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Oh dear Harry,

Is there not another drug your cardio guy can put you on? I hope you

reported this to him. You many to cut down on your insulin if this keeps

up.

crap shoot

Due to CHF congestive heart failure my cardiologist has placed me on a

medication Coreg, which causes false blood glucose readings, which makes it

difficult to manage my bs levels.

Last night I had a bs of 115 at bed time, so I took enough grams of carbs to

push it up to 140-150 before dosing my night time Lantus of 28 units. Before

I got on this medication a night time reading of 140 or there abouts would

give me a fasting bs level of 90-100.Sometime during the night I awoke with

a night shirt drenched in sweat. This told me I was having a low sugar

reaction. So I reached on my bedside table for two candies containing around

9 grams of carbs and ate them. Then I went back to sleep. Early in the

morning this morning my wife tried to awake me, but I could not be awakened.

So she took a bs reading, which I do not remember. She also had to stick my

finger twice to get an adequate blood sample for the test strip. I do not

remember this. She got a bs reading of 60, then she fed me two glucose

tablets. I do not remember this either. Fourty minutes later she did another

bs sample and got a reading of 77, which I do remember.

I am now involved in a crap shoot to figure out how to get a reasonable bs

reading and how to dose insulin.

I don't know if my next roll of the dice will be a 7, snake eyes or boxcars.

The crap shoot continues.

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Wow Harry,

This doesn't sound like fun. If anyone would be able to figure it out, it's you.

Here's thinking of you,

Brett.

crap shoot

Due to CHF congestive heart failure my cardiologist has placed me on a

medication Coreg, which causes false blood glucose readings, which makes it

difficult to manage my bs levels.

Last night I had a bs of 115 at bed time, so I took enough grams of carbs to

push it up to 140-150 before dosing my night time Lantus of 28 units. Before I

got on this medication a night time reading of 140 or there abouts would give me

a fasting bs level of 90-100.Sometime during the night I awoke with a night

shirt drenched in sweat. This told me I was having a low sugar reaction. So I

reached on my bedside table for two candies containing around 9 grams of carbs

and ate them. Then I went back to sleep. Early in the morning this morning my

wife tried to awake me, but I could not be awakened. So she took a bs reading,

which I do not remember. She also had to stick my finger twice to get an

adequate blood sample for the test strip. I do not remember this. She got a bs

reading of 60, then she fed me two glucose tablets. I do not remember this

either. Fourty minutes later she did another bs sample and got a reading of 77,

which I do remember.

I am now involved in a crap shoot to figure out how to get a reasonable bs

reading and how to dose insulin.

I don't know if my next roll of the dice will be a 7, snake eyes or boxcars.

The crap shoot continues.

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Damn!! I will be Praying for you brother.

crap shoot

Due to CHF congestive heart failure my cardiologist has placed me on a

medication Coreg, which causes false blood glucose readings, which makes it

difficult to manage my bs levels.

Last night I had a bs of 115 at bed time, so I took enough grams of carbs to

push it up to 140-150 before dosing my night time Lantus of 28 units. Before I

got on this medication a night time reading of 140 or there abouts would give me

a fasting bs level of 90-100.Sometime during the night I awoke with a night

shirt drenched in sweat. This told me I was having a low sugar reaction. So I

reached on my bedside table for two candies containing around 9 grams of carbs

and ate them. Then I went back to sleep. Early in the morning this morning my

wife tried to awake me, but I could not be awakened. So she took a bs reading,

which I do not remember. She also had to stick my finger twice to get an

adequate blood sample for the test strip. I do not remember this. She got a bs

reading of 60, then she fed me two glucose tablets. I do not remember this

either. Fourty minutes later she did another bs sample and got a reading of 77,

which I do remember.

I am now involved in a crap shoot to figure out how to get a reasonable bs

reading and how to dose insulin.

I don't know if my next roll of the dice will be a 7, snake eyes or boxcars.

The crap shoot continues.

