Guest guest Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Carol- You bring up an important issue. On my " wish list " is to find a clear best practice regarding exactly what you are asking. Even our hospital IC manager--who used to be a rehab nurse in a prior incarnation--has had to improvise a bit in helping us with applying a standard policy. Philosophically, our approach is like this: When the patient is in the room, acute hospital standards apply. Essentially, staff wear barriers to protect themselves and to prevent carrying the bugs outside of the room. However, when the patient leaves the room for dining or therapy or such, the approach is to have the patient wear the barriers. (And by the way, this same approach is used in the acute hospital when patients leave the room for gait training or diagnostic tests.) Our staff will generally wear gloves when doing hands on assistance, and also wear gowns if it seems warranted to have more protection. It seems to work, we know of no outbreaks of infection in our unit. I do think it's especially confusing for family who might be moving about with the patient and not understand the logic of what they are asked to do with wearing gowns. I'm afraid I can't really address the issue of expenses; it just seems to be part of the cost of doing business now. Bob Perlson Director, Rehabilitation Rogue Valley Medical Center Medford, Oregon Isolation and Infection Control Practice Differences For those of you with IP Rehab Units within an Acute Care hospital, do you follow the same Isolation and Infection control practices as is done on the acute units? Or do you have a separate policy that more specifically meets the needs of the way staff practice on the Rehab unit? Staff in all of our therapies find the practices which make sense for acute, where patients are typically seen in their rooms, confusing when attempting to apply to the Rehab unit where they are leaving their rooms to come to clinics, dining rooms, etc. We are spending a lot of money on gowns and gloves, taking them off because we can't wear gloves in the halls when transporting patients, but having to put them on again in the rooms or clinics, then reversing the whole process when leaving the clinics, in order to be in compliance with general policy. We are allowed to wear gloves in the halls only if we are coming in " close bodily contact " during treatment interventions in which we are using the hallway as a treatment area. Just wondering if others have run into similar issues and developed separate policies for Rehab vs acute floors. Carol Rehder, PT Manager, Physical Therapy Genesis Medical Center rehder@... A J.D. Power and Associates Distinguished Hospital for providing " An Outstanding Patient Experience " NOTICE: This communication is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this communication is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the communication, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify me immediately by replying to this email. REMINDER: The disclosure of medical information is strictly prohibited by federal regulation. Unauthorized release of medical information may result in administrative, civil and criminal sanctions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Carol, This should be discussed with your infection control personnel to help you decide. The decision should be what works, but I would suggest having a policy in place in the event you are reviewed by any accrediting body who would look for consistency. JCAHO definitely would be looking for this if they are an accrediting agency you use, and would ask your staff " why " they do what they do. Make sure you show record of an inservice/competency with your staff in the proper procedure. Matt Dvorak, PT Yankton, SD ________________________________ From: PTManager on behalf of Carol Rehder Sent: Wed 8/17/2011 10:01 AM To: PTManager Cc: King, Jan; Sigler, Subject: Isolation and Infection Control Practice Differences For those of you with IP Rehab Units within an Acute Care hospital, do you follow the same Isolation and Infection control practices as is done on the acute units? Or do you have a separate policy that more specifically meets the needs of the way staff practice on the Rehab unit? Staff in all of our therapies find the practices which make sense for acute, where patients are typically seen in their rooms, confusing when attempting to apply to the Rehab unit where they are leaving their rooms to come to clinics, dining rooms, etc. We are spending a lot of money on gowns and gloves, taking them off because we can't wear gloves in the halls when transporting patients, but having to put them on again in the rooms or clinics, then reversing the whole process when leaving the clinics, in order to be in compliance with general policy. We are allowed to wear gloves in the halls only if we are coming in " close bodily contact " during treatment interventions in which we are using the hallway as a treatment area. Just wondering if others have run into similar issues and developed separate policies for Rehab vs acute floors. Carol Rehder, PT Manager, Physical Therapy Genesis Medical Center rehder@... <mailto:rehder%40genesishealth.com> A J.D. Power and Associates Distinguished Hospital for providing " An Outstanding Patient Experience " NOTICE: This communication is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this communication is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the communication, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify me immediately by replying to this email. REMINDER: The disclosure of medical information is strictly prohibited by federal regulation. Unauthorized release of medical information may result in administrative, civil and criminal sanctions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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