Re: Re: HIGH CLOSTRIDIA ISSUE

December 16, 2009

yes but not typically recomended, back in the days where there was a DAN protical chelation and viruses were the last to be addressed. many of the DANs have been trained this way (remember this is an ARI site reporting) there are very few I would dare say that go right to chelation before diet, suppliments, prep for the body, dealing with or testing for yeast, bacteria and viral....so you are saying you do NO diet or suppliments PRIOR to chelating?

Re: HIGH CLOSTRIDIA ISSUE

In my experience, a lot of the DAN! treatments lead to leaky gut rather than away from it (heavy metal challenge tests, GFCF diet recommendation without avoidance of packaged foods/soy, multivitamins with sweetners/flavors they recommend - Kirkman labs especially, probiotics and yeast treatment supplements that many kids are intolerant of)...Sorry, but it's the truth. Completely agree with . If you think foods are affecting your child, just take out all gluten, casein, and soy, cook food at home with whole food ingredients if possible, and you can mess with all the other stuff while you chelate. Chelation is the #1 rated ARI treatment and gives results, there is no reason to wait. NOTHING else is going to fix the deranged mineral transport that causes all the other problems.> >> > My son's O.A.Ts test came back with high levels of DHHP, and was diagnosed with Clostridia. His D.A.N doctor prescribed antibiotics: Vancomycin & Metrodizonal (Flagyl). > > > > His bowel movements have always been very normal but I fear that if I give him these antibiotics his bowels and mild personality might change for the worst once I take him off of the antibiotics. > > > > He turned two last week, has been on a GF/CF diet for 4 months, takes DMA, Multi.Vitamin, Zinc, D3, Folic, B6, Cod liver, Probiotics, vitamin E. He has speech delays and has repeated 35 words but not associated any one of them and his eye contact could be better. Hasn't been formally diagnosed although I know he has some form of a mild PDD.> > > > CAN SOMEONE PLEASE ADVISE? I am so terrified of giving my son antibiotics in fear that it will kill his friendly bacteria and of-set his gut and I that I might loose him permanently to the unknown realm.> > > > I asked his D.A.N Doctor if we could do Valtrex with Naizoral & Difflucan and they said since he didn't show any viral issues in his tests and because he's two they could not prescribed Valtrex and that Difflucan & Nizoral were stronger and had worst side affects. Mind you he's had two viral dual ear infections in his two years. They said that Nystatin would be the alternate medication they would prescribe instead of the antibiotics.> > > > Also, after the antibiotic treatment they would put him on a Gluthadion cream and Enhansa (cumin) to detox him. Is this a form of chelation? and how safe is it? I plan to give him HBOT treatment and hopefully B12 nasal spray in the New Year. I'm so confused, I haven't started the antibiotic treatment because I hope to get a second opinion from the "mb12 valtrex" community.....please advise, what should I do, pls. help. Thank you and may your little ones have quick recoveries in the New Year! Regards, "Bear" desperate father of a sweet two year old. > >>

