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In a message dated 11/16/2001 7:25:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,

cindysue@... writes:

> I'm just repeating what the person who presented said.

Did you go to a workshop in Northern VA? Tell me which one. My boss

travels around VA doing waiver workshops and has trained the current batch of

mentors that are presenting workshops now.

>

> <<Are you sure about that? I didn't think the MR covered all that (like

> CD-PAS). It will not pay for pre-vocational, but you can slide that in

> under supportive employment. I have a really good packet full of the nots

> and bolts of the 6 medicaid waiver programs here in VA.>>

I am positive, the MR waiver just underwent some new changes, including

consumer choice. It is almost as comprehensiver as the DD waiver now. And

the new services for the MR waiver are to start immediately! If you have a

packet from one of the workshops given last year or this year, I probably

helped put it together!

I can send you a matrix of all the waivers and the services provided under

each one if you like.

> >

> > The financial thresholds for Waivers in VA are this:

> > 300% of SSI payment limit for one person ($1,590 per month), $2,000.00

> > resource limit, Parental income does not count, regardless of child's age.

>

> I have a concern about this. Tim retires at age 50 and he can collect SS

> earlier than most people . 's SS Dependent check may exceed

> 1590/month.

>

> Remember, waivers are for poor people, medicaid eligible. Usually SSDI

for

social security dependents is no more than 751.00 or 791.00, I can't

> remember which. Unless there is a difference for minor children still in

> school. I am not surprised to hear Tim can retire at age 50 but very

> surprised he can collect social security at that age. My husband can also

> retire at age 50 but cannot collect SS until age 62. If Tim is a federal

> employee, would he even be getting SS? When I worked for the government,

> we had a separate retirement plan, not part of SS. So does both of my

> parents, retired civil servants. Air traffic controllers used to be

> government employees, I know because I worked for OPM and maintained the

> job register for those jobs! ;-)

>

> Cheryl in VA

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In a message dated 11/16/2001 7:25:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,

cindysue@... writes:

> I'm just repeating what the person who presented said.

Did you go to a workshop in Northern VA? Tell me which one. My boss

travels around VA doing waiver workshops and has trained the current batch of

mentors that are presenting workshops now.

>

> <<Are you sure about that? I didn't think the MR covered all that (like

> CD-PAS). It will not pay for pre-vocational, but you can slide that in

> under supportive employment. I have a really good packet full of the nots

> and bolts of the 6 medicaid waiver programs here in VA.>>

I am positive, the MR waiver just underwent some new changes, including

consumer choice. It is almost as comprehensiver as the DD waiver now. And

the new services for the MR waiver are to start immediately! If you have a

packet from one of the workshops given last year or this year, I probably

helped put it together!

I can send you a matrix of all the waivers and the services provided under

each one if you like.

> >

> > The financial thresholds for Waivers in VA are this:

> > 300% of SSI payment limit for one person ($1,590 per month), $2,000.00

> > resource limit, Parental income does not count, regardless of child's age.

>

> I have a concern about this. Tim retires at age 50 and he can collect SS

> earlier than most people . 's SS Dependent check may exceed

> 1590/month.

>

> Remember, waivers are for poor people, medicaid eligible. Usually SSDI

for

social security dependents is no more than 751.00 or 791.00, I can't

> remember which. Unless there is a difference for minor children still in

> school. I am not surprised to hear Tim can retire at age 50 but very

> surprised he can collect social security at that age. My husband can also

> retire at age 50 but cannot collect SS until age 62. If Tim is a federal

> employee, would he even be getting SS? When I worked for the government,

> we had a separate retirement plan, not part of SS. So does both of my

> parents, retired civil servants. Air traffic controllers used to be

> government employees, I know because I worked for OPM and maintained the

> job register for those jobs! ;-)

>

> Cheryl in VA

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In a message dated 11/17/2001 7:21:09 AM Eastern Standard Time,

cindysue@... writes:

> I have the matrix, too..that is part of the packet. There is a title on the

> folder but the title slips my memory right now.

If it says " Making Community Living a Reality " on the title page it is

from our office.

> I really want to have the DD waiver instead. I like the family

> component. Is a psychological required just to be on a waiting list? I'll

> have to pay out of pocket for the psychological..I won't let the school

> test my baby!

If you have any records with a diagnosis of MR, he will not be eligible for

the DD waiver. This includes school records. You can try and hide info but

if caught, big trouble. When you are called for a screening, they will look

at supporting documentation and go through a Level of Functioning survey. You

could apply for a DD waiver, get called in for screening at health department

and the screener would probably redirect you to MR waiver if anything points

to MR involvement.

>

> I may have gotten the higher figure from some SS paperwork that comes

> yearly..that may be the max amount paid to all the kids under age 18...I'm

> not sure. I'll have to find out. Tim is under the new federal retirement

> system..it kicked in right before he started. He said he thought ATC's,

> federal firemen and federal police officers are eligible to collect early.

> His friend Bill was under the old retirement system. When he died, his

> wife and 5 children were left with very little.