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I guess it comes down to choosing between the lesser of 2 evils Harry. Perhaps

your body needs to go through a short transition period before accepting this

medication?

Maybe you need to set an alarm in the middle of the night to do a middle of the

night check. I've been checking my bg in the middle of the night for 20 years.

Dave

Writing and speaking for a Higher purpose. Visit my blog:

http://www.authordavidbond.blogspot.com/

crap shoot

Due to CHF congestive heart failure my cardiologist has placed me on a

medication Coreg, which causes false blood glucose readings, which makes it

difficult to manage my bs levels.

Last night I had a bs of 115 at bed time, so I took enough grams of carbs to

push it up to 140-150 before dosing my night time Lantus of 28 units. Before I

got on this medication a night time reading of 140 or there abouts would give me

a fasting bs level of 90-100.Sometime during the night I awoke with a night

shirt drenched in sweat. This told me I was having a low sugar reaction. So I

reached on my bedside table for two candies containing around 9 grams of carbs

and ate them. Then I went back to sleep. Early in the morning this morning my

wife tried to awake me, but I could not be awakened. So she took a bs reading,

which I do not remember. She also had to stick my finger twice to get an

adequate blood sample for the test strip. I do not remember this. She got a bs

reading of 60, then she fed me two glucose tablets. I do not remember this

either. Fourty minutes later she did another bs sample and got a reading of 77,

which I do remember.

I am now involved in a crap shoot to figure out how to get a reasonable bs

reading and how to dose insulin.

I don't know if my next roll of the dice will be a 7, snake eyes or boxcars.

The crap shoot continues.

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Good grief Harry. Seems like everything is a problem, just keep trying and

sending good thoughts. Joe and

crap shoot

Due to CHF congestive heart failure my cardiologist has placed me on a

medication Coreg, which causes false blood glucose readings, which makes it

difficult to manage my bs levels.

Last night I had a bs of 115 at bed time, so I took enough grams of carbs to

push it up to 140-150 before dosing my night time Lantus of 28 units. Before I

got on this medication a night time reading of 140 or there abouts would give me

a fasting bs level of 90-100.Sometime during the night I awoke with a night

shirt drenched in sweat. This told me I was having a low sugar reaction. So I

reached on my bedside table for two candies containing around 9 grams of carbs

and ate them. Then I went back to sleep. Early in the morning this morning my

wife tried to awake me, but I could not be awakened. So she took a bs reading,

which I do not remember. She also had to stick my finger twice to get an

adequate blood sample for the test strip. I do not remember this. She got a bs

reading of 60, then she fed me two glucose tablets. I do not remember this

either. Fourty minutes later she did another bs sample and got a reading of 77,

which I do remember.

I am now involved in a crap shoot to figure out how to get a reasonable bs

reading and how to dose insulin.

I don't know if my next roll of the dice will be a 7, snake eyes or boxcars.

The crap shoot continues.

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Hi Harry,

Glad to see you back. My suggestion to you is this: Cut the insulin. The

Correg works by dilating the blood vessels more and that being said, it is

easier to deliver the insulin to be utilized and so the hypoglycemia. It is

not false results. It will probably take a few weeks for your body to

stabilize with the Correg. I also think Dave's suggestion of a night b.g.

reading is a good idea too as well as eating a better snack if you don't cut

the insulin. Good luck my friend. Take care.

Ruth

From: blind-diabetics

[mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of Harry/ Bates

Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 9:48 PM

To: blind-diabetics

Subject: crap shoot

Due to CHF congestive heart failure my cardiologist has placed me on a

medication Coreg, which causes false blood glucose readings, which makes it

difficult to manage my bs levels.

Last night I had a bs of 115 at bed time, so I took enough grams of carbs to

push it up to 140-150 before dosing my night time Lantus of 28 units. Before

I got on this medication a night time reading of 140 or there abouts would

give me a fasting bs level of 90-100.Sometime during the night I awoke with

a night shirt drenched in sweat. This told me I was having a low sugar

reaction. So I reached on my bedside table for two candies containing around

9 grams of carbs and ate them. Then I went back to sleep. Early in the

morning this morning my wife tried to awake me, but I could not be awakened.