December 17, 2009

Re: HIGH CLOSTRIDIA ISSUE

In my experience, a lot of the DAN! treatments lead to leaky gut rather than away from it (heavy metal challenge tests, GFCF diet recommendation without avoidance of packaged foods/soy, multivitamins with sweetners/flavors they recommend - Kirkman labs especially, probiotics and yeast treatment supplements that many kids are intolerant of)...Sorry, but it's the truth. Completely agree with . If you think foods are affecting your child, just take out all gluten, casein, and soy, cook food at home with whole food ingredients if possible, and you can mess with all the other stuff while you chelate. Chelation is the #1 rated ARI treatment and gives results, there is no reason to wait. NOTHING else is going to fix the deranged mineral transport that causes all the other problems.> >> > My son's O.A.Ts test came back with high levels of DHHP, and was diagnosed with Clostridia. His D.A.N doctor prescribed antibiotics: Vancomycin & Metrodizonal (Flagyl). > > > > His bowel movements have always been very normal but I fear that if I give him these antibiotics his bowels and mild personality might change for the worst once I take him off of the antibiotics. > > > > He turned two last week, has been on a GF/CF diet for 4 months, takes DMA, Multi.Vitamin, Zinc, D3, Folic, B6, Cod liver, Probiotics, vitamin E. He has speech delays and has repeated 35 words but not associated any one of them and his eye contact could be better. Hasn't been formally diagnosed although I know he has some form of a mild PDD.> > > > CAN SOMEONE PLEASE ADVISE? I am so terrified of giving my son antibiotics in fear that it will kill his friendly bacteria and of-set his gut and I that I might loose him permanently to the unknown realm.> > > > I asked his D.A.N Doctor if we could do Valtrex with Naizoral & Difflucan and they said since he didn't show any viral issues in his tests and because he's two they could not prescribed Valtrex and that Difflucan & Nizoral were stronger and had worst side affects. Mind you he's had two viral dual ear infections in his two years. They said that Nystatin would be the alternate medication they would prescribe instead of the antibiotics.> > > > Also, after the antibiotic treatment they would put him on a Gluthadion cream and Enhansa (cumin) to detox him. Is this a form of chelation? and how safe is it? I plan to give him HBOT treatment and hopefully B12 nasal spray in the New Year. I'm so confused, I haven't started the antibiotic treatment because I hope to get a second opinion from the "mb12 valtrex" community.....please advise, what should I do, pls. help. Thank you and may your little ones have quick recoveries in the New Year! Regards, "Bear" desperate father of a sweet two year old. > >>

December 17, 2009

Re: HIGH CLOSTRIDIA ISSUE

In my experience, a lot of the DAN! treatments lead to leaky gut rather than away from it (heavy metal challenge tests, GFCF diet recommendation without avoidance of packaged foods/soy, multivitamins with sweetners/flavors they recommend - Kirkman labs especially, probiotics and yeast treatment supplements that many kids are intolerant of)...Sorry, but it's the truth. Completely agree with . If you think foods are affecting your child, just take out all gluten, casein, and soy, cook food at home with whole food ingredients if possible, and you can mess with all the other stuff while you chelate. Chelation is the #1 rated ARI treatment and gives results, there is no reason to wait. NOTHING else is going to fix the deranged mineral transport that causes all the other problems.> >> > My son's O.A.Ts test came back with high levels of DHHP, and was diagnosed with Clostridia. His D.A.N doctor prescribed antibiotics: Vancomycin & Metrodizonal (Flagyl). > > > > His bowel movements have always been very normal but I fear that if I give him these antibiotics his bowels and mild personality might change for the worst once I take him off of the antibiotics. > > > > He turned two last week, has been on a GF/CF diet for 4 months, takes DMA, Multi.Vitamin, Zinc, D3, Folic, B6, Cod liver, Probiotics, vitamin E. He has speech delays and has repeated 35 words but not associated any one of them and his eye contact could be better. Hasn't been formally diagnosed although I know he has some form of a mild PDD.> > > > CAN SOMEONE PLEASE ADVISE? I am so terrified of giving my son antibiotics in fear that it will kill his friendly bacteria and of-set his gut and I that I might loose him permanently to the unknown realm.> > > > I asked his D.A.N Doctor if we could do Valtrex with Naizoral & Difflucan and they said since he didn't show any viral issues in his tests and because he's two they could not prescribed Valtrex and that Difflucan & Nizoral were stronger and had worst side affects. Mind you he's had two viral dual ear infections in his two years. They said that Nystatin would be the alternate medication they would prescribe instead of the antibiotics.> > > > Also, after the antibiotic treatment they would put him on a Gluthadion cream and Enhansa (cumin) to detox him. Is this a form of chelation? and how safe is it? I plan to give him HBOT treatment and hopefully B12 nasal spray in the New Year. I'm so confused, I haven't started the antibiotic treatment because I hope to get a second opinion from the "mb12 valtrex" community.....please advise, what should I do, pls. help. Thank you and may your little ones have quick recoveries in the New Year! Regards, "Bear" desperate father of a sweet two year old. > >>

