Guest guest Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 You need to get a copy of the SNf's contract with the current contract tx provider and study it. Be sure you understand the non-compete clauses re: current rehab staff; you may not be able to hire them/ask them to stay. The SNF owner/ CEO may have in his files an old contract therapy company's contract that you could look at. Remember that it is old and that things have changed a lot since PPS was implemented. It would give you some idea though of what a contract includes. Have a JD go over or even prepare the contract if you decide to do this. The American Health Care Lawyers group is great. (Donna Thiel, JD, in DC is excellent if you want a name; I haven't talked to her in over 6 yrs. though. ) Be sure what the SNF pays you per month includes pay for rehab's non-direct therapy activites and that it is more than your costs plus a reasonable profit margin. I know I am stating the obvious but it is astounding how easy it is to forget something really important that can cost you a lot because it wasn't addressed up front. (Ex. If you get a denial, be sure that $$ amount isn't deducted from the amount the SNF pays you monthly.) Have a clause in there that the SNF provides the equipment & rehab supplies unless you are wealthy and have a garage full of tx equipment & supplies. Don't forget office supplies, caseload/schedule boards, etc., even paper clips. Revisit your malpractice/liability insurance and make changes needed to cover your employees or decide about having independent contractors vs employees of yours. Is this SNF a single bldg. or is it part of a group of SNFs? If the owners have more, can you have those rehab contracts if you want them later? Can you refuse one if you can't staff it and it is 250 miles (or etc. )from anywhere else? Have the contract address the SNF's responsibility to pay for transport to and Modified Barium Swallow studies at the hospital for those speech pts. the SLP may need this diagnostic info on before initiating dysphagia tx. If you will be the rehab director, put in there that they will pay your professional dues, send you to your state and national conventions and any needed CEU activity to renew licensure. You can ask for a rehab dep't. budget ahead of time. This list is certainly not inclusive, and I am not a JD and this is not legal advice. You will want to hire a consultant to help you do this and a JD to finalize the proposed contract between you & the SNF. You may be advised to incorporate or etc. Beckley of Bloomingdale Consulting Group, Inc, in Tampa is really excellent. I have worked with her before. You MUST know your cost per minute to do business. You may also want to have a person certified in healthcare compliance (CCP, CCE, CHC) look at your contract before you sign it in addition to a JD. Make haste slowly; avoid what could be very costly mistakes. Another option that you could suggest if you think this is too much to take on now is to ask the owners to tell the current contract tx company that they have now ( or a new one if they aren't happy with the current tx company) that the owners want you to be the rehab director in their building(s) and that the tx company should hire you. Make sure that when the current company is given notice (usually 60 days) that during those 60 days they should continue to provide appropriate tx services to the pts. and be sure they don't discharge all of the pts. from therapies before they leave/stop providing care. Suggest the owner take an inventory of the current therapy dep't equipment and supplies now and be sure that keys and computer passwords etc. are all turned in by the exiting company. Be professional; do not burn bridges. This is a small industry and you will find yourself working with some of the current staff somewhere else in future years. APTA, AOTA & ASHA all have sections/special interest divisions for Administration & CLinical Supervision/Private Practice that can give you some guidance. Go to those websites. ASHA has a handbook on understanding the Medicare and other 3rd party reimbursement rules and regs. Be sure you know who the Fiscal Intermediary is for the SNF (Who does the billing office send the SNF bills to?) See if they have a LCD for rehab (local coverage determination). Study it and follow it to the letter. Ask if the SNF is under 100% medical review or if they are targeted for RAC audit, etc. Are there any major problems now?Are there many rehab denials? Are those denials all appealed? Copying charts to appeal denials takes time and a lot of paper. Will you be able to use the Facility copier? Will they pay for the toner and paper ? I used to buy toner every two months, for example, but used their paper and copier and fax. Make sure the contract addresses the long distance phone charges that may be necessary to obtain authorizations for continuuing tx from managed care insurers; and to talk with families when necessary. Be sure you have and study (again) the Medicare rules & regs and your FI's guidelines for Medicare Part A and Medicare Part B coverage and your state Medicaid rules. Find out what the SNF's last survey results were. Were there any deficiencies? Were any in rehab? You will have to fix those STAT if they still exist. I note that you are a PT. Rick Gawenda, Angie and the owner of this PT Manager website, are all excellent resources for you. Go to a seminar of theirs & /or pay them for their consulting time with you one on one. Good Luck! Sally -McNamara, MCS, CCC-SLP, CCP Senior Advisor The Compliance Resource Group, Inc. andria, Virginia In a message dated 12/31/2008 7:38:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, schucmann@... writes: Hi ..Anybody with knowledge and experience in doing SNF rehab contract. A SNF administrator and facility CEO is asking me if I want to get the rehabilitation contract because they are planing to terminate their current therapy provider. Somebody can PLEASE give some advise on how to start on getting/doing a SNF contract. I have 8 yrs DOR experiance in a SNF, had work with some therapy contract company but I am thinking twice about this venture .Thanks SHELDON,PT LOS ANGELES,CA **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 You need to get a copy of the SNf's contract with the current contract tx provider and study it. Be sure you understand the non-compete clauses re: current rehab staff; you may not be able to hire them/ask them to stay. The SNF owner/ CEO may have in his files an old contract therapy company's contract that you could look at. Remember that it is old and that things have changed a lot since PPS was implemented. It would give you some idea though of what a contract