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In a message dated 7/19/2004 9:34:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

michelledg33@... writes:

I was then

going to run a poll and ask about anthrax. I had the shots going to

Desert Storm and started upchucking daily soon after. Still do

Oh my gosh my daughter who just graduated from college is starting to work in

the only lab in the world that makes the Anthrax vaccine. As if I don't have

enough to worry about with my CHARGE'r. E GADS

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Carolyn-

Ok, I know nothing about what your husband is going through -- but, my

goodness, am I worried for you!! Thankfully, everyone else in our

family is healthy. If I had to deal with more than one set of problems,

I'd surely go insane. I hope he gets his stuff figured out soon. It

worries me that he seems to be in such denial. That isn't going to help

any of you. I can understand his denial, but it's still troubling.

Good luck to you all-

Hugs-

Michele w

mom to Aubrie (6 rys )CHaRgE and (12 yrs) wife to DJ

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Carolyn-

Ok, I know nothing about what your husband is going through -- but, my

goodness, am I worried for you!! Thankfully, everyone else in our

family is healthy. If I had to deal with more than one set of problems,

I'd surely go insane. I hope he gets his stuff figured out soon. It

worries me that he seems to be in such denial. That isn't going to help

any of you. I can understand his denial, but it's still troubling.

Good luck to you all-

Hugs-

Michele w

mom to Aubrie (6 rys )CHaRgE and (12 yrs) wife to DJ

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Carolyn-

Ok, I know nothing about what your husband is going through -- but, my

goodness, am I worried for you!! Thankfully, everyone else in our

family is healthy. If I had to deal with more than one set of problems,

I'd surely go insane. I hope he gets his stuff figured out soon. It

worries me that he seems to be in such denial. That isn't going to help

any of you. I can understand his denial, but it's still troubling.

Good luck to you all-

Hugs-

Michele w

mom to Aubrie (6 rys )CHaRgE and (12 yrs) wife to DJ

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You may think I am crazy, but have your husband ask to see a

dermatologist. Then inquire about Erythema Nervosa/Nervosum. It is a

skin thing that causes what I call lumps, bruising and chest pains. I

ran a poll asking about parents being in the military. I was then

going to run a poll and ask about anthrax. I had the shots going to

Desert Storm and started upchucking daily soon after. Still do. I

also tire easily. I was eventually going to ask about CHARGE and its

association to anthrax. A shot in the dark, who knows. I am not

looking for blame, just maybe a piece of the CHARGE puzzle. Thats my

2 cents. One other thing....Diane if you really want your husband

home I am still connected and will help you make it happen. EFM is

not a bad thing for families who rate it and your family rates it big

time!

Randy, Garlands Poppy

-- In CHARGE , messiegracie@a... wrote:

> This is basically a non charge question about my husband. He has a

yet

> undiagnosed heart condition that has the cardiologist wracking his

brain to come up

> for an answer for us and a diagnosis/treatment. Just recently

(last 2 weeks)

> he has had a bruise come up on the left side below his ribs and a

knot under

> the skin. In addition to this, he has been vomiting as well and

there is

> usually a tinge of red. Not vomiting what he ate, but what looks

like the foam

> wall insulation in the can stuff.

>

> The answer to the obvious question is NO he did not tell his

cardiologist

> this last week at the appointment and NO he will not go get it

checked out. He

> told me last night, he doesn't want to know. He hasn't felt well

in quite a

> while. He has chest pains and tachycardia, higher blood pressure

and cannot

> play with even our 2 year old because he wears out so quickly and

hurts so bad.

> In addition to this, he has continuous migraines. Just last night,

he told me

> he's been vomiting for over 2-3 months now, almost daily. I so

much want to

> call his cardiologist and say, physical and who knows what please,

but won't

> do that to my husband. His aunt has stomach cancer and it has been

malignant

> so far.

>

> I just don't know what to do. Up til now, I've had Tanis to worry

about and

> to worry about because of his heart. Now has multiple

symptoms.

