Info on IRFs in Hawaii and Virgina

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I am looking for information related to quality of the following two rehabs:

UVA in Charlottesville, VA and Rehab Hospital of the Pacific in Honolulu. I

have a family member who lives in VA but was injured in Hawaii and has a SCI. I

would like to have input on the quality of these programs as we look at staying

there or returning home for rehab.

Please do not respond to the group as I am asking for quality info. My private

emails are: images@... and angela.phillips@... Please

use one of these. Thank you in advance.

Angie

Angie , PT

Images & Associates

President/CEO

6707 Barcelona

Irving, Texas 75039-3041

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From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of

keith bisesi

Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 8:14 PM

To: PTManager

Subject: Re: Re: Chrio providing " PT " in Michigan

As previously stated, chiro's, massage therapists etc cannont use physical

therapy, physiotherapy etc. I've even turned in a health club which put PT on

their personal trainers' shirts as a suffix. Their marketing slogan was PT

1-2-3... The problem with chiro's is they can perform therapeutic exercise and

bill the 97000 group of codes ther ex etc, as can an MD if he actually performs

the service themselves. Do you think a chiropactor is going to take a patient

through a 45 minute exercise session? Of course not, they have an unqualified

chiropractic assistant take them through exercises and bill the service.

Bisesi MPT, COMT

Winter Haven, FL

From: TSTEGMAN2 <tstegster@... <mailto:tstegster%40gmail.com> >

Subject: Re: Chrio providing " PT " in Michigan

To: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com>

Date: Thursday, April 14, 2011, 8:32 AM

I would understand the portion of physical therapy that would be inferring

is the use of the words " physical therapy, physical therapist, physiotherapy,

physiotherapist, etc... " . Although that may seem a bit trivial, it means a lot

and should be in all the States practice act. I have seen several physicians,

chiros, and even some massage places advertise on signs, websites, door fronts,

etc... that they perform physical therapy. If they do not have a licensed

physical therapy on staff and/or are not registered with the state, this is in

violation of the Texas PT Practice Act, and I turn them in to the Texas State

Board of Physical Therapy (ECPTOTE)to have them investigated. In all instances,

the advertisement has been removed. In one instance, the PT working at the

facility was disciplined for working at a non-registered facility. The problem

is keeping up with it so that they do not do it again.

All PTs should be monitoring their areas for improper use of the words physical

therapy and other violations of their practice acts so that a layperson that

otherwise would not understand the law would be guaranteed they are actually

being treated by a licensed physical therapist.

Terry Stegman, PT, MS, Eng-Phy, BS

>

> ,

> Just curious. With the right to treat joints and perform rehabilitative

exercises and with having massage therapists in their offices to cover the soft

tissue portion of manual therapy, it sounds like they have a substantial portion

of physical therapy covered. Exactly what is the " physical therapy " that they're

not permitted to do? Other than modalities (which many chiropractors utilize as

well), I'm hard pressed to think of any portion of physical therapy that hasn't

been co-opted by some other group. ly, I'm getting a bit tired of cleaning

up the messes left by personal trainers, massage therapists, and especially, the

growing group of assorted whackadoodle chicken blood dispensers when patients

are mismanaged by these personnel. I lectured around the country for many years

on integrating effective elements of alternative/complementary/holistic

approaches with conventional manual and movement therapy aspects of physical

therapy so I'm open and

supportive of non-traditional viewpoints which can enhance patient care but the

situation is just getting to be over the top. The classic one was a massage

therapist who approached me marketing her services. I asked her 3 simple

clinical questions and she didn't have a clue. When asked about her anatomy

education, she proudly informed me her " textbook " in her education was The

Coloring Book of Anatomy! I brought out my old classic 35th British edition of

Gray's Anatomy and the newer Primal 3D Interactive Series and politely suggested

she may want to beef up her education a bit.

>

> , PT, OCS

> Marquette, MI

>

> Chrio providing " PT " in Michigan

>

>

> Hi Group,

>

> Evaluated a pt last week who had been seeing a chiropractor for the past 3-4

> months after an auto accident. Pt said that the chiro had also been doing " PT "

> which consisted of horiffic resisted neck exercises, hanging head off table,

> etc. Pt said chiro told her he had " taken some classes " in PT. Any suggestions

> on how to address this? Contact the chiro directly, Mich. State Board?

>

> Thanks!

>

> Chris

>

>