 a.m.

are happening at 9:30. We want to move back to 8:30 a.m. but before we do so we

need to redesign some processes related to the nursing staff's morning routine

and be sure we individualize the schedules according to the patients needs and

preferences. The nursing staff is very stressed out about the idea of therapy

going back to 8:30. They are having a hard time getting everything done (pass

meds, assessments, attend team rounds, wound care, self-care, etc.) for the 9:30

appointments. The patients have a lot of medical needs and some impairments

really add to the time it takes for all activities to be completed (eating,

self-care, 2 person assist transfer, etc.).

My questions to the group:

1. do you follow any criteria for which patients have the earliest appointments

(whatever that is for your facility). Currently, we do not. We will reschedule

if we find that the patient cannot be ready that early. Our nurses will

sometimes put a hold on the patients schedule ( " nursing time " in our scheduling

system).

2. do your therapists select their appointment times for patients? Ours do but

they frequently make changes based on patients needs/tolerance/preference. Or is

it a clerical function? Or a team decision after your evaluations?

3. Do the disciplines (specifically OT and PT) coordinate their appointments? We

do not on the front end but will do so as needed to meet the needs of the

patient. If yes, what criteria do they use? What is it they are trying

accomplish by coordinating them? Typically, our driving force for coordinating

is to reduce the back and forth of patients to the unit and the gym (the

transportation).

4. Typically, what is the most time (duration) a patient attends appointments?

It's not unusual for us to schedule patients for 3 straight hours of therapy. If

they can't tolerate it, we change it. Do they have back to back appts? We do.

Our usual schedule is PT b.id. (60 min in a.m. and 60 min in p.m.) and OT one

hour.

5. Do you have limits on the duration of time a patient attends appts? Only if

needed, based on patient's tolerance and preference.

6. As a rule, does your nursing staff have patient's ready for their first

appointment of the day? Please define the term " ready " . Does " ready " mean they

are bathed, dressed and sitting in the wheelchair ready for transport? Or do the

therapists take them as they are?

7. What percent of your OT and PT appts are done at bedside or on the nursing

unit? Primarily, only our OT ADL in the morning. As a rule, our patients are

transported to the PT/OT department for treatments.

Can you share processes and practices that you find helpful with having patients

ready for their first appointment of the day.

e.g. Nursing schedules, therapy schedules, the role of all staff in contributing

to the readiness of patients for appts, does PT staff help with self-care if

it's not already completed, how many ADL's are done by OT, etc?

We are looking at throwing out our whole scheduling process and starting over!!

Not sure what it will look like but we need to do something very different to

stop the madness! We can't keep jumping through burning hoops to ensure patients

receive 3 hours of therapy, in the most quality manner. And, let's not forget,

achieve patient and employee satisfaction too!

Sorry, lots of questions--I really value your input and appreciate the time you

take to reply to these posts!

Lori Stoddart, OTR/L

Inpatient Therapy Manager

Physical Rehabilitation Services

Henry Ford Wyandotte Hospital

2333 Biddle Avenue

Wyandotte, MI 48192

734/246-8963

lstodda1@...

Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of

battle

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