Re: Ratio of aides/techs to licensed staff--inpatient acute & IRF

[Guest guest]

We have 6 techs for 16 PT's and 8 PTAs or roughly 1 to 4 licensed staff who

provide direct patient care. In Rehab we have 1.5 techs for 7 licensed staff.

If tracking productivity through Premier, support staff reduction has helped

benefit our worked hrs/uos stat.

Carol Rehder, PT

Manager, Physical Therapy

Genesis Medical Center

rehder@...

A J.D. Power and Associates

Distinguished Hospital for providing

" An Outstanding Patient Experience "

>>> " Dan " 7/8/2011 2:53 PM >>>

Hello,

It's budget season! I'm looking for resources on the topic of the " appropriate "

ratio of unlicensed support staff (aides, techs, etc) to PT/PTA staff in these

settings:

1) Large, level I traumau center, acute care teaching hospital, including an

ortho unit. We are at about a 1:4 ratio now for aides to PT/PTA staff, though

OT's also occasionally need aide assistance with wound care patients.

2) Inpatient Rehabilitation facility (IRF). We are at a 1:3 ratio for aides to

PT/OT staff.

Does anyone know of such resources, or be willing to share what your facility

uses? Thanks,

Dan Gaskell

Carilion Clinic

Roanoke, VA

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[Guest guest]

We have 6 techs for 16 PT's and 8 PTAs or roughly 1 to 4 licensed staff who

provide direct patient care. In Rehab we have 1.5 techs for 7 licensed staff.

If tracking productivity through Premier, support staff reduction has helped

benefit our worked hrs/uos stat.

Carol Rehder, PT

Manager, Physical Therapy

Genesis Medical Center

rehder@...

A J.D. Power and Associates

Distinguished Hospital for providing

" An Outstanding Patient Experience "

>>> " Dan " 7/8/2011 2:53 PM >>>

Hello,

It's budget season! I'm looking for resources on the topic of the " appropriate "

ratio of unlicensed support staff (aides, techs, etc) to PT/PTA staff in these

settings:

1) Large, level I traumau center, acute care teaching hospital, including an

ortho unit. We are at about a 1:4 ratio now for aides to PT/PTA staff, though

OT's also occasionally need aide assistance with wound care patients.

2) Inpatient Rehabilitation facility (IRF). We are at a 1:3 ratio for aides to

PT/OT staff.

Does anyone know of such resources, or be willing to share what your facility

uses? Thanks,

Dan Gaskell

Carilion Clinic

Roanoke, VA

------------------------------------

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your location or else your message will not be approved to send to the full

group.

Physician Self Referal/Referral for Profit {POPTS} is a serious threat to our

professions. PTManager is not available to support POPTS-model practices. The

description of PTManager group includes the following:

" PTManager believes in and supports Therapist-owned Therapy Practices ONLY "

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AOTA or ASHA and participate now!

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[Guest guest]

I would like to expand on this topic and ask what the duties are for the rehab

techs in IRF.

We have 2 full-time techs on a 38 bed unit. Our usual census is 26-28. They

provide support to OT and PT. We have 4 PT, 4PTA, 4 OTR and 2 COTA.

Primary duties are transporting patients, w/c follows, housekeeping, stocking

linen, and some back up support for clerical staff (phones and charge entry).

Lori Stoddart, OTR/L

Inpatient Therapy Manager

Physical Rehabilitation Services

Henry Ford Wyandotte Hospital

2333 Biddle Avenue

Wyandotte, MI 48192

734/246-8963

lstodda1@...

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From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of

Carol Rehder

Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 10:00 AM

To: PTManager

Subject: Re: Ratio of aides/techs to licensed staff--inpatient acute

& IRF

We have 6 techs for 16 PT's and 8 PTAs or roughly 1 to 4 licensed staff who

provide direct patient care. In Rehab we have 1.5 techs for 7 licensed staff. If

tracking productivity through Premier, support staff reduction has helped

benefit our worked hrs/uos stat.

