Guest guest Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Hi all, At our main clinic, I have 3 full-time front desk/intake people who do reception, scheduling, registration, collections, insurance verification, phones, etc. for 16 clinicians (a mixture of full and part-time). Upper management wants to pile on duties for another adjacent clinic. I am fighting this, as I feel they are already overwhelmed with their current duties. Are there any standard metrics out there for a clinician:support staff ratio? I need to have some numbers to support my position. Thanks in advance. Meryl W. Freeman, MS PT Manager, Rex Hospital Outpatient Rehab 2709 Blue Ridge Road, Suite 200 Raleigh, NC 27607 (office) (cell) ----- Confidentiality Notice ----- This e-mail and any attached documents contain confidential information belonging to the sending entity, Rex Healthcare, and is intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity(s) associated with the recipient addresses listed in the message header. The authorized recipient of this information is prohibited from disclosing this information to any other party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken in reliance on the contents of the email and/or attachments is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately to arrange for return or destruction of this information. To report abuse or inappropriate use, please email abuse@....( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Do you have an intake form from your time study that you would be willing to share to collect the front desk time study? Thanks le Bohl, PT Rehab Manager County Hospital burg, KS > ** > > > Hello, > > Try running a time study on the staff and suggest that it is informational. > You may be able to validate or un-validate their overwhelmed feelings with > true data. > Do the time study for one week , each shift. > I did this with my staff in June for one week, then identified performance > improvement indicators and ideas of support etc. > > E. Lynn MS PT > Director of Rehabilitation > Marlton Rehabilitation Hospital > 92 Brick Rd. > Marlton, NJ 08055 > ext 4204 > From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On > Behalf Of Freeman, Meryl > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 1:58 PM > To: 'PTManager ' > Subject: Front desk/support metrics > > > Hi all, > > At our main clinic, I have 3 full-time front desk/intake people who do > reception, scheduling, registration, collections, insurance verification, > phones, etc. for 16 clinicians (a mixture of full and part-time). Upper > management wants to pile on duties for another adjacent clinic. I am > fighting this, as I feel they are already overwhelmed with their current > duties. > > Are there any standard metrics out there for a clinician:support staff > ratio? I need to have some numbers to support my position. > > Thanks in advance. > > Meryl W. Freeman, MS PT > Manager, Rex Hospital Outpatient Rehab > 2709 Blue Ridge Road, Suite 200 > Raleigh, NC 27607 > (office) > (cell) > > ----- Confidentiality Notice ----- > This e-mail and any attached documents contain confidential information > belonging to the sending entity, Rex Healthcare, and is intended only for > the > use of the individual(s) or entity(s) associated with the recipient > addresses > listed in the message header. The authorized recipient of this information > is > prohibited from disclosing this information to any other party. If you are > not > the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, > copying, > distribution or action taken in reliance on the contents of the email > and/or > attachments is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail > transmission in > error, please notify the sender immediately to arrange for return or > destruction of this information. > > To report abuse or inappropriate use, please email abuse@... > <mailto:abuse%40rexhealth.com>.( > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Do you have an intake form from your time study that you would be willing to share to collect the front desk time study? Thanks le Bohl, PT Rehab Manager County Hospital burg, KS > ** > > > Hello, > > Try running a time study on the staff and suggest that it is informational. > You may be able to validate or un-validate their overwhelmed feelings with > true data. > Do the time study for one week , each shift. > I did this with my staff in June for one week, then identified performance > improvement indicators and ideas of support etc. > > E. Lynn MS PT > Director of Rehabilitation > Marlton Rehabilitation Hospital > 92 Brick Rd. > Marlton, NJ 08055 > ext 4204 > From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On > Behalf Of Freeman, Meryl > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 1:58 PM > To: 'PTManager ' > Subject: Front desk/support metrics > > > Hi all, > > At our main clinic, I have 3 full-time front desk/intake people who do > reception, scheduling, registration, collections, insurance verification, > phones, etc. for 16 clinicians (a mixture of full and part-time). Upper > management wants to pile on duties for another adjacent clinic. I am > fighting this, as I feel they are already overwhelmed with their current > duties. > > Are there any standard metrics out there for a clinician:support staff > ratio? I need to have some numbers to support my position. > > Thanks in advance. > > Meryl W. Freeman, MS PT > Manager, Rex Hospital Outpatient Rehab > 2709 Blue Ridge Road, Suite 200 > Raleigh, NC 27607 > (office) > (cell) > > ----- Confidentiality Notice ----- > This e-mail and any attached documents contain confidential information > belonging to the sending entity, Rex Healthcare, and is intended only for > the > use of the individual(s) or entity(s) associated with the recipient > addresses > listed in the message header. The authorized recipient of this information > is > prohibited from disclosing this information to any other party. If you are > not > the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, > copying, > distribution or action taken in reliance on the contents of the email > and/or > attachments is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail > transmission in > error, please notify the sender immediately to arrange for return or > destruction of this information. > > To report abuse or inappropriate use, please email abuse@... > <mailto:abuse%40rexhealth.com>.( > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Hi, Meryl - As a quick rule of thumb in outpatient clinics in which the support staff do all appointments, verify coverages, obtain authorizations, handle all incoming telephone calls, assemble, maintain, and forward discharged charts to a central medical records (HIM), where they enter charges to patient accounts electronically, and where there is distinct seasonality, I like to recommend two support staff for the first 25 patient visits per day. One does front desk, and the other does the " back office " tasks. When the patient load goes over 25, and up to about 50-65 per day, a third person would be scheduled for the office. When the load gets above 60, a fourth person is scheduled. An experienced team, accustomed to working collaboratively should be abe to function without undue stress, and thereby remain consistent. That is just a " quick and dirty " rule of thumb. To support that group, therapists are expected to complete evals by the end of the workday, to chart as they treat the patient, and to turn in all charts right after the patient visit so that billing may be done ona roling basis all day long. (30-50 charts turned in at 11:30 a.m. and 4:30 p.m. would overwhelm the billing entry team member, and is therefore unacceptable.) There are no " national standards " of PT practice metrics. As close as it gets is when some very large organizations set their own preferred standards and mandate adherence in order to achieve their own goals. Hope that's useful. Of course, any practice should be determining what is appropriate for itself, with the help of their independent outside consultant, to keep it realistic. Dick Hillyer, DPT Dr. Hillyer Hillyer Consulting 700 El Dorado Pkwy W. Cape Coral, FL 33914 Mobile www.DickHillyer.com _____ From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of Freeman, Meryl Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 1:58 PM To: 'PTManager ' Subject: Front desk/support metrics Hi all, At our main clinic, I have 3 full-time front desk/intake people who do reception, scheduling, registration, collections, insurance verification, phones, etc. for 16 clinicians (a mixture of full and part-time). Upper management wants to pile on duties for another adjacent clinic. I am fighting this, as I feel they are already overwhelmed with their current duties. Are there any standard metrics out there for a clinician:support staff ratio? I need to have some numbers to support my position. Thanks in advance. Meryl W. Freeman, MS PT Manager, Rex Hospital Outpatient Rehab 2709 Blue Ridge Road, Suite 200 Raleigh, NC 27607 (office) (cell) ----- Confidentiality Notice ----- This e-mail and any attached documents contain confidential information belonging to the sending entity, Rex Healthcare, and is intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity(s) associated with the recipient addresses listed in the message header. The authorized recipient of this information is prohibited from disclosing this information to any other party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken in reliance on the contents of the email and/or attachments is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately to arrange for return or destruction of this information. To report abuse or inappropriate use, please email abuse@... <mailto:abuse%40rexhealth.com> .( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Thanks much, Dick, I appreciate your input! And thanks to all. This group is such a great resource! Meryl W. Freeman, MS PT Manager, Outpatient Rehab Rex Hospital (919)784-4676 (office) (919)621-3787 (cell) From: Dick Hillyer Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:36 PM To: PTManager <PTManager > Subject: RE: Front desk/support metrics Hi, Meryl - As a quick rule of thumb in outpatient clinics in which the support staff do all appointments, verify coverages, obtain authorizations, handle all incoming telephone calls, assemble, maintain, and forward discharged charts to a central medical records (HIM), where they enter charges to patient accounts electronically, and where there is distinct seasonality, I like to recommend two support staff for the first 25 patient visits per day. One does front desk, and the other does the " back office " tasks. When the patient load goes over 25, and up to about 50-65 per day, a third person would be scheduled for the office. When the load gets above 60, a fourth person is scheduled. An experienced team, accustomed to working collaboratively should be abe to function without undue stress, and thereby remain consistent. That is just a " quick and dirty " rule of thumb. To support that group, therapists are expected to complete evals by the end of the workday, to chart as they treat the patient, and to turn in all charts right after the patient visit so that billing may be done ona roling basis all day long. (30-50 charts turned in at 11:30 a.m. and 4:30 p.m. would overwhelm the billing entry team member, and is therefore unacceptable.) There are no " national standards " of PT practice metrics. As close as it gets is when some very large organizations set their own preferred standards and mandate adherence in order to achieve their own goals. Hope