I left OPM a month after Stef was born so many changes could have occurred

since then. For most people on SS, you cannot collect anything before age

62. Widows do not get benefits until they become old enough to retire (62)

Minor children will get the SSDI until they finish school or reach a certain

age. There is an allowance for them to receive the funds while they are

attending college too! And it is a per child amount. Bill's wife should be

receiving SSDI checks for each of the five children but she will get nothing

for being a widow if he was on SS. I have no idea how the federal retirement

system differs or if, as you say, some of them are on SS instead of the

federal system. I know my parents had the option of choosing spouse survivor

benefits when they retired. If they choose that, their monthly income is

reduced.

Cheryl in VA

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In a message dated 11/17/2001 7:21:09 AM Eastern Standard Time,

cindysue@... writes:

> I have the matrix, too..that is part of the packet. There is a title on the

> folder but the title slips my memory right now.

If it says " Making Community Living a Reality " on the title page it is

from our office.

> I really want to have the DD waiver instead. I like the family

> component. Is a psychological required just to be on a waiting list? I'll

> have to pay out of pocket for the psychological..I won't let the school

> test my baby!

If you have any records with a diagnosis of MR, he will not be eligible for

the DD waiver. This includes school records. You can try and hide info but

if caught, big trouble. When you are called for a screening, they will look

at supporting documentation and go through a Level of Functioning survey. You

could apply for a DD waiver, get called in for screening at health department

and the screener would probably redirect you to MR waiver if anything points

to MR involvement.

>

> I may have gotten the higher figure from some SS paperwork that comes

> yearly..that may be the max amount paid to all the kids under age 18...I'm

> not sure. I'll have to find out. Tim is under the new federal retirement

> system..it kicked in right before he started. He said he thought ATC's,

> federal firemen and federal police officers are eligible to collect early.

> His friend Bill was under the old retirement system. When he died, his

> wife and 5 children were left with very little.

I left OPM a month after Stef was born so many changes could have occurred

since then. For most people on SS, you cannot collect anything before age

62. Widows do not get benefits until they become old enough to retire (62)

Minor children will get the SSDI until they finish school or reach a certain

age. There is an allowance for them to receive the funds while they are

attending college too! And it is a per child amount. Bill's wife should be

receiving SSDI checks for each of the five children but she will get nothing

for being a widow if he was on SS. I have no idea how the federal retirement

system differs or if, as you say, some of them are on SS instead of the

federal system. I know my parents had the option of choosing spouse survivor

benefits when they retired. If they choose that, their monthly income is

reduced.

Cheryl in VA

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>

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>

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Cheryl,

I have the matrix, too..that is part of the packet. There is a title on the

folder but the title slips my memory right now. Maybe you did put it together.

I have questions...the trainer is to email me. Maybe you can answer them. I

really want to have the DD waiver instead. I like the family component.

Is a psychological required just to be on a waiting list? I'll have to pay out

of pocket for the psychological..I won't let the school test my baby!

Now for the DD waiver, it it a psychological that is needed or just a statement

from a psychologist (or doctor) that defines the DD (I forget the

wording..something about functioning below average).

I am positive, the MR waiver just underwent some new changes, including

consumer choice. It is almost as comprehensiver as the DD waiver now.

Yes, what a wonderful change!

I may have gotten the higher figure from some SS paperwork that comes

yearly..that may be the max amount paid to all the kids under age 18...I'm not

sure. I'll have to find out. Tim is under the new federal retirement

system..it kicked in right before he started. He said he thought ATC's, federal

firemen and federal police officers are eligible to collect early. His friend

Bill was under the old retirement system. When he died, his wife and 5 children

were left with very little.

We must likely will not even live in VA when Tim retires. However, I really

feel that will need waiver services (not much!) soon.

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Cheryl,

I have the matrix, too..that is part of the packet. There is a title on the

folder but the title slips my memory right now. Maybe you did put it together.

I have questions...the trainer is to email me. Maybe you can answer them. I

really want to have the DD waiver instead. I like the family component.

Is a psychological required just to be on a waiting list? I'll have to pay out

of pocket for the psychological..I won't let the school test my baby!

Now for the DD waiver, it it a psychological that is needed or just a statement

from a psychologist (or doctor) that defines the DD (I forget the

wording..something about functioning below average).

I am positive, the MR waiver just underwent some new changes, including

consumer choice. It is almost as comprehensiver as the DD waiver now.

Yes, what a wonderful change!

I may have gotten the higher figure from some SS paperwork that comes

yearly..that may be the max amount paid to all the kids under age 18...I'm not

sure. I'll have to find out. Tim is under the new federal retirement

system..it kicked in right before he started. He said he thought ATC's, federal

firemen and federal police officers are eligible to collect early. His friend

Bill was under the old retirement system. When he died, his wife and 5 children

were left with very little.

We must likely will not even live in VA when Tim retires. However, I really

feel that will need waiver services (not much!) soon.

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we went to a family support place.... we used arc....but there are other places

too... different in each state....they did all the paper work....i am told that

you can do the paper work yourself but if it isn't EXACTELY right it is

rejected... there are also state waiver offices that do intake.... maybe they

will give out packs of info...not sure though... the birth to 3 place should be

able to tell you where you can get packets and help to fill out and turn in to

state... i think the official name of state waiver is title 19 but not sure....

it is in roman numerals....those things still blow my mind unless i sit down a

write them down from beginning to whatever # i'm looking at!!! LOL!!!! neva

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