Carol Rehder, PT

Manager, Physical Therapy

Genesis Medical Center

rehder@...<mailto:rehder%40genesishealth.com>

A J.D. Power and Associates

Distinguished Hospital for providing

" An Outstanding Patient Experience "

>>> " Dan " <danielgaskell@...<mailto:danielgaskell%40yahoo.com>> 7/8/2011

2:53 PM >>>

Hello,

It's budget season! I'm looking for resources on the topic of the " appropriate "

ratio of unlicensed support staff (aides, techs, etc) to PT/PTA staff in these

settings:

1) Large, level I traumau center, acute care teaching hospital, including an

ortho unit. We are at about a 1:4 ratio now for aides to PT/PTA staff, though

OT's also occasionally need aide assistance with wound care patients.

2) Inpatient Rehabilitation facility (IRF). We are at a 1:3 ratio for aides to

PT/OT staff.

Does anyone know of such resources, or be willing to share what your facility

uses? Thanks,

Dan Gaskell

Carilion Clinic

Roanoke, VA

------------------------------------

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your location or else your message will not be approved to send to the full

group.

Physician Self Referal/Referral for Profit {POPTS} is a serious threat to our

professions. PTManager is not available to support POPTS-model practices. The

description of PTManager group includes the following:

" PTManager believes in and supports Therapist-owned Therapy Practices ONLY "

Messages relating to " how to set up a POPTS " will not be approved

PTManager encourages participation in your professional association. Join APTA,

AOTA or ASHA and participate now!

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[Guest guest]

I would like to expand on this topic and ask what the duties are for the rehab

techs in IRF.

We have 2 full-time techs on a 38 bed unit. Our usual census is 26-28. They

provide support to OT and PT. We have 4 PT, 4PTA, 4 OTR and 2 COTA.

Primary duties are transporting patients, w/c follows, housekeeping, stocking

linen, and some back up support for clerical staff (phones and charge entry).

Lori Stoddart, OTR/L

Inpatient Therapy Manager

Physical Rehabilitation Services

Henry Ford Wyandotte Hospital

2333 Biddle Avenue

Wyandotte, MI 48192

734/246-8963

lstodda1@...

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From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of

Carol Rehder

Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 10:00 AM

To: PTManager

Subject: Re: Ratio of aides/techs to licensed staff--inpatient acute

& IRF

We have 6 techs for 16 PT's and 8 PTAs or roughly 1 to 4 licensed staff who

provide direct patient care. In Rehab we have 1.5 techs for 7 licensed staff. If

tracking productivity through Premier, support staff reduction has helped

benefit our worked hrs/uos stat.

Carol Rehder, PT

Manager, Physical Therapy

Genesis Medical Center

rehder@...<mailto:rehder%40genesishealth.com>

A J.D. Power and Associates

Distinguished Hospital for providing

" An Outstanding Patient Experience "

>>> " Dan " <danielgaskell@...<mailto:danielgaskell%40yahoo.com>> 7/8/2011

2:53 PM >>>

Hello,

It's budget season! I'm looking for resources on the topic of the " appropriate "

ratio of unlicensed support staff (aides, techs, etc) to PT/PTA staff in these

settings:

1) Large, level I traumau center, acute care teaching hospital, including an

ortho unit. We are at about a 1:4 ratio now for aides to PT/PTA staff, though

OT's also occasionally need aide assistance with wound care patients.

2) Inpatient Rehabilitation facility (IRF). We are at a 1:3 ratio for aides to

PT/OT staff.

Does anyone know of such resources, or be willing to share what your facility

uses? Thanks,

Dan Gaskell

Carilion Clinic

Roanoke, VA

------------------------------------

In ALL messages to PTManager you must identify yourself, your discipline and

your location or else your message will not be approved to send to the full

group.