> He is going to help with the CHARGE research though--for his son's

sake. I

> don't know if they test the parents, but if I get a phone call

about him, I

> honestly would not be surprised. I didn't go to this month's

appointment because

> right now we have all 4 of his boys (3 months, 2, 6 and 9). I WILL

go to the

> next one. can't even tell you his entire

condition/symptoms. He relies

> on me for that, too. I may ask his cardiologist about genetics

testing for

> Chris. Now that we have been given a " label " for Tanis, we have

some answers to

> many of our questions. has some of the same problems Tanis

has

> physically so who knows that may be daddy's problem too. At least

with a genetics

> test, we can rule somethings out.

>

> Thank you for letting me unload. Don't want to call family because

they will

> " freak " and not listen. Any suggestions you have would be very

helpful.

>

> Oh, also, Tanis had his hearing test (first referral so far, many

more to

> come) on Friday. The audiologist was able to do one set of the

pitches, but

> Tanis doesn't sit still longer than 5-7 minutes. She will repeat

the entire test

> in 3 months (maybe I can work with him to get him to sit still

longer). His

> left ear response was all 3 pitches. She did 3 tests: the booth,

the one they

> do on newborns with the air and another one for testing the ear

itself

> (tympanogram or something I think). His right ear showed 2 pitches

in all of the

> tests. I know the one he didn't respond to was the lowered voice

and the

> highest pitch. She referred him to speech and language evaluation

in addition to

> his already developmental delay eval. So, we are on the merry go

round.

>

> Thanks for your ears,

> Carolyn

> Mother of Tanis 2 CHARGE and Denny 3 months

>

>

>

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If your daughter is in the ONLY lab in the world, she is probably

in the safest lab as well! I am curious though if there might be a

connection to CHARGE and the Gulf War stuff. I spent 2 weeks in the

hospital back in 93 while every test in the world was ran on me and

they did not diagnose my problem as a result of anthrax. Just seems

coincidental. I have watched this board for a long time now and have

read about genes and chromosomes and lots of other possiblities as to

a reason for CHARGE. Just curious as to who else might have the same

question as me. Your daughter will be OK.

Randy

- In CHARGE , KAV427@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 7/19/2004 9:34:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> michelledg33@y... writes:

> I was then

> going to run a poll and ask about anthrax. I had the shots going

to

> Desert Storm and started upchucking daily soon after. Still do

> Oh my gosh my daughter who just graduated from college is starting

to work in

> the only lab in the world that makes the Anthrax vaccine. As if I

don't have

> enough to worry about with my CHARGE'r. E GADS

>

>

>

>

>

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If your daughter is in the ONLY lab in the world, she is probably

in the safest lab as well! I am curious though if there might be a

connection to CHARGE and the Gulf War stuff. I spent 2 weeks in the

hospital back in 93 while every test in the world was ran on me and

they did not diagnose my problem as a result of anthrax. Just seems

coincidental. I have watched this board for a long time now and have

read about genes and chromosomes and lots of other possiblities as to

a reason for CHARGE. Just curious as to who else might have the same

question as me. Your daughter will be OK.

Randy

- In CHARGE , KAV427@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 7/19/2004 9:34:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> michelledg33@y... writes:

> I was then

> going to run a poll and ask about anthrax. I had the shots going

to

> Desert Storm and started upchucking daily soon after. Still do

> Oh my gosh my daughter who just graduated from college is starting

to work in

> the only lab in the world that makes the Anthrax vaccine. As if I

don't have

> enough to worry about with my CHARGE'r. E GADS

>

>

>

>

>

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Meg has posted a marvelous answer as to why CHARGE is currently believed to

be genetic and not due to teratogens; anthrax or any other. You might want

to search the archive under sent by Meg Hefner or under the topic of

genetics.

At the same time she acknowledges the complexity and how teratogens in

combination of genes can complicate understanding the origin of syndromes.

Many of us question exposures, but there is no one thing that all of us are

exposed to.

My father was in the air force in the early 50's, but we have had no

military exposure since.

Kim L

> --

> If your daughter is in the ONLY lab in the world, she is probably

> in the safest lab as well! I am curious though if there might be a

> connection to CHARGE and the Gulf War stuff. I spent 2 weeks in the

> hospital back in 93 while every test in the world was ran on me and

> they did not diagnose my problem as a result of anthrax. Just seems

> coincidental. I have watched this board for a long time now and have

> read about genes and chromosomes and lots of other possiblities as to

> a reason for CHARGE. Just curious as to who else might have the same

> question as me. Your daughter will be OK.

