Guest guest Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 We do not have mobility technicians at our facility but I am working with nursing staff on enhancing our culture of mobility. My question for Matt and others is, how are you defining skilled PT for others to understand? Do you say that anyone who has PT orders is not to be moved or ambulated by anyone but therapy? I don't want to put patients at risk for safety issues but I don't want a bunch of inappropriate orders for PT to have to make sure they are safe with walking first and ultimately I don't want to give away our profession to others that claim to be doing therapy when in fact they are just mobilizing the patient. I would love to hear how other hospitals tackle mobility of all of their patients. Thanks in advance. alice Alice M. Peay PT, DPT, MS Manager Inpatient Physical Therapy Services P.O. Box 980419 MCV Station Richmond, VA 23298 apeay@... To: " PTManager " <PTManager > Date: 10/05/2011 09:50 AM Subject: Mobility Technician for Acute Care Sent by: PTManager I am interested to learn whether other hospital systems have implemented the use of mobility technicians to increase the amount of supervised ambulation available during a hospital stay? My organization intends on adding this position for those patients that don't require skilled PT for gait training but would benefit from being ambulated more frequently than the nursing unit is able to provide. Also, is anyone willing to share their hospital's job description for mobility technician? Thanks, Matt Wutke PT, MHCA Outpatient Physical Medicine and Rehab Manager Providence Hospital and Providence Park Hospital matt.wutke@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 I am so jealous. I hope you keep us posted on how this works out. We would never get this through our finance department. Illogical I know but true. Katesel strimbeck PT, MS PT Supervisor St. 's Hospital Albany, New York katesels@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 I am so jealous. I hope you keep us posted on how this works out. We would never get this through our finance department. Illogical I know but true. Katesel strimbeck PT, MS PT Supervisor St. 's Hospital Albany, New York katesels@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 We started a restorative tech position a few years ago. The therapists refer the patient to the Restorative tech when the patient needs more ambulation, but nursing staff isn't able to do it. Also, if the patient is at their PLOF - SBA or minimal assist, and needs someone to 'maintain' walking. The PT or OT will tell the restorative tech the dx, precautions, what to do etc. The RT follows the plan and writes a note in the chart. Our restorative techs also do other things besides walking. They help check splints after the PT or OT determines the fit is good, and there is little concern for skin breakdown, they help apply CPM's, etc. This helps the nursing staff by taking a load off of them, but the RT also educates the nurses about the devices. The RT's can do basic exercises with the patient. All of their treatment is referred to them by the therapists. They do not charge for their service. This program has been very helpful to our department, as we miss less PT and OT patients now. Robyn Holland, PT, GCS Therapy Manager, Acute Care Therapy-South Health Robyn.Holland@... Phone: __________ Health - a Top 100 Integrated Health Care Network COXHEALTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Please define PLOF. None of our staff are familiar with that abbreviation. Carol Rehder, PT Manager, Physical Therapy Genesis Medical Center rehder@genesis@... >>> " Robyn Holland, PT, GCS " 10/7/2011 8:13 AM >>> We started a restorative tech position a few years ago. The therapists refer the patient to the Restorative tech when the patient needs more ambulation, but nursing staff isn't able to do it. Also, if the patient is at their PLOF - SBA or minimal assist, and needs someone to 'maintain' walking. The PT or OT will tell the restorative tech the dx, precautions, what to do etc. The RT follows the plan and writes a note in the chart. Our restorative techs also do other things besides walking. They help check splints after the PT or OT determines the fit is good, and there is little concern for skin breakdown, they help apply CPM's, etc. This helps the nursing staff by taking a load off of them, but the RT also educates the nurses about the devices. The RT's can do basic exercises with the patient. All of their treatment is referred to them by the therapists. They do not charge for their service. This program has been very helpful to our department, as we miss less PT and OT patients now. Robyn Holland, PT, GCS Therapy Manager, Acute Care Therapy-South Health Robyn.Holland@... Phone: __________ Health - a Top 100 Integrated Health Care Network COXHEALTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Prior level of function, I am assuming. From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of Carol Rehder Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 10:06 AM To: PTManager Subject: Re: Mobility Technician for Acute Care Please define PLOF. None of our staff are familiar with that abbreviation. Carol Rehder, PT Manager, Physical Therapy Genesis Medical Center rehder@genesis@...