that's useful. Of course, any practice should be determining what is appropriate for itself, with the help of their independent outside consultant, to keep it realistic. Dick Hillyer, DPT Dr. Hillyer Hillyer Consulting 700 El Dorado Pkwy W. Cape Coral, FL 33914 Mobile www.DickHillyer.com _____ From: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Freeman, Meryl Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 1:58 PM To: 'PTManager <mailto:%27PTManager%40yahoogroups.com>' Subject: Front desk/support metrics Hi all, At our main clinic, I have 3 full-time front desk/intake people who do reception, scheduling, registration, collections, insurance verification, phones, etc. for 16 clinicians (a mixture of full and part-time). Upper management wants to pile on duties for another adjacent clinic. I am fighting this, as I feel they are already overwhelmed with their current duties. Are there any standard metrics out there for a clinician:support staff ratio? I need to have some numbers to support my position. Thanks in advance. Meryl W. Freeman, MS PT Manager, Rex Hospital Outpatient Rehab 2709 Blue Ridge Road, Suite 200 Raleigh, NC 27607 (office) (cell) ----- Confidentiality Notice ----- This e-mail and any attached documents contain confidential information belonging to the sending entity, Rex Healthcare, and is intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity(s) associated with the recipient addresses listed in the message header. The authorized recipient of this information is prohibited from disclosing this information to any other party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken in reliance on the contents of the email and/or attachments is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately to arrange for return or destruction of this information. To report abuse or inappropriate use, please email abuse@...<mailto:abuse%40rexhealth.com> <mailto:abuse%40rexhealth.com> .( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Thanks much, Dick, I appreciate your input! And thanks to all. This group is such a great resource! Meryl W. Freeman, MS PT Manager, Outpatient Rehab Rex Hospital (919)784-4676 (office) (919)621-3787 (cell) From: Dick Hillyer Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:36 PM To: PTManager <PTManager > Subject: RE: Front desk/support metrics Hi, Meryl - As a quick rule of thumb in outpatient clinics in which the support staff do all appointments, verify coverages, obtain authorizations, handle all incoming telephone calls, assemble, maintain, and forward discharged charts to a central medical records (HIM), where they enter charges to patient accounts electronically, and where there is distinct seasonality, I like to recommend two support staff for the first 25 patient visits per day. One does front desk, and the other does the " back office " tasks. When the patient load goes over 25, and up to about 50-65 per day, a third person would be scheduled for the office. When the load gets above 60, a fourth person is scheduled. An experienced team, accustomed to working collaboratively should be abe to function without undue stress, and thereby remain consistent. That is just a " quick and dirty " rule of thumb. To support that group, therapists are expected to complete evals by the end of the workday, to chart as they treat the patient, and to turn in all charts right after the patient visit so that billing may be done ona roling basis all day long. (30-50 charts turned in at 11:30 a.m. and 4:30 p.m. would overwhelm the billing entry team member, and is therefore unacceptable.) There are no " national standards " of PT practice metrics. As close as it gets is when some very large organizations set their own preferred standards and mandate adherence in order to achieve their own goals. Hope that's useful. Of course, any practice should be determining what is appropriate for itself, with the help of their independent outside consultant, to keep it realistic. Dick Hillyer, DPT Dr. Hillyer Hillyer Consulting 700 El Dorado Pkwy W. Cape Coral, FL 33914 Mobile www.DickHillyer.com _____ From: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Freeman, Meryl Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 1:58 PM To: 'PTManager <mailto:%27PTManager%40yahoogroups.com>' Subject: Front desk/support metrics Hi all, At our main clinic, I have 3 full-time front desk/intake people who do reception, scheduling, registration, collections, insurance verification, phones, etc. for 16 clinicians (a mixture of full and part-time). Upper management wants to pile on duties for another adjacent clinic. I am fighting this, as I feel they are already overwhelmed with their current duties. Are there any standard metrics out there for a clinician:support staff ratio? I need to have some numbers to support my position. Thanks in advance. Meryl W. Freeman, MS PT Manager, Rex Hospital Outpatient Rehab 2709 Blue Ridge Road, Suite 200 Raleigh, NC 27607 (office) (cell) ----- Confidentiality Notice ----- This e-mail and any attached documents contain confidential information belonging to the sending entity, Rex Healthcare, and is intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity(s) associated with the recipient addresses listed in the message header. The authorized recipient of this information is prohibited from disclosing this information to any other party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken in reliance on the contents of the email and/or attachments is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately to arrange for return or destruction of this information. To report abuse or inappropriate use, please email abuse@...<mailto:abuse%40rexhealth.com> <mailto:abuse%40rexhealth.com> .( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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