December 17, 2009

Re: HIGH CLOSTRIDIA ISSUE

In my experience, a lot of the DAN! treatments lead to leaky gut rather than away from it (heavy metal challenge tests, GFCF diet recommendation without avoidance of packaged foods/soy, multivitamins with sweetners/flavors they recommend - Kirkman labs especially, probiotics and yeast treatment supplements that many kids are intolerant of)...Sorry, but it's the truth. Completely agree with . If you think foods are affecting your child, just take out all gluten, casein, and soy, cook food at home with whole food ingredients if possible, and you can mess with all the other stuff while you chelate. Chelation is the #1 rated ARI treatment and gives results, there is no reason to wait. NOTHING else is going to fix the deranged mineral transport that causes all the other problems.> >> > My son's O.A.Ts test came back with high levels of DHHP, and was diagnosed with Clostridia. His D.A.N doctor prescribed antibiotics: Vancomycin & Metrodizonal (Flagyl). > > > > His bowel movements have always been very normal but I fear that if I give him these antibiotics his bowels and mild personality might change for the worst once I take him off of the antibiotics. > > > > He turned two last week, has been on a GF/CF diet for 4 months, takes DMA, Multi.Vitamin, Zinc, D3, Folic, B6, Cod liver, Probiotics, vitamin E. He has speech delays and has repeated 35 words but not associated any one of them and his eye contact could be better. Hasn't been formally diagnosed although I know he has some form of a mild PDD.> > > > CAN SOMEONE PLEASE ADVISE? I am so terrified of giving my son antibiotics in fear that it will kill his friendly bacteria and of-set his gut and I that I might loose him permanently to the unknown realm.> > > > I asked his D.A.N Doctor if we could do Valtrex with Naizoral & Difflucan and they said since he didn't show any viral issues in his tests and because he's two they could not prescribed Valtrex and that Difflucan & Nizoral were stronger and had worst side affects. Mind you he's had two viral dual ear infections in his two years. They said that Nystatin would be the alternate medication they would prescribe instead of the antibiotics.> > > > Also, after the antibiotic treatment they would put him on a Gluthadion cream and Enhansa (cumin) to detox him. Is this a form of chelation? and how safe is it? I plan to give him HBOT treatment and hopefully B12 nasal spray in the New Year. I'm so confused, I haven't started the antibiotic treatment because I hope to get a second opinion from the "mb12 valtrex" community.....please advise, what should I do, pls. help. Thank you and may your little ones have quick recoveries in the New Year! Regards, "Bear" desperate father of a sweet two year old. > >>