<mailto:genesis%40genesishealth.com> >>> " Robyn Holland, PT, GCS " <robyn.holland@...<mailto:robyn.holland%40coxhealth.com>> 10/7/2011 8:13 AM >>> We started a restorative tech position a few years ago. The therapists refer the patient to the Restorative tech when the patient needs more ambulation, but nursing staff isn't able to do it. Also, if the patient is at their PLOF - SBA or minimal assist, and needs someone to 'maintain' walking. The PT or OT will tell the restorative tech the dx, precautions, what to do etc. The RT follows the plan and writes a note in the chart. Our restorative techs also do other things besides walking. They help check splints after the PT or OT determines the fit is good, and there is little concern for skin breakdown, they help apply CPM's, etc. This helps the nursing staff by taking a load off of them, but the RT also educates the nurses about the devices. The RT's can do basic exercises with the patient. All of their treatment is referred to them by the therapists. They do not charge for their service. This program has been very helpful to our department, as we miss less PT and OT patients now. Robyn Holland, PT, GCS Therapy Manager, Acute Care Therapy-South Health Robyn.Holland@...<mailto:Robyn.Holland%40coxhealth.com> Phone: __________ Health - a Top 100 Integrated Health Care Network COXHEALTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 " PLOF " stands for " prior level of function. " While not an " approved abbreviation " at our facility, we do use it in conversation! Kerry Kerry R. Wood, PT, DPT Therapy Manager FAHC IP Rehab Therapies Colchester, VT 05446 Fax: www.fletcherallen.org Life is Precious.....LIVE IT!! Re: Mobility Technician for Acute Care Please define PLOF. None of our staff are familiar with that abbreviation. Carol Rehder, PT Manager, Physical Therapy Genesis Medical Center rehder@genesis@... >>> " Robyn Holland, PT, GCS " 10/7/2011 >>> 8:13 AM >>> We started a restorative tech position a few years ago. The therapists refer the patient to the Restorative tech when the patient needs more ambulation, but nursing staff isn't able to do it. Also, if the patient is at their PLOF - SBA or minimal assist, and needs someone to 'maintain' walking. The PT or OT will tell the restorative tech the dx, precautions, what to do etc. The RT follows the plan and writes a note in the chart. Our restorative techs also do other things besides walking. They help check splints after the PT or OT determines the fit is good, and there is little concern for skin breakdown, they help apply CPM's, etc. This helps the nursing staff by taking a load off of them, but the RT also educates the nurses about the devices. The RT's can do basic exercises with the patient. All of their treatment is referred to them by the therapists. They do not charge for their service. This program has been very helpful to our department, as we miss less PT and OT patients now. Robyn Holland, PT, GCS Therapy Manager, Acute Care Therapy-South Health Robyn.Holland@... Phone: __________ Health - a Top 100 Integrated Health Care Network COXHEALTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Whose budget covers these people? Also -- the term " restorative tech " is disturbing to me. Sounds too close to " rehab " . How does this fit with state laws even if there is no charge. Whose ox will be gored when there is some accident? Lawsuit? WHo holds the responsibility? Sounds like the PT is still holding the bag. Lucy Buckley PT Re: Mobility Technician for Acute Care We started a restorative tech position a few years ago. The therapists refer the patient to the Restorative tech when the patient needs more ambulation, but nursing staff isn't able to do it. Also, if the patient is at their PLOF - SBA or minimal assist, and needs someone to 'maintain' walking. The PT or OT will tell the restorative tech the dx, precautions, what to do etc. The RT follows the plan and writes a note in the chart. Our restorative techs also do other things besides walking. They help check splints after the PT or OT determines the fit is good, and there is little concern for skin breakdown, they help apply CPM's, etc. This helps the nursing staff by taking a load off of them, but the RT also educates the nurses about the devices. The RT's can do basic