Guest guest Posted April 7, 1999 Report Share Posted April 7, 1999 It's long overdue! Yes. Pat Eppler > new date > > > > > > > > > > > > I will sue after. A strong argument BCBSFL has is that the FL > > Insurance > > > > Commissioner reviews every part of their policy before they > > are allowed > > > > to sell product. Ins Com approved my policy so implicit it is not > > > > discriminatory. I know all of your other arguments, while > > compelling, it > > > > is hard to get over Ins Com approval. So, plan of attack is > to see how > > > > they enforced exclusion- some paid for and some not? Our best > > argument. > > > > I will file Complaint with FL Insurance Commissioner, they will then > > > > investigate payment trend. Thanks for your help. I am mad and I will > > > > pursue suit as it is a matter of principal. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Start a new hobby. Meet a new friend. > http://www.ONElist.com > ONElist: The leading provider of free e-mail list services! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 1999 Report Share Posted April 7, 1999 It's long overdue! Yes. Pat Eppler > new date > > > > > > > > > > > > I will sue after. A strong argument BCBSFL has is that the FL > > Insurance > > > > Commissioner reviews every part of their policy before they > > are allowed > > > > to sell product. Ins Com approved my policy so implicit it is not > > > > discriminatory. I know all of your other arguments, while > > compelling, it > > > > is hard to get over Ins Com approval. So, plan of attack is > to see how > > > > they enforced exclusion- some paid for and some not? Our best > > argument. > > > > I will file Complaint with FL Insurance Commissioner, they will then > > > > investigate payment trend. Thanks for your help. I am mad and I will > > > > pursue suit as it is a matter of principal. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Start a new hobby. Meet a new friend. > http://www.ONElist.com > ONElist: The leading provider of free e-mail list services! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 1999 Report Share Posted April 7, 1999 Dr R YES Yes yes.... count me in on the law suit. I take this matter very dear to heart. The insurance company have made me fight for treatment that is medically necessary -this is not fair. Furthermore, I feel for the many people who are denied and do not have the ability or resources to appeal and fight back. Please let your friend know anything about me, and he is welcome to contact me anytime. I am not sure what I can do, just let me know. Kathy Kaiser Permente appealing???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 1999 Report Share Posted April 7, 1999 I would like some more info. on this. Does it matter what state you live in? I am surprised it has taken this long for someone to think of this - Good for you! I will help in any way! Tara Lynn Dimirsky Norfolk, Va BMI 41 May 10th surgery - pending approval??? --- " Rutledge.M.D., F.A.C.S. " wrote: > From: " Rutledge.M.D., F.A.C.S. " > > > Hello to all, > > One of our patients is a lawyer who has mentioned > the possibility of > starting a class action law suit against insurance > companies under the > Americans with Disabilities Act. > > We will need people who want to join. See Below... > > This is like when the smokers went after the Tobacco > Companies. > > Can you help? > > Rutledge, M.D., F.A.C.S. > The Center for Laparoscopic Obesity Surgery > Regional Surgical Associates, P.A. > 4301 Ben lin Blvd. > P. O. Box 15698 > Durham, North Carolina 27704 > Telephone #: > Fax #: > E mail: Dr_Rutledge@... > (Note: > There is an “_” between the Dr and Rutledge:) > Web site: http://clos.net > Durham Regional Hospital #: > > > > new date > > > > > > > > > > > > I will sue after. A strong argument BCBSFL has > is that the FL > > Insurance > > > > Commissioner reviews every part of their > policy before they > > are allowed > > > > to sell product. Ins Com approved my policy so > implicit it is not > > > > discriminatory. I know all of your other > arguments, while > > compelling, it > > > > is hard to get over Ins Com approval. So, plan > of attack is to see how > > > > they enforced exclusion- some paid for and > some not? Our best > > argument. > > > > I will file Complaint with FL Insurance > Commissioner, they will then > > > > investigate payment trend. Thanks for your > help. I am mad and I will > > > > pursue suit as it is a matter of principal. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Start a new hobby. Meet a new friend. > http://www.ONElist.com > ONElist: The leading provider of free e-mail list > services! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at > Onelist.com > _________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 1999 Report Share Posted April 7, 1999 I haven't heard my insurance company's response yet (I doubt there is one at this point), but you can include my name, too. Sincerely, Delisa Mulkey Assistant Director of Member Services - Data Processing dmulkey@... " Sanity's just a one-trick pony - all you get is reason. But when you're good and crazy, the sky's the limit! " ~The Tick new date > > > > > > > > > I will sue after. A strong argument BCBSFL has is that the FL > Insurance > > > Commissioner reviews every part of their policy before they > are allowed > > > to sell product. Ins Com approved my policy so implicit it is not > > > discriminatory. I know all of your other arguments, while > compelling, it > > > is hard to get over Ins Com approval. So, plan of attack is to see how > > > they enforced exclusion- some paid for and some not? Our best > argument. > > > I will file Complaint with FL Insurance Commissioner, they will then > > > investigate payment trend. Thanks for your help. I am mad and I will > > > pursue suit as it is a matter of principal. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Start a new hobby. Meet a new friend. http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: The leading provider of free e-mail list services! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 1999 Report Share Posted April 7, 1999 How very exciting....and needed...by the way...anyone been successful with NC State Employees and Teachers Major Medical Plan???.....that's who I'll be dealing with... Cara ---------- > > To: MiniGastricBypassonelist > Subject: FW: new date > Date: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 4:06 PM > > > > Hello to all, > > One of our patients is a lawyer who has mentioned the possibility of > starting a class action law suit against insurance companies under the > Americans with Disabilities Act. > > We will need people who want to join. See Below... > > This is like when the smokers went after the Tobacco Companies. > > Can you help? > > Rutledge, M.D., F.A.C.S. > The Center for Laparoscopic Obesity Surgery > Regional Surgical Associates, P.A. > 4301 Ben lin Blvd. > P. O. Box 15698 > Durham, North Carolina 27704 > Telephone #: > Fax #: > E mail: Dr_Rutledge@... (Note: > There is an “_” between the Dr and Rutledge:) > Web site: http://clos.net > Durham Regional Hospital #: > > > > new date > > > > > > > > > > > > I will sue after. A strong argument BCBSFL has is that the FL > > Insurance > > > > Commissioner reviews every part of their policy before they > > are allowed > > > > to sell product. Ins Com approved my policy so implicit it is not > > > > discriminatory. I know all of your other arguments, while > > compelling, it > > > > is hard to get over Ins Com approval. So, plan of attack is to see how > > > > they enforced exclusion- some paid for and some not? Our best > > argument. > > > > I will file Complaint with FL Insurance Commissioner, they will then > > > > investigate payment trend. Thanks for your help. I am mad and I will > > > > pursue suit as it is a matter of principal. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Start a new hobby. Meet a new friend. > http://www.ONElist.com > ONElist: The leading provider of free e-mail list services! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 1999 Report Share Posted April 7, 1999 Cara, I have NC BC/BS Teacher's Major Medical. They had no problem approving my surgery. Matter of fact, it was approved before I even knew it had been filed. I don't think it took longer than three weeks. I saw Dr. Rutledge on Jan. 31 and received a call on Feb. 22 that it was approved. I was truly blessed!! Rigsbee new date >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > I will sue after. A strong argument BCBSFL has is that the FL >> > Insurance >> > > > Commissioner reviews every part of their policy before they >> > are allowed >> > > > to sell product. Ins Com approved my policy so implicit it is not >> > > > discriminatory. I know all of your other arguments, while >> > compelling, it >> > > > is hard to get over Ins Com approval. So, plan of attack is to see >how >> > > > they enforced exclusion- some paid for and some not? Our best >> > argument. >> > > > I will file Complaint with FL Insurance Commissioner, they will >then >> > > > investigate payment trend. Thanks for your help. I am mad and I >will >> > > > pursue suit as it is a matter of principal. >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Start a new hobby. Meet a new friend. >> http://www.ONElist.com >> ONElist: The leading provider of free e-mail list services! >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >HOW YA FEELIN'? Find out with your free Personal Health Report. > It's easy, it's fun, it's confidential and it's free. > http://www.onelist.com/ad/ivillage1 >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 1999 Report Share Posted April 7, 1999 Cara, I have NC BC/BS Teacher's Major Medical. They had no problem approving my surgery. Matter of fact, it was approved before I even knew it had been filed. I don't think it took longer than three weeks. I saw Dr. Rutledge on Jan. 31 and received a call on Feb. 22 that it was approved. I was truly blessed!! Rigsbee new date >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > I will sue after. A strong argument BCBSFL has is that the FL >> > Insurance >> > > > Commissioner reviews every part of their policy before they >> > are allowed >> > > > to sell product. Ins Com approved my policy so implicit it is not >> > > > discriminatory. I know all of your other arguments, while >> > compelling, it >> > > > is hard to get over Ins Com approval. So, plan of attack is to see >how >> > > > they enforced exclusion- some paid for and some not? Our best >> > argument. >> > > > I will file Complaint with FL Insurance Commissioner, they will >then >> > > > investigate payment trend. Thanks for your help. I am mad and I >will >> > > > pursue suit as it is a matter of principal. >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Start a new hobby. Meet a new friend. >> http://www.ONElist.com >> ONElist: The leading provider of free e-mail list services! >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >HOW YA FEELIN'? Find out with your free Personal Health Report. > It's easy, it's fun, it's confidential and it's free. > http://www.onelist.com/ad/ivillage1 >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 1999 Report Share Posted April 8, 1999 In a message dated 4/7/1999 3:04:15 PM Central Daylight Time, Dr_Rutledge@... writes: << Hello to all, One of our patients is a lawyer who has mentioned the possibility of starting a class action law suit against insurance companies under the Americans with Disabilities Act. >> I'm