December 17, 2009

but rebecca that would go against THOUSANDS of recovered kids out there were diet was KEY to there recovery, again my son is recovered with out chelation and diet was key, for those thousands of kids with celiac diet is key, for those with peptide issues diet is a must! those with allergies and IGG issues it's a must for them to function with out pain where chelation would take years, and removal immediate! I am sorry that the diet didnt work for your child, perhaps you put something in that was worse for him then milk (like soy it's a very common blunder when parents are new to all this) did you ever do IGG or IGE testing to find out WHY you got this result? there is no reason kids can't do both and i would HATE to see that discouraged being that it is reated so successful. I know the numbers for diets would also be rated higher if there were better training of nutritionists and dietians all over. I can not tell you HOW many families I have helped that found they were doing it wrong, or thought they were clean to find out they weren't, and others were but had to do further testing to find out what was stressing there childs body that they subbed in and when changes were made there kids were able to take off. I can't tell you how many families (HUNDREDS over the years) that nutritionist were helping that had them go gluten free only to put them on spelt- I SEE THIS ALMOST EVERY TIME I GO TO HEALTH FOOD STORES and strick up conversations. heck I was put in the hospital when pregnant and TOLD the dieticians I couldn't have milk, ended up on a feeding tube and throwing it up every 4 hours and was sure they didn't know what they were doing only to have them bring up the can and find the first 5 ingredients were casein. to then have them put me on baby food that ALSO contained milk in my tube. and these 5 dietians at this hosiptal were SUPPOSE to be educated and know what they were doing. then later when I went on food I keep getting gluten things on tray as well when they were suppose to be a gluten free tray. so many foods also have masked items that new families don't know how to read, so unless they join support groups that are great and active they don't get that correct guidence. many also over carb there kids subbing out more carbs to replace the limited diet they had BEFORE diet of only carbs and never get to balenced nutrition. back when we had TONS of DANs out there I actually saw MORE people doing the diet right. espeically when parents had to call companies to find out what was really gluten free. now so many companies post it on there products to move it off the shelf when they have no idea what gluten free even is when you get down to it. when alot of this biomedical stuff started diet was rated over 80% for gfcf (yeah I was around back then) now there are more diet options to try and more info out there on things like oxilates, and glycemic index ect. we ARE better educated in MORE issues, but still need MORE dr's who are good at what they are doing. ALA still has side effects as well, many families I know who did fine with DMSA added ALA in down the road when body burden was bad and yeast was a very big issues, many even had to take breaks from chelation. I have only met even on groups a few families (I dare say less then 15 in all) that have done ONLY ALA with success (for their chelation option) there are only 3 I know who have done it with OUT dr's recommendations to do it that way. only 2 families that have done it with out diet as well. that is not a high percent and I have been around almost 7 years on these groups. chelating kids 2, gfcf diet, this one, AMBD (I think that is the order those go in) ect. I do agree that doing more rounds closer together is better for the body, I have no arguement there. I do however think testings is a wonderful and essential part of finding out what your childs issues are. if for nothing more then records to show your child needed this and these are the gains you have made over the years. or you will always have doubters say "well then perhaps your child never had autism to begin with", perhaps you just had metal poisening. diet here DID heal my kid, we have scopes to prove it! HUGE difference! suppliments were also key. we have celiac in the family and lactose intollerence we found out years into the game. and I was SO glad that I followed my instincts and testing and pulled things out. I can not IMAGINE where my sons health would be if I hadn't. again you have to look at all those recovered kids out there and see what worked for them and what there issues were ect. MOST of them required diet, it is SOOOOO rare to find kids who didn't. even in those few that I know that DIDN"T do diet, they are "recovered" from things that qualify autism, some are not at peer level STILL. some 6 plus years behind there age level. but don't qualify as autistic. I do agree though, you can't just listen to one person, that would insane, find all the recovered kids you can, and ask ask ask~ find out what they did and how they got there, never stop researching! but know now all kids journey's are the same in how they reached healing but that doesn't belittle there journey none the less, some reach faster then others, some have less issues then otheres, the more damage you have the more you have to undo.

Re: HIGH CLOSTRIDIA ISSUE

In my experience, a lot of the DAN! treatments lead to leaky gut rather than away from it (heavy metal challenge tests, GFCF diet recommendation without avoidance of packaged foods/soy, multivitamins with sweetners/flavors they recommend - Kirkman labs especially, probiotics and yeast treatment supplements that many kids are intolerant of)...Sorry, but it's the truth. Completely agree with . If you think foods are affecting your child, just take out all gluten, casein, and soy, cook food at home with whole food ingredients if possible, and you can mess with all the other stuff while you chelate. Chelation is the #1 rated ARI treatment and gives results, there is no reason to wait. NOTHING else is going to fix the deranged mineral transport that causes all the other problems.> >> > My son's O.A.Ts test came back with high levels of DHHP, and was diagnosed with Clostridia. His D.A.N doctor prescribed antibiotics: Vancomycin & Metrodizonal (Flagyl). > > > > His bowel movements have always been very normal but I fear that if I give him these antibiotics his bowels and mild personality might change for the worst once I take him off of the antibiotics. > > > > He turned two last week, has been on a GF/CF diet for 4 months, takes DMA, Multi.Vitamin, Zinc, D3, Folic, B6, Cod liver, Probiotics, vitamin E. He has speech delays and has repeated 35 words but not associated any one of them and his eye contact could be better. Hasn't been formally diagnosed although I know he has some form of a mild PDD.> > > > CAN SOMEONE PLEASE ADVISE? I am so terrified of giving my son antibiotics in fear that it will kill his friendly bacteria and of-set his gut and I that I might loose him permanently to the unknown realm.> > > > I asked his D.A.N Doctor if we could do Valtrex with Naizoral & Difflucan and they said since he didn't show any viral issues in his tests and because he's two they could not prescribed Valtrex and that Difflucan & Nizoral were stronger and had worst side affects. Mind you he's had two viral dual ear infections in his two years. They said that Nystatin would be the alternate medication they would prescribe instead of the antibiotics.> > > > Also, after the antibiotic treatment they would put him on a Gluthadion cream and Enhansa (cumin) to detox him. Is this a form of chelation? and how safe is it? I plan to give him HBOT treatment and hopefully B12 nasal spray in the New Year. I'm so confused, I haven't started the antibiotic treatment because I hope to get a second opinion from the "mb12 valtrex" community.....please advise, what should I do, pls. help. Thank you and may your little ones have quick recoveries in the New Year! Regards, "Bear" desperate father of a sweet two year old. > >>

