Guest guest Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 , In my past life as a rehabilitation consultant and vocational consultant, I did various job analysis both written and video taped. To effectively do a job analysis, you would want to video tape the different aspects of the job being analyzed. This may require your taping different activities at different times throughout the day but typically can be done in one visit. I use to do the video taping myself. You would also want to interview a person who performs the job. For me, that was usually the claimant I was working with or their supervisor. Much like doing a functional capacities evaluation, you want to know how long they stand/sit in a day, how many hours they work in a day, how much lifting is involved, how much walking, bending, etc. I think it is most valuable to provide a video of the job's major aspects as well as a written report of the functional requirements of the job. I think as a physical therapist, you could also provide any suggestions on how to make the job more ergonomic to prevent further injuries. That to me would be a big plus. Being a vocational counselor, I also provide information from the Occupational Outlook Handbook on the job just as a reference. Unfortunately, it has been nearly 15 years since I did any job analysis and I don't have any samples available of a job analysis to share. On the plus side, digital cameras are a lot easier to deal with than the old VHS ones. Hope that helps. Just remember for worker's comp the most important thing is that the job analysis covers the functional requirements of the job. Becky A. Sewell, MRC, CRC Rehab Net of AR/ArPTA P.O. Box 202 Conway, AR 72033 ph/fax _____ From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of Kevyn Soupiset Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:01 PM To: PTManager Subject: Video Job Analysis Group Have been approached by a WC case manager regarding performing a video job analysis for one of their clients......THEY have not had one of the occur, nor have I. In my mind it's equivalent to an ergonomic evaluation, but would I be incorrect in assuming, this involves an unattended/or attended camera for a length of time, on a patient and then giving the feedback and analysis? Am I close? Does this require a certification to validate..? Who has experience with this and could provide me some input? Thanks Kevyn Soupiset, PT, MPT " Success often comes from taking a misstep in the right direction. " Progressive Therapy & Sports Medicine 117 W. 6th Larned, KS 67550 Ph: Fax www.progressive-larned.com <http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 <http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & > & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & v> http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 <http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & v> & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 Thank you for the info Becky Haven any idea what to charge? Kevyn Soupiset, PT, MPT " Success often comes from taking a misstep in the right direction. " Progressive Therapy & Sports Medicine 117 W. 6th Larned, KS 67550 Ph: Fax www.progressive-larned.com <http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & v> http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & v From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of Becky Sewell Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:04 AM To: PTManager Subject: RE: Video Job Analysis , In my past life as a rehabilitation consultant and vocational consultant, I did various job analysis both written and video taped. To effectively do a job analysis, you would want to video tape the different aspects of the job being analyzed. This may require your taping different activities at different times throughout the day but typically can be done in one visit. I use to do the video taping myself. You would also want to interview a person who performs the job. For me, that was usually the claimant I was working with or their supervisor. Much like doing a functional capacities evaluation, you want to know how long they stand/sit in a day, how many hours they work in a day, how much lifting is involved, how much walking, bending, etc. I think it is most valuable to provide a video of the job's major aspects as well as a written report of the functional requirements of the job. I think as a physical therapist, you could also provide any suggestions on how to make the job more ergonomic to prevent further injuries. That to me would be a big plus. Being a vocational counselor, I also provide information from the Occupational Outlook Handbook on the job just as a reference. Unfortunately, it has been nearly 15 years since I did any job analysis and I don't have any samples available of a job analysis to share. On the plus side, digital cameras are a lot easier to deal with than the old VHS ones. Hope that helps. Just remember for worker's comp the most important thing is that the job analysis covers the functional requirements of the job. Becky A. Sewell, MRC, CRC Rehab Net of AR/ArPTA P.O. Box 202 Conway, AR 72033 ph/fax _____ From: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Kevyn Soupiset Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:01 PM To: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Video Job Analysis Group Have been approached by a WC case manager regarding performing a video job analysis for one of their clients......THEY have not had one of the occur, nor have I. In my mind it's equivalent to an ergonomic evaluation, but would I be incorrect in assuming, this involves an unattended/or attended camera for a length of time, on a patient and then giving the feedback and analysis? Am I close? Does this require a certification to validate..? Who has experience with this and could provide me some input? Thanks Kevyn Soupiset, PT, MPT " Success often comes from taking a misstep in the right direction. " Progressive Therapy & Sports Medicine 117 W. 6th Larned, KS 67550 Ph: Fax www.progressive-larned.com <http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 <http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 <http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & > & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & > & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & v> http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 <http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 <http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & > & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & v> & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 , As I stated it has been a very long time since I did anything like that and I am a certified rehab counselor and not a PT. In my day, we charged $50 an hour for time spent on any activities. I would imagine your time is worth more than $50 an hour. I would contemplate how long it would take you and charge a rate according to what your time is worth. I would anticipate your time is worth at least $75 an hour and it would possibly take you 3 hours to complete the task, but this is just my guessing. I am also assuming this employer is in the same town as you. Otherwise you would want to calculate travel time and mileage. Good luck! Becky A. Sewell, MRC, CRC Rehab Net of AR/ArPTA P.O. Box 202 Conway, AR 72033 ph/fax _____ From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of Kevyn Soupiset Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:19 AM To: PTManager Subject: RE: Video Job Analysis Thank you for the info Becky Haven any idea what to charge? Kevyn Soupiset, PT, MPT " Success often comes from taking a misstep in the right direction. " Progressive Therapy & Sports Medicine 117 W. 6th Larned, KS 67550 Ph: Fax www.progressive-larned.com <http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 <http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & > & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & v> http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 <http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & v> & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & v From: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Becky Sewell Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:04 AM To: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: Video Job Analysis , In my past life as a rehabilitation consultant and vocational consultant, I did various job analysis both written and video taped. To effectively do a job analysis, you would want to video tape the different aspects of the job being analyzed. This may require your taping different activities at different times throughout the day but typically can be done in one visit. I use to do the video taping myself. You would also want to interview a person who performs the job. For me, that was usually the claimant I was working with or their supervisor. Much like doing a functional capacities evaluation, you want to know how long they stand/sit in a day, how many hours they work in a day, how much lifting is involved, how much walking, bending, etc. I think it is most valuable to provide a video of the job's major aspects as well as a written report of the functional requirements of the job. I think as a physical therapist, you could also provide any suggestions on how to make the job more ergonomic to prevent further injuries. That to me would be a big plus. Being a vocational counselor, I also provide information from the Occupational Outlook Handbook on the job just as a reference. Unfortunately, it has been nearly 15 years since I did any job analysis and I don't have any samples available of a job analysis to share. On the plus side, digital cameras are a lot easier to deal with than the old VHS ones. Hope that helps. Just remember for worker's comp the most important thing is that the job analysis covers the functional requirements of the job. Becky A. Sewell, MRC, CRC Rehab Net of AR/ArPTA P.O. Box 202 Conway, AR 72033 ph/fax _____ From: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Kevyn Soupiset Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:01 PM To: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Video Job Analysis Group Have been approached by a WC case manager regarding performing a video job analysis for one of their clients......THEY have not had one of the occur, nor have I. In my mind it's equivalent to an ergonomic evaluation, but would I be incorrect in assuming, this involves an unattended/or attended camera for a length of time, on a patient and then giving the feedback and analysis? Am I close? Does this require a certification to validate..? Who has experience with this and could provide me some input? Thanks Kevyn Soupiset, PT, MPT " Success often comes from taking a misstep in the right direction. " Progressive Therapy & Sports Medicine 117 W. 6th Larned, KS 67550 Ph: Fax www.progressive-larned.com <http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 <http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 <http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 <http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & > & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & > & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & > & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & v> http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 <http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 <http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 <http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & > & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & > & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & v> & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 I did the training with ErgoScience for their 'Qualitative Job Site Analysis'. This is MUCH different and in more in depth then an ergonomic assessment. Matt Capo, PT Accelerated Physical Therapy and Occupational Health, Inc. Bay St. Louis and Diamondhead, Mississippi Video Job Analysis Group Have been approached by a WC case manager regarding performing a video job analysis for one of their