Physician Self Referal/Referral for Profit {POPTS} is a serious threat to our

professions. PTManager is not available to support POPTS-model practices. The

description of PTManager group includes the following:

" PTManager believes in and supports Therapist-owned Therapy Practices ONLY "

Messages relating to " how to set up a POPTS " will not be approved

PTManager encourages participation in your professional association. Join APTA,

AOTA or ASHA and participate now!

Follow Kovacek, PT on Facebook or Twitter.

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[Guest guest]

We have a 38 bed unit also, with adc of 28 and budgeted adc of 24 in FY12. Our

techs work primarily with the PT's and PTA's providing second pair of hands,

equipment set up, helping transport patients, cleaning mats, equipment,

monitoring dispensing, return, cleaning of w/c cushions, minor w/c repair and

adjustments. Additionally they do JC required equipment checks on daily or

weekly basis as required. More senior ones have learned back up role to

secretary to fill in as needed for basic clerical responsibilities. They also

float to acute areas when not needed in PT Rehab gym. Also may serve in 1:1

patient supervision on off shifts for those rehab patients who need constant

observation because of cognitive issues. Nursing unit availability of staff for

1:1 observation is always a need.

Carol Rehder, PT

Manager, Physical Therapy

Genesis Medical Center

rehder@...

A J.D. Power and Associates

Distinguished Hospital for providing

" An Outstanding Patient Experience "

>>> " Stoddart, Lori " 7/11/2011 11:08 AM >>>

I would like to expand on this topic and ask what the duties are for the rehab

techs in IRF.

We have 2 full-time techs on a 38 bed unit. Our usual census is 26-28. They

provide support to OT and PT. We have 4 PT, 4PTA, 4 OTR and 2 COTA.

Primary duties are transporting patients, w/c follows, housekeeping, stocking

linen, and some back up support for clerical staff (phones and charge entry).

Lori Stoddart, OTR/L

Inpatient Therapy Manager

Physical Rehabilitation Services

Henry Ford Wyandotte Hospital

2333 Biddle Avenue

Wyandotte, MI 48192

734/246-8963

lstodda1@...

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From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of

Carol Rehder

Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 10:00 AM

To: PTManager

Subject: Re: Ratio of aides/techs to licensed staff--inpatient acute

& IRF

We have 6 techs for 16 PT's and 8 PTAs or roughly 1 to 4 licensed staff who

provide direct patient care. In Rehab we have 1.5 techs for 7 licensed staff. If

tracking productivity through Premier, support staff reduction has helped

benefit our worked hrs/uos stat.

Carol Rehder, PT

Manager, Physical Therapy

Genesis Medical Center

rehder@...<mailto:rehder%40genesishealth.com>

A J.D. Power and Associates

Distinguished Hospital for providing

" An Outstanding Patient Experience "

>>> " Dan " <danielgaskell@...<mailto:danielgaskell%40yahoo.com>> 7/8/2011

2:53 PM >>>

Hello,

It's budget season! I'm looking for resources on the topic of the " appropriate "

ratio of unlicensed support staff (aides, techs, etc) to PT/PTA staff in these

settings:

1) Large, level I traumau center, acute care teaching hospital, including an

ortho unit. We are at about a 1:4 ratio now for aides to PT/PTA staff, though

OT's also occasionally need aide assistance with wound care patients.

2) Inpatient Rehabilitation facility (IRF). We are at a 1:3 ratio for aides to

PT/OT staff.

Does anyone know of such resources, or be willing to share what your facility

uses? Thanks,

Dan Gaskell

Carilion Clinic

Roanoke, VA

------------------------------------

In ALL messages to PTManager you must identify yourself, your discipline and

your location or else your message will not be approved to send to the full

group.

Physician Self Referal/Referral for Profit {POPTS} is a serious threat to our

professions. PTManager is not available to support POPTS-model practices. The

description of PTManager group includes the following:

" PTManager believes in and supports Therapist-owned Therapy Practices ONLY "

Messages relating to " how to set up a POPTS " will not be approved

PTManager encourages participation in your professional association. Join APTA,

AOTA or ASHA and participate now!

Follow Kovacek, PT on Facebook or Twitter.

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