>

> Randy

>

>

>

>

> - In CHARGE , KAV427@a... wrote:

>> In a message dated 7/19/2004 9:34:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

>> michelledg33@y... writes:

>> I was then

>> going to run a poll and ask about anthrax. I had the shots going

> to

>> Desert Storm and started upchucking daily soon after. Still do

>> Oh my gosh my daughter who just graduated from college is starting

> to work in

>> the only lab in the world that makes the Anthrax vaccine. As if I

> don't have

>> enough to worry about with my CHARGE'r. E GADS

>>

>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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Meg has posted a marvelous answer as to why CHARGE is currently believed to

be genetic and not due to teratogens; anthrax or any other. You might want

to search the archive under sent by Meg Hefner or under the topic of

genetics.

At the same time she acknowledges the complexity and how teratogens in

combination of genes can complicate understanding the origin of syndromes.

Many of us question exposures, but there is no one thing that all of us are

exposed to.

My father was in the air force in the early 50's, but we have had no

military exposure since.

Kim L

> --

> If your daughter is in the ONLY lab in the world, she is probably

> in the safest lab as well! I am curious though if there might be a

> connection to CHARGE and the Gulf War stuff. I spent 2 weeks in the

> hospital back in 93 while every test in the world was ran on me and

> they did not diagnose my problem as a result of anthrax. Just seems

> coincidental. I have watched this board for a long time now and have

> read about genes and chromosomes and lots of other possiblities as to

> a reason for CHARGE. Just curious as to who else might have the same

> question as me. Your daughter will be OK.

>

> Randy

>

>

>

>

> - In CHARGE , KAV427@a... wrote:

>> In a message dated 7/19/2004 9:34:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

>> michelledg33@y... writes:

>> I was then

>> going to run a poll and ask about anthrax. I had the shots going

> to

>> Desert Storm and started upchucking daily soon after. Still do

>> Oh my gosh my daughter who just graduated from college is starting

> to work in

>> the only lab in the world that makes the Anthrax vaccine. As if I

> don't have

>> enough to worry about with my CHARGE'r. E GADS

>>

>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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Kim, First I will says thanks for the info and saving me time digging

through the archives. You are a very knowledgeable person when it

comes to CHARGE and have unknowingly given me an education on it.

Thank you again. Like I said, I am not looking for blame just

answers. Either way I would not trade my little guy for nothing in

the world. Sorry to hear about all of your delays. One thing I have

come to grips with is that everything is for a reason. And oh yeah,

you cant have your patience right now! Once again Thanks

Randy, Garlands Poppy

- In CHARGE , Kim Lauger <klauger@e...> wrote:

> Meg has posted a marvelous answer as to why CHARGE is currently

believed to

> be genetic and not due to teratogens; anthrax or any other. You

might want

> to search the archive under sent by Meg Hefner or under the topic of

> genetics.

>

> At the same time she acknowledges the complexity and how teratogens

in

> combination of genes can complicate understanding the origin of

syndromes.

> Many of us question exposures, but there is no one thing that all

of us are

> exposed to.

>

> My father was in the air force in the early 50's, but we have had no

> military exposure since.

>

> Kim L

>

>

>

> On 7/19/04 8:00 PM, " Goodwin " <michelledg33@y...> wrote:

>

> > --

> > If your daughter is in the ONLY lab in the world, she is

probably

> > in the safest lab as well! I am curious though if there might be

a

> > connection to CHARGE and the Gulf War stuff. I spent 2 weeks in

the

> > hospital back in 93 while every test in the world was ran on me

and

> > they did not diagnose my problem as a result of anthrax. Just

seems

> > coincidental. I have watched this board for a long time now and

have

> > read about genes and chromosomes and lots of other possiblities

as to

> > a reason for CHARGE. Just curious as to who else might have the

same

> > question as me. Your daughter will be OK.

