Guest guest Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 Damon: While I respect Dick's thoughts on this, I don't agree with his conclusion. I agree that there shouldn't be any difference in billing per se between medicare and non-medicare, there is however huge differences in any rules that they may superimpose on your practice act. Unfortunately, there are many payors now following medicare rules and there are some payor contracts that default to the state practice act. They key item in my opinion is to refer to any particular contract language that you have relative to that specific payor. Many practices simply default everything to medicare's superimposed rules which from my perspective is very damaging to the whole notion of an autonomous practitioner and their scope of practice. I also agree with Dick on the use of the AMA guide. However, where we likely disagree is on non medicare patients (where the contracts either don't directly address the issue or they default to your practice act). Medicare is the most restrictive. It is very explicit as to who can treat their patients. While this is indeed unfortunate, it is reality so follow the rules on them and don't set yourself up for potential audit problems by grouping medicare and non-medicare patients or overlapping medicare patients which could end up having you do manual therapy and having to bill it as group! As to ATC's in that environment, they can't be used in any capacity involving patient care. This actually can be extended to really any federally funded patient. The issue within AMA CPT code guidelines that I believe has merit is in the definition of direct (or one on one). It is further defined as essentially meaning visual, auditory, or manual contact. While I agree that this is somewhat counter intuitive it is the very definition that physicians use for allowing them to provide direct care through their support personnel (nurses for example). I think it would be impossible for AMA to limit all codes for physicians to explicit rules like medicare relative to one to one because they would literally have to do every blood pressure check and HR. Assuming that your payor isn't explicit like medicare and your practice act allows you to use extenders (I am unfamiliar with your state's practice act), you can use extenders for one on one codes as long as you meet the definition within the CPT code guidelines. The larger issue really isn't the technicality or definitions but the judgement of the physical therapist and what should be directed and delegated. Of note, in environments in which PT's are given the greatest autonomy (e.g. military) and least restrictions relative to things like the medicare rules, they broadly direct and delegate to support personnel yet still produce per capita the most research and have the highest rate of board certification in the U.S. It is the very model that we should strive to become which is really in part the intention of Vision 2020. <https://physicaltherapist.awayfind.com/larry>Larry Benz PT, DPT PT Development LLC CONFIDENTIALITY: This message is " Off The Record " . A lot of fancy legal speak that none of us reads or understands is often contained here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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