So she took a bs reading, which I do not remember. She also had to stick my

finger twice to get an adequate blood sample for the test strip. I do not

remember this. She got a bs reading of 60, then she fed me two glucose

tablets. I do not remember this either. Fourty minutes later she did another

bs sample and got a reading of 77, which I do remember.

I am now involved in a crap shoot to figure out how to get a reasonable bs

reading and how to dose insulin.

I don't know if my next roll of the dice will be a 7, snake eyes or boxcars.

The crap shoot continues.

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Hi Harry,

To add to my last message, contact your pharmacist and ask what the peak

times for the absorption of your Correg is. This might help to tell you

where and when to cut the insulin as it will indicate peak times when the

pill will work and use up your insulin more. Hope this helps.

Ruth

From: blind-diabetics

[mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of Harry/ Bates

Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 9:48 PM

To: blind-diabetics

Subject: crap shoot

Due to CHF congestive heart failure my cardiologist has placed me on a

medication Coreg, which causes false blood glucose readings, which makes it

difficult to manage my bs levels.

Last night I had a bs of 115 at bed time, so I took enough grams of carbs to

push it up to 140-150 before dosing my night time Lantus of 28 units. Before

I got on this medication a night time reading of 140 or there abouts would

give me a fasting bs level of 90-100.Sometime during the night I awoke with

a night shirt drenched in sweat. This told me I was having a low sugar

reaction. So I reached on my bedside table for two candies containing around

9 grams of carbs and ate them. Then I went back to sleep. Early in the

morning this morning my wife tried to awake me, but I could not be awakened.

So she took a bs reading, which I do not remember. She also had to stick my

finger twice to get an adequate blood sample for the test strip. I do not

remember this. She got a bs reading of 60, then she fed me two glucose

tablets. I do not remember this either. Fourty minutes later she did another

bs sample and got a reading of 77, which I do remember.

I am now involved in a crap shoot to figure out how to get a reasonable bs

reading and how to dose insulin.

I don't know if my next roll of the dice will be a 7, snake eyes or boxcars.

The crap shoot continues.

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Last night, Monday night, I had a bedtime bs of 115 once again. So I ate ten

grams of carbs, which in the past would make my bs rise 60-70 points. I do not

know how much it rose, since I refused to wake up my wife to do a bs test. I

usuually dose 28 units of Lantus at bedtime, but after my last dreadful low

sugar reaction to this dosage, I decided to dose only 10 units of Lantus. This

morning Tuesday morning, I awoke with a fasting bs of 76. I would ordinarily

dose around 12 units of Humalog for the 29 gram carb bar which I ate for

breakfast, but I decided to dose only 8 units. Two hours later I had a low

sugar reaction of 67. I then ate three four or five gram candies, ate five or

six dessert bowls of fresh fruit, drank 4 ounces of orange juice and three hours

later I had a bs of 111. Ordinarily, that much stuff would havemade me run

around a bs of 200 or so. I am finding that I have to reduce my insulin dosage

around 40-50%. I hope I figure out soon what to do.

The crap shoot continues. Will the next roll of the dice bring a 7, 11, snake

eyes or box cars?

We will soon see.

crap shoot

Due to CHF congestive heart failure my cardiologist has placed me on a

medication Coreg, which causes false blood glucose readings, which makes it

difficult to manage my bs levels.

Last night I had a bs of 115 at bed time, so I took enough grams of carbs to

push it up to 140-150 before dosing my night time Lantus of 28 units. Before I

got on this medication a night time reading of 140 or there abouts would give me

a fasting bs level of 90-100.Sometime during the night I awoke with a night

shirt drenched in sweat. This told me I was having a low sugar reaction. So I

reached on my bedside table for two candies containing around 9 grams of carbs

and ate them. Then I went back to sleep. Early in the morning this morning my

wife tried to awake me, but I could not be awakened. So she took a bs reading,

which I do not remember. She also had to stick my finger twice to get an

adequate blood sample for the test strip. I do not remember this. She got a bs

reading of 60, then she fed me two glucose tablets. I do not remember this

either. Fourty minutes later she did another bs sample and got a reading of 77,

which I do remember.

