Outpatient, PT/PTA ratio, assessment/progress notes and certifications

[Guest guest]

Hello all,

I am requesting groups opinion on an important matter. We are an out patient

clinic and we have a team system with each team having two PTAs and one PT.

My first question is does such a team structure justifies extra amount of

administrative time for PT ?

Second question is regarding assessments for progress notes and certifications.

For continued therapy is it okay to have PTAs do assessments/measurements/data

and have PTs use their assessments/measurements/data for completing

certifications, progress notes ? Are PTAs allowed to do assessments ?

Or

Is it necessary for PTs to do assessments/measurements/data on their own to

complete the progress note/certifications.

Thanks

Nat

MI

[Guest guest]

Good Morning,

These questions would best be answered by a fellow clinician within your state.

Medicare Part B requires for every tenth visit by a PTA, a PT needs to see the

patient.

As far as ratios and assessments, I would first start with perusing your

state's practice act.

In a past life, I supervised care as a Regional in five states, and had practice

acts for each to determine good business.

I would also recommend contacting your State APTA Chapter.

Happy Holidays to all....

E. Lynn MS PT

Director of Rehabilitation

Marlton Rehabilitation Hospital

92 Brick Rd.

Marlton, NJ 08055

ext 4204

From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of

nits_physio

Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 7:43 PM

To: PTManager

Subject: Outpatient, PT/PTA ratio, assessment/progress notes and

certifications

Hello all,

I am requesting groups opinion on an important matter. We are an out patient

clinic and we have a team system with each team having two PTAs and one PT.

My first question is does such a team structure justifies extra amount of

administrative time for PT ?

Second question is regarding assessments for progress notes and certifications.

For continued therapy is it okay to have PTAs do assessments/measurements/data

and have PTs use their assessments/measurements/data for completing

certifications, progress notes ? Are PTAs allowed to do assessments ?

Or

Is it necessary for PTs to do assessments/measurements/data on their own to

complete the progress note/certifications.

Thanks

Nat

MI

[Guest guest]

Good Morning,

These questions would best be answered by a fellow clinician within your state.

Medicare Part B requires for every tenth visit by a PTA, a PT needs to see the

patient.

As far as ratios and assessments, I would first start with perusing your

state's practice act.

In a past life, I supervised care as a Regional in five states, and had practice

acts for each to determine good business.

I would also recommend contacting your State APTA Chapter.

Happy Holidays to all....

E. Lynn MS PT

Director of Rehabilitation

Marlton Rehabilitation Hospital

92 Brick Rd.

Marlton, NJ 08055

ext 4204

From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of

nits_physio

Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 7:43 PM

To: PTManager

Subject: Outpatient, PT/PTA ratio, assessment/progress notes and

certifications

Hello all,

I am requesting groups opinion on an important matter. We are an out patient

clinic and we have a team system with each team having two PTAs and one PT.

My first question is does such a team structure justifies extra amount of

administrative time for PT ?

Second question is regarding assessments for progress notes and certifications.

For continued therapy is it okay to have PTAs do assessments/measurements/data

and have PTs use their assessments/measurements/data for completing

certifications, progress notes ? Are PTAs allowed to do assessments ?

Or

Is it necessary for PTs to do assessments/measurements/data on their own to

complete the progress note/certifications.

Thanks

Nat

MI