December 17, 2009

but rebecca that would go against THOUSANDS of recovered kids out there were diet was KEY to there recovery, again my son is recovered with out chelation and diet was key, for those thousands of kids with celiac diet is key, for those with peptide issues diet is a must! those with allergies and IGG issues it's a must for them to function with out pain where chelation would take years, and removal immediate! I am sorry that the diet didnt work for your child, perhaps you put something in that was worse for him then milk (like soy it's a very common blunder when parents are new to all this) did you ever do IGG or IGE testing to find out WHY you got this result? there is no reason kids can't do both and i would HATE to see that discouraged being that it is reated so successful. I know the numbers for diets would also be rated higher if there were better training of nutritionists and dietians all over. I can not tell you HOW many families I have helped that found they were doing it wrong, or thought they were clean to find out they weren't, and others were but had to do further testing to find out what was stressing there childs body that they subbed in and when changes were made there kids were able to take off. I can't tell you how many families (HUNDREDS over the years) that nutritionist were helping that had them go gluten free only to put them on spelt- I SEE THIS ALMOST EVERY TIME I GO TO HEALTH FOOD STORES and strick up conversations. heck I was put in the hospital when pregnant and TOLD the dieticians I couldn't have milk, ended up on a feeding tube and throwing it up every 4 hours and was sure they didn't know what they were doing only to have them bring up the can and find the first 5 ingredients were casein. to then have them put me on baby food that ALSO contained milk in my tube. and these 5 dietians at this hosiptal were SUPPOSE to be educated and know what they were doing. then later when I went on food I keep getting gluten things on tray as well when they were suppose to be a gluten free tray. so many foods also have masked items that new families don't know how to read, so unless they join support groups that are great and active they don't get that correct guidence. many also over carb there kids subbing out more carbs to replace the limited diet they had BEFORE diet of only carbs and never get to balenced nutrition. back when we had TONS of DANs out there I actually saw MORE people doing the diet right. espeically when parents had to call companies to find out what was really gluten free. now so many companies post it on there products to move it off the shelf when they have no idea what gluten free even is when you get down to it. when alot of this biomedical stuff started diet was rated over 80% for gfcf (yeah I was around back then) now there are more diet options to try and more info out there on things like oxilates, and glycemic index ect. we ARE better educated in MORE issues, but still need MORE dr's who are good at what they are doing. ALA still has side effects as well, many families I know who did fine with DMSA added ALA in down the road when body burden was bad and yeast was a very big issues, many even had to take breaks from chelation. I have only met even on groups a few families (I dare say less then 15 in all) that have done ONLY ALA with success (for their chelation option) there are only 3 I know who have done it with OUT dr's recommendations to do it that way. only 2 families that have done it with out diet as well. that is not a high percent and I have been around almost 7 years on these groups. chelating kids 2, gfcf diet, this one, AMBD (I think that is the order those go in) ect. I do agree that doing more rounds closer together is better for the body, I have no arguement there. I do however think testings is a wonderful and essential part of finding out what your childs issues are. if for nothing more then records to show your child needed this and these are the gains you have made over the years. or you will always have doubters say "well then perhaps your child never had autism to begin with", perhaps you just had metal poisening. diet here DID heal my kid, we have scopes to prove it! HUGE difference! suppliments were also key. we have celiac in the family and lactose intollerence we found out years into the game. and I was SO glad that I followed my instincts and testing and pulled things out. I can not IMAGINE where my sons health would be if I hadn't. again you have to look at all those recovered kids out there and see what worked for them and what there issues were ect. MOST of them required diet, it is SOOOOO rare to find kids who didn't. even in those few that I know that DIDN"T do diet, they are "recovered" from things that qualify autism, some are not at peer level STILL. some 6 plus years behind there age level. but don't qualify as autistic. I do agree though, you can't just listen to one person, that would insane, find all the recovered kids you can, and ask ask ask~ find out what they did and how they got there, never stop researching! but know now all kids journey's are the same in how they reached healing but that doesn't belittle there journey none the less, some reach faster then others, some have less issues then otheres, the more damage you have the more you have to undo.

