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> I've been unsuccessfully searching in the files for a method to

> gradually wean my son off Risperdal. I have always been skeptical

> about these meds, but yesterday I became worried when I read that

> Tardive Diskinesia shows up after you stop this med and the risks of

> it are greater with prolonged use. I want to cut my losses short.

> Thanks.

> G

I don't recall how to wean off it being discussed either.

I'd suggest reducing it by 1/3 per week until you are at the minimum

dosage that does anything at all, then stopping.

I also suggest using vitamin A 500-1000 IU per pound per day to change

his dopamine sensitivity in a positive manner.

What exactly was the indication for the risperdal? That might help

understand what to do.

Andy . .. . . . . . . . .

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--- In @y..., " s " <rat.richards@x>

wrote:

> Hi my little one is on .2ml (point 2 of a ml) we were told to half

it for

> one week then stop. I don't know about higher doses - maybe cut it

down

> slowly over a month - should be ok. Infact I don't give it to him

on the

> weekends anyway he just needs it for concentration at school. So he

gets

> breaks.

If you need to use it that way, try vitamin A instead. 500-1000 IU

per pound of kid, daily. Maybe also some tyrosine. .. . . . .. . . .

.. . . .

>

> Regards

> T

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Hi ,

This happened with my mother in law (very sad) However, She was on a

pretty high dose and did have some psuedoparkinsons s/s while on it.

Have you noticed this at all??

-- In @y..., " tamara3810471 " <grullonm@m...> wrote:

> I've been unsuccessfully searching in the files for a method to

> gradually wean my son off Risperdal. I have always been skeptical

> about these meds, but yesterday I became worried when I read that

> Tardive Diskinesia shows up after you stop this med and the risks

of

> it are greater with prolonged use. I want to cut my losses short.

> Thanks.

> G

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> In a message dated 10/9/02 2:57:24 PM Central Daylight Time,

> AndyCutler@a... writes:

>

>

> > I also suggest using vitamin A 500-1000 IU per pound per day to

change

> > his dopamine sensitivity in a positive manner.

> >

>

> How does vitamin A change dopamine sensativity? Does it increase

dopamine in

> the brain somehow?

> Gaylen

>

Vitamin A increases the number of dopamine D2 receptors in the brain.

It may also have other effects, but that one is directly measured and

documented in research papers so it is easy to understand what is

going on.

Andy . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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, My mom and her sisters had a spoonful of CLO everyday in the

winter when they were growning up in the 40s and 50s. Guess that

information was too old fashioned to be passed on to the next

generation. Maddie

> > In a message dated 10/9/02 2:57:24 PM Central Daylight Time,

> > AndyCutler@a... writes:

> >

> >

> > > I also suggest using vitamin A 500-1000 IU per pound per day

to

> change

> > > his dopamine sensitivity in a positive manner.

> > >

> >

> > How does vitamin A change dopamine sensativity? Does it

increase

> dopamine in

> > the brain somehow?

> > Gaylen

> >

> Vitamin A increases the number of dopamine D2 receptors in the

brain.

> It may also have other effects, but that one is directly

measured and

> documented in research papers so it is easy to understand what

is

> going on.

>

> Andy . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

>

>

>

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I weaned my son off risperdal over a year ago, and have had no side

effects other than the ones risperdal gave disappeared. Can you tell

me what this Tardive Diskinesia is?

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> I've been unsuccessfully searching in the files for a method to

> gradually wean my son off Risperdal. I have always been skeptical

> about these meds, but yesterday I became worried when I read that

> Tardive Diskinesia shows up after you stop this med and the risks

of

> it are greater with prolonged use. I want to cut my losses short.

> Thanks.

> G

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I weaned my son off risperdal over a year ago, and have had no side

effects other than the ones risperdal gave disappeared. Can you tell

me what this Tardive Diskinesia is?

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> I've been unsuccessfully searching in the files for a method to

> gradually wean my son off Risperdal. I have always been skeptical

> about these meds, but yesterday I became worried when I read that

> Tardive Diskinesia shows up after you stop this med and the risks

of

> it are greater with prolonged use. I want to cut my losses short.

> Thanks.

> G

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Tardive dyskinesia is involuntary muscle spasming of the tongue,

fingers, toes, trunk and pelvis. It can be a permanent side effect

of psychotropic meds. My mother in law has this and her abdomen

spasms and her tongue rubs on the top of her mouth.

I wouldn't worry about your son at this point...it would have caused

problems sooner.

> > I've been unsuccessfully searching in the files for a method to

> > gradually wean my son off Risperdal. I have always been

skeptical

> > about these meds, but yesterday I became worried when I read that

> > Tardive Diskinesia shows up after you stop this med and the risks

> of

> > it are greater with prolonged use. I want to cut my losses short.

> > Thanks.

> > G

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  • 3 years later...

We successfully weaned off Risperdal.

Risperdal does suppress certain symptoms.

It may be, not that

he is dependent upon Risperdal, but that the

underlying symptom is allowed to show

itself in the absence of Risperdal.

I wonder what the bad symptom is that

you see as you come off Risperdal.

Our own personal devil is " Yeast. "

I wonder if that is not what you are seeing.

Of course, you have not reported the symptoms,

so I am just guessing.

We have been figthing " Yeast " for almost 3 years.

This week we have it under control for the first

time in a long time. We are taking no supplements,

except calcium, TD-glutathione, and Authia Cream.

We just went SCD.

We are taking one prescription for " Yeast " : Nystatin.

For the last 3 days we have had some peace. Knock on

wood!

--- JLJukoski@... wrote:

> Has anyone here had success in weaning off

> Risperdal? I posted this

> question over a year ago and proceeded to wean very

> slowly with huge regression

> resulting. I weaned at 0.1 mg every two weeks,

> which is extremely slow.