I am now involved in a crap shoot to figure out how to get a reasonable bs

reading and how to dose insulin.

I don't know if my next roll of the dice will be a 7, snake eyes or boxcars.

The crap shoot continues.

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Hi Harry,

According to the studies when you study for the educator exams, the formula

is 15 grams of carbs will raise you 2.1 or 37.8 b.g. points only. Don't be

afraid to run a little higher, say like 126 until things settle down and

then bring it down again. I know you like to keep very tight control, but

this may be what you need to do until things settle down. It is not unusual

to have to run a little higher level when there are other coexsisting

conditions for the diabetics.

Ruth

From: blind-diabetics

[mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of Harry/ Bates

Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 6:39 PM

To: blind-diabetics

Subject: Re: crap shoot

Last night, Monday night, I had a bedtime bs of 115 once again. So I ate ten

grams of carbs, which in the past would make my bs rise 60-70 points. I do

not know how much it rose, since I refused to wake up my wife to do a bs

test. I usuually dose 28 units of Lantus at bedtime, but after my last

dreadful low sugar reaction to this dosage, I decided to dose only 10 units

of Lantus. This morning Tuesday morning, I awoke with a fasting bs of 76. I

would ordinarily dose around 12 units of Humalog for the 29 gram carb bar

which I ate for breakfast, but I decided to dose only 8 units. Two hours

later I had a low sugar reaction of 67. I then ate three four or five gram

candies, ate five or six dessert bowls of fresh fruit, drank 4 ounces of

orange juice and three hours later I had a bs of 111. Ordinarily, that much

stuff would havemade me run around a bs of 200 or so. I am finding that I

have to reduce my insulin dosage around 40-50%. I hope I figure out soon

what to The crap shoot continues. Will the next roll of the dice bring a 7,

11, snake eyes or box cars?

We will soon see.

crap shoot

Due to CHF congestive heart failure my cardiologist has placed me on a

medication Coreg, which causes false blood glucose readings, which makes it

difficult to manage my bs levels.

Last night I had a bs of 115 at bed time, so I took enough grams of carbs to

push it up to 140-150 before dosing my night time Lantus of 28 units. Before

I got on this medication a night time reading of 140 or there abouts would

give me a fasting bs level of 90-100.Sometime during the night I awoke with

a night shirt drenched in sweat. This told me I was having a low sugar

reaction. So I reached on my bedside table for two candies containing around

9 grams of carbs and ate them. Then I went back to sleep. Early in the

morning this morning my wife tried to awake me, but I could not be awakened.

So she took a bs reading, which I do not remember. She also had to stick my

finger twice to get an adequate blood sample for the test strip. I do not

remember this. She got a bs reading of 60, then she fed me two glucose

tablets. I do not remember this either. Fourty minutes later she did another

bs sample and got a reading of 77, which I do remember.

I am now involved in a crap shoot to figure out how to get a reasonable bs

reading and how to dose insulin.

I don't know if my next roll of the dice will be a 7, snake eyes or boxcars.

The crap shoot continues.