Re: HIGH CLOSTRIDIA ISSUE

In my experience, a lot of the DAN! treatments lead to leaky gut rather than away from it (heavy metal challenge tests, GFCF diet recommendation without avoidance of packaged foods/soy, multivitamins with sweetners/flavors they recommend - Kirkman labs especially, probiotics and yeast treatment supplements that many kids are intolerant of)...Sorry, but it's the truth. Completely agree with . If you think foods are affecting your child, just take out all gluten, casein, and soy, cook food at home with whole food ingredients if possible, and you can mess with all the other stuff while you chelate. Chelation is the #1 rated ARI treatment and gives results, there is no reason to wait. NOTHING else is going to fix the deranged mineral transport that causes all the other problems.> >> > My son's O.A.Ts test came back with high levels of DHHP, and was diagnosed with Clostridia. His D.A.N doctor prescribed antibiotics: Vancomycin & Metrodizonal (Flagyl). > > > > His bowel movements have always been very normal but I fear that if I give him these antibiotics his bowels and mild personality might change for the worst once I take him off of the antibiotics. > > > > He turned two last week, has been on a GF/CF diet for 4 months, takes DMA, Multi.Vitamin, Zinc, D3, Folic, B6, Cod liver, Probiotics, vitamin E. He has speech delays and has repeated 35 words but not associated any one of them and his eye contact could be better. Hasn't been formally diagnosed although I know he has some form of a mild PDD.> > > > CAN SOMEONE PLEASE ADVISE? I am so terrified of giving my son antibiotics in fear that it will kill his friendly bacteria and of-set his gut and I that I might loose him permanently to the unknown realm.> > > > I asked his D.A.N Doctor if we could do Valtrex with Naizoral & Difflucan and they said since he didn't show any viral issues in his tests and because he's two they could not prescribed Valtrex and that Difflucan & Nizoral were stronger and had worst side affects. Mind you he's had two viral dual ear infections in his two years. They said that Nystatin would be the alternate medication they would prescribe instead of the antibiotics.> > > > Also, after the antibiotic treatment they would put him on a Gluthadion cream and Enhansa (cumin) to detox him. Is this a form of chelation? and how safe is it? I plan to give him HBOT treatment and hopefully B12 nasal spray in the New Year. I'm so confused, I haven't started the antibiotic treatment because I hope to get a second opinion from the "mb12 valtrex" community.....please advise, what should I do, pls. help. Thank you and may your little ones have quick recoveries in the New Year! Regards, "Bear" desperate father of a sweet two year old. > >>