> >

> > Randy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > - In CHARGE , KAV427@a... wrote:

> >> In a message dated 7/19/2004 9:34:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> >> michelledg33@y... writes:

> >> I was then

> >> going to run a poll and ask about anthrax. I had the shots going

> > to

> >> Desert Storm and started upchucking daily soon after. Still do

> >> Oh my gosh my daughter who just graduated from college is

starting

> > to work in

> >> the only lab in the world that makes the Anthrax vaccine. As if I

> > don't have

> >> enough to worry about with my CHARGE'r. E GADS

> >>

> >

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

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We don't have any ties to the military so anthrax and other chemicals

are not a concern for us. But my husband does work with explosives and

those chemicals get on his skin etc. I don't know of any harm that they

cause expect for nitro headaches. Just my 2 cents. It seems that

CHARGE is truly a random occurence. We've all talked this through so

many times and have never found any one thing that we all have in

common. Perhaps birth defects, autism, etc is not due to just one thing

but rather a multitude of things in just the right sequence or at just

the right time or in just the right combination. I'm getting

comfortable with the idea that we may never know. Although I'd love it

if we did find out more about the gene itself and then how it occurs.

Michele W

mom to aubrie 6 yrs CHaRgE and 12 yrs wife to DJ

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We don't have any ties to the military so anthrax and other chemicals

are not a concern for us. But my husband does work with explosives and

those chemicals get on his skin etc. I don't know of any harm that they

cause expect for nitro headaches. Just my 2 cents. It seems that

CHARGE is truly a random occurence. We've all talked this through so

many times and have never found any one thing that we all have in

common. Perhaps birth defects, autism, etc is not due to just one thing

but rather a multitude of things in just the right sequence or at just

the right time or in just the right combination. I'm getting

comfortable with the idea that we may never know. Although I'd love it

if we did find out more about the gene itself and then how it occurs.

Michele W

mom to aubrie 6 yrs CHaRgE and 12 yrs wife to DJ

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Just to pipe in my ten cents here.

I grew up in the Pacific Northwest out in the wilderness and several of my

friends have had children with very random, strange birth defects. When I

was a kid they sprayed a lot of DDT along the roads as a pesticide and I

have often thought about how that might be involved. I believe there are

three of us, all the same age, from within about a 3 square mile area that

have had weird stuff happen. There is a club foot and two different skull

abnormalities and then with Charge... I guess that's four of us. There

are others that are yet to have babies from where I grew up. I guess we'll

see if there are any more.

I really have no idea how it might be involved but would be interested in

any other chemical exposure stories.

Bo , 2.

_____

From: Michele Westmaas

Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 9:27 PM

To: CHARGE

Subject: Re: Re: HELP with HUSBAND

We don't have any ties to the military so anthrax and other chemicals

are not a concern for us. But my husband does work with explosives and

those chemicals get on his skin etc. I don't know of any harm that they

cause expect for nitro headaches. Just my 2 cents. It seems that

CHARGE is truly a random occurence. We've all talked this through so

many times and have never found any one thing that we all have in

common. Perhaps birth defects, autism, etc is not due to just one thing

but rather a multitude of things in just the right sequence or at just

the right time or in just the right combination. I'm getting

comfortable with the idea that we may never know. Although I'd love it

if we did find out more about the gene itself and then how it occurs.

Michele W

mom to aubrie 6 yrs CHaRgE and 12 yrs wife to DJ

Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in

the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation.

For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter)

please contact marion@... or visit

the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation web page

at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

7th International

CHARGE Syndrome Conference, Miami Beach, Florida, July 22-24, 2005.

Information will be available at our website

www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. In Canada, you may

contact CHARGE Syndrome Canada at 1- (families), visit

www.chargesyndrome.ca, or email info@.... Thank you!

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Just to pipe in my ten cents here.

I grew up in the Pacific Northwest out in the wilderness and several of my

friends have had children with very random, strange birth defects. When I

was a kid they sprayed a lot of DDT along the roads as a pesticide and I

have often thought about how that might be involved. I believe there are

three of us, all the same age, from within about a 3 square mile area that

have had weird stuff happen. There is a club foot and two different skull

abnormalities and then with Charge... I guess that's four of us. There

are others that are yet to have babies from where I grew up. I guess we'll

see if there are any more.

I really have no idea how it might be involved but would be interested in

any other chemical exposure stories.