exercises with the patient. All of their treatment is referred to them by the therapists. They do not charge for their service. This program has been very helpful to our department, as we miss less PT and OT patients now. Robyn Holland, PT, GCS Therapy Manager, Acute Care Therapy-South Health Robyn.Holland@... Phone: __________ Health - a Top 100 Integrated Health Care Network COXHEALTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 It would be best to have the restorative aide be part of the nursing department. Basically the therapist would identify the need for the patient to have maintenance type care and not in need of skilled services. Then d/c the patient with recommendations for the patient to be ambulated 2x/day or whatever the needs are. The R.A. would just follow this recommendation under the supervision of a nurse. [ Usually most of the maintenance activities fall within the " standards of care " for nursing - they are just too busy to perform them]. And usually the R.A. is a CNA, this way they can check vitals if needed or assist with ADLs as part of the activity. Joe Trpcic Rehab Services Supervisor Beaufort Memorial Hospital From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of Lucy Buckley Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 11:53 AM To: PTManager Subject: Re: Re: Mobility Technician for Acute Care Whose budget covers these people? Also -- the term " restorative tech " is disturbing to me. Sounds too close to " rehab " . How does this fit with state laws even if there is no charge. Whose ox will be gored when there is some accident? Lawsuit? WHo holds the responsibility? Sounds like the PT is still holding the bag. Lucy Buckley PT Re: Mobility Technician for Acute Care We started a restorative tech position a few years ago. The therapists refer the patient to the Restorative tech when the patient needs more ambulation, but nursing staff isn't able to do it. Also, if the patient is at their PLOF - SBA or minimal assist, and needs someone to 'maintain' walking. The PT or OT will tell the restorative tech the dx, precautions, what to do etc. The RT follows the plan and writes a note in the chart. Our restorative techs also do other things besides walking. They help check splints after the PT or OT determines the fit is good, and there is little concern for skin breakdown, they help apply CPM's, etc. This helps the nursing staff by taking a load off of them, but the RT also educates the nurses about the devices. The RT's can do basic exercises with the patient. All of their treatment is referred to them by the therapists. They do not charge for their service. This program has been very helpful to our department, as we miss less PT and OT patients now. Robyn Holland, PT, GCS Therapy Manager, Acute Care Therapy-South Health Robyn.Holland@... <mailto:Robyn.Holland%40coxhealth.com> Phone: __________ Health - a Top 100 Integrated Health Care Network COXHEALTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 Joe, your reasoning for the restorative aide position to report to nursing is logical and makes perfect sense. At the hospital that I work in we have chosen however to keep our " ambulation assistants " under Rehab control (both from a budget and overall work responsibility perspective). Our fear with giving this position up to Nursing is that they do not appear to have the same passion and understanding of how important general mobility is for the acute inpatient. With that being said we are pretty sure that the first time a given nursing unit was short on support staff they would subordinate the mobility responsibilities to more of a nursing aide position and forsake the mobility for other tasks. Hope your day goes well! ________________________________ From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of ph Trpcic Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 16:26 To: PTManager Subject: RE: Re: Mobility Technician for Acute Care It would be best to have the restorative aide be part of the nursing department. Basically the therapist would identify the need for the patient to have maintenance type care and not in need of skilled services. Then d/c the patient with recommendations for the patient to be ambulated 2x/day or whatever the needs are. The R.A. would just follow this recommendation under the supervision of a nurse. [ Usually most of the maintenance activities fall within the " standards of care " for nursing - they are just too busy to perform them]. And usually the R.A. is a CNA, this way they can check vitals if needed or assist with ADLs as part of the activity. Joe Trpcic Rehab Services Supervisor Beaufort Memorial Hospital From: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Lucy Buckley Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 11:53 AM