December 17, 2009

Re: HIGH CLOSTRIDIA ISSUE

In my experience, a lot of the DAN! treatments lead to leaky gut rather than away from it (heavy metal challenge tests, GFCF diet recommendation without avoidance of packaged foods/soy, multivitamins with sweetners/flavors they recommend - Kirkman labs especially, probiotics and yeast treatment supplements that many kids are intolerant of)...Sorry, but it's the truth. Completely agree with . If you think foods are affecting your child, just take out all gluten, casein, and soy, cook food at home with whole food ingredients if possible, and you can mess with all the other stuff while you chelate. Chelation is the #1 rated ARI treatment and gives results, there is no reason to wait. NOTHING else is going to fix the deranged mineral transport that causes all the other problems.> >> > My son's O.A.Ts test came back with high levels of DHHP, and was diagnosed with Clostridia. His D.A.N doctor prescribed antibiotics: Vancomycin & Metrodizonal (Flagyl). > > > > His bowel movements have always been very normal but I fear that if I give him these antibiotics his bowels and mild personality might change for the worst once I take him off of the antibiotics. > > > > He turned two last week, has been on a GF/CF diet for 4 months, takes DMA, Multi.Vitamin, Zinc, D3, Folic, B6, Cod liver, Probiotics, vitamin E. He has speech delays and has repeated 35 words but not associated any one of them and his eye contact could be better. Hasn't been formally diagnosed although I know he has some form of a mild PDD.> > > > CAN SOMEONE PLEASE ADVISE? I am so terrified of giving my son antibiotics in fear that it will kill his friendly bacteria and of-set his gut and I that I might loose him permanently to the unknown realm.> > > > I asked his D.A.N Doctor if we could do Valtrex with Naizoral & Difflucan and they said since he didn't show any viral issues in his tests and because he's two they could not prescribed Valtrex and that Difflucan & Nizoral were stronger and had worst side affects. Mind you he's had two viral dual ear infections in his two years. They said that Nystatin would be the alternate medication they would prescribe instead of the antibiotics.> > > > Also, after the antibiotic treatment they would put him on a Gluthadion cream and Enhansa (cumin) to detox him. Is this a form of chelation? and how safe is it? I plan to give him HBOT treatment and hopefully B12 nasal spray in the New Year. I'm so confused, I haven't started the antibiotic treatment because I hope to get a second opinion from the "mb12 valtrex" community.....please advise, what should I do, pls. help. Thank you and may your little ones have quick recoveries in the New Year! Regards, "Bear" desperate father of a sweet two year old. > >>

December 17, 2009

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From: TerriM

> > >> > > The same DMSA study was done twice that I know of, both times it was shown to normalize glutathione levels (for at least 3 months I think) in children with autism after only one round.> > >> >>

December 17, 2009

----- Original Message -----

From: TerriM

> > >> > > The same DMSA study was done twice that I know of, both times it was shown to normalize glutathione levels (for at least 3 months I think) in children with autism after only one round.> > >> >>

December 17, 2009

----- Original Message -----

From: TerriM

> > >> > > The same DMSA study was done twice that I know of, both times it was shown to normalize glutathione levels (for at least 3 months I think) in children with autism after only one round.> > >> >>

December 17, 2009

My apologies , my son is not on DMSA yet he's on a supplement called DMG, I got confused. I haven't even started the Clostridia treatment yet until I do some further research on this Vanco, Flagyl, Enhansa & Gluthadione. I like your aproach, to take things with a grain of salt. I mean really, these doctors scare me because they say, "Oh high Clostridia, we need to address that with antibiotics right away!" Well I'm sorry I'm taking my time and researching this on my own first. So I have until the beginning of Jan. to decide if Vanco & the rest of the meds is the way to go or perhaps just do Nystatin, Difflucan with Caprylic acid.

I just don't want to mess up his 2 yr old gut and kill his good bacteria. I mean he eats well, has nice bowl movements, sleeps & naps well (thank god) but I'm just so baffled with his test results. Now what does this anal ring look like? because I've never seen it on my son and neither did the DAN doctor? and what do you think about just trying Nystatin, Difflucan & Caprylic Acid ? and how do you administer the Oregano & Olive leaf oils? Do you cook with it or add it to his food? and where can I buy it?

Thanks again for your informative e-mail, I truly appreciate it!

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 8:56:25 PMSubject: Re: HIGH CLOSTRIDIA ISSUE

Metals are often at the root of these sorts of issues. Unfortunately, too many people wait to remove them as a last course of action. We used the Flagyl too and saw great results, but they were very temporary. There are many natural yeast and bacterial treatments that can be used, such as: GSE, Oil of Oregano (I swear by this), Olive Leaf Extract (for us needs to be used with a lot of yeast fighters), Uva Ursi (has time limit restrictions, can't use indefinitely, but works really well), Caprylic Acid (love this!), Biotin (B vitamin that helps the body fight yeast)...the list is really endless, there are so many natural remedies out there, the key is to find the right combination for your child. We use a lot of them all together, three times a day! And for us, it's part of the biofilm protocol. While I use and respect DAN! doctors, I do my own thing and use them only for what I think I need them for, IE - scripts...tests. ..everything else I do