Bo , 2.

_____

From: Michele Westmaas

Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 9:27 PM

To: CHARGE

Subject: Re: Re: HELP with HUSBAND

We don't have any ties to the military so anthrax and other chemicals

are not a concern for us. But my husband does work with explosives and

those chemicals get on his skin etc. I don't know of any harm that they

cause expect for nitro headaches. Just my 2 cents. It seems that

CHARGE is truly a random occurence. We've all talked this through so

many times and have never found any one thing that we all have in

common. Perhaps birth defects, autism, etc is not due to just one thing

but rather a multitude of things in just the right sequence or at just

the right time or in just the right combination. I'm getting

comfortable with the idea that we may never know. Although I'd love it

if we did find out more about the gene itself and then how it occurs.

Michele W

mom to aubrie 6 yrs CHaRgE and 12 yrs wife to DJ

Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in

the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation.

For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter)

please contact marion@... or visit

the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation web page

at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

7th International

CHARGE Syndrome Conference, Miami Beach, Florida, July 22-24, 2005.

Information will be available at our website

www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. In Canada, you may

contact CHARGE Syndrome Canada at 1- (families), visit

www.chargesyndrome.ca, or email info@.... Thank you!

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Just to pipe in my ten cents here.

I grew up in the Pacific Northwest out in the wilderness and several of my

friends have had children with very random, strange birth defects. When I

was a kid they sprayed a lot of DDT along the roads as a pesticide and I

have often thought about how that might be involved. I believe there are

three of us, all the same age, from within about a 3 square mile area that

have had weird stuff happen. There is a club foot and two different skull

abnormalities and then with Charge... I guess that's four of us. There

are others that are yet to have babies from where I grew up. I guess we'll

see if there are any more.

I really have no idea how it might be involved but would be interested in

any other chemical exposure stories.

Bo , 2.

_____

From: Michele Westmaas

Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 9:27 PM

To: CHARGE

Subject: Re: Re: HELP with HUSBAND

We don't have any ties to the military so anthrax and other chemicals

are not a concern for us. But my husband does work with explosives and

those chemicals get on his skin etc. I don't know of any harm that they

cause expect for nitro headaches. Just my 2 cents. It seems that

CHARGE is truly a random occurence. We've all talked this through so

many times and have never found any one thing that we all have in

common. Perhaps birth defects, autism, etc is not due to just one thing

but rather a multitude of things in just the right sequence or at just

the right time or in just the right combination. I'm getting

comfortable with the idea that we may never know. Although I'd love it

if we did find out more about the gene itself and then how it occurs.

Michele W

mom to aubrie 6 yrs CHaRgE and 12 yrs wife to DJ

Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in

the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation.

For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter)

please contact marion@... or visit

the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation web page

at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

7th International

CHARGE Syndrome Conference, Miami Beach, Florida, July 22-24, 2005.

Information will be available at our website

www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. In Canada, you may

contact CHARGE Syndrome Canada at 1- (families), visit

www.chargesyndrome.ca, or email info@.... Thank you!

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Thanks . The hardest thing is that there is so much going on. His 2

oldest boys are going back to Georgia to their mom on Friday (I'm flying

them back with the baby). Plus the added stress of being apart from them and

being in the Navy away from any family (especially the boys). I think this is

part of his problem as well. Add to this, we had another son that was unplanned

but such a big blessing. He has informed me NO MORE--we both were scared

through this last pregnancy and another one would be a breaking point for him I

believe.

If I can get a referral for a therapist or something and TriWest (Tricare)

will pay for it, I think I will ask my doctor for the referral. That way I

won't lose it or go insane and I can talk to some one.

Carolyn

Mother of Tanis 2 CHARGE and Denny 3 months and wife of Chris

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Thanks . The hardest thing is that there is so much going on. His 2

oldest boys are going back to Georgia to their mom on Friday (I'm flying

them back with the baby). Plus the added stress of being apart from them and

being in the Navy away from any family (especially the boys). I think this is

part of his problem as well. Add to this, we had another son that was unplanned

but such a big blessing. He has informed me NO MORE--we both were scared

through this last pregnancy and another one would be a breaking point for him I

believe.