To: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Re: Mobility Technician for Acute Care Whose budget covers these people? Also -- the term " restorative tech " is disturbing to me. Sounds too close to " rehab " . How does this fit with state laws even if there is no charge. Whose ox will be gored when there is some accident? Lawsuit? WHo holds the responsibility? Sounds like the PT is still holding the bag. Lucy Buckley PT Re: Mobility Technician for Acute Care We started a restorative tech position a few years ago. The therapists refer the patient to the Restorative tech when the patient needs more ambulation, but nursing staff isn't able to do it. Also, if the patient is at their PLOF - SBA or minimal assist, and needs someone to 'maintain' walking. The PT or OT will tell the restorative tech the dx, precautions, what to do etc. The RT follows the plan and writes a note in the chart. Our restorative techs also do other things besides walking. They help check splints after the PT or OT determines the fit is good, and there is little concern for skin breakdown, they help apply CPM's, etc. This helps the nursing staff by taking a load off of them, but the RT also educates the nurses about the devices. The RT's can do basic exercises with the patient. All of their treatment is referred to them by the therapists. They do not charge for their service. This program has been very helpful to our department, as we miss less PT and OT patients now. Robyn Holland, PT, GCS Therapy Manager, Acute Care Therapy-South Health Robyn.Holland@...<mailto:Robyn.Holland%40coxhealth.com> <mailto:Robyn.Holland%40coxhealth.com> Phone: __________ Health - a Top 100 Integrated Health Care Network COXHEALTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 Joe, your reasoning for the restorative aide position to report to nursing is logical and makes perfect sense. At the hospital that I work in we have chosen however to keep our " ambulation assistants " under Rehab control (both from a budget and overall work responsibility perspective). Our fear with giving this position up to Nursing is that they do not appear to have the same passion and understanding of how important general mobility is for the acute inpatient. With that being said we are pretty sure that the first time a given nursing unit was short on support staff they would subordinate the mobility responsibilities to more of a nursing aide position and forsake the mobility for other tasks. Hope your day goes well! ________________________________ From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of ph Trpcic Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 16:26 To: PTManager Subject: RE: Re: Mobility Technician for Acute Care It would be best to have the restorative aide be part of the nursing department. Basically the therapist would identify the need for the patient to have maintenance type care and not in need of skilled services. Then d/c the patient with recommendations for the patient to be ambulated 2x/day or whatever the needs are. The R.A. would just follow this recommendation under the supervision of a nurse. [ Usually most of the maintenance activities fall within the " standards of care " for nursing - they are just too busy to perform them]. And usually the R.A. is a CNA, this way they can check vitals if needed or assist with ADLs as part of the activity. Joe Trpcic Rehab Services Supervisor Beaufort Memorial Hospital From: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Lucy Buckley Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 11:53 AM To: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Re: Mobility Technician for Acute Care Whose budget covers these people? Also -- the term " restorative tech " is disturbing to me. Sounds too close to " rehab " . How does this fit with state laws even if there is no charge. Whose ox will be gored when there is some accident? Lawsuit? WHo holds the responsibility? Sounds like the PT is still holding the bag. Lucy Buckley PT Re: Mobility Technician for Acute Care We started a restorative tech position a few years ago. The therapists refer the patient to the Restorative tech when the patient needs more ambulation, but nursing staff isn't able to do it. Also, if the patient is at their PLOF - SBA or minimal assist, and needs someone to 'maintain' walking. The PT or OT will tell the restorative tech the dx, precautions, what to do etc. The RT follows the plan and writes a note in the chart. Our restorative techs also do other things besides walking. They help check splints after the PT or OT determines the fit is good, and there is little concern for skin breakdown, they help apply CPM's, etc. This helps the nursing staff by taking a load off of them, but the RT also educates the nurses about the devices. The RT's can do basic exercises with the patient. All of their treatment is referred to them by the therapists. They do not charge for their service. This program has been very helpful to our department, as we miss less PT and OT patients now. Robyn Holland, PT, GCS Therapy Manager, Acute Care Therapy-South Health Robyn.Holland@...