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Todd and Tim,

I disagree with Tim's interpretation and will unfortunately add to the

confusion. Hopefully ongoing discussion will clarify.

Transmittal 88 page 37 language for treatment note documentation reads:

>

" Total timed code treatment minutes and total treatment time in minutes.

Total treatment time includes the minutes for timed code treatment and

untimed code treatment. Total treatment time does not include time for

services that are not billable (e.g., rest periods). For Medicare

purposes, it is not required that unbilled services that are not part of

the total treatment minutes be recorded, although they may be included

voluntarily to provide an accurate description of the treatment, show

consistency with the plan, or comply with state or local policies. The

amount of time for each specific intervention/modality provided to the

patient may also be recorded voluntarily, but contractors shall not

require it, as it is indicated in the billing. The billing and the total

timed code treatment minutes must be consistent. See Pub. 100-04, chapter

5, section 20.2 for description of billing timed codes; and "

How do we do it?

A. Treatment time: We document a total treatment time e.g.:

Total treatment time = 65 minutes

We do not include rest periods or bathroom breaks (nonbillable time).

Think about it. If you just record time in and time out and the client

takes a 10 minute bathroom break, then you are not recording actual

treatment time.

We do include allowed things like set up time for modalities and education

time which are folded into proper codes.

B. Timed codes: we document a total time code time e.g.:

Total timed code = 54 minutes

Although it is voluntary by the Transmittal 88 language, we have chosen to

document the number of minutes for each treatment that we do. It helps us

audit charts and it helps in adding up timed codes for billing. We do not

carry stopwatches by the way!

So in the examples above a sample Medicare treatment note (where no group

therapy is being done)would read: Please note also this is a generic

example done for clarity...

12/3/08

Subjective:

Objective: Total treament time = 65 minutes Total timed treatment = 54

minutes

(I will abbreviate the next bit for example):

Manual therapy (22 minutes)

Therapeutic exercise (20 mins)

Neuromuscular re-ed (12 mins)

Cold pack plus interferential electrical stim (11 mins)

Assessment:

Plan:

In this example the total timed codes add up to 54 and the total treatment

time to 65. Billing would be total 4 units of timed codes (per 8 minute

rule) and 1 unit untimed modality. Any audit of the chart would find it

easy to match the billing with the documentation. Then with a schedule of

patients and charts for a given treatment day, the auditer can determine

if the group therapy code was being used correctly or not.

This is how we have interpreted Transmittal 88 language.

I have also seen flow sheets with a row or column for total time code time

in minutes and total treatment time. Reminder though that recording the

time of each separate treatment (ie manual therapy 22 mins, Ther ex 15

mins) is voluntary per Transmittal 88. Unfortunately other than our old

system, I am not sure how other electronic documentation systems do it.

Tom Howell, P.T., M.P.T.

Howell Physical Therapy

Eagle, ID

thowell@...

Todd,

>

> As you probably already know...

>

> " The purpose of these notes is simply to create a record of all

treatments and skilled interventions that are provided and to record the

time of the services in order to justify the use of billing codes on the

claim. " (page 36)

>

> Also, I have been told by Medicare consultants that time-in/time-out is

not sufficient.

>

> We do the following:

> time-in/time-out

> time for one-on-one procedures

> time for supervised modalities (eg: traction).

>

> For example:

>

> time-in: 8am

> time-out: 9am = 4 units

>

> 8am to 8:30 therapeutic ex (one-on-one)

> 15 minutes traction

> 15 minutes e-stim = 4 units

>

> That way the total and the time-in/time-out minutes are consistent.

>

> You want to make it easy for the Medicare auditor to decide that you

are not 'low hanging fruit'.

>

> I've found that well-designed chart templates and staff training are

crucial to ensure that your therapists consistently apply these

policies.

>

> Once they get into the habit of jotting down the time it's not too

difficult.

>

> Get a copy of my chart template at

> http://www.bulletproofpt.com/compliance-plan.htm

>

> Also, the reference for Transmittal 88 (page 36) is at

> http://www.cms.hhs.gov/transmittals/downloads/r88bp.pdf

>

>

> Tim

>

>

> Tim , PT

> www.BulletproofPT.com

> TimRichPT@...

>

>

>

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>> Group, I am looking for non-grey interpretation of the

> timed/unitmed/total minutes rule in transmittal 88. We are doing an

internal audit and the auditor feels that start/stop times are most

appropriate and reads start/stop times into the transmittal. I feel that

transmittal 88 says the total time, timed minutes are all that is

required. Untimed minutes are voluntary (we do include). Is there

something that supplants this transmittal that says start/stop times are

" best practice " ? Of course, charged units must match your recorded

minutes by following the 8 min rule.

>>

>> Thanks.

>>

>> Todd Mourning, PT

>> Manager of Therapy Services

>> Abraham Lincoln Memorial Hospital

>> 315 8th Street

>> Lincoln, IL 62656

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