>

> My son has been taking Risperdal for a little over

> two years. He benefitted

> from it for about two months. Our psychiatrist then

> kept increasing the

> dose, without any benefit. The first time we tried

> to wean, we were able to get

> him down to .5 mg twice per day. A few months later

> is when I did the .1 mg

> every two weeks weaning. By the time, he was down

> to .2 mg twice per day,

> he was not doing well. And decreasing it further

> only made it worse. At that

> point, I looked back to the previous weeks during

> which we had been weaning

> and saw that he did make a gradual decline during

> the entire weaning process.

> I put him back to .5 mg twice per day and he was

> okay again.

>

> After so many doctors (including DAN) telling me

> otherwise, our new DAN

> nutritionist finally agrees with me that my son's

> body is dependent upon

> Risperdal and not benefitting from Risperdal. The

> regression from weaning is not

> because he is no longer receiving the benefits that

> Risperdal provides.

> Instead, the regression is because we are taking

> away something his body now

> requires to function. Our nutritionist says that

> Risperdal (as well as other

> psychiatric drugs) alters the brain metabolism,

> making the brain become dependent

> upon Risperdal.

>

> So that is my long story about Risperdal, and I'm

> hoping that someone else

> has been where I am and can advise me about what to

> do. I definitely want to

> wean him soon. Thanks so much for all help.

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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I have not weaned off of Risperdal, tho I have a nephew that did,

luckily he didn't take it for too long. I have weaned off of effexor,

or should I say I am still weaning off of it. I agree with this:

Instead, the regression is because we are taking

> > away something his body now

> > requires to function. Our nutritionist says that

> > Risperdal (as well as other

> > psychiatric drugs) alters the brain metabolism,

> > making the brain become dependent

> > upon Risperdal.

In my physiological psych text there is a discussion about what it

means to become dependent on a drug. Basically, the brain itself is

altered. It creates new receptor sites that alters the structure of the

brain. I have to wonder that if the drug is then removed, how does the

brain deal with this? Does it create permanent damage or does the

brain prune these new receptor sites?

I really needed something to help me to come off. It is the lesser of

two evils for me, my plan is to come off of this once the other one is

fully withdrawn from my system. The other one is something that I can

come off of easily. Even tho I am off of effexor and have been for a

number of weeks now, I still get symptoms. This stuff is scarry!

As for my nephew, he came off of risperdal easily because he wasn't on

it long, and he took another med right away. I'm not suggesting that

this is what people have to do, but that it seems that once you get

stuck on something, it's easy to see how one med turns to two meds and

so on.

Just some thoughts,

I'm sorry I can't be more helpful

Stacey

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I weaned off of Risperdal sucessfully a year ago. It doesn't seem

like its been that long ago, but it has. I went really slow at it and

I had been taking it for 10 years. I believe Risperdal was causing td

type side effects for me. I really don't have any suggestions besides

going really slow. For me I didn't start any new med after I got off

of it. I was still on Clonidine and I came off that about 6 months

ago. I've been med free since then.

Carolyn

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I guess I wanted to put in my concerns about risperidal too. My son

has been on it for 3 years now, and even though it is only 1mg per

day. (He was suppose to be on 2mgs a day but we just never increased

it even though the doc thinks we have) I wanted to say that the

risperdal is a substance that blocks the D2 (dopamine)receptors..

(not sure about seratonin receptors but Im sure it affects them in

some way.) We also have tried to wean him off of that. Anything it

seems like you do with risperdal you don't see any differences in

behavior good or bad till 2 weeks later...I feel. We have tried

several times to wean and get the same results. 2 weeks later we

see more crying, more aggression, more throw yourself on the floor

fits and more non compliance. add it back and well-la...everythings

fine with the world. I hate that he is on it. I am afraid of the

unknown long term affects of neuroleptic on children. When you find

out how to do it right or what to replace it with to make the

weaning process run smoothly...post back and let us know.

C.F.

> >

> > Has anyone here had success in weaning off Risperdal? I posted

this

> > question over a year ago and proceeded to wean very slowly with

huge

> regression

> > resulting. I weaned at 0.1 mg every two weeks, which is

extremely

> slow.

> >

> > My son has been taking Risperdal for a little over two years.

He

> benefitted

> > from it for about two months. Our psychiatrist then kept

> increasing the

> > dose, without any benefit. The first time we tried to wean, we

> were able to get

> > him down to .5 mg twice per day. A few months later is when I

did

> the .1 mg

> > every two weeks weaning. By the time, he was down to .2 mg

twice

> per day,

> > he was not doing well. And decreasing it further only made it

> worse. At that

> > point, I looked back to the previous weeks during which we had

been

> weaning

> > and saw that he did make a gradual decline during the entire

> weaning process.

> > I put him back to .5 mg twice per day and he was okay again.

> >

> > After so many doctors (including DAN) telling me otherwise, our

new

> DAN

> > nutritionist finally agrees with me that my son's body is

dependent

> upon

> > Risperdal and not benefitting from Risperdal. The regression

from

> weaning is not

> > because he is no longer receiving the benefits that Risperdal

> provides.

> > Instead, the regression is because we are taking away something

his

> body now

> > requires to function. Our nutritionist says that Risperdal (as

> well as other

> > psychiatric drugs) alters the brain metabolism, making the brain

> become dependent

> > upon Risperdal.

> >

> > So that is my long story about Risperdal, and I'm hoping that

> someone else

> > has been where I am and can advise me about what to do. I

> definitely want to

> > wean him soon. Thanks so much for all help.

> >

> >

> >

> >

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