<mailto:Robyn.Holland%40coxhealth.com> <mailto:Robyn.Holland%40coxhealth.com> Phone: __________ Health - a Top 100 Integrated Health Care Network COXHEALTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 I am wondering who trains the acute care restorative aides, nursing,and/or PT . Just today I was working with a PT patient in outpatient PT. He was in a motorcyce accident in the beginning of June 2011. He nearly lost his leg in the accident with an open tibial plateau fracture, and he has since had 7 surgeries to restore function to his leg. He will not be allowed weight bearing until sometime in December 2011. While he was in the hospital back in June/July and beginning to learn how to use a walker on the floor, a " young girl of about 18 " was assigned to walk him in the hallway. He was very wobbly, using the walker and only one leg, so she suggested that he put his impaired leg down so that he wouldn't lose his balance. Luckily he had listened to someone; his doctor or his therapist, who had informed him he should not put any weight on his leg so he didn't. (He is in his 40's so he is pretty coherent, but what if he did put his weight on it and caused his fractured tiba more damage.) Who is then responsible, nursing, PT or the patient? He does not know what her title was. I have worked with restorative aides after they have been dischaged to a SNF and they are stable, it works very well. Not so sure of Acute care, would rather that PT trains them. Kathy Hammer PT Hammer Rehab Re: Re: Mobility Technician for Acute Care Whose budget covers these people? Also -- the term " restorative tech " is disturbing to me. Sounds too close to " rehab " . How does this fit with state laws even if there is no charge. Whose ox will be gored when there is some accident? Lawsuit? WHo holds the responsibility? Sounds like the PT is still holding the bag. Lucy Buckley PT Re: Mobility Technician for Acute Care We started a restorative tech position a few years ago. The therapists refer the patient to the Restorative tech when the patient needs more ambulation, but nursing staff isn't able to do it. Also, if the patient is at their PLOF - SBA or minimal assist, and needs someone to 'maintain' walking. The PT or OT will tell the restorative tech the dx, precautions, what to do etc. The RT follows the plan and writes a note in the chart. Our restorative techs also do other things besides walking. They help check splints after the PT or OT determines the fit is good, and there is little concern for skin breakdown, they help apply CPM's, etc. This helps the nursing staff by taking a load off of them, but the RT also educates the nurses about the devices. The RT's can do basic exercises with the patient. All of their treatment is referred to them by the therapists. They do not charge for their service. This program has been very helpful to our department, as we miss less PT and OT patients now. Robyn Holland, PT, GCS Therapy Manager, Acute Care Therapy-South Health Robyn.Holland@... <mailto:Robyn.Holland%40coxhealth.com>; Phone: __________ Health - a Top 100 Integrated Health Care Network COXHEALTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Our PT/OT department trains the restorative techs. We chose to do this as we have the most experience ambulating and exercising patients. I know ambulation is a nursing intervention, but not all nurses fully understand weight bearing precautions and need to use certain devices. Also, the nursing staff often gets pulled to do PCA work when they are short staffed. Thus, the patients that they don't have time to work with, won't get seen. Our RT's also do more specialized things such as assisting the nursing staff with things they don't typically do on their units - set up CPM's in ICU's. Our ortho floor is great with that, and needs no help, but when the patient is in ICU, things are a little different. The first RT's we hired were PCA's. We didn't think they would need much training, as they were already used to walking patients, etc. BUT, there was a lot they didn't understand about weight bearing status, why to use a certain device, how to use a walker, etc. Ultimately, the PT's and OT's were going to refer to the Restorative Tech. We needed oversight. Robyn Holland, PT, GCS Therapy Manager, Acute Care Therapy-South Health Robyn.Holland@... Phone: __________ Health - a Top 100 Integrated Health Care Network COXHEALTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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