includes. Have a JD go over or even prepare the contract if you decide to do this. The American Health Care Lawyers group is great. (Donna Thiel, JD, in DC is excellent if you want a name; I haven't talked to her in over 6 yrs. though. ) Be sure what the SNF pays you per month includes pay for rehab's non-direct therapy activites and that it is more than your costs plus a reasonable profit margin. I know I am stating the obvious but it is astounding how easy it is to forget something really important that can cost you a lot because it wasn't addressed up front. (Ex. If you get a denial, be sure that $$ amount isn't deducted from the amount the SNF pays you monthly.) Have a clause in there that the SNF provides the equipment & rehab supplies unless you are wealthy and have a garage full of tx equipment & supplies. Don't forget office supplies, caseload/schedule boards, etc., even paper clips. Revisit your malpractice/liability insurance and make changes needed to cover your employees or decide about having independent contractors vs employees of yours. Is this SNF a single bldg. or is it part of a group of SNFs? If the owners have more, can you have those rehab contracts if you want them later? Can you refuse one if you can't staff it and it is 250 miles (or etc. )from anywhere else? Have the contract address the SNF's responsibility to pay for transport to and Modified Barium Swallow studies at the hospital for those speech pts. the SLP may need this diagnostic info on before initiating dysphagia tx. If you will be the rehab director, put in there that they will pay your professional dues, send you to your state and national conventions and any needed CEU activity to renew licensure. You can ask for a rehab dep't. budget ahead of time. This list is certainly not inclusive, and I am not a JD and this is not legal advice. You will want to hire a consultant to help you do this and a JD to finalize the proposed contract between you & the SNF. You may be advised to incorporate or etc. Beckley of Bloomingdale Consulting Group, Inc, in Tampa is really excellent. I have worked with her before. You MUST know your cost per minute to do business. You may also want to have a person certified in healthcare compliance (CCP, CCE, CHC) look at your contract before you sign it in addition to a JD. Make haste slowly; avoid what could be very costly mistakes. Another option that you could suggest if you think this is too much to take on now is to ask the owners to tell the current contract tx company that they have now ( or a new one if they aren't happy with the current tx company) that the owners want you to be the rehab director in their building(s) and that the tx company should hire you. Make sure that when the current company is given notice (usually 60 days) that during those 60 days they should continue to provide appropriate tx services to the pts. and be sure they don't discharge all of the pts. from therapies before they leave/stop providing care. Suggest the owner take an inventory of the current therapy dep't equipment and supplies now and be sure that keys and computer passwords etc. are all turned in by the exiting company. Be professional; do not burn bridges. This is a small industry and you will find yourself working with some of the current staff somewhere else in future years. APTA, AOTA & ASHA all have sections/special interest divisions for Administration & CLinical Supervision/Private Practice that can give you some guidance. Go to those websites. ASHA has a handbook on understanding the Medicare and other 3rd party reimbursement rules and regs. Be sure you know who the Fiscal Intermediary is for the SNF (Who does the billing office send the SNF bills to?) See if they have a LCD for rehab (local coverage determination). Study it and follow it to the letter. Ask if the SNF is under 100% medical review or if they are targeted for RAC audit, etc. Are there any major problems now?Are there many rehab denials? Are those denials all appealed? Copying charts to appeal denials takes time and a lot of paper. Will you be able to use the Facility copier? Will they pay for the toner and paper ? I used to buy toner every two months, for example, but used their paper and copier and fax. Make sure the contract addresses the long distance phone charges that may be necessary to obtain authorizations for continuuing tx from managed care insurers; and to talk with families when necessary. Be sure you have and study (again) the Medicare rules & regs and your FI's guidelines for Medicare Part A and Medicare Part B coverage and your state Medicaid rules. Find out what the SNF's last survey results were. Were there any deficiencies? Were any in rehab? You will have to fix those STAT if they still exist. I note that you are a PT. Rick Gawenda, Angie and the owner of this PT Manager website, are all excellent resources for you. Go to a seminar of theirs & /or pay them for their consulting time with you one on one. Good Luck! Sally -McNamara, MCS, CCC-SLP, CCP Senior Advisor The Compliance Resource Group, Inc. andria, Virginia In a message dated 12/31/2008 7:38:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, schucmann@... writes: Hi ..Anybody with knowledge and experience in doing SNF rehab contract. A SNF administrator and facility CEO is asking me if I want to get the rehabilitation contract because they are planing to terminate their current therapy provider. Somebody can PLEASE give some advise on how to start on getting/doing a SNF contract. I have 8 yrs DOR experiance in a SNF, had work with some therapy contract company but I am thinking twice about this venture .Thanks SHELDON,PT LOS ANGELES,CA **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Sheldon, Feel free to contact me off line. I'm a SNF Administrator that owns/operated a rehab company for the past ten years. My strength is I know both sides of the fence and can help you make a well informed decision. Regards, Mark Hudson From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of schucmann Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 12:20 AM To: PTManager Subject: SNF Contract Hi ..Anybody with knowledge and experience in doing SNF rehab contract. A SNF administrator and facility CEO is asking me if I want to get the rehabilitation contract because they are planing to terminate their current therapy provider. Somebody can PLEASE give some advise on how to start on getting/doing a SNF contract. I have 8 yrs DOR experiance in a SNF, had work with some therapy contract company but I am thinking twice about this venture .Thanks SHELDON,PT LOS ANGELES,CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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