hoping to get surgery in the summer. I next month I will see if the insurance company gives me any flack. I would like to join the lawsuit if they do give me trouble. Also, if they don't give me trouble, I would be willing to help out by rounding up Texas people for the suit. I am also in contact with 20/20 who are considering doing a story (keep your fingers crossed) not just on the weight loss surgery but the plight to get the surgery...this might be a nice tie in. Please contact me tarapfs@... Tara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 1999 Report Share Posted April 8, 1999 In a message dated 4/7/1999 3:04:15 PM Central Daylight Time, Dr_Rutledge@... writes: << Hello to all, One of our patients is a lawyer who has mentioned the possibility of starting a class action law suit against insurance companies under the Americans with Disabilities Act. >> I'm hoping to get surgery in the summer. I next month I will see if the insurance company gives me any flack. I would like to join the lawsuit if they do give me trouble. Also, if they don't give me trouble, I would be willing to help out by rounding up Texas people for the suit. I am also in contact with 20/20 who are considering doing a story (keep your fingers crossed) not just on the weight loss surgery but the plight to get the surgery...this might be a nice tie in. Please contact me tarapfs@... Tara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 1999 Report Share Posted April 8, 1999 In a message dated 4/7/1999 3:04:15 PM Central Daylight Time, Dr_Rutledge@... writes: << Hello to all, One of our patients is a lawyer who has mentioned the possibility of starting a class action law suit against insurance companies under the Americans with Disabilities Act. >> I'm hoping to get surgery in the summer. I next month I will see if the insurance company gives me any flack. I would like to join the lawsuit if they do give me trouble. Also, if they don't give me trouble, I would be willing to help out by rounding up Texas people for the suit. I am also in contact with 20/20 who are considering doing a story (keep your fingers crossed) not just on the weight loss surgery but the plight to get the surgery...this might be a nice tie in. Please contact me tarapfs@... Tara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 1999 Report Share Posted April 8, 1999 In a message dated 4/8/1999 6:34:35 PM Central Daylight Time, eppler@... writes: << Do you live in Texas? >> I live in Kempner...by Killeen! Almost neighbors...well, in a large Texas sort of way!! Tara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 1999 Report Share Posted April 8, 1999 In a message dated 4/8/1999 6:34:35 PM Central Daylight Time, eppler@... writes: << Do you live in Texas? >> I live in Kempner...by Killeen! Almost neighbors...well, in a large Texas sort of way!! Tara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 1999 Report Share Posted April 11, 1999 See end of message. Pat Eppler > new date > > > > > > > > > > > > I will sue after. A strong argument BCBSFL has is that the FL > > Insurance > > > > Commissioner reviews every part of their policy before they > > are allowed > > > > to sell product. Ins Com approved my policy so implicit it is not > > > > discriminatory. I know all of your other arguments, while > > compelling, it > > > > is hard to get over Ins Com approval. So, plan of attack is > to see how > > > > they enforced exclusion- some paid for and some not? Our best > > argument. > > > > I will file Complaint with FL Insurance Commissioner, they will then > > > > investigate payment trend. Thanks for your help. I am mad and I will > > > > pursue suit as it is a matter of principal. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Start a new hobby. Meet a new friend. > http://www.ONElist.com > ONElist: The leading provider of free e-mail list services! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com > From Pat Eppler: My insurance company, Heritage Health Plans, gave me the same answer when I talked with them Friday--that they had to run their plans by the Insurance Board in Texas and therefore felt that they were legal in all aspects. I am ready to join any group ready to try to remedy this unfair descrimination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 1999 Report Share Posted April 11, 1999 See end of message. Pat Eppler > new date > > > > > > > > > > > > I will sue after. A strong argument BCBSFL has is that the FL > > Insurance > > > > Commissioner reviews every part of their policy before they > > are allowed > > > > to sell product. Ins Com approved my policy so implicit it is not > > > > discriminatory. I know all of your other arguments, while > > compelling, it > > > > is hard to get over Ins Com approval. So, plan of attack is > to see how > > > > they enforced exclusion- some paid for and some not? Our best > > argument. > > > > I will file Complaint with FL Insurance Commissioner, they will then > > > > investigate payment trend. Thanks for your help. I am mad and I will > > > > pursue suit as it is a matter of principal. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Start a new hobby. Meet a new friend. > http://www.ONElist.com > ONElist: The leading provider of free e-mail list services! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass List at Onelist.com > From Pat Eppler: My insurance company, Heritage Health Plans, gave me the same answer when I talked with them Friday--that they had to run their plans by the Insurance Board in Texas and therefore felt that they were legal in all aspects. I am ready to join any group ready to try to remedy this unfair descrimination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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