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Harry,

Have you called your doc to tel him what is happening? It is smart to do

what you are doing, but I really thing you should call your endo.s

Re: crap shoot

Last night, Monday night, I had a bedtime bs of 115 once again. So I ate ten

grams of carbs, which in the past would make my bs rise 60-70 points. I do

not know how much it rose, since I refused to wake up my wife to do a bs

test. I usuually dose 28 units of Lantus at bedtime, but after my last

dreadful low sugar reaction to this dosage, I decided to dose only 10 units

of Lantus. This morning Tuesday morning, I awoke with a fasting bs of 76. I

would ordinarily dose around 12 units of Humalog for the 29 gram carb bar

which I ate for breakfast, but I decided to dose only 8 units. Two hours

later I had a low sugar reaction of 67. I then ate three four or five gram

candies, ate five or six dessert bowls of fresh fruit, drank 4 ounces of

orange juice and three hours later I had a bs of 111. Ordinarily, that much

stuff would havemade me run around a bs of 200 or so. I am finding that I

have to reduce my insulin dosage around 40-50%. I hope I figure out soon

what to do.

The crap shoot continues. Will the next roll of the dice bring a 7, 11,

snake eyes or box cars?

We will soon see.

crap shoot

Due to CHF congestive heart failure my cardiologist has placed me on a

medication Coreg, which causes false blood glucose readings, which makes it

difficult to manage my bs levels.

Last night I had a bs of 115 at bed time, so I took enough grams of carbs to

push it up to 140-150 before dosing my night time Lantus of 28 units. Before

I got on this medication a night time reading of 140 or there abouts would

give me a fasting bs level of 90-100.Sometime during the night I awoke with

a night shirt drenched in sweat. This told me I was having a low sugar

reaction. So I reached on my bedside table for two candies containing around

9 grams of carbs and ate them. Then I went back to sleep. Early in the

morning this morning my wife tried to awake me, but I could not be awakened.

So she took a bs reading, which I do not remember. She also had to stick my

finger twice to get an adequate blood sample for the test strip. I do not

remember this. She got a bs reading of 60, then she fed me two glucose

tablets. I do not remember this either. Fourty minutes later she did another

bs sample and got a reading of 77, which I do remember.

I am now involved in a crap shoot to figure out how to get a reasonable bs

reading and how to dose insulin.

I don't know if my next roll of the dice will be a 7, snake eyes or boxcars.

The crap shoot continues.

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Last night I had a bedtime bs level of 76, so I decided not to dose any insulin

at all, no Humalog and no Lantus So I ate a slice of bread containing around 15

grams of carbs. This morning my fasting bs level was 121. Do you reckon I am

now cured of diabetes?

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Last night I had a bedtime bs level of 76, so I decided not to dose any insulin

at all, no Humalog and no Lantus So I ate a slice of bread containing around 15

grams of carbs. This morning my fasting bs level was 121. Do you reckon I am

now cured of diabetes?

The crap shoot continues.

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No cured, but something has happened to make less insulin necessary. I

don't get why you don't call and tell your doc.

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Last night I had a bedtime bs level of 76, so I decided not to dose any

insulin at all, no Humalog and no Lantus So I ate a slice of bread

containing around 15 grams of carbs. This morning my fasting bs level was

121. Do you reckon I am now cured of diabetes?

The crap shoot continues.

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No cured, but something has happened to make less insulin necessary. I

don't get why you don't call and tell your doc.

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Last night I had a bedtime bs level of 76, so I decided not to dose any

insulin at all, no Humalog and no Lantus So I ate a slice of bread

containing around 15 grams of carbs. This morning my fasting bs level was

121. Do you reckon I am now cured of diabetes?

The crap shoot continues.

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You are officially diagnosed as a t2, correct? Isn't it possible for some t2's

to be " cured " through weight loss and proper diet?

Dave

Writing and speaking for a Higher purpose. Visit my blog:

http://www.authordavidbond.blogspot.com/

Re: crap shoot

Last night I had a bedtime bs level of 76, so I decided not to dose any

insulin at all, no Humalog and no Lantus So I ate a slice of bread containing

around 15 grams of carbs. This morning my fasting bs level was 121. Do you

reckon I am now cured of diabetes?

The crap shoot continues.

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You are officially diagnosed as a t2, correct? Isn't it possible for some t2's

to be " cured " through weight loss and proper diet?