clients......THEY have not had one of the occur, nor have I. In my mind it's equivalent to an ergonomic evaluation, but would I be incorrect in assuming, this involves an unattended/or attended camera for a length of time, on a patient and then giving the feedback and analysis? Am I close? Does this require a certification to validate..? Who has experience with this and could provide me some input? Thanks Kevyn Soupiset, PT, MPT " Success often comes from taking a misstep in the right direction. " Progressive Therapy & Sports Medicine 117 W. 6th Larned, KS 67550 Ph: Fax www.progressive-larned.com <http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 <http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 <http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 <http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & > & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & > & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & > & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & v> http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 <http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 <http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 <http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & > & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & > & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & v> & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 Hi , I do quite a bit of this work and would agree with Becky, at least $75 per hour, many providers I know are higher at $100 or more (although in some markets I hear it is as low as $55). The first thing I would do is ensure you know exactly what the case manager wants. Usually with a video analysis request, they want video and a report with an understanding of the functions and summary of the physical demands required to perform the job, if it is for a client already out of work and there are questions of causation or work ability (to compare the person to the job and see if there are gaps). I rarely just get a request for a video. Ergonomic requests or assessments usually relate to group level job analysis not related to an injury, unless there is an understanding the person may not be able to return to the job and they are looking for recommendations to make the job fit better for one worker (or all workers could perform easier). If the request is to help with an IME, the case manager may be relaying a request from a physician that may need to be clarified. Feel free to shoot me an email if you have additional questions. Regards, Dee Dee Daley, PT, DPT ddaley@... WorkWell Systems New Ipswich NH Thank you for the info Becky Haven any idea what to charge? Kevyn Soupiset, PT, MPT " Success often comes from taking a misstep in the right direction. " Progressive Therapy & Sports Medicine 117 W. 6th Larned, KS 67550 Ph: Fax www.progressive-larned.com <_http://www.elocal link.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & _ (http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & ) v> _http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & v_ (http://www.elocallink.tv/vp6/spon-fcsa_a.php?fvm=1 & sponid=AjUFMg5rVjtUYg== & v) From: _PTManager _ (mailto:PTManager ) [mailto:_PTManager _ (mailto:PTManager ) ] On Behalf Of Becky Sewell Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:04 AM To: _PTManager _ (mailto:PTManager ) Subject: RE: Video Job Analysis , In my past life as a rehabilitation consultant and vocational consultant, I did various job analysis both written and video taped. To effectively do a job analysis, you would want to video tape the different aspects of the job being analyzed. This may require your taping different activities at different times throughout the day but typically can be done in one visit. I use to do the video taping myself. You would also want to interview a person who performs the job. For me, that was usually the claimant I was working with or their supervisor. Much like doing a functional capacities evaluation, you want to know how long they stand/sit in a day, how many hours they work in a day, how much lifting is involved, how much walking, bending, etc. I think it is most valuable to provide a video of the job's major aspects as well as a written report of the functional requirements of the job. I think as a physical therapist, you could also provide any suggestions on how to make the job more ergonomic to prevent further injuries. That to me would be a big plus. Being a vocational counselor, I also provide information from the Occupational Outlook Handbook on the job just as a reference. Unfortunately, it has been nearly 15 years since I did any job analysis and I don't have any samples available of a job analysis to share. On the plus side, digital cameras are a lot easier to deal with than the old VHS ones. Hope that helps. Just remember for worker's comp the most important thing is that the job analysis covers the functional requirements of the job. Becky A. Sewell, MRC, CRC Rehab Net of AR/ArPTA P.O. Box 202 Conway, AR 72033 ph/fax _____ From: _PTManager _ (mailto:PTManager ) <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:_PTManager _ (mailto:PTManager ) <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Kevyn Soupiset Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:01 PM To: _PTManager _ (mailto:PTManager ) <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Video Job Analysis Group Have been approached by a WC case manager regarding performing a video job analysis for one of their clients......THEY have not had one of the occur, nor have I. In my mind it's equivalent to an ergonomic evaluation, but would I be incorrect in assuming, this involves an unattended/or attended camera for a length of time, on a patient and then giving the feedback and analysis? Am I close? Does this require a certification to validate..? Who has experience with this and could provide me some input? Thanks Kevyn Soupiset, PT, MPT " Success often comes from taking a misstep in the right direction. 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