If I can get a referral for a therapist or something and TriWest (Tricare)

will pay for it, I think I will ask my doctor for the referral. That way I

won't lose it or go insane and I can talk to some one.

Carolyn

Mother of Tanis 2 CHARGE and Denny 3 months and wife of Chris

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Thanks . The hardest thing is that there is so much going on. His 2

oldest boys are going back to Georgia to their mom on Friday (I'm flying

them back with the baby). Plus the added stress of being apart from them and

being in the Navy away from any family (especially the boys). I think this is

part of his problem as well. Add to this, we had another son that was unplanned

but such a big blessing. He has informed me NO MORE--we both were scared

through this last pregnancy and another one would be a breaking point for him I

believe.

If I can get a referral for a therapist or something and TriWest (Tricare)

will pay for it, I think I will ask my doctor for the referral. That way I

won't lose it or go insane and I can talk to some one.

Carolyn

Mother of Tanis 2 CHARGE and Denny 3 months and wife of Chris

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We did ask the cardiologist if his heart condition could be related to Desert

Storm, but he said no. We are stationed in San Diego at 32nd Street Naval

Station and get all medical care at Balboa Naval Medical Hospital. The hospital

is the reason they sent us here (PCS'd 9 weeks ago)--both for my husband and

our EFM son. It was either here or Bethesda. Since we were in Monterey, CA,

they kept us west coast.

Isn't there a study going on right now about Desert Storm and medical

problems? Do you know where I can get the info on it? The more proof I have

with my

husband, the better it is. He is worried (won't tell me though) that it is

something very bad/serious. He stood with Tanis as Tanis fought so hard to

just live at times. He is all " male " --don't want to offend anyone. He just

doesn't want to need anyone and feels he needs to be strong and tough for his 4

boys. I have told him, if he's not here, he can't be strong for them.

I will make the suggestion and ask the doctor when we see him next. Thank

you so much for the information, Randy.

Carolyn

Mother of Tanis 2 CHARGE and Denny 3 months and wife to CHris

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We did ask the cardiologist if his heart condition could be related to Desert

Storm, but he said no. We are stationed in San Diego at 32nd Street Naval

Station and get all medical care at Balboa Naval Medical Hospital. The hospital

is the reason they sent us here (PCS'd 9 weeks ago)--both for my husband and

our EFM son. It was either here or Bethesda. Since we were in Monterey, CA,

they kept us west coast.

Isn't there a study going on right now about Desert Storm and medical

problems? Do you know where I can get the info on it? The more proof I have

with my

husband, the better it is. He is worried (won't tell me though) that it is

something very bad/serious. He stood with Tanis as Tanis fought so hard to

just live at times. He is all " male " --don't want to offend anyone. He just

doesn't want to need anyone and feels he needs to be strong and tough for his 4

boys. I have told him, if he's not here, he can't be strong for them.

I will make the suggestion and ask the doctor when we see him next. Thank

you so much for the information, Randy.

Carolyn

Mother of Tanis 2 CHARGE and Denny 3 months and wife to CHris

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We did ask the cardiologist if his heart condition could be related to Desert

Storm, but he said no. We are stationed in San Diego at 32nd Street Naval

Station and get all medical care at Balboa Naval Medical Hospital. The hospital

is the reason they sent us here (PCS'd 9 weeks ago)--both for my husband and

our EFM son. It was either here or Bethesda. Since we were in Monterey, CA,

they kept us west coast.

Isn't there a study going on right now about Desert Storm and medical

problems? Do you know where I can get the info on it? The more proof I have

with my

husband, the better it is. He is worried (won't tell me though) that it is

something very bad/serious. He stood with Tanis as Tanis fought so hard to

just live at times. He is all " male " --don't want to offend anyone. He just

doesn't want to need anyone and feels he needs to be strong and tough for his 4

boys. I have told him, if he's not here, he can't be strong for them.

I will make the suggestion and ask the doctor when we see him next. Thank

you so much for the information, Randy.

Carolyn

Mother of Tanis 2 CHARGE and Denny 3 months and wife to CHris

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I've often wondered about Graeme and his spraying of the blueberries as

well...