Dave

Writing and speaking for a Higher purpose. Visit my blog:

http://www.authordavidbond.blogspot.com/

Re: crap shoot

Last night I had a bedtime bs level of 76, so I decided not to dose any

insulin at all, no Humalog and no Lantus So I ate a slice of bread containing

around 15 grams of carbs. This morning my fasting bs level was 121. Do you

reckon I am now cured of diabetes?

The crap shoot continues.

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Type 2s almost always still produce their own insulin, it's just that insulin

resistance gets in the way of controlling blood sugars. Sounds like you have

somehow become much more sensitive to insulin, enough that your body is able to

control blood sugars on its own.

Still, as others have said I would talk to your doctor about it, at the very

least about skipping insulin. Be sure to monitor yourself closely if you decide

to skip insulin, as that could get dangerous fast.

Jen

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Type 2s almost always still produce their own insulin, it's just that insulin

resistance gets in the way of controlling blood sugars. Sounds like you have

somehow become much more sensitive to insulin, enough that your body is able to

control blood sugars on its own.

Still, as others have said I would talk to your doctor about it, at the very

least about skipping insulin. Be sure to monitor yourself closely if you decide

to skip insulin, as that could get dangerous fast.

Jen

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Yes, I am officially diagnosed as a type 2 diabetic. I have heard of such

cures, but I know of none.

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Last night I had a bedtime bs level of 76, so I decided not to dose any

insulin at all, no Humalog and no Lantus So I ate a slice of bread containing

around 15 grams of carbs. This morning my fasting bs level was 121. Do you

reckon I am now cured of diabetes?

The crap shoot continues.

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Yes, I am officially diagnosed as a type 2 diabetic. I have heard of such

cures, but I know of none.

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Last night I had a bedtime bs level of 76, so I decided not to dose any

insulin at all, no Humalog and no Lantus So I ate a slice of bread containing

around 15 grams of carbs. This morning my fasting bs level was 121. Do you

reckon I am now cured of diabetes?

The crap shoot continues.

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Sounds like things are starting to smooth out, Harry.

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Last night I had a bedtime reading of 127. So I dosed 7 units of Lantus and

ate 10 grams of carbs and went to bed. This morning I had a fasting bs level

of 123.

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Sounds like things are starting to smooth out, Harry.

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Last night I had a bedtime reading of 127. So I dosed 7 units of Lantus and

ate 10 grams of carbs and went to bed. This morning I had a fasting bs level

of 123.

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Before I started taking this heart medicine Coreg 15 grams of carbs with no

Humalog would raise my blood glucose level approximately 100 points. In my

experiments on myself I long ago determined that one gram of carb would raise my

bs points approximately 7.5 points. That is a big difference to what the

examination calls for. 15 grams of carbs and 100 bs points as compared to 38 bs

points. I would have flunked that exam for sure.

crap shoot

Due to CHF congestive heart failure my cardiologist has placed me on a

medication Coreg, which causes false blood glucose readings, which makes it

difficult to manage my bs levels.

Last night I had a bs of 115 at bed time, so I took enough grams of carbs to

push it up to 140-150 before dosing my night time Lantus of 28 units. Before

I got on this medication a night time reading of 140 or there abouts would

give me a fasting bs level of 90-100.Sometime during the night I awoke with

a night shirt drenched in sweat. This told me I was having a low sugar

reaction. So I reached on my bedside table for two candies containing around

9 grams of carbs and ate them. Then I went back to sleep. Early in the

morning this morning my wife tried to awake me, but I could not be awakened.

So she took a bs reading, which I do not remember. She also had to stick my

finger twice to get an adequate blood sample for the test strip. I do not

remember this. She got a bs reading of 60, then she fed me two glucose

tablets. I do not remember this either. Fourty minutes later she did another

bs sample and got a reading of 77, which I do remember.

I am now involved in a crap shoot to figure out how to get a reasonable bs

reading and how to dose insulin.

I don't know if my next roll of the dice will be a 7, snake eyes or boxcars.

The crap shoot continues.

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