on my own. I research endlessly and when I feel pretty good about a course of action, I delve into it whole-heartedly. I never tried Vanco with my older son, we used Flagyl, but my younger son was on it for a few days while he was in the ICU for a febrile seizure once. It was the first time I realized that the red anal ring went away completely.. ..this means it was probably caused by bacteria rather than the yeast I thought he had! Bacteria is our big problem with our older son too, so I am not surprised. I have been using the natural methods along with some daily Nystatin for yeast, daily with him and the ring is now gone using only naturals! We also use the biofilm protocol with him.How is it that your son is on DMSA? He needs to keep the DMSA in his blood stream continuously in order to not cause metal redistribuiton. Andy Cutler's protocol of every 3 hours during the day and 4 at night, accounts for that. We do the Andy Cutler

protocol, yes, it's been very promising for us. We are on round 17 this coming weekend. We use the low, frequent dosing that he recommends. We don't use juice, because my son can take pills just fine. We have never used HBOT, merely out of inability to pay for it, but I have heard great things about it. We have never used Valtrex either, but we do a natural form of something similar, we use enzymes combined with Olive Leaf Extract to eliminate viruses.Yes, I have heard of enhansa and glutathione, but the dr's I use don't recommend them. Glutathione is very hard to assimilate into the body, absorption rates are very low. I have been told by our DAN! that he doesn't prefer a supplement of glutathione, but to use things that increase the levels naturally, like OSR and DMSA. We dont' use OSR either, because of major yeast issues, but with chelation, we are seeing good results overall.> >> > My son's O.A.Ts test came back with high levels of DHHP, and was diagnosed with Clostridia.Ã‚ Ã‚ His D.A.N doctor prescribed antibiotics:Ã‚ Vancomycin & Ã‚ MetrodizonalÃ‚ (Flagyl).Ã‚ > > Ã‚ > > His bowel movements have always been very normal but I fear that if I give him these antibiotics his bowels and mild personality might change for the worst once I take him off of the antibiotics.Ã‚ > > Ã‚ > > He turned two last week, has been on a GF/CF diet for 4 months, takes

DMA, Multi.Vitamin, Zinc, D3, Folic, B6, Cod liver, Probiotics, vitamin E.Ã‚ He has speech delays and has repeated 35 words but not associated any one of them and his eye contact could be better.Ã‚ Hasn't been formally diagnosed although I know he has some form of a mild PDD.> > Ã‚ > > CAN SOMEONE PLEASE ADVISE? I amÃ‚ so terrified ofÃ‚ giving my son antibiotics in fear thatÃ‚ it will kill his friendly bacteria and of-set his gut and I that I might loose him permanently to the unknown realm.> > Ã‚ > > IÃ‚ askedÃ‚ his D.A.NÃ‚ Doctor if we could do Valtrex with Naizoral & Ã‚ Difflucan and they saidÃ‚ since he didn't show any viral issues in his testsÃ‚ and because he's two they could not prescribed Valtrex and that Difflucan & NizoralÃ‚ were stronger and had worst side affects.Ã‚ Mind you he's had two viral dual ear infections in his

two years.Ã‚ They said that Nystatin would be the alternate medicationÃ‚ they would prescribe instead of the antibiotics.> > Ã‚ > > Also, after the antibiotic treatment they would put him on a Gluthadion cream andÃ‚ Enhansa (cumin) to detox him.Ã‚ Is thisÃ‚ a form ofÃ‚ chelation? and how safe is it?Ã‚ I plan toÃ‚ give him HBOT treatment and hopefully B12 nasal sprayÃ‚ in the New Year.Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ I'm so confused,Ã‚ I haven't started the antibiotic treatment because I hope to get a second opinion from the "mb12 valtrex" community... ..please advise, what should I do,Ã‚ pls. help.Ã‚ Thank youÃ‚ and may yourÃ‚ little ones have quick recoveries in the New Year!Ã‚ Regards, "Bear" desperate father of a sweet two year old.Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ >

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December 17, 2009