Weir

Mom to Kennedy 6 yr old with CHARGE, 15, 13 and wife to Graeme.

New Brunswick, Canada

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Re: Re: HELP with HUSBAND

We don't have any ties to the military so anthrax and other chemicals

are not a concern for us. But my husband does work with explosives and

those chemicals get on his skin etc. I don't know of any harm that they

cause expect for nitro headaches. Just my 2 cents. It seems that

CHARGE is truly a random occurence. We've all talked this through so

many times and have never found any one thing that we all have in

common. Perhaps birth defects, autism, etc is not due to just one thing

but rather a multitude of things in just the right sequence or at just

the right time or in just the right combination. I'm getting

comfortable with the idea that we may never know. Although I'd love it

if we did find out more about the gene itself and then how it occurs.

Michele W

mom to aubrie 6 yrs CHaRgE and 12 yrs wife to DJ

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the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation web page

at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

7th International

CHARGE Syndrome Conference, Miami Beach, Florida, July 22-24, 2005.

Information will be available at our website

www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. In Canada, you may

contact CHARGE Syndrome Canada at 1- (families), visit

www.chargesyndrome.ca, or email info@.... Thank you!

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I've often wondered about Graeme and his spraying of the blueberries as

well...

Weir

Mom to Kennedy 6 yr old with CHARGE, 15, 13 and wife to Graeme.

New Brunswick, Canada

Weir homepage: http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/gweir

CHARGE SYNDROME CANADA: http://www.chargesyndrome.ca

Re: Re: HELP with HUSBAND

We don't have any ties to the military so anthrax and other chemicals

are not a concern for us. But my husband does work with explosives and

those chemicals get on his skin etc. I don't know of any harm that they

cause expect for nitro headaches. Just my 2 cents. It seems that

CHARGE is truly a random occurence. We've all talked this through so

many times and have never found any one thing that we all have in

common. Perhaps birth defects, autism, etc is not due to just one thing

but rather a multitude of things in just the right sequence or at just

the right time or in just the right combination. I'm getting

comfortable with the idea that we may never know. Although I'd love it

if we did find out more about the gene itself and then how it occurs.

Michele W

mom to aubrie 6 yrs CHaRgE and 12 yrs wife to DJ

Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in

the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation.

For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter)

please contact marion@... or visit

the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation web page

at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

7th International

CHARGE Syndrome Conference, Miami Beach, Florida, July 22-24, 2005.

Information will be available at our website

www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. In Canada, you may

contact CHARGE Syndrome Canada at 1- (families), visit

www.chargesyndrome.ca, or email info@.... Thank you!

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Randy,

Is the military/government running any chromosomal/gene testing to cross

reference, etc anthrax with anything? Tanis is supposed to have an appointment

with a geneticist. I will take a list of questions to ask him. Probably see if

I can set up an appointment with Chris. as I said, is going to do the

CHARGE research blood draw. Wouldn't it be wonderful if the geneticist is

the doctor who HAS to do the blood draw? Chris's cardiologist has been great

and if asked would probably put the referral into TriWest, especially once I

explained about T's CHARGE.

If you find anything out, please let me know.

He did serve during Desert Storm (army reserves) and reentered the service

(Navy) Feb 2001 and I believe received the Anthrax vaccine then. I know he has

had it though.

Thank you.

Carolyn

Mother of Tanis 2 CHARGE and Denny 3 months and wife to Chris

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Randy,

Is the military/government running any chromosomal/gene testing to cross

reference, etc anthrax with anything? Tanis is supposed to have an appointment

with a geneticist. I will take a list of questions to ask him. Probably see if

I can set up an appointment with Chris. as I said, is going to do the

CHARGE research blood draw. Wouldn't it be wonderful if the geneticist is

the doctor who HAS to do the blood draw? Chris's cardiologist has been great

and if asked would probably put the referral into TriWest, especially once I

explained about T's CHARGE.

If you find anything out, please let me know.

He did serve during Desert Storm (army reserves) and reentered the service

(Navy) Feb 2001 and I believe received the Anthrax vaccine then. I know he has

had it though.

Thank you.

Carolyn

Mother of Tanis 2 CHARGE and Denny 3 months and wife to Chris

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